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(Twitter)   Professor of Constitutional Democracy is SHOCKED by distorted American history on the cover of a book. Weird, because his deconstruction is literally what it is like to watch every night of US tv news, as a non-USer. Read to see what we see every day   (twitter.com) divider line
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2021-06-06 10:21:36 PM  
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2021-06-06 10:23:03 PM  
That's a helluva teaser.
 
2021-06-06 10:58:14 PM  
Professor of Constitutional Democracy

Ah, an Ancient Historian.
 
2021-06-06 11:00:23 PM  
Connor Ewing's "idea" about the images has been a fact of life in history classes for years.

I used the 1961 paperback version in Am Hist class in HS in 1964, and Coach Eagle even mentioned the similarity between the 2 images back then.

Coach was a Native American, and he quipped that "Indians" were omitted from both images.
Of course.
 
2021-06-07 6:28:16 AM  
What next, this is fake too?

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2021-06-07 6:32:49 AM  
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2021-06-07 6:37:43 AM  
I barely paid any attention to book covers when I was in school. I was too busy reading them.
 
2021-06-07 6:39:54 AM  

EdwardTellerhands: [Fark user image 369x489]


Finished reading "Acres of Diamonds" yesterday. https://www.gutenberg.org/​files/368/36​8-h/368-h.htm

In it there is a conversation between the author Conwell and Lincoln days before Lincoln is murdered.  Ironically, it was a discussion about Lincoln's plans when he retires as president:

"[Lincoln] said: "It is all right. We are going to win out now. We are getting very near the light. No man ought to wish to be President of the United States, and I will be glad when I get through; then Tad and I are going out to Springfield, Illinois. I have bought a farm out there and I don't care if I again earn only twenty-five cents a day. Tad has a mule team, and we are going to plant onions."

...as was the style at the time.
 
2021-06-07 6:44:25 AM  

Unscratchable_Itch: I barely paid any attention to book covers when I was in school. I was too busy reading them.


Beginning of every year we sat down and put book covers on all our book to prevent damage and ending up buying them at the end of the year.......I'm old
 
2021-06-07 6:56:12 AM  

Hyjamon: EdwardTellerhands: [Fark user image 369x489]

Finished reading "Acres of Diamonds" yesterday. https://www.gutenberg.org/f​iles/368/368-h/368-h.htm

In it there is a conversation between the author Conwell and Lincoln days before Lincoln is murdered.  Ironically, it was a discussion about Lincoln's plans when he retires as president:

"[Lincoln] said: "It is all right. We are going to win out now. We are getting very near the light. No man ought to wish to be President of the United States, and I will be glad when I get through; then Tad and I are going out to Springfield, Illinois. I have bought a farm out there and I don't care if I again earn only twenty-five cents a day. Tad has a mule team, and we are going to plant onions."

...as was the style at the time.


I love that enthusiastic tone all those self-improvers had. "A poor man in Massachusetts who had worked in the nail-works was injured at thirty-eight, and he could earn but little money. He was employed in the office to rub out the marks on the bills made by pencil memorandums, and he used a rubber until his hand grew tired. He then tied a piece of rubber on the end of a stick and worked it like a plane. His little girl came and said, "Why, you have a patent, haven't you?" The father said afterward, "My daughter told me when I took that stick and put the rubber on the end that there was a patent, and that was the first thought of that." He went to Boston and applied for his patent, and every one of you that has a rubber-tipped pencil in your pocket is now paying tribute to the millionaire."
 
2021-06-07 7:11:21 AM  

IamTomJoad: Unscratchable_Itch: I barely paid any attention to book covers when I was in school. I was too busy reading them.

Beginning of every year we sat down and put book covers on all our book to prevent damage and ending up buying them at the end of the year.......I'm old


Omg you've reminded me of a long forgotten school ritual, the wrapping of the books.
 
2021-06-07 7:13:38 AM  
My history books in the 1960's predicted we may one day have an automobile that will replace horses and that coal power will be everywhere and too cheap to bill.  I imagined a coal powered bicycle.
 
2021-06-07 7:18:29 AM  
Never heard of it.
 
2021-06-07 7:42:45 AM  

frankb00th: IamTomJoad: Unscratchable_Itch: I barely paid any attention to book covers when I was in school. I was too busy reading them.

Beginning of every year we sat down and put book covers on all our book to prevent damage and ending up buying them at the end of the year.......I'm old

Omg you've reminded me of a long forgotten school ritual, the wrapping of the books.


And then you changed covers mid-year when the book fair came through.
 
2021-06-07 7:50:16 AM  

IamTomJoad: Unscratchable_Itch: I barely paid any attention to book covers when I was in school. I was too busy reading them.

Beginning of every year we sat down and put book covers on all our book to prevent damage and ending up buying them at the end of the year.......I'm old


We used grocery store paper bags as book covers. They were great for doodling.
 
2021-06-07 8:15:20 AM  

Aussie_As: What next, this is fake too?

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I have the original.

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2021-06-07 8:21:23 AM  

holdmybones: IamTomJoad: Unscratchable_Itch: I barely paid any attention to book covers when I was in school. I was too busy reading them.

Beginning of every year we sat down and put book covers on all our book to prevent damage and ending up buying them at the end of the year.......I'm old

We used grocery store paper bags as book covers. They were great for doodling.


We always had stacks of book covers from the National Guard.  They were blank white on the back, so everyone folded their covers inside out and decorated the books to personalize them.
 
2021-06-07 8:22:15 AM  

EdwardTellerhands: I love that enthusiastic tone all those self-improvers had.


The beginning was interesting and felt a bit gas-lighty. Bonnet story seemed too much. The rest felt like a Tony Robbins-type hype thing; overall enjoyed it.

Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance led me to look up "what is a Chautauqua?". That led me to Acres of Diamonds.
Might try "How the Other Half lives" or "The Children of the Poor".

bit of a reading rabbit hole I am in.
 
2021-06-07 8:33:16 AM  

frankb00th: IamTomJoad: Unscratchable_Itch: I barely paid any attention to book covers when I was in school. I was too busy reading them.

Beginning of every year we sat down and put book covers on all our book to prevent damage and ending up buying them at the end of the year.......I'm old

Omg you've reminded me of a long forgotten school ritual, the wrapping of the books.


Did you have to pick a page to write your name in ultraviolet ink so you could prove it was yours in case of theft?

My page was 158 for all my books.
 
2021-06-07 8:34:56 AM  

holdmybones: IamTomJoad: Unscratchable_Itch: I barely paid any attention to book covers when I was in school. I was too busy reading them.

Beginning of every year we sat down and put book covers on all our book to prevent damage and ending up buying them at the end of the year.......I'm old

We used grocery store paper bags as book covers. They were great for doodling.


I remember that!

/I should probably check my pulse . . .
 
2021-06-07 8:35:17 AM  

Hyjamon: EdwardTellerhands: I love that enthusiastic tone all those self-improvers had.

The beginning was interesting and felt a bit gas-lighty. Bonnet story seemed too much. The rest felt like a Tony Robbins-type hype thing; overall enjoyed it.

Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance led me to look up "what is a Chautauqua?". That led me to Acres of Diamonds.
Might try "How the Other Half lives" or "The Children of the Poor".

bit of a reading rabbit hole I am in.


I'll bet he was a wow on the Chautauqua circuit. Ambrose Bierce did wonderful parodies of that genre.
 
2021-06-07 8:36:30 AM  

holdmybones: IamTomJoad: Unscratchable_Itch: I barely paid any attention to book covers when I was in school. I was too busy reading them.

Beginning of every year we sat down and put book covers on all our book to prevent damage and ending up buying them at the end of the year.......I'm old

We used grocery store paper bags as book covers. They were great for doodling.


Bingo!!!

During her high school years my mother had a part-time job during the holidays wrapping gifts for a big department store in town.

Amazing to watch her use the perfect amount of paper and the minimum amount of tape

Then in her perfect hand writing she labeled each History, Civics, Math....etc.

Then we doodled on them.
 
2021-06-07 8:37:54 AM  
as an art history and American history buff, That was a waste of time.
clickbait
 
2021-06-07 8:45:08 AM  
The thread links to Smart History's discussion of the original painting

https://smarthistory.org/richard-cato​n​-woodville-war-news-from-mexico/
Here is their video

Before the Civil War, the Mexican-American War as prelude
Youtube kRSalPQepTo


It discusses the black guy (and child) who is depicted at the bottom of the social hierarchy but still interested about how the Mexican War will affect slavery.

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At one point the video seems to focus on the whisky jug at his feet hidden behind his hat but doesn't discuss why he is the only one drinking.
 
2021-06-07 8:48:07 AM  
If anyone ever asks you what apophenia is or why it's often hard to convince people that systemic racism is actually a real thing and not a figment of a particularly dickish person's imagination, just show them that thread.

I don't think I've ever felt more sympathy for the kind of oblivious right winger that lets the malicious ones get away with their shiat than I do right now, that Twitter post was the kind of thing Jordan Peterson would cherry pick to prove the left is full of shiat and we should murder all trans people or whatever.
 
2021-06-07 9:10:36 AM  

Jim_Callahan: If anyone ever asks you what apophenia is or why it's often hard to convince people that systemic racism is actually a real thing and not a figment of a particularly dickish person's imagination, just show them that thread.

I don't think I've ever felt more sympathy for the kind of oblivious right winger that lets the malicious ones get away with their shiat than I do right now, that Twitter post was the kind of thing Jordan Peterson would cherry pick to prove the left is full of shiat and we should murder all trans people or whatever.


Stop lying for social-credit.
 
2021-06-07 9:11:10 AM  
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2021-06-07 9:13:25 AM  

VictoryCabal: holdmybones: IamTomJoad: Unscratchable_Itch: I barely paid any attention to book covers when I was in school. I was too busy reading them.

Beginning of every year we sat down and put book covers on all our book to prevent damage and ending up buying them at the end of the year.......I'm old

We used grocery store paper bags as book covers. They were great for doodling.

We always had stacks of book covers from the National Guard.  They were blank white on the back, so everyone folded their covers inside out and decorated the books to personalize them.


I'm pretty sure I remember the Nat Guard covers now that you mention it.
 
2021-06-07 10:07:54 AM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Professor of Constitutional Democracy

Ah, an Ancient Historian.


At this point I'd call him a fantasy literature professor.
 
2021-06-07 10:12:32 AM  
The painting:
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2021-06-07 10:14:02 AM  

EdwardTellerhands: [Fark user image 369x489]


Is it bad I see that and my first thought is that the guy in a gas mask is a Krieg soldier getting excited by all the heretics he is about to get to die in the middle of killing.
 
2021-06-07 10:37:55 AM  

IamTomJoad: Unscratchable_Itch: I barely paid any attention to book covers when I was in school. I was too busy reading them.

Beginning of every year we sat down and put book covers on all our book to prevent damage and ending up buying them at the end of the year.......I'm old


I remember having to bring the books home at the start of the year and have an assault on the brown grocery bags with scissors and tape to cover all of the books you were assigned for the year. Before backpacks existed, so they got hauled back and forth in waterproof oilcloth bags, or thick plastic bags large enough to fold over, since ziplocks didn't exist yet.
 
2021-06-07 11:54:06 AM  
When I was in school, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say.
 
2021-06-07 12:12:51 PM  
Jesus, what a stupid waste of time. Who farking cares about the book cover and what may have been omitted? And don't read so goddamn much into a painting unless the artist specifically mentioned that. Jesus, I've sat on a step before, and my daughter would have naturally stood next to me. Does that somehow make me black?

The long and short of it is that whoever chose the book cover decided they wanted a picture of period-era people reacting to a document. This painting covered what they wanted for the book.
 
2021-06-07 1:40:36 PM  

holdmybones: IamTomJoad: Unscratchable_Itch: I barely paid any attention to book covers when I was in school. I was too busy reading them.

Beginning of every year we sat down and put book covers on all our book to prevent damage and ending up buying them at the end of the year.......I'm old

We used grocery store paper bags as book covers. They were great for doodling.


I had forgotten my brother and I used to do that.

/Live in an apartment so I don't have a lawn, but if I did, I'd order everyone off. . .NOW!
 
2021-06-07 4:16:35 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: My history books in the 1960's predicted we may one day have an automobile that will replace horses and that coal power will be everywhere and too cheap to bill.  I imagined a coal powered bicycle.


Jet packs and robot dogs for me!
 
2021-06-07 8:15:08 PM  

Unscratchable_Itch: I barely paid any attention to book covers when I was in school. I was too busy reading them.


How could you judge the book if you didn't look at the cover ?
 
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