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2021-06-08 11:18:07 AM  
The knuckle draggers will soon start attacking people from India.
 
2021-06-08 11:19:32 AM  
I am hoping for a variant that has no to little effect on the vaccinated but is deadly within a couple of days for the unvaccinated. The level stupid and horrible human beings in the US needs to be reduced. A form of social darwinism.

/I do know the original reasoning for social darwinism and would find it humourous for it to be applied to republicans
 
2021-06-08 11:22:21 AM  
Coming soon from deep-q-thinkers: "Why are all these outbreaks only happening in red states? The Democrats are making us sick!"
 
2021-06-08 11:33:19 AM  
Maybe I'll go get my 6 month vaccine booster 5 months early, just to play it safe.
 
2021-06-08 11:35:20 AM  

Dustin_00: Coming soon from deep-q-thinkers: "Why are all these outbreaks only happening in red states? The Democrats are making us sick!"


"This Plandemic, which is totally fake, came from China, who totally released this fake virus from a lab to make us get sick and die but we aren't getting sick and dying, just check the hospital ERs...if the democrats will let you!  They faked this whole thing and now they are killing us with this virus, which is fake by the way!"
 
2021-06-08 11:37:28 AM  
I don't understand half of what is being said in that thread... but it looks terrifying

Today is the end of the two week period following my 2nd Moderna shot, so I'm (hopefully) fully protected now?
 
2021-06-08 11:37:58 AM  
Now Q will claim Biden and Fauci have modified Covid to be a targeted bio-weapon.
 
2021-06-08 11:49:00 AM  

GardenWeasel: Now Q will claim Biden and Fauci have modified Covid to be a targeted bio-weapon.


And they will still refuse to wear a mask or do anything to try and stop the spread...
 
2021-06-08 11:49:08 AM  
My reaction to seeing a tweet/thread from Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding has automatically become "Oh shiat... we're farked, aren't we?"
 
2021-06-08 12:03:01 PM  
We might be through with the pandemic. But the pandemic isn't through with us.
 
2021-06-08 12:17:18 PM  

eurotrader: I am hoping for a variant that has no to little effect on the vaccinated but is deadly within a couple of days for the unvaccinated. The level stupid and horrible human beings in the US needs to be reduced. A form of social darwinism.

/I do know the original reasoning for social darwinism and would find it humourous for it to be applied to republicans


My one year old appreciates your sentiment.
 
2021-06-08 12:23:24 PM  
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2021-06-08 12:37:28 PM  
Here's hoping for a new variant that turns the unvaccinated orange.  You did it to yourself.
 
2021-06-08 12:39:53 PM  
I'm fully vaccinated. Those who aren't are insane. Sounds like a win win to me.
 
2021-06-08 12:42:18 PM  
The news last week was about how immunocompromised folks are not showing COVID antibodies after vaccination. There were virtually no early studies on whether the vaccines work on people with autoimmune diseases.
With this information on the variant, my confidence in my own safety is dwindling. Why can't it just pick on the unvaccinated and leave the rest of us alone?
 
2021-06-08 12:42:58 PM  
Not really ready for the schadenfreude party until we can vaccinate the really young and get more coverage for the disadvantaged, thanks.
 
2021-06-08 12:43:08 PM  

OldRod: I don't understand half of what is being said in that thread... but it looks terrifying

Today is the end of the two week period following my 2nd Moderna shot, so I'm (hopefully) fully protected now?


Maybe, maybe not.

Theres no study on the moderna shot yet against that delta/india variant but its probably very near the Pfizer shot.

Pfizer one dose against delta = 32% efficacity
Pfizer two doses against delta = 88% efficacity

Those who got the astrazeneca (tens of millions vaccinated) are kind of screwed.

Astrazeneca 1 dose : 33% efficacity
Astrazeoneca 2 doses : 60% efficacity

Imagine how shiatty the chinese and russian vaccines are against the delta variant if Astrazeneca goes to 60%? Probably in the 30% range after 2 doses.

Shiat about to get real. 2020 was just part 1 of the pandemic. The delta variant will fark us even more since people are sick of the pandemic.
 
2021-06-08 12:43:08 PM  

Circusdog320: The knuckle draggers will soon start attacking people from India.


Considering the actual demographic hat is largely attacking Asian people, I'd be a little more careful with your choice of words. You don't want to be labeled a racist.
 
2021-06-08 12:43:14 PM  
This would be a good time to remind everyone that small changes in average temperatures have an ENORMOUS effect on the biomes of bacteria, viruses and fungi (and other critters consequently).

But not to worry, if you want to worry about something, worry about fresh water problems over the next 20 years or so (the approximate upper end of my time left managing spins).

Oh, and think about what we've lost diddling around the past four years.
 
2021-06-08 12:43:43 PM  

eurotrader: I am hoping for a variant that has no to little effect on the vaccinated but is deadly within a couple of days for the unvaccinated. The level stupid and horrible human beings in the US needs to be reduced. A form of social darwinism.

/I do know the original reasoning for social darwinism and would find it humourous for it to be applied to republicans


Jesus, you just really hate children!
 
2021-06-08 12:43:48 PM  

Dustin_00: Coming soon from deep-q-thinkers: "Why are all these outbreaks only happening in red states? The Democrats are making us sick!"


And my response would be:

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2021-06-08 12:43:54 PM  

testosteronephobe: The news last week was about how immunocompromised folks are not showing COVID antibodies after vaccination. There were virtually no early studies on whether the vaccines work on people with autoimmune diseases.
With this information on the variant, my confidence in my own safety is dwindling. Why can't it just pick on the unvaccinated and leave the rest of us alone?


Well, shiat. I missed that one. I've got several immunocompromised friends. fark.
 
2021-06-08 12:44:19 PM  
I thought that when it starts to warm up, the virus will just disappear.  Like magic.
 
2021-06-08 12:45:40 PM  
The ones who are going to get screwed the most are the 0-25 years old who think they are immune. They are not. They are dying like flies in India.

One thing is sure, im keeping my kids from school until they can get their pfizer vaccines.
 
2021-06-08 12:46:25 PM  

RodneyToady: My reaction to seeing a tweet/thread from Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding has automatically become "Oh shiat... we're farked, aren't we?"


His threads are total panic porn. He's like the Seth Abramson of medical twitter. Not sayin' he's wrong, but he seems to be constantly dialed to 11 on the worst-case-scenario-meter.
 
2021-06-08 12:46:50 PM  
XD

Sure it is...
 
2021-06-08 12:47:00 PM  

testosteronephobe: The news last week was about how immunocompromised folks are not showing COVID antibodies after vaccination. There were virtually no early studies on whether the vaccines work on people with autoimmune diseases.
With this information on the variant, my confidence in my own safety is dwindling. Why can't it just pick on the unvaccinated and leave the rest of us alone?


People on immunosuppressive drugs won't have a strong immune response because... their immune system is suppressed by immunosuppressive drugs. If you need an article to explain that to you, COVID shouldn't be at the top of your list of concerns.
 
2021-06-08 12:47:19 PM  

eurotrader: I am hoping for a variant that has no to little effect on the vaccinated but is deadly within a couple of days for the unvaccinated. The level stupid and horrible human beings in the US needs to be reduced. A form of social darwinism.

/I do know the original reasoning for social darwinism and would find it humourous for it to be applied to republicans


... Given that children still haven't been, and cannot legally be, vaccinated, and that there are quite a few people for whome the vaccine just might not take/work (like my mother, who is one a variety of immunosupressants due to a lupus like disease--and who did get vaccinated, but, will it protect her? no one knows!):

fark you.
 
2021-06-08 12:47:25 PM  

lysdexic: testosteronephobe: The news last week was about how immunocompromised folks are not showing COVID antibodies after vaccination. There were virtually no early studies on whether the vaccines work on people with autoimmune diseases.
With this information on the variant, my confidence in my own safety is dwindling. Why can't it just pick on the unvaccinated and leave the rest of us alone?

Well, shiat. I missed that one. I've got several immunocompromised friends. fark.


My rheumatologist says there is no established level of antibodies you need to be safe, but zero is probably not good.
 
2021-06-08 12:47:44 PM  

OldRod: I don't understand half of what is being said in that thread... but it looks terrifying

Today is the end of the two week period following my 2nd Moderna shot, so I'm (hopefully) fully protected now?


You're "as good as it's going to get" protected now. Which is still really good, but maybe not good enough to spare you from all harm. So you might want to continue wearing a mask when appropriate and avoiding unnecessary indoor gatherings for a while longer.

None of this is a sharp yes/no matter. Vaccines give you a certain level of antibodies and other immune stuff in your system, and those antibody levels then gradually fade over the following months/years. When you're exposed to a virus, it's a race between that virus trying to replicate and spread as fast as it can vs. your body noticing it and shutting it down. That outcome can range anywhere from "never even noticed that I was infected" to "virus wins; flawless victory".

Vaccines tilt the odds in one direction while new variants go the other way. Eventually we'll need an updated version of the vaccine which accounts for the changes in its genetic sequence since early 2020, so that our bodies can make antibodies against the correct targets.
 
2021-06-08 12:47:55 PM  

lolmao500: Those who got the astrazeneca (tens of millions vaccinated) are kind of screwed.

Astrazeneca 1 dose : 33% efficacity
Astrazeoneca 2 doses : 60% efficacity


There will of course be no data available, but it'd be nice to know the efficacy of Astrazeneca followed by Pfizer/Moderna. Cause that's what a bunch of us poor slobs in Canada are likely to end up with.
 
2021-06-08 12:48:15 PM  

OldRod: Today is the end of the two week period following my 2nd Moderna shot, so I'm (hopefully) fully protected now?


"Fully" is a tricky word.  You still have a very small chance of getting it, but your likelihood of getting a severe case is much smaller still.

That being said, the virus is still mutating, and you will likely need periodic booster shots from now on, probably starting in a year.
 
2021-06-08 12:48:30 PM  
Fark you I got (both of) mine?
 
2021-06-08 12:48:38 PM  
I just feel bad for kids under 12 that can't currently get vaccinated.

That said, severe cases are more rare in children than adults.

Adults should know better.
 
2021-06-08 12:49:33 PM  

Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: RodneyToady: My reaction to seeing a tweet/thread from Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding has automatically become "Oh shiat... we're farked, aren't we?"

His threads are total panic porn. He's like the Seth Abramson of medical twitter. Not sayin' he's wrong, but he seems to be constantly dialed to 11 on the worst-case-scenario-meter.


If you're in denial of reality, its not the worlds problem. Just look at whats happening in India, its coming here.

The anti-maskers/antivaxxers are about to be decimated... and nothing of value will be lost.
 
2021-06-08 12:50:30 PM  
All children up to a certain age can't get vaccinated.
 
2021-06-08 12:50:31 PM  
Threadreader? Really?

Or right, it's not news it's Fark.
 
2021-06-08 12:50:33 PM  
Great.....that's terrifying. I had it last year and got my Pfizers....this isn't done with us by a long shot..
 
2021-06-08 12:50:40 PM  

RodneyToady: My reaction to seeing a tweet/thread from Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding has automatically become "Oh shiat... we're farked, aren't we?"


He must be fun at parties.
 
2021-06-08 12:51:35 PM  

testosteronephobe: lysdexic: testosteronephobe: The news last week was about how immunocompromised folks are not showing COVID antibodies after vaccination. There were virtually no early studies on whether the vaccines work on people with autoimmune diseases.
With this information on the variant, my confidence in my own safety is dwindling. Why can't it just pick on the unvaccinated and leave the rest of us alone?

Well, shiat. I missed that one. I've got several immunocompromised friends. fark.

My rheumatologist says there is no established level of antibodies you need to be safe, but zero is probably not good.


COVID antibody tests aren't approved to detect the kinds of antibodies that your body produces after vaccination. I am not immunocompromised in any way, I took two doses of the Moderna vaccine, and odds are I would get a negative result from such an antibody test. I know that's no benefit to you or anyone else with immune system issues, but don't take a negative antibody test result as dispositive proof you're unprotected from COVID.
 
2021-06-08 12:51:51 PM  

Declassify Issue: All children up to a certain age can't get vaccinated.


The FDA is expected to have an announcement about expanding the vaccines to kids under 12 this week.

M'Kay Mrs. Lovejoy?
 
2021-06-08 12:51:58 PM  
My 15 yr old son gets his 2nd  Pfizer dose Sunday. He is happy to not worry about covid because he plays sports. He's not happy that virtual school ends and he can't roll out of bed at 725 to make it to class at 730
 
2021-06-08 12:52:21 PM  

GrinzGrimly: Circusdog320: The knuckle draggers will soon start attacking people from India.

Considering the actual demographic hat is largely attacking Asian people, I'd be a little more careful with your choice of words. You don't want to be labeled a racist.


Since you went there first, I will go ahead and label you a racist.....racist.
 
2021-06-08 12:52:52 PM  

eurotrader: I am hoping for a variant that has no to little effect on the vaccinated but is deadly within a couple of days for the unvaccinated. The level stupid and horrible human beings in the US needs to be reduced. A form of social darwinism.


I would wish that too, but for kids under 12 there is no vaccine available.

How about a variant that only kills people over 18 and who are vaccinated?
 
2021-06-08 12:52:57 PM  

plecos: eurotrader: I am hoping for a variant that has no to little effect on the vaccinated but is deadly within a couple of days for the unvaccinated. The level stupid and horrible human beings in the US needs to be reduced. A form of social darwinism.

/I do know the original reasoning for social darwinism and would find it humourous for it to be applied to republicans

My one year old appreciates your sentiment.


Same from my 4 and 6 year olds, and my immunocompromised friends. I, too, wish bad things would happen to the horrible garbage people who did their best to make this last as long as possible. I lost my grandparents in March, something I don't think would have happened if those inbred troglodytes had just not been such selfish pricks. But wishing they'd become disease vectors who will spread it to vulnerable people, just because they'll also suffer and maybe die, isn't the way.
 
2021-06-08 12:53:10 PM  

FlippityFlap: Great.....that's terrifying. I had it last year and got my Pfizers....this isn't done with us by a long shot..


I see what you did there.
 
2021-06-08 12:53:21 PM  

trialpha: lolmao500: Those who got the astrazeneca (tens of millions vaccinated) are kind of screwed.

Astrazeneca 1 dose : 33% efficacity
Astrazeoneca 2 doses : 60% efficacity

There will of course be no data available, but it'd be nice to know the efficacy of Astrazeneca followed by Pfizer/Moderna. Cause that's what a bunch of us poor slobs in Canada are likely to end up with.


Should be pretty good. I can't see it being any worse than the AZ+AZ number. There's even an outside chance that it might end up being better than the Pfizer+Pfizer version, by allowing your body to develop antibodies against two slightly different forms of the spike protein (the stabilized "pre-fusion" configuration as well as the natural form of the protein). But that's only speculation; I haven't seen any data on that.
 
2021-06-08 12:53:27 PM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: Threadreader? Really?

Or right, it's not news it's Fark.


Fark has recently taken the hard position that "the only acceptable media sources are free media sources". If you want Fark to accept paid sources that throw up paywalls, there's really only one solution: lobby Drew to accept them again.
 
2021-06-08 12:53:37 PM  

eurotrader: I am hoping for a variant that has no to little effect on the vaccinated but is deadly within a couple of days for the unvaccinated. The level stupid and horrible human beings in the US needs to be reduced. A form of social darwinism.

/I do know the original reasoning for social darwinism and would find it humourous for it to be applied to republicans


Kids under 12 can't get the vaccine yet.  My youngest is 12 and getting second shot this week.  I truly feel for parents with younger children.  Some of the adults choosing not to get vaccinated are the "think of the children!!!" crew.  Yes.  Please do, and get vaccinated.  Ugh.
 
2021-06-08 12:53:41 PM  

lysdexic: Not really ready for the schadenfreude party until we can vaccinate the really young and get more coverage for the disadvantaged, thanks.


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