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(Guardian)   People who are most confident about their ability to spot fake news are the most likely to fall victim to misinformation and most of us are overconfident   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2021-05-31 8:18:40 PM  
Thing is, fake liberal news ruffles feathers and makes me post a rant on fark.

Fake conservative news makes rednecks plant bombs and try to hang the vice president.
 
2021-05-31 10:08:54 PM  
Sounds like a fake article.
 
2021-05-31 10:11:25 PM  
Yeah, but keep in mind that conservatives are certain they can spot fake news because it is posted by the lying liberal media at the big TV networks, and newspapers, and not the real stuff from Fox, OAN, Newsmax, or the 700 Club,
 
2021-05-31 10:12:21 PM  
Paging Dr. Dunning and Dr. Kruger.  Please pick up the white courtesy phone.
 
2021-05-31 10:12:39 PM  
FTFA: In the survey, 8,285 Americans were asked to evaluate the accuracy of a series of Facebook headlines

How hard could that be?
 
2021-05-31 10:13:32 PM  
I trust farkers to spot fake news better than the general public.

That is neither a compliment for farkers or the general public.
 
2021-05-31 10:14:08 PM  
"Nine out of 10 participants surveyed indicated they were above average in their ability to discern false and legitimate news headlines. About a fifth of respondents rated themselves 50 or more percentiles higher than their score warranted, the analysis of a nationally representative study of data collected during and after the 2018 US midterm elections found."

Study brought to you by Dunning and Kruger.
 
2021-05-31 10:14:52 PM  
Well, it's in the Guardian; so it must be true.
 
2021-05-31 10:17:01 PM  
If it's on Faux News, I assume it's fake.
 
2021-05-31 10:17:16 PM  
I hate when people are overconfident.
 
2021-05-31 10:17:20 PM  
Sounds like the Dunning Kruger Effect to me.
 
2021-05-31 10:17:24 PM  
Jesus Christ.
🙄
I live by this maxim.
The truth is always in the middle.
Accused of rape? Okay what did you do to her to make her say that about you?
I take all info as partly correct. And then I ask questions and see if it makes sense.
Perfect example OJ Simpson. Okay Marsha OJ is an anger ball. So, why does he look normal the day of the killing? Did they have a fight after that footage? If so why didn't you show us that.
And then add to that Furman taking the 5th .
Truth is always in the middle.
OJ Simpson might have done it but something about the facts doesn't add up. At all.
 
2021-05-31 10:18:12 PM  

Mister Buttons: I trust farkers to spot fake news better than the general public.

That is neither a compliment for farkers or the general public.


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Real. This shiat happens.
 
2021-05-31 10:20:13 PM  

eddie_irvine: Sounds like the Dunning Kruger Effect to me.


What's that? Never-mind; I'll go read half a wikipedia article on it and become an instant expert. I pick these things up pretty quickly.
 
2021-05-31 10:20:51 PM  

KRSESQ: FTFA: In the survey, 8,285 Americans were asked to evaluate the accuracy of a series of Facebook headlines

How hard could that be?


If they're on Facebook they're fake. What don't people understand about this?
 
2021-05-31 10:25:13 PM  
You know what the average person is? Average. Think of an average person. Half of all people are more stupid than that.

-George Carlin, paraphrased.
 
2021-05-31 10:25:20 PM  

stevenvictx: Sounds like a fake article.


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2021-05-31 10:25:51 PM  
TFA is an AI scrape.

/ Best method I've found to suss out veracity is time
// Cracks eventually show up
 
2021-05-31 10:26:02 PM  
I don't know...I am constantly paranoid that I will fall for a story that will end up unsubstantiated or even proven false. Or perpetuate a lie like this. As a result, I will never forward or share news unless multiple sources have confirmed it (aka after everyone knows). I have never even submitted a Fark article.

But I am pretty sure this means that I will. One of those deep fake things probably. I am poor of sight, I have not seen many pixels in my day, it is a deception just waiting to be perpetuated...
 
2021-05-31 10:27:45 PM  

Another Government Employee: TFA is an AI scrape.

/ Best method I've found to suss out veracity is time
// Cracks eventually show up


Here is where things go sideways. Was your comment a bot response to the AI scrape?
 
2021-05-31 10:28:58 PM  

The Devil's Bartender: Real. This shiat happens.


THAT one is fake. You know how I can tell? The cookie dough tubes don't explode. God help you if you drop a tube of breakfast biscuits.
 
2021-05-31 10:30:15 PM  

baron von doodle: Another Government Employee: TFA is an AI scrape.

/ Best method I've found to suss out veracity is time
// Cracks eventually show up

Here is where things go sideways. Was your comment a bot response to the AI scrape?


Bot of a Bot.
 
2021-05-31 10:33:16 PM  

Persnickety Paladin: I don't know...I am constantly paranoid that I will fall for a story that will end up unsubstantiated or even proven false. Or perpetuate a lie like this. As a result, I will never forward or share news unless multiple sources have confirmed it (aka after everyone knows). I have never even submitted a Fark article.

But I am pretty sure this means that I will. One of those deep fake things probably. I am poor of sight, I have not seen many pixels in my day, it is a deception just waiting to be perpetuated...


This is a sign that you are self-monitoring, which the article states this single study found to be one of the behaviors to having a relatively accurate account of your own abilities. So, I'm saying there's a chance you're closer than average at guessing your own score based on this single study.
 
2021-05-31 10:33:27 PM  
Real news tries to answer the questions: Who, what, why, where, when, and how?

The true answers to those questions can be verified by multiple sources.

Real news presents the facts that are currently known, then follows up with corrections and the latest information.

Everything else is either speculation or opinion. Speculation and opinion presented as "news', including roundtable discussions, is pure and utter bullshiat - it only serves to manipulate, misinform, and misdirect.
 
2021-05-31 10:33:33 PM  

baron von doodle: You know what the average person is? Average. Think of an average person. Half of all people are more stupid than that.

-George Carlin, paraphrased.


One of the greats.

It wasn't until I was in the US Navy that I got a real exposure to how stupid people are.  I lived a sheltered life, back then.
 
2021-05-31 10:33:51 PM  
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"REAL NEWS!"                                                 "FAKE NEWS!"
 
2021-05-31 10:34:39 PM  
If there's no link to a reputable source, it's a lie.  If it's text on an image, it's an intentional lie that they don't want you to try to look up and are hoping you're too lazy to type it into google manually.
 
2021-05-31 10:37:12 PM  

winedrinkingman: Yeah, but keep in mind that conservatives are certain they can spot fake news because it is posted by the lying liberal media at the big TV networks, and newspapers, and not the real stuff from Fox, OAN, Newsmax, or the 700 Club,


If it's on CNN.com it's most likely fake
 
2021-05-31 10:38:21 PM  

eddie_irvine: Sounds like the Dunning Kruger Effect to me.


Could be.
But a recent survey suggests that people are over confident when it comes to their ability to spot instances of Dunning Kruger effect.
 
2021-05-31 10:43:41 PM  
Nothing to get hung about
 
2021-05-31 10:47:30 PM  

NilartPax: Persnickety Paladin: I don't know...I am constantly paranoid that I will fall for a story that will end up unsubstantiated or even proven false. Or perpetuate a lie like this. As a result, I will never forward or share news unless multiple sources have confirmed it (aka after everyone knows). I have never even submitted a Fark article.

But I am pretty sure this means that I will. One of those deep fake things probably. I am poor of sight, I have not seen many pixels in my day, it is a deception just waiting to be perpetuated...

This is a sign that you are self-monitoring, which the article states this single study found to be one of the behaviors to having a relatively accurate account of your own abilities. So, I'm saying there's a chance you're closer than average at guessing your own score based on this single study.


No! You are lulling me into complacency! Then the next thing I know  Wham! I am sending FW:fw:fw:FW: haksap cure insomnia, restores hairgrowth and reduce visceral fat by 30%! Joe Biden does not want you to know. Emails.

/Thank you very much for reassuring me. You are very kind.
 
2021-05-31 10:50:26 PM  
Pull the wool over your own eyes.
 
2021-05-31 10:53:25 PM  
Deck, sit them down for a D-K test.
 
2021-05-31 10:56:28 PM  
Is this headline accusing me?

I know what's true and what's not...and there's a whole lotta things I'm not entirely sure about, but I know the difference between truth and lies.  And I know I don't like you.

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2021-05-31 11:03:33 PM  
Fortunately, I've made many stupid mistakes in my life, and had to explain my failures in front of rooms full of intelligent and pitiless people. Keeps me humble.
 
2021-05-31 11:10:32 PM  
People actually track this stuff. The networks have been repeatedly ranked for their . Their fans line up exactly where the liberals claim.
 
2021-05-31 11:16:07 PM  
This might be a little on the nose, but has anybody read the actual study?   The link in TFA is a paywall and the article doesn't provide a citation.
 
2021-05-31 11:18:49 PM  

Unscratchable_Itch: Real news tries to answer the questions: Who, what, why, where, when, and how?

The true answers to those questions can be verified by multiple sources.

Real news presents the facts that are currently known, then follows up with corrections and the latest information.

Everything else is either speculation or opinion. Speculation and opinion presented as "news', including roundtable discussions, is pure and utter bullshiat - it only serves to manipulate, misinform, and misdirect.


The "why" is sometimes problematic, however. Not that I'm disagreeing with you in principle, just that trying to answer "why" (even for science) can be fraught with assumptions, biases, etc, that deviate from strict facts.
 
2021-05-31 11:19:26 PM  

ansius: "Nine out of 10 participants surveyed indicated they were above average in their ability to discern false and legitimate news headlines. About a fifth of respondents rated themselves 50 or more percentiles higher than their score warranted, the analysis of a nationally representative study of data collected during and after the 2018 US midterm elections found."

Study brought to you by Dunning and Kruger.


Dunning and Kruger is the name of my Captain and Tennile cover band.
 
2021-05-31 11:21:45 PM  

Lsherm: The Devil's Bartender: Real. This shiat happens.

THAT one is fake. You know how I can tell? The cookie dough tubes don't explode. God help you if you drop a tube of breakfast biscuits.


Maybe your mama's little oven isn't quite as hot.

/divine
 
2021-05-31 11:23:07 PM  

The Devil's Bartender: Mister Buttons: I trust farkers to spot fake news better than the general public.

That is neither a compliment for farkers or the general public.

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Real. This shiat happens.



I'd call fake if it was one the grands cinnabon tubes unless she stole some KY and had a good 10-15 minutes to hide it.
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/girthy
 
2021-05-31 11:25:41 PM  
Love the number of responses that are "It's crazy how stupid other people are!  If you can't spot fake news at 100% like me,  you shouldn't have an opinion!"
 
2021-05-31 11:26:28 PM  

Boo_Guy: The Devil's Bartender: Mister Buttons: I trust farkers to spot fake news better than the general public.

That is neither a compliment for farkers or the general public.

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Real. This shiat happens.


I'd call fake if it was one the grands cinnabon tubes unless she stole some KY and had a good 10-15 minutes to hide it.
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/girthy


PAIGE NO
 
2021-05-31 11:26:35 PM  

Raoul Eaton: Paging Dr. Dunning and Dr. Kruger.  Please pick up the white courtesy phone.


I was going to say that subby falls right in the middle of the Venn diagram of Dunning and Kruger.  But the red zone is still for loading and unloading only.

/weapons
 
2021-05-31 11:27:01 PM  
I was about to post my own clever take on the article, ready to share my disdain with those who can't sniff out garbage news. So in the spirit of the article, I clicked on the link to the study presented in the article to verify the source material.

Not only is this not a link to the "National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America" mentioned in the article, but the study cannot be found. Where is the data which serves as the source of the article? The page links to an Error-response page from the Digital Object Identifier website (which I have never visited before), and a quick web search of this study resulted in only a copy-paste of The Guardian's article. (Also, I tried linking in this post, but Fark auto-removed the link on account of it being a 404 Not Found result.)

So, do I have a false negative here?

I mean sure, it follows, unsurprisingly, that those less able to discern fake news also regularly visit websites where fake news is spread, and spread that false news themselves. Even still, I wouldn't forward or share this article when the cited study can't be found.
 
2021-05-31 11:38:56 PM  

The Devil's Bartender: Mister Buttons: I trust farkers to spot fake news better than the general public.

That is neither a compliment for farkers or the general public.

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Real. This shiat happens.


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2021-05-31 11:42:14 PM  
Detecting fake news isn't so hard. The key is to look for another source to back it up. If I see a story that exists nowhere else, I'm skeptical even if it's something I want to be true.

If it's someone's blog, definitely take it with a grain of salt. They might be right, but there might be an agenda, too.

Ultimately I get my news from time-honored places like WaPo, AP wire, NPR, BBC, Reuters, et al. I have them all clusterd in a bookmarks folder.in Chrome.
 
2021-05-31 11:43:12 PM  
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The photo of her tells me that the cookie dough is in her yet.
 
2021-05-31 11:44:30 PM  
most adults think they drive very well when they can barely keep the car between the lines.

just like people think they're smart and the rest of us know better.

vanity and arrogance is a major downfall of mankind.
 
2021-05-31 11:50:45 PM  

KRSESQ: FTFA: In the survey, 8,285 Americans were asked to evaluate the accuracy of a series of Facebook headlines

How hard could that be?


Sounds like 8,285 Americans should stop getting their "news" from FB.  That would be a start.
 
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