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(We Are Central PA)   EMT revives O.D. resident of Knights Inn with ye old Narcan, rewarded with the Rabbit Of Caerbannog treatment   (wearecentralpa.com) divider line
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2021-06-05 4:18:05 AM  
No respiration? Place an ET tube. Ventilate. Give D50 Transport to ER.

I never understood why EMS wants to wake up a perfectly tubed patient.
 
2021-06-05 7:02:58 AM  

feckingmorons: No respiration? Place an ET tube. Ventilate. Give D50 Transport to ER.

I never understood why EMS wants to wake up a perfectly tubed patient.


Because if we tubed every idiot we naloxone'd in our jurisdiction, we'd run out of ventilators in around 6 hours.

Outside of polypharmacy (especially amphetamines), severe sepsis, aspiration pneumonia, or Fulminant Non-Cardiogenic Pulmonary Edema, they don't need a tube if you can give them enough to maintain their own airway. They sleep for an hour and get discharged without tying up an ICU bed.

It's also just bad practice to do that, especially when the potential complications are a not insignificant risk.

Also, an EMT/Advanced EMT cannot perform RSI/DAI.
 
2021-06-05 8:19:27 AM  
To be fair, it was a Knights Inn. I expect someone gets bitten there every other night. Or are some of them actually nice?
 
2021-06-05 8:21:39 AM  
You already know this is the beginning of the zombie apocalypse.
 
2021-06-05 8:26:39 AM  
Were his arms and legs cut off?
 
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2021-06-05 8:28:03 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: Were his arms and legs cut off?


That's just a flesh wound.
 
2021-06-05 8:29:27 AM  
Somerset. Of course
 
2021-06-05 8:34:04 AM  
He could afford to OD at a hotel.  Better than the bathroom at the Circle K.

Fortunately for my great nephew, he had his kids with him.  And the five year old asked the cashier when was his daddy going to wake up?

Ain't that a cool memory to give a five year old?  Oh, you know he has others.
 
2021-06-05 8:38:14 AM  
If the guy is from Berlin, sounds like he blitzkrieged into that EMT's arm!
 
2021-06-05 8:40:27 AM  
Well, that's what happens when you fail to heed the warnings of Tim

/ That's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered junkie you ever set eyes on!
//I warned you, but did you listen to me? Oh, no, you knew it all, didn't you? Oh, it's just a harmless little junkie, isn't it? Well, it's always the same. I always tell them--
 
2021-06-05 8:43:54 AM  

technoblogical: To be fair, it was a Knights Inn. Or are some of them actually nice?


By 12th century standards they're all pretty nice.
 
2021-06-05 9:05:48 AM  
Most optometrists are nicer than this
 
2021-06-05 9:06:56 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: He could afford to OD at a hotel.  Better than the bathroom at the Circle K.

Fortunately for my great nephew, he had his kids with him.  And the five year old asked the cashier when was his daddy going to wake up?

Ain't that a cool memory to give a five year old?  Oh, you know he has others.


Man, that's awful. I'm so sorry.
 
2021-06-05 9:07:55 AM  

technoblogical: To be fair, it was a Knights Inn. I expect someone gets bitten there every other night. Or are some of them actually nice?


Ni!
 
2021-06-05 9:28:35 AM  
JESUS CHRIST!
 
2021-06-05 9:29:37 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: Were his arms and legs cut off?


Slow down there Rick.  You only need to cut off the limb that got bitten to keep him from becoming a zombie. Not all of them.
 
2021-06-05 9:29:41 AM  
Anyone who OD's should not be revived.  And kick alcoholics and drug users off the government's SSI.  They are the dregs of society.

I've  smoked cannabis for 50 yrs, dabbled in coke and acid, always managed to hold down a decent paying job and worked thru some major setbacks. and i now have a great social security check.  Screw them.
 
2021-06-05 9:30:55 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: He could afford to OD at a hotel.  Better than the bathroom at the Circle K.

Fortunately for my great nephew, he had his kids with him.  And the five year old asked the cashier when was his daddy going to wake up?

Ain't that a cool memory to give a five year old?  Oh, you know he has others.


Better than daddy eating his eyes...
 
2021-06-05 9:34:08 AM  

jackandwater: Anyone who OD's should not be revived.  And kick alcoholics and drug users off the government's SSI.  They are the dregs of society.

I've  smoked cannabis for 50 yrs, dabbled in coke and acid, always managed to hold down a decent paying job and worked thru some major setbacks. and i now have a great social security check.  Screw them.


Only if you can be killed to enact this.

Why should you decide who else lives or dies? I figure if it is important enough to implement, it is important enough for you to give your life for. Small price to pay, wouldn't you say
 
2021-06-05 9:36:36 AM  
No idea why we are intent on reviving every dumba** who is heading for an OD death, just so they can do it again.  What a waste of resources.  And I speak as someone who spent years as an IV drug user and petty thief to pay for my addiction.  Revive somebody once, give them a reality check, but after that tick heir name off the list as DNR.

There are plenty of addicted folks out there, no need to keep a surplus.
 
2021-06-05 9:39:20 AM  
I may be somewhat facetious.  Let me just speak for my SELF then.  If you revive ME once and I blow my chance at a new life, don't bother rescusitating me a again.  I blew it.
 
2021-06-05 9:39:53 AM  
Only the best things happen at a Knights Inn.
 
2021-06-05 9:40:37 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: He could afford to OD at a hotel.  Better than the bathroom at the Circle K.

Fortunately for my great nephew, he had his kids with him.  And the five year old asked the cashier when was his daddy going to wake up?

Ain't that a cool memory to give a five year old?  Oh, you know he has others.


Addiction is an ugly, ugly disease

More mental health and treatment funding is needed. No, more than that. Even more than that
 
2021-06-05 9:41:16 AM  

jackandwater: Anyone who OD's should not be revived.  And kick alcoholics and drug users off the government's SSI.  They are the dregs of society.

I've  smoked cannabis for 50 yrs, dabbled in coke and acid, always managed to hold down a decent paying job and worked thru some major setbacks. and i now have a great social security check.  Screw them.


It's sad that you feel this way. Sad and petty, displaying a complete lack of sympathy
 
2021-06-05 9:43:16 AM  

davynelson: I may be somewhat facetious.  Let me just speak for my SELF then.  If you revive ME once and I blow my chance at a new life, don't bother rescusitating me a again.  I blew it.


After they're revived the first time though, what resources are provided to them? In-patient treatment? Access to suboxone or methadone? Maybe some social services?
 
2021-06-05 9:45:09 AM  
Old, busted: man bites dog. New 'n' hot: whatever this shiat is.
 
2021-06-05 9:47:33 AM  
It's merely a flesh wound.
 
2021-06-05 9:48:11 AM  
Poor EMT is now twice shy.
 
2021-06-05 9:50:08 AM  

pastramithemosterotic: davynelson: I may be somewhat facetious.  Let me just speak for my SELF then.  If you revive ME once and I blow my chance at a new life, don't bother rescusitating me a again.  I blew it.

After they're revived the first time though, what resources are provided to them? In-patient treatment? Access to suboxone or methadone? Maybe some social services?


Here's a thing that I think a lot of well-meaning Farkers don't understand.  Addicts have to *want* to get clean.  They have to detest their addiction and have a firm, fixed resolve never to fall into it again.  Otherwise, it doesn't matter how many social resources you throw at them.  Personalized treatment plans, inpatient rehab, Suboxone, methadone, buprenorphine, social workers, counselling . . . doesn't matter.  If they don't want to get better, they are 100% guaranteed to relapse.

Getting them to *want* to get clean is the hardest part of getting them clean.
 
2021-06-05 9:57:12 AM  
Back in '89, and friend/coworker and I were driving a truck full of DJ sound and lighting equipment from Minneapolis to Daytona Beach for Spring Break when we broke down near Gary, Indiana in the middle of the night. The wrecker towed our truck to the repair shop and said they'd get to work on it in the morning.

We were pretty broke, so we decided to stay at a nearby Knight's Inn. When we walked in, the person at the desk said "Welcome to Indiana and the Knight's Inn," but it sounded, to us, like she said "Welcome to Indiana and the Knife's In."

That was...disconcerting.
 
2021-06-05 9:57:24 AM  

blockhouse: pastramithemosterotic: davynelson: I may be somewhat facetious.  Let me just speak for my SELF then.  If you revive ME once and I blow my chance at a new life, don't bother rescusitating me a again.  I blew it.

After they're revived the first time though, what resources are provided to them? In-patient treatment? Access to suboxone or methadone? Maybe some social services?

Here's a thing that I think a lot of well-meaning Farkers don't understand.  Addicts have to *want* to get clean.  They have to detest their addiction and have a firm, fixed resolve never to fall into it again.  Otherwise, it doesn't matter how many social resources you throw at them.  Personalized treatment plans, inpatient rehab, Suboxone, methadone, buprenorphine, social workers, counselling . . . doesn't matter.  If they don't want to get better, they are 100% guaranteed to relapse.

Getting them to *want* to get clean is the hardest part of getting them clean.


We rag on AA a lot here, but even they understand that part.
 
2021-06-05 10:00:12 AM  

GreenSun: You already know this is the beginning of the zombie apocalypse.


The real zombie apocalypse was the friends we made along the way.
 
2021-06-05 10:01:44 AM  

jtown: Only the best things happen at a Knights Inn.


The one here in Battle Creek is run by the same asshole who ran the (now condemned, and demolished following a suspicious fire that started the night the condemnation order took effect) Econo Lodge here. The Econo Lodge, before it got condemned following court action by the BCPD, was home to most every hard-core drug addict and prostitute in town, and it got visited by the Battle Creek PD 479 times in 365 days, almost always for reports of fights, prostitution, or drug use/overdoses, and the Knights Inn here is in the same mold as that Econo Lodge.
 
2021-06-05 10:03:34 AM  

jackandwater: Anyone who OD's should not be revived.  And kick alcoholics and drug users off the government's SSI.  They are the dregs of society.

I've  smoked cannabis for 50 yrs, dabbled in coke and acid, always managed to hold down a decent paying job and worked thru some major setbacks. and i now have a great social security check.  Screw them.


So you've never worked with Bill Cosby.
 
2021-06-05 10:05:30 AM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: Back in '89, and friend/coworker and I were driving a truck full of DJ sound and lighting equipment from Minneapolis to Daytona Beach for Spring Break when we broke down near Gary, Indiana in the middle of the night. The wrecker towed our truck to the repair shop and said they'd get to work on it in the morning.

We were pretty broke, so we decided to stay at a nearby Knight's Inn. When we walked in, the person at the desk said "Welcome to Indiana and the Knight's Inn," but it sounded, to us, like she said "Welcome to Indiana and the Knife's In."

That was...disconcerting.


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2021-06-05 10:08:14 AM  
thou didst not count to three, EMT.
 
2021-06-05 10:08:42 AM  

blockhouse: pastramithemosterotic: davynelson: I may be somewhat facetious.  Let me just speak for my SELF then.  If you revive ME once and I blow my chance at a new life, don't bother rescusitating me a again.  I blew it.

After they're revived the first time though, what resources are provided to them? In-patient treatment? Access to suboxone or methadone? Maybe some social services?

Here's a thing that I think a lot of well-meaning Farkers don't understand.  Addicts have to *want* to get clean.  They have to detest their addiction and have a firm, fixed resolve never to fall into it again.  Otherwise, it doesn't matter how many social resources you throw at them.  Personalized treatment plans, inpatient rehab, Suboxone, methadone, buprenorphine, social workers, counselling . . . doesn't matter.  If they don't want to get better, they are 100% guaranteed to relapse.

Getting them to *want* to get clean is the hardest part of getting them clean.


This is, alas, all too true.
 
2021-06-05 10:14:49 AM  

technoblogical: To be fair, it was a Knights Inn. I expect someone gets bitten there every other night. Or are some of them actually nice?


Stayed there a bunch of times when I was in college, going to weddings and whatever in the midwest.  Actually very nice back in the 80s and 90s; larger rooms, quite clean.
 
2021-06-05 10:19:22 AM  

jackandwater: Anyone who OD's should not be revived.  And kick alcoholics and drug users off the government's SSI.  They are the dregs of society.

I've  smoked cannabis for 50 yrs, dabbled in coke and acid, always managed to hold down a decent paying job and worked thru some major setbacks. and i now have a great social security check.  Screw them.


You know what? I have more to say.

I attended an overdose today. Did CPR until my arms were about to fall off, took a guy from blue in the face to conscious.

Saved his life without a second farking thought. I'm still shaking a couple hours later.

And I would do so again.

For you, I would give a second thought to it before saving you. He has a chance to turn things around. A chance that I gave him. You? You're filled with hate, and are less likely to change than he is. Which deserves a second chance more?

But I would save you, in the end. Because letting someone die without a damn good reason is not the sort of person I am. It's not the sort of person Mr. Rogers would be proud of.
 
2021-06-05 10:23:30 AM  

pastramithemosterotic: jackandwater: Anyone who OD's should not be revived.  And kick alcoholics and drug users off the government's SSI.  They are the dregs of society.

I've  smoked cannabis for 50 yrs, dabbled in coke and acid, always managed to hold down a decent paying job and worked thru some major setbacks. and i now have a great social security check.  Screw them.

It's sad that you feel this way. Sad and petty, displaying a complete lack of sympathy


I have plenty of sympathy for people who deserve it.  If you CHOOSE to fold like a cheap lawn chair and dive head first in to drugs instead of making an effort to deal with your problems it's  no ONE'S fault but your own.

I know a woman who just lays in bed surfing the net and wont even get up to let her dog out to do her business.  And her wastrel friend scrounged money from her room mates for beer everyday but too lazy to get a job.  They both think they are entitled to SSI or SSD, when they are perfectly healthy but just liked to stay bombed all day.  She sponges off her father and he sponges off his poor mother.
 
2021-06-05 10:27:09 AM  
LOOK AT THE BONES!!
 
2021-06-05 10:29:15 AM  
I didn't realize the Knight's Inn still existed.
 
2021-06-05 10:30:18 AM  

aungen: jackandwater: Anyone who OD's should not be revived.  And kick alcoholics and drug users off the government's SSI.  They are the dregs of society.

I've  smoked cannabis for 50 yrs, dabbled in coke and acid, always managed to hold down a decent paying job and worked thru some major setbacks. and i now have a great social security check.  Screw them.

So you've never worked with Bill Cosby.


No, and if I did I would have belted him a few times and never let myself be in a position to be drugged.  Screw the job, I can always find another one.
 
2021-06-05 10:33:57 AM  

jackandwater: Anyone who OD's should not be revived.  And kick alcoholics and drug users off the government's SSI.  They are the dregs of society.

I've  smoked cannabis for 50 yrs, dabbled in coke and acid, always managed to hold down a decent paying job and worked thru some major setbacks. and i now have a great social security check.  Screw them.


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2021-06-05 10:35:35 AM  

Discordulator: jackandwater: Anyone who OD's should not be revived.  And kick alcoholics and drug users off the government's SSI.  They are the dregs of society.

I've  smoked cannabis for 50 yrs, dabbled in coke and acid, always managed to hold down a decent paying job and worked thru some major setbacks. and i now have a great social security check.  Screw them.

You know what? I have more to say.

I attended an overdose today. Did CPR until my arms were about to fall off, took a guy from blue in the face to conscious.

Saved his life without a second farking thought. I'm still shaking a couple hours later.

And I would do so again.

For you, I would give a second thought to it before saving you. He has a chance to turn things around. A chance that I gave him. You? You're filled with hate, and are less likely to change than he is. Which deserves a second chance more?

But I would save you, in the end. Because letting someone die without a damn good reason is not the sort of person I am. It's not the sort of person Mr. Rogers would be proud of.


If I'm dead I'm  dead.  And I won't  OD on anything so you don't  have to worry.

If they are that far gone they aren't  worried about "turning their life around"
 
2021-06-05 10:35:55 AM  

davynelson: Revive somebody once, give them a reality check, but after that tick heir name off the list as DNR.


I get wanting to punish the offender, but are you really going to DNR all their heirs? Seems a bit harsh.
 
2021-06-05 10:37:02 AM  
To be fair, there isn't much to do in somerset.
ODing and doing zombie shiat is on the list of attractions in the brochure.
 
2021-06-05 10:51:44 AM  
I kinda get it, nothing worse than waking up Narcanned and realizing your 'friends' stole all your dope while you were following Catherine Zeta Jones into the white light.
 
2021-06-05 11:05:44 AM  
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I warned you. I warned you, but did you listen? No......oh no.....
 
2021-06-05 11:05:56 AM  

feckingmorons: No respiration? Place an ET tube. Ventilate. Give D50 Transport to ER.

I never understood why EMS wants to wake up a perfectly tubed patient.


Ventilators aren't exactly the safest pieces of equipment to use.  You use them when you don't have a choice, you don't use them when better options exist.

blockhouse: Here's a thing that I think a lot of well-meaning Farkers don't understand. Addicts have to *want* to get clean. They have to detest their addiction and have a firm, fixed resolve never to fall into it again. Otherwise, it doesn't matter how many social resources you throw at them. Personalized treatment plans, inpatient rehab, Suboxone, methadone, buprenorphine, social workers, counselling . . . doesn't matter. If they don't want to get better, they are 100% guaranteed to relapse.

Getting them to *want* to get clean is the hardest part of getting them clean.


This.  My wife sometimes uses acupuncture to help people stop smoking.  She's also refused patients that she doesn't feel have a strong enough desire--she knows she would fail.
 
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