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(Deadline)   From the unasked-for reboot files: Master and Commander prequel   (deadline.com) divider line
    More: Weird, Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World, Patrick O'Brian, Commanderpic, high seas, part of a big book series, Stephen Maturin, 20th Century, Aubrey-Maturin series  
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2021-06-05 8:02:08 AM  
When the choice is recasting the perfect Crowe and Bettany or starting over I suppose the is the lesser of two weevils
 
2021-06-05 8:53:50 AM  
Sure it's a prequel, but the whole Age of Sail era is such a wildly underused setting (probably for budget reasons as much as anything) that it's still a pleasantly off-the-beaten-path choice.
 
2021-06-05 8:55:56 AM  
Since this would be set in the early days of Aubrey, it's likely they would have new talent playing him

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I'll take that bet.
 
2021-06-05 8:59:45 AM  
As shocking as it may seem on the Fark entertainment tab, there are people that have an interest in tv/film that is not scifi or comic books.
 
2021-06-05 8:59:47 AM  

ArkAngel: When the choice is recasting the perfect Crowe and Bettany or starting over I suppose the is the lesser of two weevils


Crowe was perfect. Bettany was too tall and too good looking. That major physical problem aside, he was marvelous.

If we can have 9 star treks with Kirk/Spock, surely there's room for several more A/M movies. At least make it to the Waakzaamheid chase.
 
2021-06-05 9:02:49 AM  
This is wonderful.
 
2021-06-05 9:08:12 AM  
As a huge fan of Patrick O'Brian, the movie, and "sea stories" in general, I'm actually thrilled that we could get a reboot. It'll have a lot to live up to and frankly I don't know if general audiences will care, but I'm definitely on board.

I mean in a perfect world we would have had like five sequels to Far Side of the World but beggars can't be choosers.
 
2021-06-05 9:08:59 AM  
This should have been a series.  There's plenty of source material.
 
2021-06-05 9:10:22 AM  
No.
They should have done it way back when.
 
2021-06-05 9:16:08 AM  

Bslim: No.
They should have done it way back when.



That's a lot to ask of early nineteenth century cinematography.
 
2021-06-05 9:24:02 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Since this would be set in the early days of Aubrey, it's likely they would have new talent playing him

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I'll take that bet.


Boy, as a fellow fat ass that gut took me right out of that film Unhinged.  Every single time he was shot at a side angle he really filled the screen.

Should go back and finish that flick.  Since I'm biatching, the rest of the cast is too young to be playing some of the parts.
 
2021-06-05 9:29:45 AM  
There are 2p books in the Aubrey/Maturing series, including a perfectly fine origin story. Why they decided to start with book 10, I don't know. Maybe they didn't want to end up with a big budget Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins.
 
2021-06-05 9:30:04 AM  

InfoFreako: There are 2p books in the Aubrey/Maturing series, including a perfectly fine origin story. Why they decided to start with book 10, I don't know. Maybe they didn't want to end up with a big budget Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins.


*20
 
2021-06-05 9:36:24 AM  

UberNeuman: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Since this would be set in the early days of Aubrey, it's likely they would have new talent playing him

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I'll take that bet.

Boy, as a fellow fat ass that gut took me right out of that film Unhinged.  Every single time he was shot at a side angle he really filled the screen.

Should go back and finish that flick.  Since I'm biatching, the rest of the cast is too young to be playing some of the parts
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I posted that pic affectionately.

Dude absolutely earned those pounds.
 
2021-06-05 9:46:42 AM  

henryhill: As shocking as it may seem on the Fark entertainment tab, there are people that have an interest in tv/film that is not scifi or comic books.


This is most definitely an asked for addition. The ship has sailed for Russell Crowe to do any further work unless he reprise his role in a future future film as a nearly retired Admiral.

Do it well, stay true to the history and reality of the time until the good story. We will come and watch this movie.
 
2021-06-05 9:48:22 AM  

InfoFreako: There are 2p books in the Aubrey/Maturing series, including a perfectly fine origin story. Why they decided to start with book 10, I don't know. Maybe they didn't want to end up with a big budget Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins.


My understanding of that situation is that that was the part of the book series that lined up best with storytelling and the desired cast of actors at the time.
 
2021-06-05 9:50:07 AM  
I'd be happy if they released the original on 4k with an atmos soundtrack.  The audio on the bluray was incredible, can't imagine an atmos mix.
 
2021-06-05 10:20:25 AM  
Master & Commander: Far Side of the World is an absolutely fantastic film and the reason we never got another one was because it was so expensive to make. It took three major studios and a budget of $150 million to make that film but aside from all the marketing, every single penny spent makes it up onto the screen. The acting from every cast member as well as Peter Weir's direction is superb, and throughout it is visually stunning and the sound design is completely immersive (unsurprisingly, it won Oscars for cinematography and sound editing). Without a doubt one of the best films of the aughts and one of the few action/adventure films that four generations of family can enjoy together without complaints. Damn, I'll probably be watching this tonight now.
 
2021-06-05 10:36:18 AM  
Great news. Tons of quality source material. Huge boots to fill. Add me to the list of fans of the original. It's close to a perfect movie.
 
2021-06-05 11:03:44 AM  
This is great news. I'd love to see what they can do with the early stories.

If you've never read the books do yourself a favor. O'Brian did a fantastic job. The stories don't begin or end in the standard ways so you get more feel of real life. Aubrey doesn't always win in then end and, as competent as he is at sea, he's a complete dolt in his real life on land.

O'Brian was 55 when he started writing the novels and he always wrote his drafts long hand with pen and paper. He died while he was working on the 21st  book. They published what he had written with the original handwritten pages on the right and a typescript on the left. It was one last chance to spend time with characters that you really get invested in. Very satisfying.

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2021-06-05 11:06:16 AM  

InfoFreako: There are 2p books in the Aubrey/Maturing series, including a perfectly fine origin story. Why they decided to start with book 10, I don't know. Maybe they didn't want to end up with a big budget Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins.


Sort of reminds me of C. S.Forester ended up writing Hornblower books that went back to his early midshipman days and then finished up with them as an admiral after starting the series in what chronologically be the middle of his career.

The Hornblower books are amazing as well and were certainly the first real epic seafaring tales. Currently listening to them all again on my drive to work.
 
2021-06-05 11:09:21 AM  

Catlenfell: This should have been a series.  There's plenty of source material.


It's called Horatio Hornblower.
 
2021-06-05 11:35:18 AM  

cocozilla: InfoFreako: There are 2p books in the Aubrey/Maturing series, including a perfectly fine origin story. Why they decided to start with book 10, I don't know. Maybe they didn't want to end up with a big budget Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins.

Sort of reminds me of C. S.Forester ended up writing Hornblower books that went back to his early midshipman days and then finished up with them as an admiral after starting the series in what chronologically be the middle of his career.

The Hornblower books are amazing as well and were certainly the first real epic seafaring tales. Currently listening to them all again on my drive to work.


I've been meaning to read the Hornblower series. Now that I have lots if free time, I'm considering another run through the Aubrey/Maturin* series.

*nit this time, autocorrect.
 
2021-06-05 11:47:25 AM  
The first M&C film is as close to perfect as film gets. I know people who started sailing on tall ships after seeing it - simply a "I must do this thing" impulse.

But a prequel is the logical choice - the books are about an unlikely friendship more than anything. And with an opening sentence like this:

The music-room in the Governor's House at Port Mahon, a tall, handsome, pillared octagon, was filled with the triumphant first movement of Locatelli's C major quartet.

Now tell me that isn't perfectly ready for filming already.
 
2021-06-05 11:49:33 AM  
A whole lot of people have been asking for this, including me, subs.   There are very few good movies about the age of sail and the high seas.   M&C was fantastic.   It was critically acclaimed.  It won awards.  People love that movie and the fact that they haven't put together another one is kind of strange.
 
2021-06-05 12:07:19 PM  
FFS, stop doing prequels of movies that depend heavily on a single actor/actress, years after they played the role.

Time marches on. Stop relegating faces & bodies to the uncanny valley, and let us let them enjoy the benefits of aging, gracefully or otherwise.
 
2021-06-05 12:09:35 PM  

FormlessOne: FFS, stop doing prequels of movies that depend heavily on a single actor/actress, years after they played the role.


I don't think anyone suggested Russel Crowe return. Although it would be quite funny if he made an appearance as captain (later admiral) Harte.
 
2021-06-05 12:12:32 PM  

millia: If we can have 9 star treks with Kirk/Spock, surely there's room for several more A/M movies.


I still think M+C is the best Star Trek movie.
 
2021-06-05 12:14:37 PM  

Catlenfell: This should have been a series.  There's plenty of source material.


The thing is, water films had long been a fantastic way to lose a shiatton of money in Hollywood, to the point where no one in their right mind is going to back one.  It's only relatively recently that the cost of the SFX you'd have to rely on have become reachable for a non-money loser or tentpole film.
 
2021-06-05 12:20:18 PM  

Erik_Emune: FormlessOne: FFS, stop doing prequels of movies that depend heavily on a single actor/actress, years after they played the role.

I don't think anyone suggested Russel Crowe return. Although it would be quite funny if he made an appearance as captain (later admiral) Harte.


...then what would be the point? The first M&C succeeded because of Russell Crowe & Paul Bettany. I'd be hard-pressed to suggest a replacement for Crowe that wouldn't result in an unfair comparison.
 
2021-06-05 12:26:31 PM  
I hope Cap'n Jack gets a better cook for this voyage.


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2021-06-05 12:29:02 PM  

FormlessOne: Erik_Emune: FormlessOne: FFS, stop doing prequels of movies that depend heavily on a single actor/actress, years after they played the role.

I don't think anyone suggested Russel Crowe return. Although it would be quite funny if he made an appearance as captain (later admiral) Harte.

...then what would be the point? The first M&C succeeded because of Russell Crowe & Paul Bettany. I'd be hard-pressed to suggest a replacement for Crowe that wouldn't result in an unfair comparison.


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I'd say to at least try.  Finding good talent sometimes requires good searching sessions.  This can be one of them.
 
2021-06-05 12:42:03 PM  

frestcrallen: I still think M+C is the best Star Trek movie.


I subscribe to this school of thought.
 
2021-06-05 12:52:35 PM  
They need to be gender, race and species swapped.

Furries walking the plank.
 
2021-06-05 1:26:33 PM  
I actually disagree with the premise of the Fark. It's not unasked for.  It's from a huge series of books, that people have often been upset didn't lead to a huge group of movies, and Master and Commander was actually a book in the middle of the series.

Now casting or production details could be laughable.  I don't know enough. But making the movie itself?  Probably wanted, and not inherently a bad idea.
 
2021-06-05 1:27:24 PM  

You Are All Sheep: They need to be gender, race and species swapped.

Furries walking the plank.


Edgy. Did you come up with that yourself?
 
2021-06-05 1:43:09 PM  

You Are All Sheep: Furries walking the plank.


oh now you've done it


(also, user name comment)
 
2021-06-05 2:12:01 PM  
I just wanted to note that it will be penned by P. Ness.
 
2021-06-05 2:18:09 PM  

frestcrallen: millia: If we can have 9 star treks with Kirk/Spock, surely there's room for several more A/M movies.

I still think M+C is the best Star Trek movie.


So much for "wagon train in space" (although I suspect the best writers had Navy experiences or inspiration*).

/* The Neutral Zone (or whichever one introduced the Romulans) obviously did, from submarine combat
 
2021-06-05 2:33:51 PM  

frestcrallen: millia: If we can have 9 star treks with Kirk/Spock, surely there's room for several more A/M movies.

I still think M+C is the best Star Trek movie.


That's exactly what I thought after the credits rolled.

"That was an awesome Trek film!"
 
2021-06-05 2:34:55 PM  

Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: I just wanted to note that it will be penned by P. Ness.


I heard he's mightier!
 
2021-06-05 2:57:30 PM  

bughunter: "That was an awesome Trek film!"


It's pretty much all in there:

- action/adventure element
- unity/competence/resourcefulness of the officers and crew during a crisis
- philosophical tangents on the governance of groups
- the power of superstition even among otherwise rational people
- a love letter to science and the value of the scientific method
- mentors and protégés
 
2021-06-05 2:58:45 PM  

Catlenfell: This should have been a series.  There's plenty of source material.


There was, sorta.

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With Jamie Bamber who went on the play Apollo in the Galactica reboot.
 
2021-06-05 3:00:31 PM  
Muppets.
 
2021-06-05 3:05:24 PM  

lurkey: Muppets.


I would totally watch that.

Stoned.
 
2021-06-05 3:19:10 PM  

FormlessOne: Erik_Emune: FormlessOne:
...then what would be the point? The first M&C succeeded because of Russell Crowe & Paul Bettany. I'd be hard-pressed to suggest a replacement for Crowe that wouldn't result in an unfair comparison.


The point would be to tell a great story. The source material is the finest series of historical novels penned in English.
 
2021-06-05 3:20:33 PM  

Ragin' Asian: Catlenfell: This should have been a series.  There's plenty of source material.

It's called Horatio Hornblower.


The depth of the Aubriad is kinda leagues beyond Hornblower. Not saying HH isn't enjoyable, but...
 
2021-06-05 3:25:09 PM  
I demand an origin story on Killick.
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2021-06-05 3:38:34 PM  

henryhill: As shocking as it may seem on the Fark entertainment tab, there are people that have an interest in tv/film that is not scifi or comic books.


Agreed. I love that film.

Subby is probably a Brony
 
2021-06-05 4:27:45 PM  
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Call it...
Master and Commanderer
 
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