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2021-05-31 2:02:31 PM  
I was going to snark and say "Why was Guy Pearce in this show?" but then I read TFA and NPR asked that one too.
 
2021-05-31 3:51:02 PM  
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I grew up in Mays Landing. Can someone explain what's happening here? It's a small town with zero redeeming qualities, why is it mentioned in this show?
 
2021-05-31 3:51:05 PM  
Not what I was picturing.
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A good, old-fashioned "Buddy pic".
 
2021-05-31 3:59:39 PM  
It was excellent. I'm sad its over, almost as sad as I was watching it.
 
2021-05-31 4:02:35 PM  
I like this 'Kate Winslet acts in an excellent HBO miniseries every ten years' thing.
 
2021-05-31 4:08:13 PM  

Rip_Rufus: [Fark user image 425x318]I grew up in Mays Landing. Can someone explain what's happening here? It's a small town with zero redeeming qualities, why is it mentioned in this show?


It was a brilliant first novel 25 years ago by the character played by Guy Pearce, which won a lot of awards and he's failed to live up to since.

It's not really discussed, but is clearly still celebrated still (there's a huge party held in his honour, and there are many groupies).

There's a possible inference that the reason he's guest-lecturing in no-name universities is because he's either reliving the happiness of presumably doing research for the first novel, or researching a new one.

My *hunch* is it's likely the actual writer of Mare of Easttown might have done similar, originally planning a novel, not a gritty HBO drama - the novel is literally a Mare of Easttown show within a show.
 
2021-05-31 4:11:47 PM  

Space Station Wagon: It was excellent. I'm sad its over, almost as sad as I was watching it.


I am amazed how uplifting the ending was.

It's clearly very much inspired by the original UK Broadchurch structure, but managed to end, even though tragedy abounded, on a hopeful note.

Broadchurch ended in absolute misery (I've no idea if that was maintained in the US version).
 
2021-05-31 4:25:42 PM  

Bungles: Space Station Wagon: It was excellent. I'm sad its over, almost as sad as I was watching it.

I am amazed how uplifting the ending was.

It's clearly very much inspired by the original UK Broadchurch structure, but managed to end, even though tragedy abounded, on a hopeful note.

Broadchurch ended in absolute misery (I've no idea if that was maintained in the US version).


I completely agree with this.

I really thought for how things ended for so many characters, it was going to end in even more misery. It was nice to see a fairly positive ending.

It's definitely one of those shows where I'm bummed that it's already over, but also glad it's over because I don't think there was really anything left to tell. Just a well done series all around.
 
2021-05-31 4:31:27 PM  
Elon Musk did it.
 
2021-05-31 4:49:30 PM  
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2021-05-31 4:52:52 PM  

teto85: [Fark user image 496x410]


Given it's one of the most critically acclaimed miniseries in years and will almost certainly sweep the awards next year, they probably do...
 
2021-05-31 5:18:39 PM  

Bungles: Space Station Wagon: It was excellent. I'm sad its over, almost as sad as I was watching it.

I am amazed how uplifting the ending was.

It's clearly very much inspired by the original UK Broadchurch structure, but managed to end, even though tragedy abounded, on a hopeful note.

Broadchurch ended in absolute misery (I've no idea if that was maintained in the US version).


That was my feeling through episode 5, that, like Broadchurch, the world would be better off if the entire town was bulldozed. Including the people.

But they ended up pulling off the redemption in the last two episodes and left me feeling they was humanity left I the tragedy.
 
2021-05-31 5:47:39 PM  

floor: Bungles: Space Station Wagon: It was excellent. I'm sad its over, almost as sad as I was watching it.

I am amazed how uplifting the ending was.

It's clearly very much inspired by the original UK Broadchurch structure, but managed to end, even though tragedy abounded, on a hopeful note.

Broadchurch ended in absolute misery (I've no idea if that was maintained in the US version).

That was my feeling through episode 5, that, like Broadchurch, the world would be better off if the entire town was bulldozed. Including the people.

But they ended up pulling off the redemption in the last two episodes and left me feeling they was humanity left I the tragedy.


I found the scene with Dylan taking the envelopes of money for his non-child and Lori's silent face-acting profoundly moving.
 
2021-05-31 5:49:28 PM  
So, why did the boy want the journals burned?
 
2021-05-31 5:49:28 PM  
So, Mr. Caroll tells Mare that his gun went missing and then returned. But, according to Ryan, he took the gun and shot Aaron and then returned it to Mr. Caroll's shed. When did Mr. Caroll ever have time to notice it was missing?
 
2021-05-31 5:49:58 PM  

blk47rs: So, Mr. Caroll tells Mare that his gun went missing and then returned. But, according to Ryan, he took the gun and shot Aaron and then returned it to Mr. Caroll's shed. When did Mr. Caroll ever have time to notice it was missing?


That timeline also didn't make much sense.
 
2021-05-31 5:54:51 PM  

Fano: blk47rs: So, Mr. Caroll tells Mare that his gun went missing and then returned. But, according to Ryan, he took the gun and shot Aaron and then returned it to Mr. Caroll's shed. When did Mr. Caroll ever have time to notice it was missing?

That timeline also didn't make much sense.


It was the night of the prowler in the first episode, so he went to get the gun after he saw it, and the gun was already gone.. The prowler seen was presumably Ryan. So the gun was gone when he went to get it, but he didn't put two-and-two together because he didn't think anyone had access to the shed bar himself and Ryan.

Also, pretty advanced dementia.
 
2021-05-31 5:56:13 PM  

Fano: So, why did the boy want the journals burned?


Because he didn't want him not being DJs father becoming widely known, given his parents seemed like pretty besotted grandparents.
 
2021-05-31 6:17:15 PM  

Doctoral Candidate Zaius: Bungles: Space Station Wagon: It was excellent. I'm sad its over, almost as sad as I was watching it.

I am amazed how uplifting the ending was.

It's clearly very much inspired by the original UK Broadchurch structure, but managed to end, even though tragedy abounded, on a hopeful note.

Broadchurch ended in absolute misery (I've no idea if that was maintained in the US version).

I completely agree with this.

I really thought for how things ended for so many characters, it was going to end in even more misery. It was nice to see a fairly positive ending.

It's definitely one of those shows where I'm bummed that it's already over, but also glad it's over because I don't think there was really anything left to tell. Just a well done series all around.


Yeah, well done, not a bunch of bullshiat like The Undoing
 
2021-05-31 6:27:36 PM  

Bungles: teto85: [Fark user image 496x410]

Given it's one of the most critically acclaimed miniseries in years and will almost certainly sweep the awards next year, they probably do...


More people cared than I had thought, given that the final episode broke HBO Max.
 
2021-05-31 6:42:31 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Bungles: teto85: [Fark user image 496x410]

Given it's one of the most critically acclaimed miniseries in years and will almost certainly sweep the awards next year, they probably do...

More people cared than I had thought, given that the final episode broke HBO Max.



I suspect it's going to be one of those shows that becomes cult years down the line. It's also very, very bingable, and wasn't presented in a binge format. I only discovered it when episode 5 aired, and happily watched them all back to back... it's very, very well paced.
 
2021-05-31 8:06:29 PM  
I thought it was excellent and then we get blessed with more Jean Smart in Hacks,are you kidding me? Hannah in Hacks is the real life daughter of Laraine Newman.
 
2021-05-31 8:15:08 PM  
It was a well done Whodunnit while not really being a whodunnit, imo. It had a few big crimes to perplex us as the characters and backstories develop. And it was that development that constantly shifted suspicions. It was a well crafted small town full of interesting pasts and skeletons in closets. And Winslet really delivered on a tough regional American accent. Not gonna lie, I legitimately thought 6 or 7 different people were "the killer" and kept getting impressed by the clues they dropped to steer you that way.

But by the time you get to the end and all is revealed you realize it's really a huge play/soliloquy on greif and blame and how to forgive yourself all while leading a life. It's impressive the way it tells the outright destruction of some of the lives surrounding one particular incident while balancing the destruction to Mare's own family and her pain about her son. And it intimates that the fallout of said destruction is survivable if you can forgive yourself.

Smart, Nichols and Peters really killed it with some painful performances and the other citizens really nailed the feel of the town.  Dnrtfa, but I'm convinced Pearce is only there as a short-lived decoy suspect when he returns. He dropped some "outsider wisdom" perspective which is fine, but I think his primary role was as a suspect "maybe".

/A+
 
2021-05-31 8:17:27 PM  

The Flexecutioner: It was a well done Whodunnit while not really being a whodunnit, imo. It had a few big crimes to perplex us as the characters and backstories develop. And it was that development that constantly shifted suspicions. It was a well crafted small town full of interesting pasts and skeletons in closets. And Winslet really delivered on a tough regional American accent. Not gonna lie, I legitimately thought 6 or 7 different people were "the killer" and kept getting impressed by the clues they dropped to steer you that way.

But by the time you get to the end and all is revealed you realize it's really a huge play/soliloquy on greif and blame and how to forgive yourself all while leading a life. It's impressive the way it tells the outright destruction of some of the lives surrounding one particular incident while balancing the destruction to Mare's own family and her pain about her son. And it intimates that the fallout of said destruction is survivable if you can forgive yourself.

Smart, Nichols and Peters really killed it with some painful performances and the other citizens really nailed the feel of the town.  Dnrtfa, but I'm convinced Pearce is only there as a short-lived decoy suspect when he returns. He dropped some "outsider wisdom" perspective which is fine, but I think his primary role was as a suspect "maybe".

/A+


Once they nailed down the serial killer, and that there wasn't a mastermind to the serial killer, Pearce was in the clear
 
2021-05-31 8:53:43 PM  

The Flexecutioner: It was a well done Whodunnit while not really being a whodunnit, imo. It had a few big crimes to perplex us as the characters and backstories develop. And it was that development that constantly shifted suspicions. It was a well crafted small town full of interesting pasts and skeletons in closets. And Winslet really delivered on a tough regional American accent. Not gonna lie, I legitimately thought 6 or 7 different people were "the killer" and kept getting impressed by the clues they dropped to steer you that way.

But by the time you get to the end and all is revealed you realize it's really a huge play/soliloquy on greif and blame and how to forgive yourself all while leading a life. It's impressive the way it tells the outright destruction of some of the lives surrounding one particular incident while balancing the destruction to Mare's own family and her pain about her son. And it intimates that the fallout of said destruction is survivable if you can forgive yourself.

Smart, Nichols and Peters really killed it with some painful performances and the other citizens really nailed the feel of the town.  Dnrtfa, but I'm convinced Pearce is only there as a short-lived decoy suspect when he returns. He dropped some "outsider wisdom" perspective which is fine, but I think his primary role was as a suspect "maybe".

/A+



I'm not sure Pearce was ever even a decoy suspect? Maybe people just think that because the biggest name is usually the killer in any random mystery?

He literally had the only iron-clad alibi from episode one apart from Mare - he was drinking with Mare then having sex with Mare across the entire course of the death?
 
2021-05-31 9:27:29 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: I like this 'Kate Winslet acts in an excellent HBO miniseries every ten years' thing.


Mildred Pierce was something I did not expect to enjoy but did. The Bell Song had a lot to do with it as well as Winslet. She always puts in the effort.
 
2021-05-31 9:50:38 PM  

Bungles: The Flexecutioner: It was a well done Whodunnit while not really being a whodunnit, imo. It had a few big crimes to perplex us as the characters and backstories develop. And it was that development that constantly shifted suspicions. It was a well crafted small town full of interesting pasts and skeletons in closets. And Winslet really delivered on a tough regional American accent. Not gonna lie, I legitimately thought 6 or 7 different people were "the killer" and kept getting impressed by the clues they dropped to steer you that way.

But by the time you get to the end and all is revealed you realize it's really a huge play/soliloquy on greif and blame and how to forgive yourself all while leading a life. It's impressive the way it tells the outright destruction of some of the lives surrounding one particular incident while balancing the destruction to Mare's own family and her pain about her son. And it intimates that the fallout of said destruction is survivable if you can forgive yourself.

Smart, Nichols and Peters really killed it with some painful performances and the other citizens really nailed the feel of the town.  Dnrtfa, but I'm convinced Pearce is only there as a short-lived decoy suspect when he returns. He dropped some "outsider wisdom" perspective which is fine, but I think his primary role was as a suspect "maybe".

/A+


I'm not sure Pearce was ever even a decoy suspect? Maybe people just think that because the biggest name is usually the killer in any random mystery?

He literally had the only iron-clad alibi from episode one apart from Mare - he was drinking with Mare then having sex with Mare across the entire course of the death?


Before the Dad confessed I thought Pearce's character, who had a connection to May's Landing, maybe could have killed the girl after she stormed off from the priest's car ( or something like that)?  For whatever as yet untold reason, they could have crossed paths somehow. But then Dad confessed and he was no longer an outside chance.
 
2021-05-31 9:53:58 PM  
Somebody say mare?

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2021-05-31 10:11:00 PM  
so a middle school kid was out on his bike well into the middle of the night (since the fight was at 10:45ish and all the questions they asked Dylan) and his mom never noticed?
 
2021-05-31 10:25:42 PM  

baorao: so a middle school kid was out on his bike well into the middle of the night (since the fight was at 10:45ish and all the questions they asked Dylan) and his mom never noticed?


She (and most others) were drunk at the party. Not unlikely.
 
2021-05-31 10:32:49 PM  

Bungles: baorao: so a middle school kid was out on his bike well into the middle of the night (since the fight was at 10:45ish and all the questions they asked Dylan) and his mom never noticed?

She (and most others) were drunk at the party. Not unlikely.


Yeah I forgot about the party. I'd say it's irresponsible of both parents of a middle schooler and a special needs child to get wasted on the same night, but we are talking about a family that responded to one murder with an attempted murder (Kenny), conspiracy to commit a separate murder (Lori and John) and a side of perjury all the way around.
 
2021-05-31 10:48:28 PM  
baorao:
I'd say it's irresponsible of both parents of a middle schooler and a special needs child to get wasted on the same night,

Welcome to Delco.
 
2021-05-31 11:15:29 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Bungles: teto85: [Fark user image 496x410]

Given it's one of the most critically acclaimed miniseries in years and will almost certainly sweep the awards next year, they probably do...

More people cared than I had thought, given that the final episode broke HBO Max.


To be fair, you can sneeze across the street from their server farm and break HBO Max.
 
2021-05-31 11:42:22 PM  

Fano: So, why did the boy want the journals burned?


He didn't want the real father exposed and lose the kid like he did, his parents wanted to adopt it and he was actually getting attached to DJ.
 
2021-06-01 12:04:18 AM  

UNC_Samurai: AliceBToklasLives: Bungles: teto85: [Fark user image 496x410]

Given it's one of the most critically acclaimed miniseries in years and will almost certainly sweep the awards next year, they probably do...

More people cared than I had thought, given that the final episode broke HBO Max.

To be fair, you can sneeze across the street from their server farm and break HBO Max.


It sure has been wonky lately. It buffers at the start of every episode and then sound gets ahead of video for a few seconds. But no problems yesterday.
 
2021-06-01 8:54:43 AM  
I was wildly underwhelmed. 

Mare should be in prison for trying to frame the mother of her grandchild.

I had a hard time believing the final plot twist, let alone John would be willing to kill his brother over it, as he clearly intended to do at one point.   Or that the brother would be OK with that.

I have no earthly idea why Lori would take in the incestuous child of her husband when it already had a loving family that clearly wanted it.

I don't know why Dylan felt the need to brutalize Jess over the journals, which turned out to be her idea in the first place.  Or why she would want to cover up Erin's affair, or why she needed to involve Dylan to do that.   Or why Dylan and his family would then willingly turn over Erin's baby to the family of her murderer.  

I really didn't like the framing of the Catholic priest, considering the very real problem of pedophilia in the church in the setting.  The PA attorney general stated that there were at least 100,000 cases of child sexual abuse hidden by the church in PA over the last 50 years - and that was just what they could prove.    If you are going to bring up that issue, then you don't sugar coat it.    Having him talk about forgiveness at the end IMO bordered on the obscene in that context.

And I guess Guy Pearce needed the check.   Though having him just be the romantic interest with no connection whatsoever to the rest of the plot isn't a bad way to flip the script on that sexist trope.

Evan Peters and Jean Smart were great, but the story could have used some work.
 
2021-06-01 9:11:27 AM  

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Imagine the sadness of being "that guy."
 
2021-06-01 12:15:37 PM  
I wondered why Lori wasn't also arrested and charged with obstruction of justice and/or lying to the police. She knowingly and willingly lied to Mare to cover up the crime.
 
2021-06-01 1:51:39 PM  

Hawk24: I wondered why Lori wasn't also arrested and charged with obstruction of justice and/or lying to the police. She knowingly and willingly lied to Mare to cover up the crime.


i thought it was Lori after seeing her husband confess and you knew something was off.  i figured he was taking the fall for it because he was such a scum bag.
 
2021-06-01 1:53:47 PM  

Hawk24: I wondered why Lori wasn't also arrested and charged with obstruction of justice and/or lying to the police. She knowingly and willingly lied to Mare to cover up the crime.


I wondered that too. But I suppose it's up to the cops to charge her, and they decided against it.
 
2021-06-01 2:04:52 PM  

demiurgex: I was wildly underwhelmed. 

Mare should be in prison for trying to frame the mother of her grandchild.

I had a hard time believing the final plot twist, let alone John would be willing to kill his brother over it, as he clearly intended to do at one point.   Or that the brother would be OK with that.

I have no earthly idea why Lori would take in the incestuous child of her husband when it already had a loving family that clearly wanted it.

I don't know why Dylan felt the need to brutalize Jess over the journals, which turned out to be her idea in the first place.  Or why she would want to cover up Erin's affair, or why she needed to involve Dylan to do that.   Or why Dylan and his family would then willingly turn over Erin's baby to the family of her murderer.  

I really didn't like the framing of the Catholic priest, considering the very real problem of pedophilia in the church in the setting.  The PA attorney general stated that there were at least 100,000 cases of child sexual abuse hidden by the church in PA over the last 50 years - and that was just what they could prove.    If you are going to bring up that issue, then you don't sugar coat it.    Having him talk about forgiveness at the end IMO bordered on the obscene in that context.

And I guess Guy Pearce needed the check.   Though having him just be the romantic interest with no connection whatsoever to the rest of the plot isn't a bad way to flip the script on that sexist trope.

Evan Peters and Jean Smart were great, but the story could have used some work.


The should have gone the Fargo route and put "based on a true story" at the beginning. It would have been more believable as a nutty-but-true small town mystery, and by the time everyone figured out the truth, cha-ching!
 
2021-06-01 2:31:51 PM  

CzarChasm: Somebody say mare?

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Any excuse for some nut-job brony to contaminate a thread
 
2021-06-01 4:55:51 PM  

FlashHarry: Hawk24: I wondered why Lori wasn't also arrested and charged with obstruction of justice and/or lying to the police. She knowingly and willingly lied to Mare to cover up the crime.

I wondered that too. But I suppose it's up to the cops to charge her, and they decided against it.


Yeah...I was thinking it might have been intended to show that Mare had some empathy and wasn't as tough and single-minded as she liked to portray herself.
 
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