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(CBS Miami)   86-year-old man should not have to beg to work one more year for financial reasons. 86-year-old man should also not kill his boss when told no   (miami.cbslocal.com) divider line
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2021-06-05 5:23:54 PM  
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2021-06-05 5:29:21 PM  
I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford. Not saying killing the guy was right but good grief, they could have at least figured out a better way to term/retire a 31 year employee.
 
2021-06-05 5:31:58 PM  
I have to wonder what he was trying to support. A home that's far too much home for him? Underwater in mortgage in loans?  If you're 86 and still 'having to work' something is horrible wrong and you should just let it go.
 
2021-06-05 5:33:29 PM  

optikeye: I have to wonder what he was trying to support. A home that's far too much home for him? Underwater in mortgage in loans?  If you're 86 and still 'having to work' something is horrible wrong and you should just let it go.


Who should just let what go?
 
2021-06-05 5:41:46 PM  

Cake Hunter: optikeye: I have to wonder what he was trying to support. A home that's far too much home for him? Underwater in mortgage in loans?  If you're 86 and still 'having to work' something is horrible wrong and you should just let it go.

Who should just let what go?


Whatever property, encumbrance, debt etc he's accumulated that would cause him to take another's life because of the horror of not getting a corporate paycheck.
 
2021-06-05 5:47:15 PM  
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2021-06-05 5:53:02 PM  
A scrivener would have handled it better.
 
2021-06-05 6:00:40 PM  

Kat09tails: I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford. Not saying killing the guy was right but good grief, they could have at least figured out a better way to term/retire a 31 year employee.


The dude was working 21 years past retirement age.
 
2021-06-05 6:08:14 PM  

Kat09tails: I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford.


Do try to avoid the American ones though. Always keep enough room on your credit card for one last airplane ticket.
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2021-06-05 6:08:44 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Kat09tails: I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford.

Do try to avoid the American ones though. Always keep enough room on your credit card for one last airplane ticket.
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THIS.
 
2021-06-05 6:15:41 PM  

optikeye: Cake Hunter: optikeye: I have to wonder what he was trying to support. A home that's far too much home for him? Underwater in mortgage in loans?  If you're 86 and still 'having to work' something is horrible wrong and you should just let it go.

Who should just let what go?

Whatever property, encumbrance, debt etc he's accumulated that would cause him to take another's life because of the horror of not getting a corporate paycheck.


Ahh
 
2021-06-05 6:36:49 PM  
That's a hard 86
 
2021-06-05 8:56:26 PM  

plecos: That's a hard 86


Another year and they could have just worked him to death I think.
 
2021-06-05 9:00:24 PM  

Lorelle: Kat09tails: I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford. Not saying killing the guy was right but good grief, they could have at least figured out a better way to term/retire a 31 year employee.

The dude was working 21 years past retirement age.


That's what happens when you get paid under the table.  Sure, you don't pay taxes...but you also don't get social security.

/complete assumption
//probably correct assumption
 
2021-06-05 9:01:46 PM  
It is sad that prison looks better than being on the street. Not everyone has enough pension to live on.
 
2021-06-05 9:01:56 PM  

plecos: That's a hard 86


This is a easy 86.

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2021-06-05 9:03:44 PM  

optikeye: I have to wonder what he was trying to support. A home that's far too much home for him? Underwater in mortgage in loans?  If you're 86 and still 'having to work' something is horrible wrong and you should just let it go.


you never lived and worked in FL.  I'm surprised this sort of thing doesn't happen more often.
 
2021-06-05 9:04:34 PM  

Lorelle: Kat09tails: I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford. Not saying killing the guy was right but good grief, they could have at least figured out a better way to term/retire a 31 year employee.

The dude was working 21 years past retirement age.


Good old murica social net works so well.
 
2021-06-05 9:04:37 PM  

optikeye: Cake Hunter: optikeye: I have to wonder what he was trying to support. A home that's far too much home for him? Underwater in mortgage in loans?  If you're 86 and still 'having to work' something is horrible wrong and you should just let it go.

Who should just let what go?

Whatever property, encumbrance, debt etc he's accumulated that would cause him to take another's life because of the horror of not getting a corporate paycheck.


so you mean become homeless and stop eating.
 
2021-06-05 9:04:46 PM  
This is not the sequel to Nomadland I was expecting.
 
2021-06-05 9:05:16 PM  

flamesfan: It is sad that prison looks better than being on the street. Not everyone has enough pension to live on.


The fact you think most Americans get pensions shows your age.... now companies offer 401ks, which at most match what workers put in.... So in other words all the risk is shifted to employees...
 
2021-06-05 9:06:24 PM  
I assume The Archies was playing in his head during the shooting

Honey
Ah, sugar, sugar
You are my candy boy
And you got me shooting you

When I shot you, boy
I knew how sweet a bullet could be
(I know how sweet a bullet can be)
Like the summer sunshine
Pour your blood over me
 
2021-06-05 9:06:53 PM  

optikeye: I have to wonder what he was trying to support. A home that's far too much home for him? Underwater in mortgage in loans?  If you're 86 and still 'having to work' something is horrible wrong and you should just let it go.


I'm sure he could have survived on the fabulous pension plan from the sugar mill...in Florida.   He may not have earned enough to get a big enough Social Security check.

I am making quite a leap here, but I assume he is Cuban, perhaps a former refugee.   If he only got here right before he started work at the sugar factory, he definitely wouldn't have very much social security.   Again, huge assumption of a possibility on my part.

He may well have a dependent of some kind as well.

Not condoning the murder.
 
2021-06-05 9:07:10 PM  
Cloud 9+ - Hide The Pain (Official Music Video)
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2021-06-05 9:07:12 PM  

Kat09tails: I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford. Not saying killing the guy was right but good grief, they could have at least figured out a better way to term/retire a 31 year employee.


They were more interested in screwing the guy out of his retirement pension.

All he asked for was one. more. year.

And they refused.

/fark that boss. Hope he likes Hell.
 
2021-06-05 9:09:22 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Kat09tails: I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford.

Do try to avoid the American ones though. Always keep enough room on your credit card for one last airplane ticket.
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Noted. I think robbing a bank in Denmark if I make it to 80 has no downside.
 
2021-06-05 9:09:57 PM  

the voice of raisin: optikeye: Cake Hunter: optikeye: I have to wonder what he was trying to support. A home that's far too much home for him? Underwater in mortgage in loans?  If you're 86 and still 'having to work' something is horrible wrong and you should just let it go.

Who should just let what go?

Whatever property, encumbrance, debt etc he's accumulated that would cause him to take another's life because of the horror of not getting a corporate paycheck.

so you mean become homeless and stop eating.


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Be free old man, be free ...
 
2021-06-05 9:10:28 PM  

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Is that THAT meme guy?  That's awesome.
 
2021-06-05 9:12:20 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Kat09tails: I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford.

Do try to avoid the American ones though. Always keep enough room on your credit card for one last airplane ticket.
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2021-06-05 9:12:26 PM  

lolmao500: Lorelle: Kat09tails: I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford. Not saying killing the guy was right but good grief, they could have at least figured out a better way to term/retire a 31 year employee.

The dude was working 21 years past retirement age.

Good old murica social net works so well.


Hold on there. He co-signed on a grandkids collage debt back in the 90's and still needs a few more years yet to pay it off.
 
2021-06-05 9:15:02 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: Kat09tails: I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford. Not saying killing the guy was right but good grief, they could have at least figured out a better way to term/retire a 31 year employee.

They were more interested in screwing the guy out of his retirement pension.

All he asked for was one. more. year.

And they refused.

/fark that boss. Hope he likes Hell.


I doubt he had a pension. You don't start working at a sugar mill when you're 50 because you've got a lot of options.

He probably lived hand to mouth his whole life. Paid cash off the books mostly. He doesn't have Social Security. He's the aged face of the underside of the economy, we don't see more like him because all the others die a lot sooner.
 
2021-06-05 9:16:16 PM  
He 86'd him.
 
2021-06-05 9:17:24 PM  

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Is that THAT meme guy?  That's awesome.


Yes, that would be "Hide-The-Pain Harold" - and the band Cloud 9+ is apparently from his home country of Hungary:

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2021-06-05 9:17:25 PM  

optikeye: I have to wonder what he was trying to support. A home that's far too much home for him? Underwater in mortgage in loans?  If you're 86 and still 'having to work' something is horrible wrong and you should just let it go.


My mother had a part-time job at TJ Maxx and worked with an old woman who was born the same year as Mickey Mouse. She kept on telling people she had a million dollar life insurance policy that she was working to pay and when she died her kids and grandkids were going to be "millionaires."

That was very sad. She should quit working, enjoy retirement if she can, and stop worrying about leaving money to children and grandchildren.
 
2021-06-05 9:20:46 PM  

acouvis: flamesfan: It is sad that prison looks better than being on the street. Not everyone has enough pension to live on.

The fact you think most Americans get pensions shows your age.... now companies offer 401ks, which at most match what workers put in.... So in other words all the risk is shifted to employees...


Try being self employed on the Freedom 95 Plan.. No fancy pensions or savings.
 
2021-06-05 9:21:01 PM  
"Well...now I'm definitely not hiring you back."

Also don't fark with an old person with nothing left to lose.
 
2021-06-05 9:21:40 PM  

KarmicDisaster: plecos: That's a hard 86

Another year and they could have just worked him to death I think.


company probably didn't want to roll the dice anymore  on paying out on the company-sponsored life insurance plan.

they all do it
  
2021-06-05 9:23:07 PM  
Felix Cabrera was jailed without bail

He better not fail.

/Odd Couple bit
//woah dude's name is Felix
 
2021-06-05 9:24:10 PM  

acouvis: flamesfan: It is sad that prison looks better than being on the street. Not everyone has enough pension to live on.

The fact you think most Americans get pensions shows your age.... now companies offer 401ks, which at most match what workers put in.... So in other words all the risk is shifted to employees...


working at a sugar mill cause you can't afford to retire likely means he wasn't making much more than min wage and no benefits
 
2021-06-05 9:26:22 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: Kat09tails: I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford. Not saying killing the guy was right but good grief, they could have at least figured out a better way to term/retire a 31 year employee.

They were more interested in screwing the guy out of his retirement pension.

All he asked for was one. more. year.

And they refused.

/fark that boss. Hope he likes Hell.


pensions haven't existed in the US private sector in 40 years.

everything is 401k investment in the stock market
 
2021-06-05 9:27:24 PM  

acouvis: flamesfan: It is sad that prison looks better than being on the street. Not everyone has enough pension to live on.

The fact you think most Americans get pensions shows your age.... now companies offer 401ks, which at most match what workers put in.... So in other words all the risk is shifted to employees...


Just wait for the effects of new corporate taxes.
 
2021-06-05 9:27:38 PM  
A sad preview of things to come for, I suspect, many Americans.
 
2021-06-05 9:32:46 PM  

ruudbob: lolmao500: Lorelle: Kat09tails: I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford. Not saying killing the guy was right but good grief, they could have at least figured out a better way to term/retire a 31 year employee.

The dude was working 21 years past retirement age.

Good old murica social net works so well.

Hold on there. He co-signed on a grandkids collage debt back in the 90's and still needs a few more years yet to pay it off.


I'm convinced that student loans are un-pay-off-able. I had mine scheduled on a 15 year plan, supposedly, but they're still there. I woke up to the shenanigans. They get transferred around, and the shady assholes move them to interest only. It is necessary to farking stay on top of that bullshiat which should be totally illegal.
 
2021-06-05 9:36:32 PM  

the voice of raisin: AAAAGGGGHHHH: Kat09tails: I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford. Not saying killing the guy was right but good grief, they could have at least figured out a better way to term/retire a 31 year employee.

They were more interested in screwing the guy out of his retirement pension.

All he asked for was one. more. year.

And they refused.

/fark that boss. Hope he likes Hell.

pensions haven't existed in the US private sector in 40 years.

everything is 401k investment in the stock market


They do. But very rare. I have a small Hewlett Packard pension that I will hopefully live long enough to collect. But the 401k type laws basically did allow companies to dump the burden of retirement onto their employees.
 
2021-06-05 9:41:03 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Kat09tails: I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford.

Do try to avoid the American ones though. Always keep enough room on your credit card for one last airplane ticket.
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Those are nicer than the ones that look like college dorms in Sweden.
 
2021-06-05 9:41:17 PM  
No, you're fired!
 
2021-06-05 9:42:58 PM  
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A savage winter
Every patron saint
Hung on the wall, shared the room
With twenty sinners........
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See the glory
Of the royal scam
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2021-06-05 9:45:27 PM  

valenumr: ruudbob: lolmao500: Lorelle: Kat09tails: I always joked with people that prison as a retirement home may be the only option a fair number people can afford. Not saying killing the guy was right but good grief, they could have at least figured out a better way to term/retire a 31 year employee.

The dude was working 21 years past retirement age.

Good old murica social net works so well.

Hold on there. He co-signed on a grandkids collage debt back in the 90's and still needs a few more years yet to pay it off.

I'm convinced that student loans are un-pay-off-able. I had mine scheduled on a 15 year plan, supposedly, but they're still there. I woke up to the shenanigans. They get transferred around, and the shady assholes move them to interest only. It is necessary to farking stay on top of that bullshiat which should be totally illegal.


The only entity that can allow that change is you.
 
2021-06-05 9:45:55 PM  

optikeye: I have to wonder what he was trying to support. A home that's far too much home for him? Underwater in mortgage in loans?  If you're 86 and still 'having to work' something is horrible wrong and you should just let it go.


Rent? Food?
 
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