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(Fark)   My stove just died, in a head-spinning-round 'Your mother sucks c**ks in hell*' kinda way. I killed at the breaker box, but now I guess I need a new stove. This is your haunted appliance thread, stove edition   (fark.com) divider line
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2021-06-08 8:54:48 PM  
So when I bought this house, it came with an oven.  It was happily labeled 'magic chef' which is not, to my reckoning, a brand name of note.  Previously, I'd had to replace heating elements, and finding the parts for those weren't all that difficult-suggesting that 'magic chef!' isn't that rare of a brand, but that name isn't exactly one that inspires confidence.  Then today I turned it on and it started this hard core buzzing noise, which I gotta admit is not ideal.  Anyway, it's dead.  It was buzzing and making fearsome noises and even now I'm eying it, fire extinguisher at the ready, because JFC appliances are not supposed to do this kinda shiat.* I had to run out to the breaker box and shut the farker off and even now I'm kind of expecting the ghosts of my bad casseroles to attempt to exact vengeance and that's just not shiat you really wanna deal with.

I apparently need a new stove.  I love cooking, and I may not actually be any good at it, but I need a new stove.  Suggestions?  I'm thinking about going with an induction cook top but I'd like to hear ideas.


*Note: previously, this stove had demonstrated a problem where if you turned the front right burner on, it would immediately go to BURN DOWN THE WORLD mode and go full red-hot, even if you had it on 'warm.' It would also make uh, noises, like crackling sounds.  They sounded evil.  I stopped using that burner.
 
2021-06-08 9:00:05 PM  
Funny. I just replaced the circuit-breaker on my oven and am about to test it by cooking some fish sticks in it.
 
2021-06-08 9:01:15 PM  
BTW:  I once had an electric heating-element on the cooktop explode.  I replaced it and it's been fine.
 
2021-06-08 9:01:43 PM  
Magic Chef used to be a good. Then Whirlpool got them. Then they spun them off. If the stove is over 20 years old it's probably still great if you replace the burners. If it's less it's probably scrap metal at this point.

Funny. The older ones are worth refurb and the newer ones should just get canned because their obsolescence was planned.
 
2021-06-08 9:03:26 PM  
And personally I prefer to cook with gas. Less shiat to break and better safeguards.
 
2021-06-08 9:04:18 PM  
I too am looking to go induction, but make sure your cookware supports it, otherwise you are going to be looking at a pretty big cost to replace everything you put on your stove.  I am slowly replacing everything as it wears out with industrial kitchen versions that support induction.  Don't buy from retail, go to a restaurant supply and you will get stuff that is 5x better quality at a similar or cheaper price than crap like all-clad and caphalon.

If you have the space, and budget, consider a steam oven and separate induction cooktop, dry sous vide and perfect bread once you get the hang of it.
 
2021-06-08 9:04:42 PM  
Ha...my oven's lower element went in a similar way, buzzing and sparking where it had cracked through even when it was turned off. I couldn't find the fire extinguisher and while I figured that fire inside the oven was not as alarming as fire outside the oven, I was getting pretty nervous. My husband had run up to the store so I called him, intending to casually ask him to pick up a fire extinguisher, but when he answered and I asked if he were still at the store he said he was already on the way home. "Why, what did you need?"

"Uh, nothing, see you soon."

I figured out how to shut the breaker off and when he got home I said, "So, hey...I didnt think it was safe to tell you I needed a fire extinguisher while you were driving, and I think it's handled for now, but the oven is broken."

I got the same exasperated look as when he found me disassembling the shredder to clear a jam.
 
2021-06-08 9:06:39 PM  
The oven also has a element. Remove the element(s) and inspect them.

The buzz etc is probably a break in that element. These are simple repairs/replacment parts. Tho you might need a 'hex nut driver' depending on your oven.
Also, if the element is fine, take off the back of the stove......and.......
Oh fark it just buy a new one.
 
2021-06-08 9:06:43 PM  
Also I have one of those glass-top stoves and I hate it and it's possessed. Each burner has a mind of its own and will either take a week to boil water or burn your food to a crisp in low.

I need a personal chef.
 
2021-06-08 9:06:51 PM  
While operating and turning, my microwave was making this weird howling whiney sound. Starts out real low then gets loud. It used to belong to a friend of mine. HE'S BEEN DEAD FOR 9 YEARS
 
2021-06-08 9:07:31 PM  

Creepy Lurker Guy: BTW:  I once had an electric heating-element on the cooktop explode.  I replaced it and it's been fine.


I've replaced a couple of the heating elements on this thing already.  That's a soluble problem, because you can just swap out, or at worst case, unscrew the old bad thing and put the new thing in.  This is something new; there was a literal HA HA HA HA sound (okay, I might be exaggerating slightly) but honestly, when you hear crackling and sparking going on in places behind the control panel, you know that Bad Things (tm) are happening.

It was like a Disney villain took up living behind the dials of this thing, and all I was trying to do was heat up takeout.  This seems terribly unfair.  On the bright side, I have a charcoal grill to solve the cooking problem, and the house doesn't currently appear to be on fire, so there's that.
 
2021-06-08 9:08:15 PM  
If gas is a realistic option, do that.
Look into your local used appliance dealers.
Do NOT bother with the home warrantees - worse than useless.
 
2021-06-08 9:11:21 PM  
Old breaker:
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New breaker, it's a two-pole GFCI:
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Inside the box:
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The FAULT light is on because I turned off the generator to keep it from coming on.  The box is cluttered because it has wiring for the generator as well as wiring fro the solar panels.  Note the red and black wires for the oven are aluminum (houe built in 1969).
 
2021-06-08 9:13:09 PM  

toraque: when you hear crackling and sparking going on in places behind the control panel, you know that Bad Things (tm) are happening.


Opening the control-panel was the first thing I did.
 
2021-06-08 9:16:51 PM  
The oven heated okay.  I just put the fish-sticks in.
 
2021-06-08 9:19:24 PM  
My stove/oven "died" when a mouse crawled up in it and died. After it peed. Then the pee and the dead mouse cooked. Oh god the smell.

Fix-It man said that mine was not even close to the worst stove/mouse case he's seen.
 
2021-06-08 9:20:21 PM  

Wanebo: And personally I prefer to cook with gas. Less shiat to break and better safeguards.


I prefer gas as well. You can put a breadbag over the burner and inflate it and it will float.  Then you can explode it.  Sort of a flying Molotov Cocktail.
 
2021-06-08 9:22:11 PM  

namegoeshere: Fix-It man said that mine was not even close to the worst stove/mouse case he's seen.


I once had an obstruction removed from my sewer-line.  The plumber asked if he could keep it.  He said the local plumbers get together periodically to compare the worst things they've removed from drains.
 
2021-06-08 9:38:45 PM  

Creepy Lurker Guy: toraque: when you hear crackling and sparking going on in places behind the control panel, you know that Bad Things (tm) are happening.

Opening the control-panel was the first thing I did.


You know, when I hear cackling daemons plotting my demise behind a doorway?  I don't open that farking door.

I actually did a year as an electrician's apprentice so I do know some things, and one of those is that I can pay people to deal with this for me, lol.  Also, back in my band days, I was the guy who made our shiatty PA system kinda work and the running joke was that we weren't ready to go on stage until I'd electrocuted myself at least once.  I'm not gonna fark with high voltage. I learned at least something from all that.

All that said, my house has gas heat and the kitchen is only a few feet from the gas furnace.  It probably would not be all that hard to run a gas line to the range, if that were the best option.  What's better, though?  Most of my cookware is cast iron or stainless steel, so I could deal with either way, but a lot of what I've heard is that induction is better than gas even if it's more expensive.  Thats not a huge issue for me, though,
 
2021-06-08 9:40:00 PM  
Should have opted out of that Amazon thingy
 
2021-06-08 9:46:10 PM  
Jimmy Fallon and Paul Rudd Recreate "You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)" Music Video
Youtube oU9F6J1lafY
 
2021-06-08 9:47:03 PM  
Yay!  Yummy golden fish-sticks for dinner!
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Looks like the problem was the old circuit-breaker.
 
2021-06-08 9:48:38 PM  

Creepy Lurker Guy: Yay!  Yummy golden fish-sticks for dinner!
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Looks like the problem was the old circuit-breaker.


Now you're just taunting me with your working oven.  This ain't cool, man.
 
2021-06-08 10:00:22 PM  
When I moved into a new house in January of 1990, it seemed that everything that had a plug quit working. Alarm clocks and clock radios, every small kitchen appliance, CD players (shut up it was 1990 we didn't have computers your damn whippersnappers!) etc.

And I soon found out that the kitchen was a no electronics zone. Not only would phones (landlines AND mobiles) get static and crosschat and all sorts of horrible things, but if you set the kitchen clock (of any sort - I had several over the 30 years I lived there) to the correct time, it took only 10 minutes to a day and a half for the electricity to go out in the house. Every. F*cking. Time.
 
2021-06-08 10:10:20 PM  

toraque: Now you're just taunting me with your working oven.


Bwahaha!
 
2021-06-08 10:35:38 PM  

toraque: It probably would not be all that hard to run a gas line to the range, if that were the best option. What's better, though?


I prefer gas, but I'm not an expert. Any professional chef will tell you gas is better.
 
2021-06-08 10:40:58 PM  

dionysusaur: If gas is a realistic option, do that.
Look into your local used appliance dealers.
Do NOT bother with the home warrantees - worse than useless.


This. I did this because:

namegoeshere: My stove/oven "died" when a mouse crawled up in it and died. After it peed. Then the pee and the dead mouse cooked. Oh god the smell.

Fix-It man said that mine was not even close to the worst stove/mouse case he's seen.


Mine was a rat. It lived in it for months apparently. I win... the "oh god, fark no, please" trophy.
(doesn't use the oven much during the summer)
 
2021-06-08 11:01:37 PM  

namegoeshere: My stove/oven "died" when a mouse crawled up in it and died. After it peed. Then the pee and the dead mouse cooked. Oh god the smell.

Fix-It man said that mine was not even close to the worst stove/mouse case he's seen.


Here's something I learned: if the cat pees on the woodstove during the heat of summer, and you clean it off, you have not cleaned it off. You think you have, but you haven't. When the weather cools down and you long for coziness and you light up that first stack of cordwood...I swear to god it manifested itself like farking Slimer in the living room.
 
2021-06-08 11:13:26 PM  

Dallymo: namegoeshere: My stove/oven "died" when a mouse crawled up in it and died. After it peed. Then the pee and the dead mouse cooked. Oh god the smell.

Fix-It man said that mine was not even close to the worst stove/mouse case he's seen.

Here's something I learned: if the cat pees on the woodstove during the heat of summer, and you clean it off, you have not cleaned it off. You think you have, but you haven't. When the weather cools down and you long for coziness and you light up that first stack of cordwood...I swear to god it manifested itself like farking Slimer in the living room.


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2021-06-08 11:22:35 PM  
toraque:
I've replaced a couple of the heating elements on this thing already.  That's a soluble problem, because you can just swap out, or at worst case, unscrew the old bad thing and put the new thing in.  This is something new; there was a literal HA HA HA HA sound (okay, I might be exaggerating slightly) but honestly, when you hear crackling and sparking going on in places behind the control panel, you know that Bad Things (tm) are happening.

It was like a Disney villain took up living behind the dials of this thing, and all I was trying to do was heat up takeout.  This seems terribly unfair.  On the bright side, I have a charcoal grill to solve the cooking problem, and the house doesn't currently appear to be on fire, so there's that.


So... Open 'er up and post pictures.
 
2021-06-08 11:38:20 PM  
all's I can really say is,

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/only gh-gh-ghosts in my kitchen inhabit our overhead fan ventpipe
//and holee-fark does it ever creep the cats out something fierce in bad weather
///spooks out $mai_waifu and me too, so I can't really blame the cats for getting upset
\\/sometimes I seriously think something is living in there...
 
2021-06-08 11:57:33 PM  
Surprised no one has schooled this thread yet in the distinction between a stove and a range.

/the range is the entire appliance, the stove is just the top of it
 
2021-06-09 12:18:32 AM  

toraque: So when I bought this house, it came with an oven.  It was happily labeled 'magic chef' which is not, to my reckoning, a brand name of note.


Are you a muggle? These are only designed for wizards.
 
2021-06-09 12:38:07 AM  
Not so CSB:

The oven heating element crapped out in my range around 3 weeks ago. It's not a super old model, but with the current manufacturing shortage, I had a hell of a time finding the replacement part online, and certainly not from a source that'd have it here before farking August. So I called Sears up (this range was a Sears brand purchased by the previous homeowner, and even though it wasn't under warranty, they seemed like the right choice to try to find parts I need). They said they had to send a tech out to do a diagnostic in order to go through their supply chain for parts, so I agree, figuring $90 is more than worth getting this taken care of sooner than I could on my own.

Turns out even though the bake heating element is the only thing not working, it was the control board (yes, I was too lazy to take off the back panel and prod around with a multimeter). Tech says they can order it, it will be shipped to me, and that they'd be out in a couple weeks for the installation.

Well, fast forward to today, which was the installation date. The part hasn't arrived, and I'm not hearing from the tech. So I call Sears up to see wtf. I find out they were unable to procure the part they said they ordered, so they just cancelled my whole service ticket. Without telling me. We'll skip past the next few minutes, which prompted my wife, whose office is across the house from mine, to ask me who I was cussing out over the phone. They offer to refund everything but the diagnostic fee, to which I respond that I'll just dispute the whole payment through my bank, and they can view that lost $90 as payment for my wasted time.

At any rate, after hours of hunting around online, and a trip to the Best Buy down the road in Antimaskerville, I have a new induction (old one is glass-top radiant) range being delivered in two days. It's not exactly what I want, but given the shortages and the fact that I plan to move the fark out of Texas in the next year or two, it's good enough without me tossing a few grand into the void for limited use.

And yes, I grabbed a fridge magnet and did science on all my cookware. Turns out a lot of cheaper sauce pans I own are falsely labelled "stainless steel", while a few older ones with no material listed are actually pretty damn thick gauge stainless. Ultimately, I'm skating out of this needing to buy a couple sauce pans and a large saute pan with lid.

/end NSCSB
 
2021-06-09 12:43:25 AM  

olrasputin: Not so CSB:

The oven heating element crapped out in my range around 3 weeks ago. It's not a super old model, but with the current manufacturing shortage, I had a hell of a time finding the replacement part online, and certainly not from a source that'd have it here before farking August. So I called Sears up (this range was a Sears brand purchased by the previous homeowner, and even though it wasn't under warranty, they seemed like the right choice to try to find parts I need). They said they had to send a tech out to do a diagnostic in order to go through their supply chain for parts, so I agree, figuring $90 is more than worth getting this taken care of sooner than I could on my own.

Turns out even though the bake heating element is the only thing not working, it was the control board (yes, I was too lazy to take off the back panel and prod around with a multimeter). Tech says they can order it, it will be shipped to me, and that they'd be out in a couple weeks for the installation.

Well, fast forward to today, which was the installation date. The part hasn't arrived, and I'm not hearing from the tech. So I call Sears up to see wtf. I find out they were unable to procure the part they said they ordered, so they just cancelled my whole service ticket. Without telling me. We'll skip past the next few minutes, which prompted my wife, whose office is across the house from mine, to ask me who I was cussing out over the phone. They offer to refund everything but the diagnostic fee, to which I respond that I'll just dispute the whole payment through my bank, and they can view that lost $90 as payment for my wasted time.

At any rate, after hours of hunting around online, and a trip to the Best Buy down the road in Antimaskerville, I have a new induction (old one is glass-top radiant) range being delivered in two days. It's not exactly what I want, but given the shortages and the fact that I plan to move the fark out of Texas in the next year or two, it's good enough without me tossing a few grand into the void for limited use.

And yes, I grabbed a fridge magnet and did science on all my cookware. Turns out a lot of cheaper sauce pans I own are falsely labelled "stainless steel", while a few older ones with no material listed are actually pretty damn thick gauge stainless. Ultimately, I'm skating out of this needing to buy a couple sauce pans and a large saute pan with lid.

/end NSCSB


holy.
balls.

gratz on the science part, at least?

/also your poor wife, mine ain't so much like the cussing either
 
2021-06-09 12:49:01 AM  

tintar: olrasputin: Not so CSB:

The oven heating element crapped out in my range around 3 weeks ago. It's not a super old model, but with the current manufacturing shortage, I had a hell of a time finding the replacement part online, and certainly not from a source that'd have it here before farking August. So I called Sears up (this range was a Sears brand purchased by the previous homeowner, and even though it wasn't under warranty, they seemed like the right choice to try to find parts I need). They said they had to send a tech out to do a diagnostic in order to go through their supply chain for parts, so I agree, figuring $90 is more than worth getting this taken care of sooner than I could on my own.

Turns out even though the bake heating element is the only thing not working, it was the control board (yes, I was too lazy to take off the back panel and prod around with a multimeter). Tech says they can order it, it will be shipped to me, and that they'd be out in a couple weeks for the installation.

Well, fast forward to today, which was the installation date. The part hasn't arrived, and I'm not hearing from the tech. So I call Sears up to see wtf. I find out they were unable to procure the part they said they ordered, so they just cancelled my whole service ticket. Without telling me. We'll skip past the next few minutes, which prompted my wife, whose office is across the house from mine, to ask me who I was cussing out over the phone. They offer to refund everything but the diagnostic fee, to which I respond that I'll just dispute the whole payment through my bank, and they can view that lost $90 as payment for my wasted time.

At any rate, after hours of hunting around online, and a trip to the Best Buy down the road in Antimaskerville, I have a new induction (old one is glass-top radiant) range being delivered in two days. It's not exactly what I want, but given the shortages and the fact that I plan to move the fark out of Texas in the next year or two, it's g ...


Oh, my wife's probably a bigger potty mouth than I am. She was just on a call for work at the time (luckily not one she was leading).
 
2021-06-09 1:02:35 AM  

olrasputin: Not so CSB:
[...]
Well, fast forward to today, which was the installation date. The part hasn't arrived, and I'm not hearing from the tech. So I call Sears up to see wtf. I find out they were unable to procure the part they said they ordered,


This year has been sucking for that. My (electric) lawnmower died, ordered the $70 circuitboard plus seventeen farking dollars for shipping, and it's been backordered for the past month and a half. Damned place didn't even tell me, I had to email them to find that out.
 
2021-06-09 1:04:00 AM  

Creepy Lurker Guy: namegoeshere: Fix-It man said that mine was not even close to the worst stove/mouse case he's seen.

I once had an obstruction removed from my sewer-line.  The plumber asked if he could keep it.  He said the local plumbers get together periodically to compare the worst things they've removed from drains.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/tr​a​vel_news/article-3275851/Pictured-giga​ntic-rat-attempted-sneak-hotel-got-stu​ck-TOILET.html
 
2021-06-09 1:49:15 AM  
Subby needs to watch some jail/prison cooking channels on youtube
 
2021-06-09 2:17:21 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Subby needs to watch some jail/prison cooking channels on youtube


Now you're cookin' with ass!
 
2021-06-09 2:20:37 AM  

optikeye: [YouTube video: Jimmy Fallon and Paul Rudd Recreate "You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)" Music Video]


People with talent need to stop propping up falon.

/kinda gay for Paul
 
2021-06-09 2:42:43 AM  
The image is becoming clearer
I see you making a voyage
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to Home Depot
 
2021-06-09 3:31:07 AM  

Fingerware Error: toraque: It probably would not be all that hard to run a gas line to the range, if that were the best option. What's better, though?

I prefer gas, but I'm not an expert. Any professional chef will tell you gas is better.


Is it because it's easier to make fine adjustments?

I wondered what the deal with gas is.

Maybe it's because you can tilt your pans, as chefs always do, and keep the flames on the pan, which you can't do with a flat heating element.
 
2021-06-09 5:54:58 AM  
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Get this in your home. La Cornue. It's only $500,000.
 
2021-06-09 7:02:55 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: Fingerware Error: toraque: It probably would not be all that hard to run a gas line to the range, if that were the best option. What's better, though?

I prefer gas, but I'm not an expert. Any professional chef will tell you gas is better.

Is it because it's easier to make fine adjustments?

I wondered what the deal with gas is.

Maybe it's because you can tilt your pans, as chefs always do, and keep the flames on the pan, which you can't do with a flat heating element.


That also, but fast response to temperature changes is the main reason for me. If I need to dial down the heat or crank it up, it's nice to have that take effect quickly.
 
2021-06-09 7:11:08 AM  

Fubegra: Ketchuponsteak: Fingerware Error: toraque: It probably would not be all that hard to run a gas line to the range, if that were the best option. What's better, though?

I prefer gas, but I'm not an expert. Any professional chef will tell you gas is better.

Is it because it's easier to make fine adjustments?

I wondered what the deal with gas is.

Maybe it's because you can tilt your pans, as chefs always do, and keep the flames on the pan, which you can't do with a flat heating element.

That also, but fast response to temperature changes is the main reason for me. If I need to dial down the heat or crank it up, it's nice to have that take effect quickly.


Admittedly, induction does that too. We just replaced our cooktop with another gas one. Partially because we've never used induction before and partly because induction would have required electrical work.
 
2021-06-09 7:14:51 AM  

Fubegra: Ketchuponsteak: Fingerware Error: toraque: It probably would not be all that hard to run a gas line to the range, if that were the best option. What's better, though?

I prefer gas, but I'm not an expert. Any professional chef will tell you gas is better.

Is it because it's easier to make fine adjustments?

I wondered what the deal with gas is.

Maybe it's because you can tilt your pans, as chefs always do, and keep the flames on the pan, which you can't do with a flat heating element.

That also, but fast response to temperature changes is the main reason for me. If I need to dial down the heat or crank it up, it's nice to have that take effect quickly.


I have gas ranges in my Pittsburgh houses and I totally agree. Some areas like Long Island don't have widespread gas line infrastructure. Induction range prices are coming down, but a couple of years ago they were extremely expensive. I bought a range with a radiant heat cooktop. It's not the greatest, but it's much better than those resistance coils.
 
2021-06-09 7:16:19 AM  
 
2021-06-09 7:20:53 AM  

Lighting: I too am looking to go induction, but make sure your cookware supports it, otherwise you are going to be looking at a pretty big cost to replace everything you put on your stove.  I am slowly replacing everything as it wears out with industrial kitchen versions that support induction.  Don't buy from retail, go to a restaurant supply and you will get stuff that is 5x better quality at a similar or cheaper price than crap like all-clad and caphalon.

If you have the space, and budget, consider a steam oven and separate induction cooktop, dry sous vide and perfect bread once you get the hang of it.


NO NO NO NO NEVER INDUCTION!!!

All induction cooking products I've worked on have two control boards and then two enormous relay boards -- one for each pair of burners.

When one burner goes out, you have to replace the induction relay board and those were $500+ last time I put one in.

The user interface is usually capacitive touch and has all the weaknesses those UIs are prone to: grease, spills, and cleaning products.

Cooking doesn't need to be over-engineered. Buy a stove with knobs.
 
2021-06-09 7:22:54 AM  
I have my share of repair orders / paperwork that got screwed up (including the saga of the brand new oil burner and why I lost heat for 4 days only a month after getting it installed... and then again the year after)

But as we're specifically on kitchen appliances....

Many years ago, I almost helped my neighbor burn down his house.  He had watched Tyler Florence on Food Network, and decided he's going to make fried chicken and lots of sides

The first thing I notice is that he's got his Dutch oven 2/3 full of oil.  And I mention that it seems kinda high, as I've never deep fried with it more than about 1/2 full of oil, preferably 1/3.  And he insists that no, he watched the episode and it's the same pot, and he's got it right

We have every burner on the stove going with the frying, the green beans, the mashed potatoes, etc.  it finally comes time to drop in the chicken

And the oil bubbles up and flows right over the side of the pot.   And into the burner (electric coil) and lights on fire.  And the kitchen is too small / crowded to have any free counter space.

So I start putting things in the oven to try to clear space.  I ask John to grab the baking soda, but he has. I clue. I put a lid over the fire but after a minute or so realize from the sounds of popping electronics that it's still burning (there's airflow under the cooktop).   We pull the stove away from the wall and I run over to my house to grab a fire extinguisher

Just as I get back, John has retrieved his extinguisher from the basement (he also has oil heat) and is dousing the stove

Conveniently, however, John had gotten me a free stove a month or two before when one of his friend's parents decided to remodel their kitchen.  And I hadn't disposed of my other stove yet (from when they had remodeled their kitchen while I was trying to close on my house), so I gave them the new stove and put the backup stove into use at my house.

So other than the scorched wall, and    dinner being late, we didn't ruin too much.   But I still blame John for it, even though he insists that I'm the one who put the chicken in and it overflowed.

/has had the old stove for 20+ years now
//likes it better than the glass topped one, as it's short so I can hang my tongs and such on the wall behind it
 
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