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2021-06-04 4:42:19 AM  
Good fences, good neighbors?

I don't super duper adore small children, but there must be some environments where they get to be kids and have fun. A backyard is certainly one such place. Many years ago, I took my kids to Vietnam so they could see what kids in Vietnam are like. We ran smack into the "poolside Germans" at the hotel. We got a ton of scowls but, hey, swimming pool. People swim. If you want to be old and be next to the pool for no particular reason, you can't complain when a kid walks by dripping wet. Being reasonable also means following all the rules and being considerate, but if someone is doing that.... I don't see why older quiet people automatically deserve all the consideration and kids have to just "go somewhere else."

Living where I do, I know what life is like without having children anywhere nearby. No laughing or yelling or small pockets of chaos. Might as well be a hospital. People who can't appreciate children have lost something valuable.
 
2021-06-04 6:36:09 AM  
Don't move into a building where children live.  Or don't move into an apartment with children directly upstairs.
 
2021-06-04 6:53:10 AM  
Duct tape.
 
2021-06-04 6:53:27 AM  
Breed them out?
 
2021-06-04 6:58:55 AM  

offacue: Don't move into a building where children live.  Or don't move into an apartment with children directly upstairs.


Other way round, the people with children moved into the quiet building.

I'm just impressed the parent is actually concerned at all. Most parents seem to assume everyone else loves their children as much as they do. That, or they're too exhausted to give a fark about anything anymore.
 
2021-06-04 7:05:32 AM  

2fardownthread: Good fences, good neighbors?

I don't super duper adore small children, but there must be some environments where they get to be kids and have fun. A backyard is certainly one such place. Many years ago, I took my kids to Vietnam so they could see what kids in Vietnam are like. We ran smack into the "poolside Germans" at the hotel. We got a ton of scowls but, hey, swimming pool. People swim. If you want to be old and be next to the pool for no particular reason, you can't complain when a kid walks by dripping wet. Being reasonable also means following all the rules and being considerate, but if someone is doing that.... I don't see why older quiet people automatically deserve all the consideration and kids have to just "go somewhere else."

Living where I do, I know what life is like without having children anywhere nearby. No laughing or yelling or small pockets of chaos. Might as well be a hospital. People who can't appreciate children have lost something valuable.


Multifamily housing is a crapshoot.  Sometimes you get lucky and the neighbors aren't noisy, but there's always the chance.  For a family with small children, apartments are misery for everyone else.

As for the pool, my kids are to the age where hanging around near their parents at the pool isn't cool, so it's usually my wife and I sitting by the pool at the club like old people, and hopping in during "adult swim" to cool off.  I swear, every time I open a beer I get side-eye from some church-lady Karen who doesn't like her kids seeing "adult beverages."  I won't scowl at your kids for splashing, playing, being loud, because they're having fun and I like to see happy kids.  Don't scowl at us for drinking beer and wine by the pool, because we're having fun.  If I don't like your kids, I'll sell my membership to someone else and go elsewhere... you have the same option.
 
2021-06-04 7:05:50 AM  

Nidiot: offacue: Don't move into a building where children live.  Or don't move into an apartment with children directly upstairs.

Other way round, the people with children moved into the quiet building.

I'm just impressed the parent is actually concerned at all. Most parents seem to assume everyone else loves their children as much as they do. That, or they're too exhausted to give a fark about anything anymore.


I read it wrong.  Never lived in a building though.  I'd expect some concessions.  Valid point.  I like my music and movies way too loud to ever attempt to live in that sort of situation.
 
2021-06-04 7:07:33 AM  

offacue: Nidiot: offacue: Don't move into a building where children live.  Or don't move into an apartment with children directly upstairs.

Other way round, the people with children moved into the quiet building.

I'm just impressed the parent is actually concerned at all. Most parents seem to assume everyone else loves their children as much as they do. That, or they're too exhausted to give a fark about anything anymore.

I read it wrong.  Never lived in a building though.  I'd expect some concessions.  Valid point.  I like my music and movies way too loud to ever attempt to live in that sort of situation.


Yup, my subwoofer is behind the couch, and rattles the stuff on the shelves across the room.  If my neighbors shared that wall, they would hate me.
 
2021-06-04 7:20:03 AM  
Ball gags?
 
2021-06-04 7:54:15 AM  
Get the kids t-shirts with "Caveat Emptor" on them, and let them run free.
 
2021-06-04 7:55:02 AM  
Your neighbors live in an apartment that is not age restricted. That's the risk they took.  50 years ago when your neighbors were children, there were a lot more children and nobody thought to complain about them.  Your kids should be quiet after 8pm, but other than that, that's life in an apartment. The alcoholic down the hall and the guy upstairs with surround sound are far more disruptive.
 
2021-06-04 7:57:18 AM  
The family next door has, I think, 6 children. They're quite noisy and child-like during the day but here's the thing with young kids.. they go to bed at like 8pm and sleep through anything. My area is much quieter, on average, since they came in simply because they don't have public domestic disputes in the driveway at all hours.
 
2021-06-04 8:20:53 AM  
Walking nightmares??

Are your children also arsenals of doom?
Do they kill conversation when they walk into the room?
Are they three-line whips? The sort of thing they ban?
Walking disasters?
Demolition men?
 
2021-06-04 8:38:40 AM  
It depends on the kind of noisy and the time of the noise
 
2021-06-04 8:44:04 AM  
The Dutch self-righteousness of the letter writer is palpable.

You're not in the Netherlands anymore, sweetheart; people have different expectations of children here.
 
2021-06-04 8:44:27 AM  
I'd trade my next door neighbor and his leaf blower for a family with a passel of kids.
 
2021-06-04 8:53:32 AM  
1) Is it summer?
2) Is it after 9AM?
3) Is it before 9PM?
4) Are they staying off said neighbor's property?

Your neighbor will live, or will learn to suffer in silence before they move.
 
2021-06-04 9:13:09 AM  
If you want peace and quiet, you don't live in a place with neighbors.

I'd rather my daughter not scream like she's being murdered all the time either, but here we are.

/I'd also rather not constantly scream at my daughter because she's screaming like she's being murdered either, but that one's on me.
//I'd also rather my wife not scream at me for screaming at my daughter because she's screaming like she's being murdered.
///There's a lot of noise at our house for only 3 people.
 
2021-06-04 9:21:33 AM  
When did blood-curdling screams become the sound of children playing? One day the girls down the street will be murdered and no one will tell the difference.
 
2021-06-04 11:38:13 AM  

redsquid: When did blood-curdling screams become the sound of children playing? One day the girls down the street will be murdered and no one will tell the difference.


Seriously... I live on the lakeshore and by habit you keep an ear out for anyone needing help.  All the various grandkids and nieces and such make it sound more like someone's drowning instead of just getting splashed by their little brother or whatever.

As there have actually been a couple incidents of boats getting flipped with actual yelling for help, I find I reflexively freeze and listen for a bit.  It's  tough to ignore.
 
2021-06-04 11:56:15 AM  
For $35 a kid I got your problem solved.
 
2021-06-04 1:01:12 PM  
Laugh.
 
2021-06-04 1:05:25 PM  
article: 'a family who just moved into a new building. Not even 24 hours after meeting their downstairs neighbors, they received a potentially passive aggressive note about their kids' noise level.'

'potentially passive aggressive'?   So that's what were going with if the person doesn't actually know what that means?
 
2021-06-04 1:39:02 PM  
Set quiet hours for the kids, and let the neighbors know you did so. If they're aren't satisfied with that, that's on them.
 
2021-06-04 2:24:15 PM  
You're going to need 2 things:

1.) a time machine
2.) some form of contraceptive
 
2021-06-04 4:03:04 PM  

redsquid: When did blood-curdling screams become the sound of children playing? One day the girls down the street will be murdered and no one will tell the difference.


Clearly you've never been around children with siblings.

/no seriously
//I admit, the first few times I fell for it as well
///then I figured out if it was real they'd be in the house bleeding
////granted, we had dogs - Artemis would've killed someone messing with "her" kids
 
2021-06-04 4:25:53 PM  
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