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(Slate)   "Should we let our neighbors know that we're responsible gun owners despite the fact no such people exist?"   (slate.com) divider line
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354 clicks; posted to Discussion » on 09 Jun 2021 at 6:18 AM (6 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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6 days ago  
Come on now subby. It's entirely reasonable to own a gun in light of the scads of right-wing nuts hoarding enough arms & ammo to support a small war. Ceding all the guns to one side of the political argument is a recipe for suicide. But having guns doesn't have to mean you're a gun humper. For the reasonable person, it's just like owning a screwdriver or a hammer. You don't have to fly a Craftsman flag off the back of your pickup.
 
6 days ago  
Then I'd know not to let my kids play with theirs since that would be, by far, the highest risk for my child's death.
 
6 days ago  
Great, let people know where to go to steal guns.
 
6 days ago  
No.

Anyone familiar with any kind of security tells you to not advertise what's in your house. Your neighbors don't need to know. The government doesn't get to know either. The only one I'd tell is your insurance agent if you need to bump up your coverage.

Also secure your shiat. Gun safes are relatively cheap and usually less money than an insurance claim and certainly cheaper than a medical bill.

I sold a ton of guns in my life. We are an armed nation. While collectors do own a lot you can never judge by profession and demographics who is a gun owner and who isn't.
 
6 days ago  
People hunt to "supplement" their diets? What aren't they getting from normal food that only comes from eating game?
 
6 days ago  
No.
Unless they tell you first, then you might go to the range together.
If you trust them that is...I'm picky about who I take to the range.
 
6 days ago  

Kat09tails: No.

Anyone familiar with any kind of security tells you to not advertise what's in your house. Your neighbors don't need to know. The government doesn't get to know either. The only one I'd tell is your insurance agent if you need to bump up your coverage.


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Word gets around. Sooner or later an enterprising criminal (often a bored teenager) will make a run on your stash.
 
6 days ago  
You know I did tell my neighbor that I own guns, it just came up in conversation. But my extensive collection consists of a broken gun I've been meaning to fix and a cowboy 6 shooter, so it's not like I'm a suburban warlord or something.
 
6 days ago  
They're always responsible gun owners, stocking up on Armalite Rifles until the day they aren't responsible gun owners and not true Scotsmen.

And then they shoot a dozen or more people before being taken down.
 
6 days ago  

kozlo: You know I did tell my neighbor that I own guns, it just came up in conversation. But my extensive collection consists of a broken gun I've been meaning to fix and a cowboy 6 shooter, so it's not like I'm a suburban warlord or something.


You have four or more bullets?

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6 days ago  
The way to look like a responsible gun owner is to not insist on bringing up the subject of your guns apropos of nothing.
 
6 days ago  
About a month after we moved in I was chatting with a neighbor who told me not to be concerned if I ever saw him leave the house with a bunch of guns - he's just going to the nearby range and they remain locked in his safe when he's not using them.

That was 24 years ago.  Never had a reason to work about it
 
6 days ago  
Oh look it's this thread again, but this time its Slatesplained.
 
6 days ago  

enry: About a month after we moved in I was chatting with a neighbor who told me not to be concerned if I ever saw him leave the house with a bunch of guns - he's just going to the nearby range and they remain locked in his safe when he's not using them.

That was 24 years ago.  Never had a reason to work about it


That would worry me. Why would you see your neighbor leave the house with a bunch of guns?

I own firearms. They are in a locked safe when not being used at the range or being cleaned. And when in transit to the range, they are still locked up, in cases.

Seriously, I can't imagine saying that to my neighbors. If you see me holding a firearm, you're either at the range with me, or you should be concerned.
 
6 days ago  

question_dj: People hunt to "supplement" their diets? What aren't they getting from normal food that only comes from eating game?


Hiking.
 
6 days ago  

kozlo: You know I did tell my neighbor that I own guns, it just came up in conversation. But my extensive collection consists of a broken gun I've been meaning to fix and a cowboy 6 shooter, so it's not like I'm a suburban warlord or something.


A couple days after I moved into my house, my neighbor - creepy dude - came over and introduced himself while I was shoveling snow.  His opening line was "Why isn't your husband doing that?"  I told him I was a widow. The next question was "Do you have any guns in the house?" . I don't like to lie, so I answered him "I just moved here from Texas so what do you think"
 
6 days ago  

question_dj: People hunt to "supplement" their diets? What aren't they getting from normal food that only comes from eating game?


The argument I've heard for this is that they're poor and wouldn't otherwise be able to afford much meat.

I've known a couple people in that boat; they're out there hunting with grandpa's rifle and eating everything they kill, not spending thousands on ARs, and they're pinching pennies in every other aspect of their lives, too.

If you're in that situation, fishing always struck me as cheaper/easier, but I guess if you're trying to be responsible and observing bag limits, it helps to get a few different kinds of animals in the deep freezer.
 
6 days ago  

dv-ous: question_dj: People hunt to "supplement" their diets? What aren't they getting from normal food that only comes from eating game?

The argument I've heard for this is that they're poor and wouldn't otherwise be able to afford much meat.

I've known a couple people in that boat; they're out there hunting with grandpa's rifle and eating everything they kill, not spending thousands on ARs, and they're pinching pennies in every other aspect of their lives, too.

If you're in that situation, fishing always struck me as cheaper/easier, but I guess if you're trying to be responsible and observing bag limits, it helps to get a few different kinds of animals in the deep freezer.


a couple fish are a good for a family dinner.  a couple deer or an elk/moose are good for lots of dinners.

I've been hunting and fishing since i was old enough to and we weren't/aren't poor.  Deer in MI are as common as rats in NY and when i shoot one it is over in seconds.  when winter cold or starvation kills a deer it takes days or weeks. I spend time throughout the year at the range making sure me and my rifle are working correctly and we do all the butchering ourselves; few people eat more local or sustainably and the mini-Scarfs understand where meat comes from.

There are responsible gun owners. You'd be shocked at the number of hunters that loathe the NRA and support gun control legislation.  that said there are way to many "guns and ammo" and too few "field and stream" gun owners.
 
6 days ago  

Kat09tails: No.

Anyone familiar with any kind of security tells you to not advertise what's in your house. Your neighbors don't need to know. The government doesn't get to know either. The only one I'd tell is your insurance agent if you need to bump up your coverage.

Also secure your shiat. Gun safes are relatively cheap and usually less money than an insurance claim and certainly cheaper than a medical bill.

I sold a ton of guns in my life. We are an armed nation. While collectors do own a lot you can never judge by profession and demographics who is a gun owner and who isn't.


Normally you are right, but the issue here is that the neighbor's kids would be playing inside his house, which changes the equation significantly.
 
6 days ago  
4th of July is not to far away go in the backyard and celebrate like Yosemite Sam. That will tell everyone within miles your a responsible adult.
 
6 days ago  

Geotpf: Kat09tails: No.

Anyone familiar with any kind of security tells you to not advertise what's in your house. Your neighbors don't need to know. The government doesn't get to know either. The only one I'd tell is your insurance agent if you need to bump up your coverage.

Also secure your shiat. Gun safes are relatively cheap and usually less money than an insurance claim and certainly cheaper than a medical bill.

I sold a ton of guns in my life. We are an armed nation. While collectors do own a lot you can never judge by profession and demographics who is a gun owner and who isn't.

Normally you are right, but the issue here is that the neighbor's kids would be playing inside his house, which changes the equation significantly.


if the guns are locked and ammo stored correctly (away from the guns) it doesn't matter. When the mini-scarfs became old enough that they could get at my guns i removed the bolts from my rifles and disassembled my shotgun.  then i stored the bolts and shotgun locking nut in a place i knew they wouldn't think to look. as far as mine and the neighborhood kids were concerned my cordless drill was more likely to cause an injury than my firearms.
 
6 days ago  
I grew up as the letter-writer did, in a house full of guns in a community where hunting supplemented income, and one of my standard arguments on the subject is the utter meaninglessness of the phrase "responsible gun owner." Every gun owner is a responsible gun owner until they're not.

To use the well-worn driving analogy, you can get away with being a bad driver for a long time before something bad happens, and the whole time you're getting away with being a bad driver, you can insist that you're a good driver. The lack of immediate negative results has no bearing on the actual quality of the skill. And responsible gun owners don't have to go around insisting that they're responsible gun owners. Actual responsible gun owners are mindful of the potential for mistakes.
 
6 days ago  

QuesoDelicioso: You don't have to fly a Craftsman flag off the back of your pickup.


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6 days ago  

WelldeadLink: QuesoDelicioso: You don't have to fly a Craftsman flag off the back of your pickup.

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Heh. Well, okay. But you don't -have- to.
 
6 days ago  

QuesoDelicioso: WelldeadLink: QuesoDelicioso: You don't have to fly a Craftsman flag off the back of your pickup.

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Heh. Well, okay. But you don't -have- to.


Yeah... but fark it, maybe we should? Show those Snap-On assholes their kind aren't wanted around here.
 
5 days ago  

question_dj: People hunt to "supplement" their diets? What aren't they getting from normal food that only comes from eating game?


Depending on where you butcher your food, about 40 cents to a dollar a pound. So money.

As much as I enjoy playing video games, painting, and card games, I can't eat my hobby, if you wanted to argue all the other sunk costs that can, but don't have to, go into hunting/Fishing.
 
5 days ago  
No. No one should ever know you're carrying a gun until it becomes necessary to use it.
 
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