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2021-06-07 9:04:03 AM  
Crimea river? I have seen that joke a few times before on here.
 
2021-06-07 9:48:48 AM  
EURO STARTS FRIDAY!!!!
 
2021-06-07 10:04:06 AM  

kdawg7736: Crimea river? I have seen that joke a few times before on here.


we stick with what we know
 
2021-06-07 10:18:43 AM  
It's a subtle design. As someone with Filipino parents, this is passive aggression I can get behind.
 
2021-06-07 10:18:49 AM  
My high school colors.  IKEA uses them, too, which is strange for a Dutch corporation.
 
2021-06-07 10:19:34 AM  
Come on guys, Russia stole it fair and square!
 
2021-06-07 10:23:27 AM  

TommyDeuce: Come on guys, Russia stole it fair and square!


Wow. Trump is reduced to posting on fark dot com. Sad.
 
2021-06-07 10:26:37 AM  

BitwiseShift: My high school colors.  IKEA uses them, too, which is strange for a Dutch corporation.


They're from Sweden (hence the colors) but they're based in the Netherlands for tax and legal purposes.
 
2021-06-07 10:31:19 AM  
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when i first saw it i thought they were being extra subtle and put it in braille
 
2021-06-07 10:32:28 AM  
It pissed Putin off so much he had one of his lackeys concern troll how Nazi-eqsue the sentiment is.

Die salty, Comrade.
 
2021-06-07 10:43:07 AM  
Doth protest too much
 
2021-06-07 10:54:25 AM  

Mrtraveler01: BitwiseShift: My high school colors.  IKEA uses them, too, which is strange for a Dutch corporation.

They're from Sweden (hence the colors) but they're based in the Netherlands for tax and legal purposes.


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2021-06-07 11:06:52 AM  
The Russian parliamentary deputy Dmitry Svishchev was quoted by the Russian news agency RIA as saying the shirt design was "a political provocation". He said showing a map of Ukraine "which includes a Russian territory is illegal".

Aww, why don't you go ahead and sit on it and spin, sport?
 
2021-06-07 11:17:47 AM  
clearly John Cena was the designer and he'll be forced to apologize to Russia.

/not to copy and paste myself from the other thread in the sports tab
//except exactly that
///три
 
2021-06-07 11:20:49 AM  
FTA: Relations between Moscow and Kyiv deteriorated sharply after the annexation of Crimeaand the start of a Russian-backed separatist rebellion in eastern Ukraine in 2014.

Isn't that the understatement of the century. *eyeroll*
 
2021-06-07 11:27:52 AM  
Somebody is trying way too hard in this thread.
 
2021-06-07 11:29:30 AM  

BowChickaMaoWow: already two of the anti russia posters here.


Aw, your poor feelings.
 
2021-06-07 11:41:37 AM  

BowChickaMaoWow: austerity101: BowChickaMaoWow: AliceBToklasLives: BowChickaMaoWow: TommyDeuce: BowChickaMaoWow: already two of the anti russia posters here.

I'll keep a running count.

But we should all remember that the Ukrainian majority are literally nazis.

The us is supporting nazis again.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-coh​en-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY

Wow, thank you for keeping count Comrade - Moskva Moscow awaits your report.

/Yes, yes, Russia is true friend of USA

Sure thing bud.

Why do you support nazis?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds​-march-in-ukraine-in-annual-tribute-to​-nazi-collaborator/

Hundreds? By that logic, anyone who supports the United States is a Nazi.

You're not wrong.

But this is why I've included several articles on several events.

As one article might be dismissed. But multiple examples shows a trend.

Literally no one is saying that there aren't Nazis in Ukraine. No one is disputing that fact. What we're doing is rightfully mocking the gigantic leap from that to "so therefore if you support anything about Ukraine at all in any capacity, you love Nazis."

You don't support the right of people in the east to self determine.

Instead you support the western backed nazis.

This isn't a difficult calculus.


Please point to where I said I "don't support the right of people in the east to self-determine," and then explain what the f*ck that weaselly phrase even means.
 
2021-06-07 11:42:39 AM  

BowChickaMaoWow: austerity101: BowChickaMaoWow: AliceBToklasLives: BowChickaMaoWow: TommyDeuce: BowChickaMaoWow: already two of the anti russia posters here.

I'll keep a running count.

But we should all remember that the Ukrainian majority are literally nazis.

The us is supporting nazis again.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-coh​en-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY

Wow, thank you for keeping count Comrade - Moskva Moscow awaits your report.

/Yes, yes, Russia is true friend of USA

Sure thing bud.

Why do you support nazis?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds​-march-in-ukraine-in-annual-tribute-to​-nazi-collaborator/

Hundreds? By that logic, anyone who supports the United States is a Nazi.

You're not wrong.

But this is why I've included several articles on several events.

As one article might be dismissed. But multiple examples shows a trend.

Literally no one is saying that there aren't Nazis in Ukraine. No one is disputing that fact. What we're doing is rightfully mocking the gigantic leap from that to "so therefore if you support anything about Ukraine at all in any capacity, you love Nazis."

You don't support the right of people in the east to self determine.

Instead you support the western backed nazis.

This isn't a difficult calculus.


Stick to "Whataboutism" Ivan.
 
2021-06-07 11:42:48 AM  

austerity101: Please point to where I said I "don't support the right of people in the east to self-determine,"


Lol "self-determine".

Being a vassal state of Russia is the opposite of that.
 
2021-06-07 11:46:34 AM  

BigNumber12: The Russian parliamentary deputy Dmitry Svishchev was quoted by the Russian news agency RIA as saying the shirt design was "a political provocation". He said showing a map of Ukraine "which includes a Russian territory is illegal".

Aww, why don't you go ahead and sit on it and spin, sport?


Putting Crimea on a map on a shirt is "a political provocation", however annexing it is not.

Priorities.
 
2021-06-07 11:48:39 AM  

BowChickaMaoWow: And Russia was there to protect them from the western backed fascists in Kiev.


Right..."protect"
 
2021-06-07 11:49:51 AM  

BowChickaMaoWow: austerity101: BowChickaMaoWow: austerity101: BowChickaMaoWow: AliceBToklasLives: BowChickaMaoWow: TommyDeuce: BowChickaMaoWow: already two of the anti russia posters here.

I'll keep a running count.

But we should all remember that the Ukrainian majority are literally nazis.

The us is supporting nazis again.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-coh​en-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY

Wow, thank you for keeping count Comrade - Moskva Moscow awaits your report.

/Yes, yes, Russia is true friend of USA

Sure thing bud.

Why do you support nazis?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds​-march-in-ukraine-in-annual-tribute-to​-nazi-collaborator/

Hundreds? By that logic, anyone who supports the United States is a Nazi.

You're not wrong.

But this is why I've included several articles on several events.

As one article might be dismissed. But multiple examples shows a trend.

Literally no one is saying that there aren't Nazis in Ukraine. No one is disputing that fact. What we're doing is rightfully mocking the gigantic leap from that to "so therefore if you support anything about Ukraine at all in any capacity, you love Nazis."

You don't support the right of people in the east to self determine.

Instead you support the western backed nazis.

This isn't a difficult calculus.

Please point to where I said I "don't support the right of people in the east to self-determine," and then explain what the f*ck that weaselly phrase even means.

Then why are you attacking me for criticizing the US backing of the nazis in the west?

You're being pedantic.

Maybe state what your actual position is rather than attacking from a point of obfuscation.


I already did:

"Ukraine has a right not be illegally occupied. Ukraine also has a Nazi problem. These can be simultaneously true."
 
2021-06-07 11:54:42 AM  

BowChickaMaoWow: austerity101: BowChickaMaoWow: austerity101: BowChickaMaoWow: AliceBToklasLives: BowChickaMaoWow: TommyDeuce: BowChickaMaoWow: already two of the anti russia posters here.

I'll keep a running count.

But we should all remember that the Ukrainian majority are literally nazis.

The us is supporting nazis again.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-coh​en-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY

Wow, thank you for keeping count Comrade - Moskva Moscow awaits your report.

/Yes, yes, Russia is true friend of USA

Sure thing bud.

Why do you support nazis?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds​-march-in-ukraine-in-annual-tribute-to​-nazi-collaborator/

Hundreds? By that logic, anyone who supports the United States is a Nazi.

You're not wrong.

But this is why I've included several articles on several events.

As one article might be dismissed. But multiple examples shows a trend.

Literally no one is saying that there aren't Nazis in Ukraine. No one is disputing that fact. What we're doing is rightfully mocking the gigantic leap from that to "so therefore if you support anything about Ukraine at all in any capacity, you love Nazis."

You don't support the right of people in the east to self determine.

Instead you support the western backed nazis.

This isn't a difficult calculus.

Please point to where I said I "don't support the right of people in the east to self-determine," and then explain what the f*ck that weaselly phrase even means.

Then why are you attacking me for criticizing the US backing of the nazis in the west?

You're being pedantic.

Maybe state what your actual position is rather than attacking from a point of obfuscation.


What do you know, they do have sealions in Russia.
 
2021-06-07 12:02:44 PM  

BowChickaMaoWow: The people living in Donbas are predominately ethnically Russian and want close relations with Russia.


This doesn't seem to be as true as you make it seem.  Sure, some portion of people living there consider themselves Russian, but it's not as many as you claim.

https://theconversation.com/most-peop​l​e-in-separatist-held-areas-of-donbas-p​refer-reintegration-with-ukraine-new-s​urvey-124849
 
2021-06-07 12:06:29 PM  

Troy McClure: BowChickaMaoWow: The people living in Donbas are predominately ethnically Russian and want close relations with Russia.

This doesn't seem to be as true as you make it seem.  Sure, some portion of people living there consider themselves Russian, but it's not as many as you claim.

https://theconversation.com/most-peopl​e-in-separatist-held-areas-of-donbas-p​refer-reintegration-with-ukraine-new-s​urvey-124849


And you'd think that if it was so popular, they wouldn't have to resort to such dubious tactics.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/v​o​lokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/03/17/the-dubi​ous-crimean-referendum-on-annexation-b​y-russia/
 
2021-06-07 12:17:57 PM  
None of you Farkers better try to accuse me of being a Russian troll ever again, not after this hot nonsense of a thread. :-P
 
2021-06-07 12:19:05 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Troy McClure: BowChickaMaoWow: The people living in Donbas are predominately ethnically Russian and want close relations with Russia.

This doesn't seem to be as true as you make it seem.  Sure, some portion of people living there consider themselves Russian, but it's not as many as you claim.

https://theconversation.com/most-peopl​e-in-separatist-held-areas-of-donbas-p​refer-reintegration-with-ukraine-new-s​urvey-124849

And you'd think that if it was so popular, they wouldn't have to resort to such dubious tactics.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/vo​lokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/03/17/the-dubi​ous-crimean-referendum-on-annexation-b​y-russia/


Russians were also a distinct minority - approx 28% - before Stalin undertook a massive repopulation program that imported huge numbers of ethnic Russians, and removed / exterminated huge numbers of Cossacks and Ukrainians. For precisely the reason our resident shill here is illustrating: "B-b-but the people there totally want to be part of Russia!!1!"
 
2021-06-07 12:34:02 PM  
what's more annoying, the content or the one-sentence paragraphs?
 
2021-06-07 12:53:27 PM  
Suck it, Vlad.  You're getting old and weak and all those mob thugs you surround yourself with all know it.  It's only a matter of time.  Hope you enjoy the taste of polonium.
 
2021-06-07 1:06:14 PM  

kdawg7736: Crimea river? I have seen that joke a few times before on here.


When Russia annexed the Crimea, it turned out that there is no Crimea river.  Or lake, or any body of fresh water.  And the Ukrainians shut down the artificial canal that had been supplying fresh water when the peninsula was part of their country.
 
2021-06-07 1:15:56 PM  

flondrix: kdawg7736: Crimea river? I have seen that joke a few times before on here.

When Russia annexed the Crimea, it turned out that there is no Crimea river.  Or lake, or any body of fresh water.  And the Ukrainians shut down the artificial canal that had been supplying fresh water when the peninsula was part of their country.


Yep. Vladdy's little acquisition is costing Russia dearly. Whether they construct massive desal facilities, or somehow pump water in from the mainland, it's going to be astronomically expensive, both up front and yearly. And that infrastructure will be vulnerable.

Ukraine's redirecting that canal seriously put the screws to Moscow. It's why so many of us were watching their buildup earlier this year very closely - though it ended up being just another opportunity to troll the West, while kicking a rather large can further down the road.
 
2021-06-07 1:38:59 PM  

Ragin' Asian: It's a subtle design. As someone with Filipino parents, this is passive aggression I can get behind.


Subtle enough that I completely missed it. I figured it was the back and came to the comments to get a picture showing the Ukrainian map. Thanks for making me take a second look.
 
2021-06-07 1:39:39 PM  

BigNumber12: flondrix: kdawg7736: Crimea river? I have seen that joke a few times before on here.

When Russia annexed the Crimea, it turned out that there is no Crimea river.  Or lake, or any body of fresh water.  And the Ukrainians shut down the artificial canal that had been supplying fresh water when the peninsula was part of their country.

Yep. Vladdy's little acquisition is costing Russia dearly. Whether they construct massive desal facilities, or somehow pump water in from the mainland, it's going to be astronomically expensive, both up front and yearly. And that infrastructure will be vulnerable.

Ukraine's redirecting that canal seriously put the screws to Moscow. It's why so many of us were watching their buildup earlier this year very closely - though it ended up being just another opportunity to troll the West, while kicking a rather large can further down the road.


Is there any part of the mainland that connects to the Crimea that is controlled by Russia?  Or can any Ukrainian with access to an earthmover have an accidental collision with whatever water pipelines they set up?
 
2021-06-07 1:41:16 PM  

BowChickaMaoWow: PanicAttack: FTA: Relations between Moscow and Kyiv deteriorated sharply after the annexation of Crimeaand the start of a Russian-backed separatist rebellion in eastern Ukraine in 2014.

Isn't that the understatement of the century. *eyeroll*

Probably something to do with the fact that western backed nazis run west Ukraine.

https://www.thenation.com/article/arch​ive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/


Ahh, The Nation where the owner and editor is married to a russiophile who claims that Putin is being unfairly smeared by the West.
 
2021-06-07 1:50:45 PM  

flondrix: BigNumber12: flondrix: kdawg7736: Crimea river? I have seen that joke a few times before on here.

When Russia annexed the Crimea, it turned out that there is no Crimea river.  Or lake, or any body of fresh water.  And the Ukrainians shut down the artificial canal that had been supplying fresh water when the peninsula was part of their country.

Yep. Vladdy's little acquisition is costing Russia dearly. Whether they construct massive desal facilities, or somehow pump water in from the mainland, it's going to be astronomically expensive, both up front and yearly. And that infrastructure will be vulnerable.

Ukraine's redirecting that canal seriously put the screws to Moscow. It's why so many of us were watching their buildup earlier this year very closely - though it ended up being just another opportunity to troll the West, while kicking a rather large can further down the road.

Is there any part of the mainland that connects to the Crimea that is controlled by Russia?  Or can any Ukrainian with access to an earthmover have an accidental collision with whatever water pipelines they set up?


No.  If you look at the map of Crimea, Russia's only real access is a new bridge they built connecting the eastern part of Crimea to Russia.  I guess they could build a water pipe alongside the bridge, but that would be a long pipe.
 
2021-06-07 2:08:43 PM  

flondrix: BigNumber12: flondrix: kdawg7736: Crimea river? I have seen that joke a few times before on here.

When Russia annexed the Crimea, it turned out that there is no Crimea river.  Or lake, or any body of fresh water.  And the Ukrainians shut down the artificial canal that had been supplying fresh water when the peninsula was part of their country.

Yep. Vladdy's little acquisition is costing Russia dearly. Whether they construct massive desal facilities, or somehow pump water in from the mainland, it's going to be astronomically expensive, both up front and yearly. And that infrastructure will be vulnerable.

Ukraine's redirecting that canal seriously put the screws to Moscow. It's why so many of us were watching their buildup earlier this year very closely - though it ended up being just another opportunity to troll the West, while kicking a rather large can further down the road.

Is there any part of the mainland that connects to the Crimea that is controlled by Russia? Or can any Ukrainian with access to an earthmover have an accidental collision with whatever water pipelines they set up?


Only via the Kerch Bridge (which Russia built post-annexation). Vulnerable, as an international waterway passes beneath it. Again, this is why we were watching carefully a couple of months back - Russia has strong incentive to grab the north shore of the Sea of Azov, which would give them a defensible land route over to Crimea (and make Azov a 'Russian Lake'), and could potentially secure the relevant water resources / watershed that Crimea needs.

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2021-06-07 2:43:06 PM  

BowChickaMaoWow: austerity101: BowChickaMaoWow: AliceBToklasLives: BowChickaMaoWow: TommyDeuce: BowChickaMaoWow: already two of the anti russia posters here.

I'll keep a running count.

But we should all remember that the Ukrainian majority are literally nazis.

The us is supporting nazis again.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-coh​en-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY

Wow, thank you for keeping count Comrade - Moskva Moscow awaits your report.

/Yes, yes, Russia is true friend of USA

Sure thing bud.

Why do you support nazis?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds​-march-in-ukraine-in-annual-tribute-to​-nazi-collaborator/

Hundreds? By that logic, anyone who supports the United States is a Nazi.

You're not wrong.

But this is why I've included several articles on several events.

As one article might be dismissed. But multiple examples shows a trend.

Literally no one is saying that there aren't Nazis in Ukraine. No one is disputing that fact. What we're doing is rightfully mocking the gigantic leap from that to "so therefore if you support anything about Ukraine at all in any capacity, you love Nazis."

You don't support the right of people in the east to self determine.

Instead you support the western backed nazis.

This isn't a difficult calculus.


It's interesting to see that Chinese and Russian shills support each other in these threads.
 
2021-06-07 5:56:48 PM  

BigNumber12: flondrix: BigNumber12: flondrix: kdawg7736: Crimea river? I have seen that joke a few times before on here.

When Russia annexed the Crimea, it turned out that there is no Crimea river.  Or lake, or any body of fresh water.  And the Ukrainians shut down the artificial canal that had been supplying fresh water when the peninsula was part of their country.

Yep. Vladdy's little acquisition is costing Russia dearly. Whether they construct massive desal facilities, or somehow pump water in from the mainland, it's going to be astronomically expensive, both up front and yearly. And that infrastructure will be vulnerable.

Ukraine's redirecting that canal seriously put the screws to Moscow. It's why so many of us were watching their buildup earlier this year very closely - though it ended up being just another opportunity to troll the West, while kicking a rather large can further down the road.

Is there any part of the mainland that connects to the Crimea that is controlled by Russia? Or can any Ukrainian with access to an earthmover have an accidental collision with whatever water pipelines they set up?

Only via the Kerch Bridge (which Russia built post-annexation). Vulnerable, as an international waterway passes beneath it. Again, this is why we were watching carefully a couple of months back - Russia has strong incentive to grab the north shore of the Sea of Azov, which would give them a defensible land route over to Crimea (and make Azov a 'Russian Lake'), and could potentially secure the relevant water resources / watershed that Crimea needs.

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Hmmm.  The Sea of Azov itself is...marginal.  Can you get away with "enhanced" municipal water treatment plants to turn it drinkable?

/Agriculture is still farked though.
 
2021-06-07 7:02:20 PM  

BowChickaMaoWow: PanicAttack: FTA: Relations between Moscow and Kyiv deteriorated sharply after the annexation of Crimeaand the start of a Russian-backed separatist rebellion in eastern Ukraine in 2014.

Isn't that the understatement of the century. *eyeroll*

Probably something to do with the fact that western backed nazis run west Ukraine.

https://www.thenation.com/article/arch​ive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/


If nazis actually ran Ukraine, it would be a lot more popular amongst the Putin defenders here.

And Putin clearly does not have a problem with Nazis, given that he funds them all over the world, including right here in the good old USA.
 
2021-06-07 7:25:17 PM  

flondrix: BigNumber12: flondrix: BigNumber12: flondrix: kdawg7736: Crimea river? I have seen that joke a few times before on here.

When Russia annexed the Crimea, it turned out that there is no Crimea river.  Or lake, or any body of fresh water.  And the Ukrainians shut down the artificial canal that had been supplying fresh water when the peninsula was part of their country.

Yep. Vladdy's little acquisition is costing Russia dearly. Whether they construct massive desal facilities, or somehow pump water in from the mainland, it's going to be astronomically expensive, both up front and yearly. And that infrastructure will be vulnerable.

Ukraine's redirecting that canal seriously put the screws to Moscow. It's why so many of us were watching their buildup earlier this year very closely - though it ended up being just another opportunity to troll the West, while kicking a rather large can further down the road.

Is there any part of the mainland that connects to the Crimea that is controlled by Russia? Or can any Ukrainian with access to an earthmover have an accidental collision with whatever water pipelines they set up?

Only via the Kerch Bridge (which Russia built post-annexation). Vulnerable, as an international waterway passes beneath it. Again, this is why we were watching carefully a couple of months back - Russia has strong incentive to grab the north shore of the Sea of Azov, which would give them a defensible land route over to Crimea (and make Azov a 'Russian Lake'), and could potentially secure the relevant water resources / watershed that Crimea needs.

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Hmmm.  The Sea of Azov itself is...marginal.  Can you get away with "enhanced" municipal water treatment plants to turn it drinkable?


I'm not sure at all - I hadn't known that about its salinity. But either way, it's a huge infrastructure problem for them, even if just due to population / scale.

The West really needs to make a bigger deal about the Bridge. It's blatantly illegal, and a very tangible / clear-cut violation of Ukraine's sovereignty (unlike Crimea and Donbas, which have been sufficiently muddied).

That thing needs to be collapsed.
 
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