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2021-06-07 6:12:53 AM  
rock and roll the internet never forgets.
 
2021-06-07 6:19:59 AM  
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Gee, wonder why they hired her in the first place....

\funnily enough, GIS says this comes from an article called "Odds Are, She'll Dominate Sports Gambling on TV"
\\wonder if OAN wants to start a sports network
 
2021-06-07 6:59:55 AM  
Fark people who say bad things.
Fark people who try to take someone's livelihood over something they said 10+ years ago.
 
2021-06-07 7:04:05 AM  
I was expecting this story
 
2021-06-07 7:11:42 AM  

reprobate1125: Fark people who say bad things.
Fark people who try to take someone's livelihood over something they said 10+ years ago.


At some point, we as a culture, have to come to some unspoken understanding where nothing you posted on any form of social media more than 3-5 years ago matters anymore.
 
2021-06-07 7:31:21 AM  
You can fire opinionated broads for saying stupid shiat on the internet now?

Good.
 
2021-06-07 7:32:03 AM  

havocmike: reprobate1125: Fark people who say bad things.
Fark people who try to take someone's livelihood over something they said 10+ years ago.

At some point, we as a culture, have to come to some unspoken understanding where nothing you posted on any form of social media more than 3-5 years ago matters anymore.


Why do we have to do that?
 
2021-06-07 7:39:52 AM  

FriarReb98: Odds Are, She'll Dominate


*snicker snicker snort*
 
2021-06-07 7:42:58 AM  
Always go back and delete all your old posts before your public hiring is made.
 
2021-06-07 7:46:59 AM  

mikaloyd: You can fire opinionated broads for saying stupid shiat on the internet now?

Good.


yes, but in some cases that only enhances their invitation to be hired.
 
2021-06-07 7:48:52 AM  

mikaloyd: havocmike: reprobate1125: Fark people who say bad things.
Fark people who try to take someone's livelihood over something they said 10+ years ago.

At some point, we as a culture, have to come to some unspoken understanding where nothing you posted on any form of social media more than 3-5 years ago matters anymore.

Why do we have to do that?


Because things that weren't offensive 10 years ago are now considered problematic, even though they were commonplace at the time.

Using slurs wasn't ok then and isn't ok now, but after 10 years, you would think that whoever decided to hire this girl would have done a little bit of research into things said in the past. And if she was reprimanded for it at the time of the offense, and has proven that she can at the very least not post offensive shiat, then she shouldn't be fired.
 
2021-06-07 7:58:18 AM  
She also posted COVID denialism crap and conspiracy theories. So no, it wasn't just harmless stuff from 10 years ago.
Then she pulled the 'I'm being attacked for being a woman' bullshiat, and 'I won't apologize for defending myself!'
 
2021-06-07 8:08:17 AM  

Doctoral Candidate Zaius: mikaloyd: havocmike: reprobate1125: Fark people who say bad things.
Fark people who try to take someone's livelihood over something they said 10+ years ago.

At some point, we as a culture, have to come to some unspoken understanding where nothing you posted on any form of social media more than 3-5 years ago matters anymore.

Why do we have to do that?

Because things that weren't offensive 10 years ago are now considered problematic, even though they were commonplace at the time.

Using slurs wasn't ok then and isn't ok now, but after 10 years, you would think that whoever decided to hire this girl would have done a little bit of research into things said in the past. And if she was reprimanded for it at the time of the offense, and has proven that she can at the very least not post offensive shiat, then she shouldn't be fired.


If she'd posted an actual retraction the first time she'd lost a job then that should've been taken into consideration. But she wasn't sorry then either.
 
2021-06-07 8:12:40 AM  

sephjnr: Doctoral Candidate Zaius: mikaloyd: havocmike: reprobate1125: Fark people who say bad things.
Fark people who try to take someone's livelihood over something they said 10+ years ago.

At some point, we as a culture, have to come to some unspoken understanding where nothing you posted on any form of social media more than 3-5 years ago matters anymore.

Why do we have to do that?

Because things that weren't offensive 10 years ago are now considered problematic, even though they were commonplace at the time.

Using slurs wasn't ok then and isn't ok now, but after 10 years, you would think that whoever decided to hire this girl would have done a little bit of research into things said in the past. And if she was reprimanded for it at the time of the offense, and has proven that she can at the very least not post offensive shiat, then she shouldn't be fired.

If she'd posted an actual retraction the first time she'd lost a job then that should've been taken into consideration. But she wasn't sorry then either.


What's more, she could have deleted the old posts when that happened as well.  But she didn't; she left them up to be found again.  So she clearly didn't learn anything.  Never mind the more recent stuff.
 
2021-06-07 8:14:38 AM  
to serve as a sports betting analyst

No big loss, it was a fake job anyway.
 
2021-06-07 8:18:16 AM  
What a stunning victory for gay rights.
 
2021-06-07 8:19:51 AM  

wxboy: sephjnr: Doctoral Candidate Zaius: mikaloyd: havocmike: reprobate1125: Fark people who say bad things.
Fark people who try to take someone's livelihood over something they said 10+ years ago.

At some point, we as a culture, have to come to some unspoken understanding where nothing you posted on any form of social media more than 3-5 years ago matters anymore.

Why do we have to do that?

Because things that weren't offensive 10 years ago are now considered problematic, even though they were commonplace at the time.

Using slurs wasn't ok then and isn't ok now, but after 10 years, you would think that whoever decided to hire this girl would have done a little bit of research into things said in the past. And if she was reprimanded for it at the time of the offense, and has proven that she can at the very least not post offensive shiat, then she shouldn't be fired.

If she'd posted an actual retraction the first time she'd lost a job then that should've been taken into consideration. But she wasn't sorry then either.

What's more, she could have deleted the old posts when that happened as well.  But she didn't; she left them up to be found again.  So she clearly didn't learn anything.  Never mind the more recent stuff.


As I comented in another thread it's a damned-either-way situation. Someone would pull her up for deleting them, noble or not, and someone would still weaponise them if they remained, retracted or not.
 
2021-06-07 8:31:10 AM  
Twitter: not even once
 
2021-06-07 8:47:02 AM  

sephjnr: wxboy: sephjnr: Doctoral Candidate Zaius: mikaloyd: havocmike: reprobate1125: Fark people who say bad things.
Fark people who try to take someone's livelihood over something they said 10+ years ago.

At some point, we as a culture, have to come to some unspoken understanding where nothing you posted on any form of social media more than 3-5 years ago matters anymore.

Why do we have to do that?

Because things that weren't offensive 10 years ago are now considered problematic, even though they were commonplace at the time.

Using slurs wasn't ok then and isn't ok now, but after 10 years, you would think that whoever decided to hire this girl would have done a little bit of research into things said in the past. And if she was reprimanded for it at the time of the offense, and has proven that she can at the very least not post offensive shiat, then she shouldn't be fired.

If she'd posted an actual retraction the first time she'd lost a job then that should've been taken into consideration. But she wasn't sorry then either.

What's more, she could have deleted the old posts when that happened as well.  But she didn't; she left them up to be found again.  So she clearly didn't learn anything.  Never mind the more recent stuff.

As I comented in another thread it's a damned-either-way situation. Someone would pull her up for deleting them, noble or not, and someone would still weaponise them if they remained, retracted or not.


Gee, maybe if the person just didn't share their awful personal feelings out there in the first place, there wouldn't be an issue. This is 100% her own fault from the get go. Hey she is entitled to her opinion. And everyone is entitled to shiat on her terrible opinion. That's life. Yeah, she is screwed either way, but it is a mess of her own making.
 
2021-06-07 8:58:13 AM  
I still find it ridiculous that it was something from nine years before. They actually managed to go that far back with people?
 
2021-06-07 9:12:32 AM  

sephjnr: wxboy: sephjnr: Doctoral Candidate Zaius: mikaloyd: havocmike: reprobate1125: Fark people who say bad things.
Fark people who try to take someone's livelihood over something they said 10+ years ago.

At some point, we as a culture, have to come to some unspoken understanding where nothing you posted on any form of social media more than 3-5 years ago matters anymore.

Why do we have to do that?

Because things that weren't offensive 10 years ago are now considered problematic, even though they were commonplace at the time.

Using slurs wasn't ok then and isn't ok now, but after 10 years, you would think that whoever decided to hire this girl would have done a little bit of research into things said in the past. And if she was reprimanded for it at the time of the offense, and has proven that she can at the very least not post offensive shiat, then she shouldn't be fired.

If she'd posted an actual retraction the first time she'd lost a job then that should've been taken into consideration. But she wasn't sorry then either.

What's more, she could have deleted the old posts when that happened as well.  But she didn't; she left them up to be found again.  So she clearly didn't learn anything.  Never mind the more recent stuff.

As I comented in another thread it's a damned-either-way situation. Someone would pull her up for deleting them, noble or not, and someone would still weaponise them if they remained, retracted or not.


"Not spewing offensive slurs in a public forum" continues to be a good option for millions of decent people every day. No one should care that one more bigot lost her job because of her bigotry. Maybe she can get a job stocking the shelves at a Hobby Lobby.
 
2021-06-07 9:21:42 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: to serve as a sports betting analyst

No big loss, it was a fake job anyway.


Well, he seemed to be able to make a pretty good living from it...
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...until he decided to do the 1980s equivalent of a racist tweet.
 
2021-06-07 9:26:55 AM  
FTA: "I know the words I used are unacceptable and hurtful and I am terribly sorry for this lapse in judgment, but I cannot apologize for standing up to the vicious attacks I, and so many other female personalities, endure from anonymous online trolls.

Yeah I am a homophobe, but how about those online trolls?!

Pay no attention to my asshole-ish actions and attitudes since those tweets too.

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2021-06-07 9:41:34 AM  
Trainspotr:
"Not spewing offensive slurs in a public forum" continues to be a good option for millions of decent people every day. No one should care that one more bigot lost her job because of her bigotry. Maybe she can get a job stocking the shelves at a Hobby Lobby.

Sugarmoobs:
Gee, maybe if the person just didn't share their awful personal feelings out there in the first place, there wouldn't be an issue. This is 100% her own fault from the get go. Hey she is entitled to her opinion. And everyone is entitled to shiat on her terrible opinion. That's life. Yeah, she is screwed either way, but it is a mess of her own making.

The opportunity for repentance must always be on the table regardless of how many people pass it up, and yanking it leads us to dark places. When she's 60 and feels like a complete idiot for these comments I hope we have a better mechanism for contextualising what happened than we do now.
 
2021-06-07 9:49:32 AM  

sephjnr: Trainspotr:
"Not spewing offensive slurs in a public forum" continues to be a good option for millions of decent people every day. No one should care that one more bigot lost her job because of her bigotry. Maybe she can get a job stocking the shelves at a Hobby Lobby.

Sugarmoobs:
Gee, maybe if the person just didn't share their awful personal feelings out there in the first place, there wouldn't be an issue. This is 100% her own fault from the get go. Hey she is entitled to her opinion. And everyone is entitled to shiat on her terrible opinion. That's life. Yeah, she is screwed either way, but it is a mess of her own making.

The opportunity for repentance must always be on the table regardless of how many people pass it up, and yanking it leads us to dark places. When she's 60 and feels like a complete idiot for these comments I hope we have a better mechanism for contextualising what happened than we do now.


You can forgive her because it's your choice to, but that doesn't mean the hiring director at ESPN forgives her.

The thing is, there's no shortage of candidates they can find for this position, so why waste time or money on one that acts like an asshole in public? They're not invested in her repentance.
 
2021-06-07 9:51:02 AM  

reprobate1125: Fark people who say bad things.
Fark people who try to take someone's livelihood over something they said 10+ years ago.


Considering the article references tweets made regarding COVID-19 denialism, I am going to take a wild guess that at least some of her tweets were made in the last year or so.
 
2021-06-07 9:58:25 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: sephjnr: Trainspotr:
"Not spewing offensive slurs in a public forum" continues to be a good option for millions of decent people every day. No one should care that one more bigot lost her job because of her bigotry. Maybe she can get a job stocking the shelves at a Hobby Lobby.

Sugarmoobs:
Gee, maybe if the person just didn't share their awful personal feelings out there in the first place, there wouldn't be an issue. This is 100% her own fault from the get go. Hey she is entitled to her opinion. And everyone is entitled to shiat on her terrible opinion. That's life. Yeah, she is screwed either way, but it is a mess of her own making.

The opportunity for repentance must always be on the table regardless of how many people pass it up, and yanking it leads us to dark places. When she's 60 and feels like a complete idiot for these comments I hope we have a better mechanism for contextualising what happened than we do now.

You can forgive her because it's your choice to, but that doesn't mean the hiring director at ESPN forgives her.

The thing is, there's no shortage of candidates they can find for this position, so why waste time or money on one that acts like an asshole in public? They're not invested in her repentance.


Never said she shouldn't have lost *this* job or the *first one*. If she puts out something more sincere tomorrow then you'd still have a point. If it happens in a year, two, five or twenty then she should get to work at burying this. Let her eat shiat for a while, sure.
 
2021-06-07 10:06:21 AM  

Outshined_One: Considering the article references tweets made regarding COVID-19 denialism, I am going to take a wild guess that at least some of her tweets were made in the last year or so.


Or she's someone with REALLY good prognostication skills.
 
2021-06-07 10:06:41 AM  

sephjnr: The opportunity for repentance must always be on the table regardless of how many people pass it up, and yanking it leads us to dark places. When she's 60 and feels like a complete idiot for these comments I hope we have a better mechanism for contextualising what happened than we do now.


There's a difference between repentance and forgiveness that also needs to be contextualized.  On the one hand, yes, you can be genuinely sorry and do everything you can to make up for whatever bigoted things you said or did.  People can change and it's good when those people acknowledge what they did was wrong and also do whatever they can to make it right.

However, no one is entitled to forgiveness.  Other people can choose not to accept your repentance and their refusal to do so is not wrong.  In fact, attacking those people for refusing to accept your repentance is victim-blaming and only worsens the situation.  You don't get to decide whether you are forgiven or whether you've done enough to absolve your sins.
 
2021-06-07 10:12:48 AM  
Outshined_One:
However, no one is entitled to forgiveness.  Other people can choose not to accept your repentance and their refusal to do so is not wrong.  In fact, attacking those people for refusing to accept your repentance is victim-blaming and only worsens the situation.  You don't get to decide whether you are forgiven or whether you've done enough to absolve your sins.

That's a valid point and I harbour no hatred for people who chose to not accept it. Yet if we destroy all opportunities to even try, what does that say about us? Nothing good.
 
2021-06-07 10:24:11 AM  
Funny to see the Ralph Northam defenders attacking this woman.  Just another day on Fark.
 
2021-06-07 10:29:54 AM  
"But it's from years ago! People change!"

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2021-06-07 10:31:30 AM  
Hers actually sounds like a legitimate apology.
 
2021-06-07 10:34:04 AM  

FLMountainMan: Funny to see the Ralph Northam defenders attacking this woman.  Just another day on Fark.


Yeah I don't get why ESPN didn't fire Ralph Northam.
 
2021-06-07 10:34:52 AM  

LL316: Hers actually sounds like a legitimate apology.


Edit out the bits in blue and indeed it does.

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/also why use pipe characters instead of Is?
//maybe an editorial typo
 
2021-06-07 10:36:02 AM  

sephjnr: LL316: Hers actually sounds like a legitimate apology.

Edit out the bits in blue and indeed it does.

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/also why use pipe characters instead of Is?
//maybe an editorial typo


Right.  So she was already suspended for those tweets...which means ESPN should have known about them, which means they had already accepted that as her penance.
 
2021-06-07 10:45:40 AM  

LL316: sephjnr: LL316: Hers actually sounds like a legitimate apology.

Edit out the bits in blue and indeed it does.

[Fark user image 841x284]

/also why use pipe characters instead of Is?
//maybe an editorial typo

Right.  So she was already suspended for those tweets...which means ESPN should have known about them, which means they had already accepted that as her penance.


She probably should have stopped tweeting COVID denialism and conspiracy stuff, then.
 
2021-06-07 11:19:11 AM  

propasaurus: She also posted COVID denialism crap and conspiracy theories. So no, it wasn't just harmless stuff from 10 years ago.
Then she pulled the 'I'm being attacked for being a woman' bullshiat, and 'I won't apologize for defending myself!'


This.
 
2021-06-07 11:21:01 AM  

FriarReb98: [ozy.com image 449x640]
Gee, wonder why they hired her in the first place....



She will be hired by Fox News in a jiffy.
 
2021-06-07 11:23:59 AM  

FriarReb98: [ozy.com image 449x640]
Gee, wonder why they hired her in the first place....

\funnily enough, GIS says this comes from an article called "Odds Are, She'll Dominate Sports Gambling on TV"
\\wonder if OAN wants to start a sports network


She's an attractive female, therefore she slept her way to the top, amirite?
 
2021-06-07 12:15:37 PM  

sephjnr: Trainspotr:
"Not spewing offensive slurs in a public forum" continues to be a good option for millions of decent people every day. No one should care that one more bigot lost her job because of her bigotry. Maybe she can get a job stocking the shelves at a Hobby Lobby.

Sugarmoobs:
Gee, maybe if the person just didn't share their awful personal feelings out there in the first place, there wouldn't be an issue. This is 100% her own fault from the get go. Hey she is entitled to her opinion. And everyone is entitled to shiat on her terrible opinion. That's life. Yeah, she is screwed either way, but it is a mess of her own making.

The opportunity for repentance must always be on the table regardless of how many people pass it up, and yanking it leads us to dark places. When she's 60 and feels like a complete idiot for these comments I hope we have a better mechanism for contextualising what happened than we do now.


Repentance that is is sincere and has been demonstrated by unprompted actions demonstrating your change of feelings over a period of time? Sure, absolutely.

"Repentance" where you haven't done a single thing that shows you've changed and you issue a weak apology only when it starts costing you money?  Haha, no.
 
2021-06-07 12:23:00 PM  
Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs:
Repentance that is is sincere and has been demonstrated by unprompted actions demonstrating your change of feelings over a period of time? Sure, absolutely.

"Repentance" where you haven't done a single thing that shows you've changed and you issue a weak apology only when it starts costing you money?  Haha, no.


Exactly what my following tweet was getting at.
 
2021-06-07 12:24:17 PM  

sephjnr: Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs:
Repentance that is is sincere and has been demonstrated by unprompted actions demonstrating your change of feelings over a period of time? Sure, absolutely.

"Repentance" where you haven't done a single thing that shows you've changed and you issue a weak apology only when it starts costing you money?  Haha, no.

Exactly what my following tweet was getting at.


And my tweet with the highlighted text. This was obvs insincere with more than a hint of deflection.
 
2021-06-07 12:24:52 PM  
sephjnr:

POSTS, not tweets you cretin.
 
2021-06-07 12:30:24 PM  

havocmike: reprobate1125: Fark people who say bad things.
Fark people who try to take someone's livelihood over something they said 10+ years ago.

At some point, we as a culture, have to come to some unspoken understanding where nothing you posted on any form of social media more than 3-5 years ago matters anymore.


So if it's discovered today that someone famous said "Hitler did nothing wrong" in 2011 and then wrote another three dozen tweets defending that statement, it's all good?
 
2021-06-07 8:46:09 PM  
twitters digging deep to still be relevant now that Trump is gone .
 
2021-06-08 8:27:24 AM  

havocmike: reprobate1125: Fark people who say bad things.
Fark people who try to take someone's livelihood over something they said 10+ years ago.

At some point, we as a culture, have to come to some unspoken understanding where nothing you posted on any form of social media more than 3-5 years ago matters anymore.


Either we need a statute of limitations, or we need to bring back hari kari.
 
2021-06-08 8:28:51 AM  

propasaurus: She also posted COVID denialism crap and conspiracy theories. So no, it wasn't just harmless stuff from 10 years ago.


In that case burn the witch.
 
2021-06-08 8:42:35 AM  

Permanent Solutions For Permanent Problems: havocmike: reprobate1125: Fark people who say bad things.
Fark people who try to take someone's livelihood over something they said 10+ years ago.

At some point, we as a culture, have to come to some unspoken understanding where nothing you posted on any form of social media more than 3-5 years ago matters anymore.

Either we need a statute of limitations, or we need to bring back hari kari.


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