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(Slate)   "This past year working from home, I learned my colleagues don't know that working from home means not having your kids screaming in the background on a conference call. If I hear one more kid I'm going to snap. How can I get them to parent right?"   (slate.com) divider line
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2021-06-08 7:43:22 AM  
There's a dude at work who has his yappy dog in the room with him.  Whenever he starts talking the dog starts barking.  I can't focus on anything he says, I just heard that dog barking.  But he's probably an emotional support fur baby so I can't complain about it.   I just mute him and go play video games.
 
2021-06-08 7:54:05 AM  
My kid played saxophone in 6th grade band this year so I'm getting a kick...

Seriously though, I have found that there has been nothing but understanding of the bizarre situation we all found ourselves in over the past year.
 
2021-06-08 8:00:07 AM  
My daughter told me a story about the CEO of her company addressing the whole company in a zoom meeting and his son walked into the background wearing a frog costume. I think his wife was screwing with him and sent the kid in like that.
 
2021-06-08 8:02:27 AM  
Frankly a child giggling/screaming in the background of my meetings breaks up the boredom and keeps things fresh. There was a good dog in one meeting last week and that was nice.
 
2021-06-08 8:11:42 AM  
My cat has made several guest appearances which were usually entertaining. But the worst was the woman with the screeching parakeets. As far as screaming kids, don't you people beat them after the first time? On camera, nothing gets the message across like having an audience see it.
 
2021-06-08 8:12:03 AM  
I was on a Teams call the other day and a bunch of Blackhawk-like (clearly I'm well versed in my military aircraft) helicopters flew over my house incredibly low. I saw them coming and explained it was about to get loud and the people on the call turned into eight year olds and started yelling for me to turn my camera so they could see. People love a distraction. Especially a loud flying one.

My kids have only popped into a handful of meetings and everyone has been cool about it. Not that I would care all that much if they did mind.
 
2021-06-08 8:17:13 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: There's a dude at work who has his yappy dog in the room with him.  Whenever he starts talking the dog starts barking.  I can't focus on anything he says, I just heard that dog barking.  But he's probably an emotional support fur baby so I can't complain about it.   I just mute him and go play video games.


I was going to point out that it is in general the nature of many children that they will happily ignore their parent(s) right up until their parent(s) being showing attention to someone else. Then an instinct to compete for their attention often takes hold. Couples will understand this is a slightly different context. Dogs and cats often have a similar instinct.
 
2021-06-08 8:20:41 AM  

IgG4: y kid played saxophone in 6th grade band this year so I'm getting a kick...


I prefer online meetings with a 80s sax riff honking away in the background.

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2021-06-08 8:23:21 AM  
For a few weeks my kids were home doing online learning, and making sure I muted my mic (I don't do video) before applying my Parental-Tourettes voice was tricky.
 
2021-06-08 8:24:41 AM  
Dear Fark: this past year working from home, I have a coworker completely devoid of sympathy for the anxiety and trauma of the effects of the pandemic, both on me and my children who are all stuck at home.  What do?
 
2021-06-08 8:47:03 AM  
You can't. Most parents suck. Mine sucked despite being successful. It was only when I grew up a round 28 I woke up and appreciated my parents for who they are and what they were trying to teach me.

'You were right dad'. It's not that hard to say.
 
2021-06-08 8:49:48 AM  
Dogs and kids in the background are usually fine. What I can't tolerate is the idiots that have not figured out how to get a stable internet connection or a microphone that won't feedback 15 months into this. Get yourself closer to the access point or the access point closer to your WFH location. It's not rocket science.
 
2021-06-08 8:53:58 AM  
One of the men on my team need to replace the batteries in his smoke detector. It's been like this for months. I've asked him about it and he denies it's his smoke detector; he hears nothing. But every time he moves during an MS Teams meeting, the sound goes away.

/ I'd also like to remind people that even if your camera is off, we can still tell that you're talking with food in your mouth.
// Even kids screaming in the background beats watching co-workers put their feet on their desks to clip their toenails in the cubicle next to yours.
/// This could have been an email.
 
2021-06-08 8:55:27 AM  

Miss5280: One of the men on my team need to replace the batteries in his smoke detector. It's been like this for months. I've asked him about it and he denies it's his smoke detector; he hears nothing. But every time he moves during an MS Teams meeting, the sound goes away.

/ I'd also like to remind people that even if your camera is off, we can still tell that you're talking with food in your mouth.
// Even kids screaming in the background beats watching co-workers put their feet on their desks to clip their toenails in the cubicle next to yours.
/// This could have been an email.


Ugh!!! MUTES! Not moves. He mutes his line and the beeping stops.
 
2021-06-08 8:58:56 AM  
If your dog barks, it's being a dog, I don't care, that's what they do.
If your kid comes in, well, they probably need help with something, it's fine.
If you are audibly chewing in the microphone, I hope you get run over by a cement mixer.
 
2021-06-08 9:04:09 AM  
You could always fark off
/single
/no kids
/not a complete dick
 
2021-06-08 9:23:53 AM  
shoot the hostage colleagues, hire someone without kids.
 
2021-06-08 9:25:20 AM  

oldfarthenry: IgG4: y kid played saxophone in 6th grade band this year so I'm getting a kick...

I prefer online meetings with a 80s sax riff honking away in the background.

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My sister bought my kids one of those during Covid (saxoflute). We somehow lost the mouth piece a few weeks hours in.
 
2021-06-08 9:32:06 AM  
What I hate about Zoom meetings is when you stand up to grab lasts month's TPS reports from your filing cabinet and forget that you're not wearing pants. Or underwear.
 
2021-06-08 9:40:28 AM  

EatHam: If your dog barks, it's being a dog, I don't care, that's what they do.
If your kid comes in, well, they probably need help with something, it's fine.
If you are audibly chewing in the microphone, I hope you get run over by a cement mixer.


We've had one person like that.

I accidentally did it one time, myself, but quickly muted myself when I realized what was going on.

We had another person TYPE REALLY LOUDLY into the microphone.  BANG CLACK CLACK BANG BANG CLACK BANG CLACK BANG
 
2021-06-08 9:45:13 AM  
They're doing it wrong.  I'm as big a proponent of work from home as there is.  Working from home does NOT mean (other than during a pandemic) that you run a daycare during office hours.  Working means working.
 
2021-06-08 9:46:28 AM  

Subtonic: As far as screaming kids, don't you people beat them after the first time? On camera, nothing gets the message across...


Especially to child welfare services. They get interested pretty quickly in that sort of thing.
 
2021-06-08 9:49:07 AM  

oldfarthenry: IgG4: y kid played saxophone in 6th grade band this year so I'm getting a kick...

I prefer online meetings with a 80s sax riff honking away in the background.

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Sexy Sax Man - Careless Whisper
Youtube DFB4Iw7BHoU

R.I.P. Sexy Sax Man
 
2021-06-08 9:53:25 AM  
How many meetings are really necessary? How many questions could be just answered with a well worded email?
 
2021-06-08 10:03:01 AM  
Frankly I'm all for it. Let's stop being so precious about the formality of "meetings". It's just a bunch of people working, and I have a hope that if we can stop thinking of "business" as some separate sphere of our lives in which we act entirely differently from when we're being actual people, then perhaps some more humane decisions might get made.

The space below if provided for your snark about my naivety.
 
2021-06-08 10:09:33 AM  
I would like the ability to deliver an electric shock to people who chronically leave their line unmuted. Seriously Barb, how many times to I have to listen to you eat cereal?
 
2021-06-08 10:14:11 AM  
I took most meetings outside on the porch to avoid these sort of problems. Wouldn't work right now bc I would have to yell to be heard over the cicadas.
 
2021-06-08 10:33:35 AM  

Somacandra: Subtonic: As far as screaming kids, don't you people beat them after the first time? On camera, nothing gets the message across...

Especially to child welfare services. They get interested pretty quickly in that sort of thing.


Well, that's when you start waving the gun around. They'll leave you alone pretty quick after that.
 
2021-06-08 10:37:26 AM  

steve_wmn: Dogs and kids in the background are usually fine. What I can't tolerate is the idiots that have not figured out how to get a stable internet connection or a microphone that won't feedback 15 months into this. Get yourself closer to the access point or the access point closer to your WFH location. It's not rocket science.


Hey, spectrum SUCKS in my neighborhood.  My choices are cell data, or the Spectrum connection that goes out every couple of days and I have to reset my modem to reconnect.
 
2021-06-08 10:39:44 AM  

LL316: They're doing it wrong.  I'm as big a proponent of work from home as there is.  Working from home does NOT mean (other than during a pandemic) that you run a daycare during office hours.  Working means working.


Uhhhh....you do realize that many families did not have the luxury of in-home nannies right?
 
2021-06-08 10:45:11 AM  

capt.snicklefritz: LL316: They're doing it wrong.  I'm as big a proponent of work from home as there is.  Working from home does NOT mean (other than during a pandemic) that you run a daycare during office hours.  Working means working.

Uhhhh....you do realize that many families did not have the luxury of in-home nannies right?


What did they do before the pandemic and WFH?
 
2021-06-08 10:47:25 AM  
Our MPs deal with these things when appearing in select committees.
Cat interrupts MP as he addresses Parliamentary committee via webcam
Youtube E0eQMvQ1hlU
 
2021-06-08 10:51:32 AM  
So imo nobody should get any shiat for goofups while working from home under covid.

Moving forward, those choosing to work from home can be held to higher standards. But anyone forced to, particularly when kids aren't in school, should get a pass.
 
2021-06-08 11:04:07 AM  

Smackledorfer: So imo nobody should get any shiat for goofups while working from home under covid.

Moving forward, those choosing to work from home can be held to higher standards. But anyone forced to, particularly when kids aren't in school, should get a pass.


Absolutely.   People were doing the best they could under the circumstances.
 
2021-06-08 11:05:14 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: capt.snicklefritz: LL316: They're doing it wrong.  I'm as big a proponent of work from home as there is.  Working from home does NOT mean (other than during a pandemic) that you run a daycare during office hours.  Working means working.

Uhhhh....you do realize that many families did not have the luxury of in-home nannies right?

What did they do before the pandemic and WFH?


Send the kids into schools that are not closed due to said pandemic.
 
2021-06-08 11:22:12 AM  

capt.snicklefritz: Carter Pewterschmidt: capt.snicklefritz: LL316: They're doing it wrong.  I'm as big a proponent of work from home as there is.  Working from home does NOT mean (other than during a pandemic) that you run a daycare during office hours.  Working means working.

Uhhhh....you do realize that many families did not have the luxury of in-home nannies right?

What did they do before the pandemic and WFH?

Send the kids into schools that are not closed due to said pandemic.


Sorry, schools here reopened a couple of months ago.
 
2021-06-08 11:23:35 AM  
1) You Just Might Lose Control And Scream: The obvious indifference from the person in charge tells me you really ought to look for a new employer.  GTFO.

2) But Baby (Baby), Remember (Remember), It's My Life And I'll Do What I Want: STFU and MYOB.

3) Kodachrome. They Give Us Those Nice Bright Colors: That was actually a challenge when I sold my last house, properly disposing of the extra paint from the colors prior to my repainting.  Good for finding a novel solution.  Now anything that won't sell, please take proper precautions.

4) So Much To Take.  Not Enough Space And Not Enough Time: You're not getting money, not sure what the hold is.  Tell them to MYOB.

1a) Scream II: Shhh. They might not yet realize it's no better anywhere else.  I want them to learn this lesson by finding a new job and it's no different.

2a) It's My Life II: I stand by STFU and MYOB.
 
2021-06-08 12:01:58 PM  

LL316: They're doing it wrong.  I'm as big a proponent of work from home as there is.  Working from home does NOT mean (other than during a pandemic) that you run a daycare during office hours.  Working means working.


Not to my co-worker who constantly brought her kids into the office. Didn't want to spend money on childcare (she was quite well-paid and her husband had a cushy state job). She would spend the rest of the workday telling everyone that she was still productive, despite it being obvious to everyone that she was spending the vast majority of her time entertaining her "little men," as she called them.
 
2021-06-08 12:14:24 PM  

Merltech: How many meetings are really necessary? How many questions could be just answered with a well worded email?


If food isn't involved, every meeting could just be in email.
 
2021-06-08 12:16:14 PM  

handsome boy model: LL316: They're doing it wrong.  I'm as big a proponent of work from home as there is.  Working from home does NOT mean (other than during a pandemic) that you run a daycare during office hours.  Working means working.

Not to my co-worker who constantly brought her kids into the office. Didn't want to spend money on childcare (she was quite well-paid and her husband had a cushy state job). She would spend the rest of the workday telling everyone that she was still productive, despite it being obvious to everyone that she was spending the vast majority of her time entertaining her "little men," as she called them.


She should have been fired then.  It's real easy to be productive at home.  Far easier than it is to be productive in the office, for me anyway.  But you cannot act as if having your kids around is acceptable unless it's a 1 off situation.
 
2021-06-08 12:37:57 PM  

Merltech: How many meetings are really necessary? How many questions could be just answered with a well worded email?


THANK YOU!

There is literally nothing I need to know that can't be sent in an email. Zoom meeting are a time-suck when I could actually be DOING MY WORK!
 
2021-06-08 12:40:29 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: capt.snicklefritz: LL316: They're doing it wrong.  I'm as big a proponent of work from home as there is.  Working from home does NOT mean (other than during a pandemic) that you run a daycare during office hours.  Working means working.

Uhhhh....you do realize that many families did not have the luxury of in-home nannies right?

What did they do before the pandemic and WFH?


Become even poorer because they had to pay for daycare?
 
2021-06-08 12:45:35 PM  

casey17: Carter Pewterschmidt: capt.snicklefritz: LL316: They're doing it wrong.  I'm as big a proponent of work from home as there is.  Working from home does NOT mean (other than during a pandemic) that you run a daycare during office hours.  Working means working.

Uhhhh....you do realize that many families did not have the luxury of in-home nannies right?

What did they do before the pandemic and WFH?

Become even poorer because they had to pay for daycare?


So if they carry on paying for daycare they'd still be better off because they don't have to pay to commute into work?
 
2021-06-08 12:49:57 PM  

casey17: Merltech: How many meetings are really necessary? How many questions could be just answered with a well worded email?

THANK YOU!

There is literally nothing I need to know that can't be sent in an email. Zoom meeting are a time-suck when I could actually be DOING MY WORK!


We had an all hands meeting (required) that lasted 15 minutes longer than scheduled about returning to the office that was only relevant for folks who weren't full time remote prior to the pandemic.  A huge swath of my company was not impacted at all, but I guess it was just easier to summon everyone.
 
2021-06-08 12:59:13 PM  

Myk-House of El: casey17: Merltech: How many meetings are really necessary? How many questions could be just answered with a well worded email?

THANK YOU!

There is literally nothing I need to know that can't be sent in an email. Zoom meeting are a time-suck when I could actually be DOING MY WORK!

We had an all hands meeting (required) that lasted 15 minutes longer than scheduled about returning to the office that was only relevant for folks who weren't full time remote prior to the pandemic.  A huge swath of my company was not impacted at all, but I guess it was just easier to summon everyone.


Just be glad they don't have summoning circles.

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2021-06-08 2:13:32 PM  
My kids are pretty young, and have more than a few times sat in on calls with me if they're purely internal.

There was a day where I was having a rather grumpy call with my team, and having a cute kid sitting in and putzing with my background while we talked helped diffuse some of the grumping.

Generally speaking when they have invaded it's been pretty easy to just say "excuse me", mute, and deal with them.  But I'm lucky in that I have a stay at home spouse who can do most of the coverage of them.  Not everyone has that, and I've largely seen support for people in that position from everyone.
 
2021-06-08 2:25:46 PM  

LL316: handsome boy model: LL316: They're doing it wrong.  I'm as big a proponent of work from home as there is.  Working from home does NOT mean (other than during a pandemic) that you run a daycare during office hours.  Working means working.

Not to my co-worker who constantly brought her kids into the office. Didn't want to spend money on childcare (she was quite well-paid and her husband had a cushy state job). She would spend the rest of the workday telling everyone that she was still productive, despite it being obvious to everyone that she was spending the vast majority of her time entertaining her "little men," as she called them.

She should have been fired then.  It's real easy to be productive at home.  Far easier than it is to be productive in the office, for me anyway.  But you cannot act as if having your kids around is acceptable unless it's a 1 off situation.


Unfortunately, she got away with it for many years. The boss considered her a single mom (because the husband didn't know jack about taking care of kids) and covered for her to such an extent that I had two people ask me if they were having an affair. AFAIK they were not, and each would be repulsed at the suggestion.

Newish boss had enough of her shenanigans and fired her earlier this year. And nothing of value was lost.
 
2021-06-08 2:50:58 PM  

LL316: handsome boy model: LL316: They're doing it wrong.  I'm as big a proponent of work from home as there is.  Working from home does NOT mean (other than during a pandemic) that you run a daycare during office hours.  Working means working.

Not to my co-worker who constantly brought her kids into the office. Didn't want to spend money on childcare (she was quite well-paid and her husband had a cushy state job). She would spend the rest of the workday telling everyone that she was still productive, despite it being obvious to everyone that she was spending the vast majority of her time entertaining her "little men," as she called them.

She should have been fired then.  It's real easy to be productive at home.  Far easier than it is to be productive in the office, for me anyway.  But you cannot act as if having your kids around is acceptable unless it's a 1 off situation.


Part of the work from home understanding for us was to get things done whenever necessary. If you need to spend 8:00-2:30 monitoring your kid's Zoom based schooling then so be it, just get things done on your own hours. Team meetings would be an obvious exception so having kids in the background was kind of unavoidable when schools were shut down.
 
2021-06-08 4:19:03 PM  
How about: We wouldn't have to listen to your kid for nearly as long if you'd stop blathering using filler words while thinking about what you actually WANT TO SAY, and get to the farking point already.

Land the goddamn plane already, Jesus.
 
2021-06-08 6:28:57 PM  

Somacandra: oldfarthenry: IgG4: y kid played saxophone in 6th grade band this year so I'm getting a kick...

I prefer online meetings with a 80s sax riff honking away in the background.

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[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/DFB4Iw7B​HoU]
R.I.P. Sexy Sax Man


That was one of his songs!
 
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