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2021-06-06 12:09:53 AM  
We raised cattle when I was young. We kept half, traded a quarter to the butcher for the processing and the other quarter went to the neighbor for their hay baling and help getting the hay stored. Splitting a carcass works great and the meat is unforgettable.
 
2021-06-06 12:16:25 AM  
I've been buying beef and pork this way for two decades.  The farmer I buy from practices sustainable farming and I know the animals I buy are treated well. The local butchers com dates all kinds of odd cutting requests. For a half steer that I got in December I ended up paying about 3.25 a pound for the finished meat, burger to ribeyes it was all the same price and it tastes terrific.  If you've got the means to buy a years supply at once, I would highly recommend this method.
 
2021-06-06 12:59:35 AM  
People in my town do this as a matter of routine.  It happens all the time.  I used to buy a half steer every so often, when I lived someplace near a cattle ranch and it was a great way to economize.  And if you play your cards right, you can get the offal  that other people don't want, in your order for ree.  Have them slice the liver and portion it.  Don't forget the bones, too.  If they offer the service, get the shanks cut for osso bucco.
 
2021-06-06 1:02:12 AM  
I've known lots of folks that go halves or fourths on a steer or pig. You have one person that has a proper place to keep and raise the critter and the other partners buy feed and other necessities.  It's a pretty common method to share cost, a steer can take up a lot of real estate in a freezer too, and if you have too much by the time you get to the end packages you may find freezer burned meat.
 
2021-06-06 1:11:15 AM  
Some coworkers did the once a few years ago. They are still friendly but that one experience was not one they repeated, AFAIK.
 
2021-06-06 1:20:48 AM  
YES

My wife as a friend from work that raises cows as a hobby.  All grass fed.  No anti biotics.  Some of the best beef you will ever have.  one of the cows "Sir loin" figured out how to headbutt the apple trees in his pasture to get more goodies and fattened up nicely before butchering

Most often you agree to buy a portion, typically a 1/4.  and you split the cost of butchering ($100-200) as well as your portion of the hanging weight at around $1-$2 per pound.  You can request some of the organs (Heart, liver, etc) as well as thickness of the steak cuts and how much you want in Burger

The last 1/4 cow we go "Big guy" had a hanging weight of over 600

ask a butcher that actually does butchering if someone is looking for someone take a 1/4 of a cow.  typically done in the late fall around Nov/December around here.
 
2021-06-06 1:26:51 AM  
No point if the milk is free.
 
2021-06-06 1:54:05 AM  
 
2021-06-06 2:30:05 AM  
Butchers ass
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2021-06-06 2:49:02 AM  

AliceBToklasLives: No point if the milk is free.


Hey, rookie.. did you just call my girlfriend a cow?
 
2021-06-06 3:06:27 AM  
The wait times went up significantly because COVID so if your friend has connections buy in.
 
2021-06-06 4:10:36 AM  
When I was about 10 my parents bought half from my uncle.  Most of his cattle at the time was flown to Japan where it was turned into very expensive steak.  The butcher asked my father and his brother three times if they were sure they wanted most of turned into hamburger.  My uncle had 7 kids and my mother wasn't the best cook.  It was very good hamburger but such a waste of so much great steak.

If you buy a 1/4 you get 1/4 of the t-bones, 1/4 of the hamburger, 1/4 of all the good bits and depending on who else is involved, all the heart, liver and mountain oysters you want.  you can specify the steak/burger ratio but that tends to be for the whole cow, not just the 1/4 but some butchers will work around that and may charge extra.

When did the word beeves fall out of use?  Beef used to be a single cattle going to be butcherd or already butchered and beeves was two or more of them.
 
2021-06-06 4:13:46 AM  
That was how the Deerfield Inn handled our beef. We'd buy a couple of cows from a local cattle rancher, he'd raise them with his herd to get the grass fed quality of his beef, and took care of the butchering and delivered the whole thing when we needed a new cow. We always knew the quality we'd get, he had a guaranteed sale ahead of time, so everyone was happy.
 
2021-06-06 4:34:06 AM  

DON.MAC: When did the word beeves fall out of use?  Beef used to be a single cattle going to be butcherd or already butchered and beeves was two or more of them


"Yeah Beavis... I mean Beeves. Huh huh huh"

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2021-06-06 5:54:10 AM  

puffy999: DON.MAC: When did the word beeves fall out of use?  Beef used to be a single cattle going to be butcherd or already butchered and beeves was two or more of them

"Yeah Beavis... I mean Beeves. Huh huh huh"

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Huh huh huh "raid the beeves"

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2021-06-06 6:32:49 AM  

DON.MAC: When I was about 10 my parents bought half from my uncle.  Most of his cattle at the time was flown to Japan where it was turned into very expensive steak.  The butcher asked my father and his brother three times if they were sure they wanted most of turned into hamburger.  My uncle had 7 kids and my mother wasn't the best cook.  It was very good hamburger but such a waste of so much great steak.

If you buy a 1/4 you get 1/4 of the t-bones, 1/4 of the hamburger, 1/4 of all the good bits and depending on who else is involved, all the heart, liver and mountain oysters you want.  you can specify the steak/burger ratio but that tends to be for the whole cow, not just the 1/4 but some butchers will work around that and may charge extra.

When did the word beeves fall out of use?  Beef used to be a single cattle going to be butcherd or already butchered and beeves was two or more of them.


Before rooves, that's for sure.
 
2021-06-06 6:54:27 AM  
Oh heck yeah, if you've got the freezer space.
 
2021-06-06 7:11:45 AM  

rosekolodny: Oh heck yeah, if you've got the freezer space.


THIS. Also, if you don't already have one, invest in a vacuum sealer and plenty of vacuum seal bags.
 
2021-06-06 7:12:19 AM  

rosekolodny: Oh heck yeah, if you've got the freezer space.


That's the sticking point. The two questions you need to answer here are: Do you want fancy grass fed and whatever else meat? Do you have a place to store 100 pounds of meat? If the answer to both of those questions is yes then it's a good idea.
 
2021-06-06 7:15:19 AM  
small complication - the farmer and/ or butcher need to be certified to slaughter the animal.

I assume it's the same in the US.

All butchers may receive and dress whole carcasses, but very few have the necessary facilities to fulfill regulations as a slaughterhouse.
 
2021-06-06 7:36:03 AM  
All the stuff about the cow aside, anyone else find it a little amusing that "step 5" was essentially just how to conduct a routine financial transaction?
 
2021-06-06 7:38:48 AM  
My cousin is a rancher here in NE Oklahoma. He says lots of folks do this.
 
2021-06-06 7:41:16 AM  
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2021-06-06 7:42:47 AM  
I was randomly paired up with someone else who wanted half a lamb, because the farmer knew me and knew I'd probably go for it.  I did.

Uranus: small complication - the farmer and/ or butcher need to be certified to slaughter the animal.

I assume it's the same in the US.


it is, but I don't know how that's a complication; farmers usually have their favorite slaughter house or whatever's nearby and will bring "your" cow along with all their other cows they are bringing to get butchered.

It just may have been glossed over as a detail in Subby's story.
 
2021-06-06 7:49:17 AM  

Bootleg: AliceBToklasLives: No point if the milk is free.

Hey, rookie.. did you just call my girlfriend a cow?


No, I think he called her a slut.
 
2021-06-06 7:49:31 AM  

mekkab: I was randomly paired up with someone else who wanted half a lamb, because the farmer knew me and knew I'd probably go for it.  I did.

Uranus: small complication - the farmer and/ or butcher need to be certified to slaughter the animal.

I assume it's the same in the US.

it is, but I don't know how that's a complication; farmers usually have their favorite slaughter house or whatever's nearby and will bring "your" cow along with all their other cows they are bringing to get butchered.

It just may have been glossed over as a detail in Subby's story.


oh wait, I clicked the link;  Yeah they glossed over that.

Subby; I've also had ranchers offer halfs and quarters of a cow/beev or pig.  (I'd buy half a berkshire pork and a quarter black angus).  You will need a chest freezer!
 
2021-06-06 7:49:46 AM  
I love everything about your suggestion, Subs. Apart from the thing about sharing the meat.

I suppose I could come around. Get three friends and share one steer, one pig and one lamb. Add a boatload of potatoes and I'm done.

/Salad optional
 
2021-06-06 7:53:07 AM  

KC Dutchman: rosekolodny: Oh heck yeah, if you've got the freezer space.

THIS. Also, if you don't already have one, invest in a vacuum sealer and plenty of vacuum seal bags.


My stuff came pre-vac'd and sealed.
 
2021-06-06 7:56:02 AM  
Yep, this is very common, more environmentally friendly, and better quality meat than buying the single package from god knows where at the grocery store.

Do recommend.
 
2021-06-06 8:07:55 AM  
If you don't do this, you are paying retail.
 
2021-06-06 8:57:08 AM  
Every single time I've tried to be thrifty and filled my freezer with meat, it's led to a week long power failure.  It's like leaving the car window down guarantees rain overnight.  Every single time.
 
2021-06-06 9:00:23 AM  
When I was growing up in Illinois, my family would split a cow with a couple friends.  We had a freezer the size of VW Beetle.
 
2021-06-06 9:01:49 AM  

Ishmel: I've been buying beef and pork this way for two decades.  The farmer I buy from practices sustainable farming and I know the animals I buy are treated well. The local butchers com dates all kinds of odd cutting requests. For a half steer that I got in December I ended up paying about 3.25 a pound for the finished meat, burger to ribeyes it was all the same price and it tastes terrific.  If you've got the means to buy a years supply at once, I would highly recommend this method.


The farmers we buy from do the sustainable thing, and skip the hormones as well. The wife and I get 1/4 cow and 1/2 a pig yearly.
 
2021-06-06 9:11:05 AM  
my butcher does this. I have a half a pig in my deep freeze as I type this, and when I get some room cleared out I plan on buying a quarter of beef. Depending on how many people are involved you might want to discuss with the butcher ahead of time what your yields are expected to be so you can evenly distribute everything. My butcher freezer wraps everything for free and stamps the name of the cut on it. They also vacuum seal for a slight fee per pound. I would ask the butcher if they do this as it makes it easier to get it in to storage when you get home.

/group like cuts in a 2 gallon freezer bag
//makes it easier to find in the freezer and adds an additional layer of protection from freezer burn
 
2021-06-06 9:11:50 AM  

Ker_Thwap: Every single time I've tried to be thrifty and filled my freezer with meat, it's led to a week long power failure.  It's like leaving the car window down guarantees rain overnight.  Every single time.


You need to learn how to short-sell your own life, for maximum hedging!
 
2021-06-06 9:23:11 AM  
Grass fed? Cows will eat anything that fits in their mouths.

"Cow magnets" are a thing.
 
2021-06-06 9:23:38 AM  
Funny enough, I just picked up my beef shares yesterday.
 
2021-06-06 9:26:26 AM  
Human persons, I haven't seen the one downside our family has experienced in this situation: Not all cattle are tasty. Some get slaughtered wrong, or eat the wrong thing at the wrong time, or just are natural sourpusses, or whatever weird deal can effect 'taste' in livestock. It happens. So, if you do get an un-tasty side of beef, now you have 100lbs! Papa Paul specifically won't do this because of what happened one time in the 90s. Go figure...Papa Paul is well known as a f*ckin douche.

Also, I haven't seen 4H mentioned- if you want to do this, and you don't really know the how and/or what or why, try your local County Fair 4H auction. (If this is indeed a thing in your local region.) It will be, hrmmm, ... fun and exciting.1 I wouldn't expect a lot of masks. But, if you have a budget, and/or are thrifty, it can sometimes be a good way to support education and get a side 'o beef, or pork, or some chickens, or a goat or what-have-you, at a decent price.

Auctions can sometimes (well, often times) go the other way from 'thrifty'. Open market principles apply, yah big dummy!


1"What an interesting smell you've discovered!!" Wear closed toed shoes.
 
2021-06-06 9:33:50 AM  

DirtyOM: Grass fed? Cows will eat anything that fits in their mouths.
"Cow magnets" are a thing.


Grass fed, machine killed.  But everyone can pretend this way.  Maybe this cow dropped dead from bliss  10 minutes before it was butchered.
 
2021-06-06 9:36:49 AM  

rosekolodny: Oh heck yeah, if you've got the freezer space.


Some of the butchers around here will actually rent out space in their meat locker so you don't have to pick up all your meat at one time.
 
2021-06-06 9:38:20 AM  
I've thought about this before, but never pulled the trigger.  It's a lot of freezer space to commit to in one shot.
 
2021-06-06 9:45:31 AM  
My family are ranchers from Eastern Montana.  Grew up on a horse etc.  When the kids were born, we moved out in the country near Mt. Spokane.  The area is all about 10 acre plots.  The neighbor kid was about 15, his family was decidedly urban but he was fascinated with all things ag.  He'd come over and chat while I was building race cars.  We talked about all things cattle from calving season to working the markets.

Next thing you know there's a dozen yearlings next door so we worked on all the little stuff.  Pushing cattle on horseback, all the work, and more of the work.  Then some more of the work.

He did well with that first little herd, had most on contract or he'd have made even more off them.  So he expanded, renting pasture space all over.  

It hasn't been that long, but he's done well enough he managed to buy a proper ranch (and my truck when I moved now that I think of it).  He's a damned hard working kid with quite a mind for marketing.  He's made farm to table an efficient thing, supplying many of the local restaurants and producing AMAZEBALLS beef.

No need to have any friends, if you're looking for a quarter, half or even whole beef, he'll hook you up and kindly walk you through the whole process.  Of course, recently he's opened a retail space so if you just want to test his skills, you can just buy a couple of the best steaks of your life.  Angus and Waygu are currently available.  Bison are in the pasture so that should be interesting.

<shameless plug for a young man who's become family> 

If you're in the Spokane area, hit up Lone Crow.

Lone Crow Ranch
 
2021-06-06 9:53:14 AM  

catmandu: rosekolodny: Oh heck yeah, if you've got the freezer space.

Some of the butchers around here will actually rent out space in their meat locker so you don't have to pick up all your meat at one time.


I had a great Uncle who was in the wholesale meat business in the New York City area and he did that for some restaurants at one of his plants out in Long Island City. This was many years ago. It even had an aging room section
 
2021-06-06 9:55:13 AM  
My Dad did this every year when I was a kid.  When I grew up, I wondered why most of the meat I bought from the supermarket (especially the hamburger) smelled so weird when I cooked it and tasted so shiatty when eaten unflavoured.
 
2021-06-06 9:57:52 AM  

clawsoon: My Dad did this every year when I was a kid.  When I grew up, I wondered why most of the meat I bought from the supermarket (especially the hamburger) smelled so weird when I cooked it and tasted so shiatty when eaten unflavoured.


I've become ok with industrial beef.  I just can't quite get past industrial pork.  It's just too different.

I'm back in the city again, but I'm still buying whole pork from a friend on the other side of the state.
 
2021-06-06 10:29:54 AM  
I live across the street from a meat market and you can buy a 1/4 steer from them for $3.99/lb. It's all processed and wrapped but not vacuum packed. They'll freeze it for you if you ask so you don't have to overwork your chest freezer.

CSB- the "C" means "crazy" in this case... Last summer slaughterhouses and processors were screwed up by the covid thing and local hog farms were stuck with pigs they couldn't get processed. This guy I know went in with three friends and bought a whole pig that was ready for slaughter for $50. So they go get the pig and load it into a truck and get it back to the one guy's house. None of the guys had ever killed or dressed anything - not even a chicken or squirrel let alone something larger and vaguely analogous like a deer.

WARNING!!! THE REST OF THE STORY THAT FOLLOWS IS TERRIBLE. YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO READ THE FOLLOWING DETAILS!

Okay? So here we go. I apologize ahead of time for relating this tale of human stupidity.

So, these jackasses have a 250 lb live hog coralled in the back yard of home in a medium sized US city. They have a chain link fence around the yard and the yard has the usual patio furnIture and chairs and a grill and other stuff. The geniuses have watched a bunch of YouTube videos... They've decided to kill the hog with an ax to the head. The hog reacted about how you'd expect when it was hit in the head with a non-fatal blow from an ax. The hog was completely unrestrained and now, bleeding from a head injury and terrified, began to literally run for it's life. How do you catch a blood-slickened hog? it slammed into everything in the yard including the idiots chasing it with an ax- and now a machete. It took another 5 or so minutes and a few poorly placed ax and machete blows to end this poor creature's life . They managed to get the carcass into the garage and hang it from the rafters to butcher it. Then they discovered how much blood , skin, organs, and other offal the slaugher of one hog produces.

I'm disappointed that the hog didn't bite one of them or at least crush one of them against the fence. I wouldn't be bothered if any of these guys were killed in the process.
 
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2021-06-06 10:41:35 AM  
I got an advertising flyer for a farm share. You subscribe to a stream of meat, but you get all the cuts including the mystery meat that even hot dog makers won't touch.
 
2021-06-06 11:12:51 AM  

freakingmoron: I live across the street from a meat market and you can buy a 1/4 steer from them for $3.99/lb. It's all processed and wrapped but not vacuum packed. They'll freeze it for you if you ask so you don't have to overwork your chest freezer.

CSB- the "C" means "crazy" in this case... Last summer slaughterhouses and processors were screwed up by the covid thing and local hog farms were stuck with pigs they couldn't get processed. This guy I know went in with three friends and bought a whole pig that was ready for slaughter for $50. So they go get the pig and load it into a truck and get it back to the one guy's house. None of the guys had ever killed or dressed anything - not even a chicken or squirrel let alone something larger and vaguely analogous like a deer.

WARNING!!! THE REST OF THE STORY THAT FOLLOWS IS TERRIBLE. YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO READ THE FOLLOWING DETAILS!

Okay? So here we go. I apologize ahead of time for relating this tale of human stupidity.

So, these jackasses have a 250 lb live hog coralled in the back yard of home in a medium sized US city. They have a chain link fence around the yard and the yard has the usual patio furnIture and chairs and a grill and other stuff. The geniuses have watched a bunch of YouTube videos... They've decided to kill the hog with an ax to the head. The hog reacted about how you'd expect when it was hit in the head with a non-fatal blow from an ax. The hog was completely unrestrained and now, bleeding from a head injury and terrified, began to literally run for it's life. How do you catch a blood-slickened hog? it slammed into everything in the yard including the idiots chasing it with an ax- and now a machete. It took another 5 or so minutes and a few poorly placed ax and machete blows to end this poor creature's life . They managed to get the carcass into the garage and hang it from the rafters to butcher it. Then they discovered how much blood , skin, organs, and other offal the slaugher of one hog produces.

I'm disappointed that the hog didn't bite one of them or at least crush one of them against the fence. I wouldn't be bothered if any of these guys were killed in the process.


That's some Lord of the Flies stuff right there.
 
2021-06-06 11:19:35 AM  

cryinoutloud: DirtyOM: Grass fed? Cows will eat anything that fits in their mouths.
"Cow magnets" are a thing.

Grass fed, machine killed.  But everyone can pretend this way.  Maybe this cow dropped dead from bliss  10 minutes before it was butchered.


Cattle are "knocked out" with a pneumatic knocker, strung up, a vein in the neck is cut. They then still alive bleed out and death is by heart pumping blood loss.

The more you know. Grandfather was a cattle rancher and butcher. We had a tree limb saw next to the chest freezer to cut off a roast every week.
 
2021-06-06 11:27:33 AM  

freakingmoron: So they go get the pig and load it into a truck and get it back to the one guy's house. None of the guys had ever killed or dressed anything - not even a chicken or squirrel let alone something larger and vaguely analogous like a deer.


I knew a girl who worked at an airport and went to Liberty University and seemed very naive.  Some of the guys decided to take her out deer hunting.  She got two, the rest of them zero.  They hang the deer from a tree on the front yard of one of the guys houses while they are having some beers and one of them hands her a knife and tells her that since she killed it, she has to dress it.  Before they know what is going on, she has split the deer and there are guts on the lawn making most of the guys sick.
 
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