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(Fox 8 Cleveland)   After finding trouble getting enough applicants to operate, Cedar Point amusement park raises the starting pay and discovers to their astonishment that not only did they get plenty of people applying, but they were much higher quality applicants   (fox8.com) divider line
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2021-06-08 10:16:29 PM  
So instead of hungover 19 year olds running the rides we'll get hungover grad students in their 30s running the rides.
 
2021-06-08 10:48:15 PM  
What an amazing discovery.
 
2021-06-08 10:48:50 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: So instead of hungover 19 year olds running the rides we'll get hungover grad students in their 30s running the rides.


Their hands will smell of watercress and arugula.
 
2021-06-08 10:50:24 PM  
It's gotten rather expensive to suck cheap cigars, run bumper cars and candy up your nose?
 
2021-06-09 12:30:27 AM  
This one trick...
 
2021-06-09 1:26:37 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: So instead of hungover 19 year olds running the rides we'll get hungover grad students in their 30s running the rides.


This sounds like an excellent porn plot.
 
2021-06-09 2:18:13 AM  
"This is the most challenging labor market I've seen in 20 years. This is not a typical economic slowdown, this is a pandemic caused shutdown and now reopening the economy with an economic impact. That makes it uniquely different," said Cedar Fair CEO Richard Zimmerman.

It's simple free market principles. Wages have been suppressed for so long, and the dam has finally broken because of the pandemic. Seems that it would be common sense that better wages attract better applicants. These vampire capitalists have screwed up the economy for so long that they don't remember basic economic principles anymore.
 
hej
2021-06-09 7:23:56 AM  
I wonder if they're going to get rid of all the low quality people they already have.
 
2021-06-09 7:28:08 AM  
How very peculiar.
 
2021-06-09 7:28:49 AM  

Brosephus: "This is the most challenging labor market I've seen in 20 years. This is not a typical economic slowdown, this is a pandemic caused shutdown and now reopening the economy with an economic impact. That makes it uniquely different," said Cedar Fair CEO Richard Zimmerman.

It's simple free market principles. Wages have been suppressed for so long, and the dam has finally broken because of the pandemic. Seems that it would be common sense that better wages attract better applicants. These vampire capitalists have screwed up the economy for so long that they don't remember basic economic principles anymore.


It's weird how people believe that there were people who didn't know that.
 
2021-06-09 7:29:04 AM  
Perhaps the rest of the service sector should look into this.
 
2021-06-09 7:31:40 AM  

hej: I wonder if they're going to get rid of all the low quality people they already have.


It's a theme park, so the hiring would be very seasonal even if they weren't reopening after restrictions were lifted.
 
2021-06-09 7:48:31 AM  
Amazing. Maybe they should share this amazing discovery with the rest of American industry.
 
2021-06-09 7:57:17 AM  

Brosephus: "This is the most challenging labor market I've seen in 20 years. This is not a typical economic slowdown, this is a pandemic caused shutdown and now reopening the economy with an economic impact. That makes it uniquely different," said Cedar Fair CEO Richard Zimmerman.

It's simple free market principles. Wages have been suppressed for so long, and the dam has finally broken because of the pandemic. Seems that it would be common sense that better wages attract better applicants. These vampire capitalists have screwed up the economy for so long that they don't remember basic economic principles anymore.


With as many people that have MBAs in this country, you wouldn't expect this reality to be such a shock and revelation to them. Unless they have been taught in school to exploit the bottom end of the labor market, as hard as they can, and not to expect any pushback.
 
2021-06-09 8:11:18 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Perhaps the rest of the service sector should look into this.


*insert greenshirtlaughingguy.gif* my company lost 60% of their warehouse staff in a few locations because another company opened a warehouse that paid 40% more. What was our company's response? More job postings in more unique places. FOUR farkING MONTHS LATER and the problem still isn't fixed, there's no end solution in sight, and we're starting to see the same things happen in the stores because "your employees union contract is so good their benefits are worth $2/hr." That still doesn't change the fact you're basically starting people out at $12, while the Walmart next store is starting at 14-15, asking them to do less stressful work.
 
2021-06-09 8:15:06 AM  

fragMasterFlash: It's gotten rather expensive to suck cheap cigars, run bumper cars and candy up your nose?


And not piss for a week.

/And a half!!!
 
2021-06-09 8:20:58 AM  

jayphat: Pants full of macaroni!!: Perhaps the rest of the service sector should look into this.

*insert greenshirtlaughingguy.gif* my company lost 60% of their warehouse staff in a few locations because another company opened a warehouse that paid 40% more. What was our company's response? More job postings in more unique places. FOUR farkING MONTHS LATER and the problem still isn't fixed, there's no end solution in sight, and we're starting to see the same things happen in the stores because "your employees union contract is so good their benefits are worth $2/hr." That still doesn't change the fact you're basically starting people out at $12, while the Walmart next store is starting at 14-15, asking them to do less stressful work.


Invisible hand of the free market for me, but not for thee.

/Employers--in the field I'm in--have been complaining about the difficulty in finding good candidates for years
//"What are you paying?" is the question they choke on
///In two or three years they could train - and license - a guy in-house.  They won't.
 
2021-06-09 8:35:37 AM  

SecondaryControl: jayphat: Pants full of macaroni!!: Perhaps the rest of the service sector should look into this.

*insert greenshirtlaughingguy.gif* my company lost 60% of their warehouse staff in a few locations because another company opened a warehouse that paid 40% more. What was our company's response? More job postings in more unique places. FOUR farkING MONTHS LATER and the problem still isn't fixed, there's no end solution in sight, and we're starting to see the same things happen in the stores because "your employees union contract is so good their benefits are worth $2/hr." That still doesn't change the fact you're basically starting people out at $12, while the Walmart next store is starting at 14-15, asking them to do less stressful work.

Invisible hand of the free market for me, but not for thee.

/Employers--in the field I'm in--have been complaining about the difficulty in finding good candidates for years
//"What are you paying?" is the question they choke on
///In two or three years they could train - and license - a guy in-house.  They won't.


If it's anything like auto repair, management won't spring for training because then other shops will hire away their newly trained techs for more money.

The whole "raises for completing training" concept seems alien to them.
 
2021-06-09 9:03:29 AM  
I still remember about 8 years ago we were having problems keeping people and in a meeting I pointed out two things better pay and not screwing them over on the referral bonus. They looked at me like I had just landed on the plant from another world and I was given all kinds of reason why they can't pay people more and it all sounded like BS. Then they asked what I though was wrong with the referral bonus, I pointed out how if we referred a person and they were offered fulltime the person who referred them got $500 but if they got a person to work their part time it was a $10 starbucks card. So the scheme work would pull is hire someones referral for a week at part time, switch them to full time after the week and give the person the $10 starbucks card after 3 months. Saw a lot of pissed off people on the receiving end of that shiatty deal.
 
2021-06-09 9:29:08 AM  
Cedar Point? I do, let's see if other employers can.
 
2021-06-09 9:39:30 AM  
My brother was trying to restaff his bar after the state began to reopen things, and like everyone one else couldn't begin to find enough people at prevailing wages. So he said fark it, and introduced a $15 minimum wage for everyone in the bar, $25 for assistant managers, and the two managers went to $30.

He now has a waiting list of experienced bar people wanting to work for him, and May was his best month since 2008. His online reviews are all about the friendly staff, and welcoming atmosphere. And tipping is some of the best he has seen in years.

And he says the best part is there is so much less tension between him and his employees. He told me they want to be there, and they want to do a great job not only because of the better wages and tips, but because they all feel like a team.

He has caught a lot of flack from the other business in the area, but he told them to fark off, and try spreading the wealth instead of screwing over your employees. He told me last night spreading the wealth may have been the best business decision he's ever made.
 
2021-06-09 9:44:45 AM  
Whatsamatta Cedar Fair?  Can't get all those exchange students @ slave wages anymore?

Womp Womp.

Fark Cedar Fair and Cedar Point
 
2021-06-09 9:51:08 AM  

jack_o_the_hills: Whatsamatta Cedar Fair?  Can't get all those exchange students @ slave wages anymore?

Womp Womp.

Fark Cedar Fair and Cedar Point


Action Park For Ever.
 
2021-06-09 9:57:50 AM  

duke3522: My brother was trying to restaff his bar after the state began to reopen things, and like everyone one else couldn't begin to find enough people at prevailing wages. So he said fark it, and introduced a $15 minimum wage for everyone in the bar, $25 for assistant managers, and the two managers went to $30.

He now has a waiting list of experienced bar people wanting to work for him, and May was his best month since 2008. His online reviews are all about the friendly staff, and welcoming atmosphere. And tipping is some of the best he has seen in years.

And he says the best part is there is so much less tension between him and his employees. He told me they want to be there, and they want to do a great job not only because of the better wages and tips, but because they all feel like a team.

He has caught a lot of flack from the other business in the area, but he told them to fark off, and try spreading the wealth instead of screwing over your employees. He told me last night spreading the wealth may have been the best business decision he's ever made.


My employer ust offered me a $40,000 raise the other day and It was all I could do not to flip them off over the phone?  Why?  Because the raise offer came 1 hr after I told them I was resigning and had been offered a better position elsewhere.   Now I had worked for these farkers for nigh on ten years, and two year ago had put my foot down after several years of no raises and negotiated a $20K bump on the grounds that they come through or I was done.   They acceded but, gave me a long song and dance about how that was the BEST they could do, (My work is billed under a contract to the client)  the Contract only had so much overhead,,,etc etc.  But suddenly I'm walking away and they can find ANOTHER 40G?   What it really told me was how much of a sucker I had been all along.  Had they come across with this number, r something near it a Long time ago, I would have felt valued, and respected and never gone looking for another job, but because they lowballed, I found another gig.  I now know from discussions with the client, my employer is  also going to lose that contract since they can't offer me, specifically anymore (which apparently was a material term unbeknownst to me)  which was worth a LOT more than they were paying me.

Moral of the story is, it's not just about money, it's about respect, and what you pay someone shows them how you value them.   Give respect  and you get respect and hard work
 
2021-06-09 10:10:15 AM  
I worked for one of their parks briefly between jobs during the recession. Pretty quickly bailed for a better seasonal gig, which is a perfect example of how treating their employees better would have helped them.

They could also try not treating their employees like criminals. Maybe let us wear normal pants, instead of these weird ones they gave us with one tiny pocket, even though my department didn't deal with cash or anything of value small enough to be stolen. Maybe even let them *gasp* have reasonably-kempt facial hair instead of this weird "nothing other than a perfectly trimmed 1970s porn stash" policy that I'm pretty sure they copied from Disney (Walt Disney mustache exception and all) without a thought.

/They seriously wouldn't even give me the pre-season new employee park tour until I shaved my goatee.
 
2021-06-09 10:27:51 AM  
Everybody in management knows that more money can get you better workers.  Upper management's goal, for the last decades, has been to find the precise amount of money to get exactly as good of employees as they need to do the job they're hired for and middle managers are willing to err on the side of being to cheap because they're middle managers... half of them cut their own hair, the other half are married.

/low level manager.
//Would kill to have my workers paid substantially better
///... So I could replace the bad ones with better ones
////My boss doesn't care about making my job easier
 
2021-06-09 10:42:46 AM  
What does a "high-quality" amusement park worker look like? They don't mumble when they tell you to "keep your hands and feet inside the ride at all times"? They clean up vomit 25% faster?
 
2021-06-09 10:58:56 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: What does a "high-quality" amusement park worker look like? They don't mumble when they tell you to "keep your hands and feet inside the ride at all times"? They clean up vomit 25% faster?


They are intelligent enough to dress themselves.
 
2021-06-09 11:10:05 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: What does a "high-quality" amusement park worker look like? They don't mumble when they tell you to "keep your hands and feet inside the ride at all times"? They clean up vomit 25% faster?


They're not tired AF from working 2 other jobs just to survive. So when some little brat goes missing or gets hurt because their parents were too busy updating their Insta, the staff actually can do something.
 
2021-06-09 11:21:17 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: What does a "high-quality" amusement park worker look like? They don't mumble when they tell you to "keep your hands and feet inside the ride at all times"? They clean up vomit 25% faster?


I worked at an amusement park for two summers when I was 15/16... The minimum wage was lower for people with underage work permits in my state at that time and they were one of the few places that hired people who weren't yet 16.

I spent most of the time either smoking pot out back of the food stand or playing snake on my Nokia cellphone in the fridge... one of my coworkers and I even crafted a couch out of French fry boxes in the walk in fridge.  Honestly, I could do an hours worth of "work" in 15 minutes at that job.

We also stole squeegees from every other food stand/restaurant in the park because we were teenagers, high and thought it was funny when we heard some manager bark over the radio "what is happening to all our squeegees?" we got to 57 hidden squeegees in our walk in freezer that summer.

As an off-shift supervisor trusted to run a 100+ million dollar a year factory who has 23  direct reports and is the only management in the building 50 hours a week... 15 year old me is the exact sort of worker you get when you cheap out on the pay.
 
2021-06-09 11:46:23 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Prank Call of Cthulhu: What does a "high-quality" amusement park worker look like? They don't mumble when they tell you to "keep your hands and feet inside the ride at all times"? They clean up vomit 25% faster?

They are intelligent enough to dress themselves.


Have all their front teeth and they are the same color.
 
2021-06-09 12:25:22 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: What does a "high-quality" amusement park worker look like? They don't mumble when they tell you to "keep your hands and feet inside the ride at all times"? They clean up vomit 25% faster?


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2021-06-09 1:03:12 PM  

electricjebus: Prank Call of Cthulhu: What does a "high-quality" amusement park worker look like? They don't mumble when they tell you to "keep your hands and feet inside the ride at all times"? They clean up vomit 25% faster?

I worked at an amusement park for two summers when I was 15/16... The minimum wage was lower for people with underage work permits in my state at that time and they were one of the few places that hired people who weren't yet 16.

I spent most of the time either smoking pot out back of the food stand or playing snake on my Nokia cellphone in the fridge... one of my coworkers and I even crafted a couch out of French fry boxes in the walk in fridge.  Honestly, I could do an hours worth of "work" in 15 minutes at that job.

We also stole squeegees from every other food stand/restaurant in the park because we were teenagers, high and thought it was funny when we heard some manager bark over the radio "what is happening to all our squeegees?" we got to 57 hidden squeegees in our walk in freezer that summer.

As an off-shift supervisor trusted to run a 100+ million dollar a year factory who has 23  direct reports and is the only management in the building 50 hours a week... 15 year old me is the exact sort of worker you get when you cheap out on the pay.


Dude! You would have been an excellent mentor for 12 year old me!

I did farm work from the age of 12 to 17. Horrid work conditions that only kids with fathers who wanted to make a man out of them would have considered. We were in the middle of corn fields which were hundreds of acres with 15 year olds as supervision. I will give the job credit for compelling me to work harder in school so I would never have to take another manual labor gig. I respect the folks who do that kind of labor, but it isn't my thing.

/Detasseling. How to instill respect for migrant workers.
//We should require any legislator fighting immigration reform to walk in the appropriate shoes for a day
///Three is a magic number!
 
2021-06-09 8:06:18 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: What does a "high-quality" amusement park worker look like?


Mouse ears
 
2021-06-10 11:49:57 AM  

shabu: electricjebus: Prank Call of Cthulhu: What does a "high-quality" amusement park worker look like? They don't mumble when they tell you to "keep your hands and feet inside the ride at all times"? They clean up vomit 25% faster?

I worked at an amusement park for two summers when I was 15/16... The minimum wage was lower for people with underage work permits in my state at that time and they were one of the few places that hired people who weren't yet 16.

I spent most of the time either smoking pot out back of the food stand or playing snake on my Nokia cellphone in the fridge... one of my coworkers and I even crafted a couch out of French fry boxes in the walk in fridge.  Honestly, I could do an hours worth of "work" in 15 minutes at that job.

We also stole squeegees from every other food stand/restaurant in the park because we were teenagers, high and thought it was funny when we heard some manager bark over the radio "what is happening to all our squeegees?" we got to 57 hidden squeegees in our walk in freezer that summer.

As an off-shift supervisor trusted to run a 100+ million dollar a year factory who has 23  direct reports and is the only management in the building 50 hours a week... 15 year old me is the exact sort of worker you get when you cheap out on the pay.

Dude! You would have been an excellent mentor for 12 year old me!

I did farm work from the age of 12 to 17. Horrid work conditions that only kids with fathers who wanted to make a man out of them would have considered. We were in the middle of corn fields which were hundreds of acres with 15 year olds as supervision. I will give the job credit for compelling me to work harder in school so I would never have to take another manual labor gig. I respect the folks who do that kind of labor, but it isn't my thing.

/Detasseling. How to instill respect for migrant workers.
//We should require any legislator fighting immigration reform to walk in the appropriate shoes for a day
///Three is a magic number!


Kinda jealous. I'm still learning life's lessons about hard work by failing.
 
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