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(Inverse)   Really cool possibilities for how Strange New Worlds could unify Trek history on the left. Horrified predictions for how anything associated with Discovery is more likely to violently butcher it on the right   (inverse.com) divider line
    More: Cool, 23rd century, Strange New Worlds, Star Trek, James T. Kirk, Star Trek: The Original Series, Christopher Pike, Spock, United Federation of Planets  
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6 days ago  
We outrank him, which is really fun, because when does anybody ever outrank Spock?

Oh my God just run for Arizona Senator and be done with it already...
 
6 days ago  
Since Discovery has been excellent so far I'm looking forward to SNW
 
6 days ago  
Joke all you want, this series only happens because fans of Disco loved Anson Mount's Pike.
 
6 days ago  

sno man: Joke all you want, this series only happens because fans of Disco loved Anson Mount's Pike.


Yeah, he was fantastic as Pike. I'm amped for this show.
 
6 days ago  

anuran: Since Discovery has been excellent so far I'm looking forward to SNW


Sorry to hear about your brain damage :( I hope things improve soon!
 
6 days ago  
As long as it has midichlorians, insane clones of the Captian, and 20 scenes of the main character crying it will be the pinnacle of Sci-Fi entertainment programming.
 
6 days ago  

NuclearPenguins: anuran: Since Discovery has been excellent so far I'm looking forward to SNW

Sorry to hear about your brain damage :( I hope things improve soon!


I've heard so much about how Discovery sucks and Picard sucks.

Then I watched the first 6 episodes of Picard and I absolutely loved it. So much, I'm ready to give Discovery a try.  Lower Decks was pretty good.  I was expecting the Orville to be more like the lower decks when I first watched it. So lower decks doing in in the Star Trek world was great.

I haven't even heard about this new TV show. I was about to cancel my paramount plus subscription when I finish Picard, but Trek may have hooked me again. After such a long time away as a fan.
 
6 days ago  

JolobinSmokin: NuclearPenguins: anuran: Since Discovery has been excellent so far I'm looking forward to SNW

Sorry to hear about your brain damage :( I hope things improve soon!

I've heard so much about how Discovery sucks and Picard sucks.

Then I watched the first 6 episodes of Picard and I absolutely loved it. So much, I'm ready to give Discovery a try.  Lower Decks was pretty good.  I was expecting the Orville to be more like the lower decks when I first watched it. So lower decks doing in in the Star Trek world was great.

I haven't even heard about this new TV show. I was about to cancel my paramount plus subscription when I finish Picard, but Trek may have hooked me again. After such a long time away as a fan.


Truth be told, I am glad people are enjoying it and I hope it gets more people into Trek in general. As for myself, it just wasn't for me. It was decent-ish sci-fi, but it just doesn't feel like Star Trek any longer.
 
6 days ago  

sno man: Joke all you want, this series only happens because fans of Disco loved Anson Mount's Pike.


He was good...but Discovery rapidly became hot trash
 
6 days ago  

NuclearPenguins: JolobinSmokin: NuclearPenguins: anuran: Since Discovery has been excellent so far I'm looking forward to SNW

Sorry to hear about your brain damage :( I hope things improve soon!

I've heard so much about how Discovery sucks and Picard sucks.

Then I watched the first 6 episodes of Picard and I absolutely loved it. So much, I'm ready to give Discovery a try.  Lower Decks was pretty good.  I was expecting the Orville to be more like the lower decks when I first watched it. So lower decks doing in in the Star Trek world was great.

I haven't even heard about this new TV show. I was about to cancel my paramount plus subscription when I finish Picard, but Trek may have hooked me again. After such a long time away as a fan.

Truth be told, I am glad people are enjoying it and I hope it gets more people into Trek in general. As for myself, it just wasn't for me. It was decent-ish sci-fi, but it just doesn't feel like Star Trek any longer.


I watched TOS on reruns in the late 70's early 80's, all the movies, next generation and their movies, deep space 9, voyager, Chris Pine Trek, and then fell off. Never watched enterprise.

Picard has a Logan feel to me.  Of course both have SPS in them as old men not who they once were, but gritty in a non-zack Snyder way.  Getting to see a side of Trek that wasn't portrayed.  Of course hunger would still be a problem, poverty and other things across the galaxy and we've never really seen it.    I've enjoyed it so much.
 
6 days ago  

sno man: Joke all you want, this series only happens because fans of Disco loved Anson Mount's Pike.


Well, and Romijn's Number One.  She just nailed that role.
 
6 days ago  
I'm judging the train wreck of the ST franchise with just one clip, the one where a young officer on the bridge shouts to her fellow academy graduates, "This is science, people!!!" The people driving the story don't even understand what that universe is all about.

I can quote most of Kirk's speeches word for word. They map that universe with four waypoints:

1) space is freaky dangerous, so don't get comfortable.
2) only the best of the best get to explore it for the Federation.
3) us crazy bastards have to explore it no matter what the risk
4) screw the prime directive
 
6 days ago  
Hey, subby!  Oh, and anyone else who thinks Discovery or Picard are terrible:  from the bottom of my heart, go fark yourselves.

Look, I'm not trying to contend that Discovery, Picard, or Lower Decks are flawless examples of Star Trek.  They're far from flawless.  Discovery's writers have a problem with executing their season-long arcs; they start off strong, then they deviate for a side-story or two, get distracted, and then have to scramble to end the arc and it ends up feeling rushed and sloppy.  Every single season has been like this.  Picard was the same way: excellent first eight episodes, and then it all falls completely apart in the last two.  Lower Decks, for all the praise it gets, was just "how many past Trek references can we cram into an episode" with a paper-thin story to contain them until the last two or three episodes, when the writers realized they could actually do interesting things with their characters instead of just use them as refrerence/quip dispensers.

But as flawed as they are, they're still worthy of being part of the legitimate, canon Star Trek franchise.  I'm sick to grim death of these halfwits I see on social media gatekeeping the fandom and - this is especially stupid - calling the new shows "woke".  (And yes, I know no one hasn't actually said that on this thread yet, but it's coming, because people are that stupid, so spare me the dismissive "strawman" bullshiat.)

First of all: imagine being someone who still uses the term "woke" in 2021.  Just...WOW.

Second:  If you actually think, unironically, that Star Trek has "gone woke", you're a moron.  Don't bother denying or arguing it; you'll only embarrass yourselves.  Star Trek has always, ALWAYS been what most conservative folk would now call "woke".  From its diverse casts to its progressive themes and optimistic ideas, it's never been anything else.  The only difference is that it's changed to match the times its various iterations have existed in.  I guarantee you that if The Original Series came out today, intact, just as it is now except modified for modern FX and set design, these imbecilic "Fandom Menace" types would call it "woke".  Hell, even TNG, DS9 and Voyager would get that label.  And you can't even use the comeback of "well, it's really in our face now!!!"  No, it's not; certainly not anymore than it was in the 60's for anyone intelligent enough to read between the scifi lines.  So, anyone using the "woke" complaint now is a fool that shouldn't be taken seriously.
 
6 days ago  
pleasedontsuckpleasedontsuckpleasedont​suckpleasedontsuck


/who am I kidding?
 
6 days ago  

sno man: Joke all you want, this series only happens because fans of Disco loved Anson Mount's Pike.


Yep. The stories with Pike and Number One were like crossover episodes from a better TV show.
 
6 days ago  

bingethinker: sno man: Joke all you want, this series only happens because fans of Disco loved Anson Mount's Pike.

Yep. The stories with Pike and Number One were like crossover episodes from a better TV show.


Exactly. Had they not brought in Pike and his enterprise crew I would have given up on disco. Now that they've been shot into the 31st century the show has much improved.

Now we have all that painful learning out of the way we're going into Strange New Worlds with a rock solid cast.
 
6 days ago  

AgtSmithReloaded: Second: If you actually think, unironically, that Star Trek has "gone woke", you're a moron. Don't bother denying or arguing it; you'll only embarrass yourselves. Star Trek has always, ALWAYS been what most conservative folk would now call "woke". From its diverse casts to its progressive themes and optimistic ideas, it's never been anything else. The only difference is that it's changed to match the times its various iterations have existed in. I guarantee you that if The Original Series came out today, intact, just as it is now except modified for modern FX and set design, these imbecilic "Fandom Menace" types would call it "woke". Hell, even TNG, DS9 and Voyager would get that label. And you can't even use the comeback of "well, it's really in our face now!!!" No, it's not; certainly not anymore than it was in the 60's for anyone intelligent enough to read between the scifi lines. So, anyone using the "woke" complaint now is a fool that shouldn't be taken seriously.


Ah, but SNW will have a *white* captain and a *white woman* as Number One.  SO!  Tis the conservatrek that formerly progressive fans think they want! in episodic! form!

I figure they are not ready for the tricks that SNW will pull.
...really resisting saying "Star Trek: Snow" in some serious ways as a several layer pun.
 
6 days ago  
Anyone who even imagines all trek stories even  had any intent to be unified in the first place is the dumbs.
ToS is one offs, treated by the witters and the show runners as One Offs that do not give any shiats about what happened before for what can or can not happen next.
And the vast majority of TNG episodes were also treated this way.
there was no explicitly continuity of any Trek until the movies began, and while that started off as a one off of its own, the rest flowed in order from one to the next as a single continuity.

There is no actual real bringing together of a lot of stuff that was never really together in the first place. You are just making your own up as you go, that it its own and changes nothign about anything else that came before it having nothig to do with it really.

these kinds of story concepts are the realms of fan fiction, so leave it to the hobbyists and armatures already, and expect more of actually title claiming paid professional.
 
6 days ago  
Picard and Discovery have both considerably dampened my enjoyment of Trek, but I'm dumb enough to hope that this recaptures some of it. Not being chained to a dumb, season-long arc while returning to its anthology roots (and potentially using multiple writers so that if one sucks it's an episode not a season) fuels some amount of positive expectation.
 
6 days ago  
I'm an old school trekkie from way back. I didn't like Picard, think Discovery is just okay, but I really like Lower Decks a lot. Each episode is like an hour's worth of story in a half hour, and it just feels more like the Star Trek I love.

I'm looking forward to Strange New Worlds and a return to a more episodic format. I'd also really enjoy a more serious animated Trek show.
 
6 days ago  
Oh yay, yet another prequel.  What is it with Star Trek writers being seemingly terrified to go where no one has gone before?
 
6 days ago  

mcnguyen: Oh yay, yet another prequel.  What is it with Star Trek writers being seemingly terrified to go where no one has gone before?


It's not just trek, it's all of it everywhere.
The fan fiction authors have taken over, and why not , that's way easier (so cheaper) than trying to be actually creative on your own.
Don't try to launch your own rocket, ride somoen else's.
 
6 days ago  
So if I understand semi-correctly, SNW will have a typical 7 year run culminating in Pike retiring and a new untried CO coming aboard. And Star Trek will have come full circle and returned to its beginning. And then what?
 
6 days ago  

KRSESQ: So if I understand semi-correctly, SNW will have a typical 7 year run culminating in Pike retiring and a new untried CO coming aboard. And Star Trek will have come full circle and returned to its beginning. And then what?


Season 2 of Picard is shooting now I think, and Lower Decks season 2 is in the works, and Disco season 4 is coming eventually. Oh yea, and the Georgiou/Section 31 spin off they'll do out of SNW's first season. Then they'll have to come up with something new.
 
6 days ago  

KRSESQ: So if I understand semi-correctly, SNW will have a typical 7 year run culminating in Pike retiring and a new untried CO coming aboard. And Star Trek will have come full circle and returned to its beginning. And then what?


Number One is revealed to be a shapeshifting person who then goes on to rule the... I have said to much.
 
6 days ago  
*too
 
5 days ago  

JolobinSmokin: NuclearPenguins: anuran: Since Discovery has been excellent so far I'm looking forward to SNW

Sorry to hear about your brain damage :( I hope things improve soon!

I've heard so much about how Discovery sucks and Picard sucks.

Then I watched the first 6 episodes of Picard and I absolutely loved it. So much, I'm ready to give Discovery a try.  Lower Decks was pretty good.  I was expecting the Orville to be more like the lower decks when I first watched it. So lower decks doing in in the Star Trek world was great.

I haven't even heard about this new TV show. I was about to cancel my paramount plus subscription when I finish Picard, but Trek may have hooked me again. After such a long time away as a fan.


You swore up-and-down you would not use the CBS app to watch star trek. welcome to the fold my friend.
 
5 days ago  

AgtSmithReloaded: They're far from flawless. Discovery's writers have a problem with executing their season-long arcs; they start off strong, then they deviate for a side-story or two, get distracted, and then have to scramble to end the arc and it ends up feeling rushed and sloppy. Every single season has been like this. Picard was the same way:


is why I thinks Discovery or Picard are terrible so no fark you
 
5 days ago  

KRSESQ: So if I understand semi-correctly, SNW will have a typical 7 year run culminating in Pike retiring and a new untried CO coming aboard. And Star Trek will have come full circle and returned to its beginning. And then what?


Another prequel, another retcon that will insist on sullying what came before to justify its existence.
 
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