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2021-05-29 7:35:18 PM  

valenumr: Al Tsheimers: OgreMagi: The punishment for this kind of shiat needs to outweigh the potential profits by so much that these people are in fear for their very life if they do this.  Not just massive fines, which should be so large that the business ceases to exist, but prison time for everyone involved.

One of the problems with our corporate system is it shields the people at the top from civil and criminal liability.  This needs to change.

It's almost like a "qualified immunity" allows people to continue behaving badly, since there are no consequences for that behavior.

Wouldn't a privately run prison qualify as an agent of the state? Civil rights lawsuit all day.


He's wrong about the noconsequenses part. Quailfied immunity doesn't negate any criminal liability from anybody, anywhere, at any time. Qualified immunity is strictly about civil liability. If a crime was committed, it won't protect them.
 
2021-05-29 7:38:34 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: OgreMagi: Benjimin_Dover: What do you think the Pedophile In Chief is going to do about it?

Until Matt Gaetz is removed from office, you don't get to say a farking thing about Biden.

White knighting pedophiles is such a rage these days.


You're kind of stupid.  Correction.  You are a lot stupid.  That picture you idiots float around is of him comforting a family member during a funeral, you simple minded jackass.

So stop covering for the real pedophile Matt Gaetz.
 
2021-05-29 7:43:28 PM  

OgreMagi: Benjimin_Dover: OgreMagi: Benjimin_Dover: What do you think the Pedophile In Chief is going to do about it?

Until Matt Gaetz is removed from office, you don't get to say a farking thing about Biden.

White knighting pedophiles is such a rage these days.

You're kind of stupid.  Correction.  You are a lot stupid.  That picture you idiots float around is of him comforting a family member during a funeral, you simple minded jackass.

So stop covering for the real pedophile Matt Gaetz.


Only you and other Biden Leg Humpers are talking about this "one picture" as if that is the only thing out there. Keep defending him. It's your right but don't think he is going to send you a thank you card or something.
 
2021-05-29 7:44:13 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: OgreMagi: Benjimin_Dover: OgreMagi: Benjimin_Dover: What do you think the Pedophile In Chief is going to do about it?

Until Matt Gaetz is removed from office, you don't get to say a farking thing about Biden.

White knighting pedophiles is such a rage these days.

You're kind of stupid.  Correction.  You are a lot stupid.  That picture you idiots float around is of him comforting a family member during a funeral, you simple minded jackass.

So stop covering for the real pedophile Matt Gaetz.

Only you and other Biden Leg Humpers are talking about this "one picture" as if that is the only thing out there. Keep defending him. It's your right but don't think he is going to send you a thank you card or something.


I didn't vote for Biden.  And you still haven't denounced Gaetz.
 
2021-05-29 7:56:35 PM  

OgreMagi: Benjimin_Dover: OgreMagi: Benjimin_Dover: OgreMagi: Benjimin_Dover: What do you think the Pedophile In Chief is going to do about it?

Until Matt Gaetz is removed from office, you don't get to say a farking thing about Biden.

White knighting pedophiles is such a rage these days.

You're kind of stupid.  Correction.  You are a lot stupid.  That picture you idiots float around is of him comforting a family member during a funeral, you simple minded jackass.

So stop covering for the real pedophile Matt Gaetz.

Only you and other Biden Leg Humpers are talking about this "one picture" as if that is the only thing out there. Keep defending him. It's your right but don't think he is going to send you a thank you card or something.

I didn't vote for Biden.


Nobody said you voted for Biden but you sure do hump his leg pretty good

And you still haven't denounced Gaetz.

I don't even know who he is. Every time Biden's child molesting gets brought up, some Biden defender drools out but but but but but Matt Gaetz, Matt Gaetz, Matt Gaetz. I did learn something new about him today from you. He apparently holds some office somewhere. Well, bully for him. I could theoretically go expend some energy and look him up and what he has supposedly done, but I don't care to. I will say that if he is also a pedophile, then he needs to be put in a wood chipper just as much as any of them do.
 
2021-05-29 8:10:47 PM  
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2021-05-29 8:14:26 PM  

Latinwolf: mrmopar5287: writingdude: mrmopar5287: If he had contact with other detainees, he wasn't in solitary confinement.

That makes it better?

There seems to be a lot of problems going on with this. The US Marshals arrested him, so they knew he was in custody. They transported him from California to Nevada, so they knew he was in custody in Nevada. Somehow, they never once informed the courts "This guy is here for his case and can be scheduled as necessary."

I mean, how does the US Marshal service pick someone up and the courts (of which they are part of) never gets notified that the guy is detained locally and can be brought over for court any time as needed?

So you're attempting to shift the blame away from the private company that ran the prison so you can blame the government instead, how Libertarian of you.


Privatize the profits, socialize the costs. That's the bootstrappy, entrepreneurial Gibbertarian Cuckservative Way.
 
2021-05-29 8:15:03 PM  
I knew which company it was before even opening the thread. This sort of crap is baked into the business model for every private prison company. I've seen behind the curtain on the industry and it's even more evil than you think.
 
2021-05-29 8:15:26 PM  

eldie: Eric Holder and President Obama were so right when they called for abolishing private prisons.  Of course Trump and his despicable Attorneys General, Sessions and Barr supported these terrible institutions. Private prisons have no place in a humane society. But I guess our society is not humane.


I hate to be the one to tell you this hoss,but this happened in Obama's last couple years in office.  It was under his watch.  it was his fault.  You didn't read much about this did you?
 
2021-05-29 8:15:41 PM  
Benjimin_Dover:
And you still haven't denounced Gaetz.

I don't even know who he is. Every time Biden's child molesting

Please stop lying, you pus-gargling, pedo-loving liar.
 
2021-05-29 8:16:40 PM  

mrmopar5287: writingdude: mrmopar5287: If he had contact with other detainees, he wasn't in solitary confinement.

That makes it better?

There seems to be a lot of problems going on with this. The US Marshals arrested him, so they knew he was in custody. They transported him from California to Nevada, so they knew he was in custody in Nevada. Somehow, they never once informed the courts "This guy is here for his case and can be scheduled as necessary."

I mean, how does the US Marshal service pick someone up and the courts (of which they are part of) never gets notified that the guy is detained locally and can be brought over for court any time as needed?


The Marshalls arrested him for someone else.  They catch the guy take him to jail and tell the people who wanted him in the first place they caught  him and where he is.  Somewhere in that chain a link was broken.
 
2021-05-29 8:20:56 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: The Marshalls arrested him for someone else.  They catch the guy take him to jail and tell the people who wanted him in the first place they caught  him and where he is.  Somewhere in that chain a link was broken.


The Marshals arrested him for federal court. They are both the same agency: US DOJ. They are the enforcement arm of the federal court, so the same department there.
 
2021-05-29 8:23:38 PM  

brilett: nhoj1962: Begoggle: Republicans want to privatize everything.
The bizarre part is they've convinced their poor and lower middle-class followers this is a good idea.

Mayor Daley privatized (for pennies on the dollar) The Chjcago Skyway toll bridge to IN, and all parking meters in Chicago (and during Pandemic, Chicago had to pay the private company for suspending parking meter fees for a time). Daley=ultimate Big City Democrat.

This story happened before during O'Bama's 2nd tern.

F.Y.I.

Obama was Mayor of Chicago? Good to know.

Daily's policies weren't "big government" democratic- they were conservative privatization of public assets. Literally what conservatives have and are still calling for. No one thinks Daily is Bernie.

At least if they're not on acid.


Obama was President at the time, his administration threw the wrong guy in a federal private prison. And. It happened long enough into his term where he could have done something about it but he didnt.
 
2021-05-29 8:26:51 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: They catch the guy take him to jail and tell the people who wanted him in the first place they caught  him and where he is.


This is really where the problem is. The US Marshals knew he was in custody and where he was. All they had to do was notify the federal court (of which they are a part of) and then the guy's court dates for arraignment and whatever else would be scheduled.

So, why didn't they do this?

When scheduled, someone would be responsible for bringing him to court. It's a small possibility that the private detention company is responsible for schlepping him across town to court, but more likely the US Marshal service would pick him up from the private detention center and transport him to the federal court.

So, no one with the US Marshals notified the federal court he was in custody. The court never scheduled appearances because their own employees (US Marshals) knew he was in custody but never once told the prosecutors or judge to schedule something.
 
2021-05-29 8:26:53 PM  

mrmopar5287: If he had contact with other detainees, he wasn't in solitary confinement.


who do you think brought him meals and laundry?
 
2021-05-29 8:33:02 PM  

labman: Plus, cancellation of all federal and state contracts for breach of service


One of Biden's first EOs was to prohibit the federal gov't from renewing any contracts with private prisons. Of course, they need to take more steps towards shutting this down, but at least there are steps in the right direction.

/you know red states will keep the grift running, so they should all be locked in their own private prisons
 
2021-05-29 8:36:31 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: What do you think the Pedophile In Chief is going to do about it?


Trump is not in office anymore, so you can't really append "In Chief" after his title.
 
2021-05-29 8:49:38 PM  
Maybe they should trade places.
 
2021-05-29 9:02:16 PM  
All you "don't do the crime if you can't do the time"/ "tough on crime individuals are cordially invited to go fark yourselves without lube.
 
2021-05-29 9:11:10 PM  

0z79: All you "don't do the crime if you can't do the time"/ "tough on crime individuals are cordially invited to go fark yourselves without lube.


Uh why, because the government screwed up procedures and this guy potentially got a pass on his criminal conduct with a much lighter consequence than if things went smoothly?  Nothing in the story addresses the individuals criminal behavior he was arrested on and given federal drug sentencing statutes, he likely got a much lighter penalty thanks to the government incompetence.  Dismissing the charges was absolutely the right thing do to in this case, but this situation really doesn't say anything about the merits or detriments of private prisons, the criminal conduct, or anything else beyond the ineptitude of the US Marshall's service and Department of Justice inability to do the most basic procedure correctly in this case.
 
2021-05-29 9:14:00 PM  

mrmopar5287: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: They catch the guy take him to jail and tell the people who wanted him in the first place they caught  him and where he is.

This is really where the problem is. The US Marshals knew he was in custody and where he was. All they had to do was notify the federal court (of which they are a part of) and then the guy's court dates for arraignment and whatever else would be scheduled.

So, why didn't they do this?

When scheduled, someone would be responsible for bringing him to court. It's a small possibility that the private detention company is responsible for schlepping him across town to court, but more likely the US Marshal service would pick him up from the private detention center and transport him to the federal court.

So, no one with the US Marshals notified the federal court he was in custody. The court never scheduled appearances because their own employees (US Marshals) knew he was in custody but never once told the prosecutors or judge to schedule something.


I'm not sure why you're unclear on the key issue here, but it's obvious you can't make logical connections, so I'll help you out.

Once a prisoner goes into a facility, he is for all intents the property of that facility. All his communication goes through the facility. If he goes out, it's up to them. What comes in, is up to them.

All the things you have been wondering howcome they didn't do them, were probably being done; but your error is assuming a CORRUPT JAIL would do them. They can find all kinds of legitimate reasons why an inmate can't make a court date. He's sick. He's in AdSeg. He missed bus call. The paperwork got there late.

And on the flip side, we know the jail was lying to HIM, telling him he didn't need a lawyer, that the feds just moved slow, his court date would be coming up.

Your weird idea that the Marshals just drive up to the jail and the guy hops in back tells me you have never been within a nuclear mile of a jail. Which is too bad. You should try it.
 
2021-05-29 9:28:27 PM  
Find out who owns it, the board of directors and revoke their immunity.
 
2021-05-29 9:30:11 PM  
Somewhere out there in the "$ystem" it's likely there's a few more of these.
 
2021-05-29 9:43:48 PM  
Private prisons should. Not. Exist. Incarceration not be something people make money off of. It's the responsibility of the government. :Oh, but what about over crowded prisons? How will they afford it?!" Don't toss so many people into prison! The US has the highest incarceration rate among ALL other countries. Yes, that includes China and Russia. Stop throwing people with drug problems into jail. Stop arresting them for possession. Focus on rehabilitation FFS.
 
2021-05-29 10:08:55 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: OgreMagi: Benjimin_Dover: OgreMagi: Benjimin_Dover: OgreMagi: Benjimin_Dover: What do you think the Pedophile In Chief is going to do about it?

Until Matt Gaetz is removed from office, you don't get to say a farking thing about Biden.

White knighting pedophiles is such a rage these days.

You're kind of stupid.  Correction.  You are a lot stupid.  That picture you idiots float around is of him comforting a family member during a funeral, you simple minded jackass.

So stop covering for the real pedophile Matt Gaetz.

Only you and other Biden Leg Humpers are talking about this "one picture" as if that is the only thing out there. Keep defending him. It's your right but don't think he is going to send you a thank you card or something.

I didn't vote for Biden.

Nobody said you voted for Biden but you sure do hump his leg pretty good

And you still haven't denounced Gaetz.

I don't even know who he is. Every time Biden's child molesting gets brought up, some Biden defender drools out but but but but but Matt Gaetz, Matt Gaetz, Matt Gaetz. I did learn something new about him today from you. He apparently holds some office somewhere. Well, bully for him. I could theoretically go expend some energy and look him up and what he has supposedly done, but I don't care to. I will say that if he is also a pedophile, then he needs to be put in a wood chipper just as much as any of them do.


I'm not humping Biden's leg.  I'm waiting for some actual evidence that is more than a picture that proves nothing.  Meanwhile, there is enough evidence against Gaetz that there is no excuse that is still in Congress and hasn't been charged.  You not knowing who it is means you have been ignoring what's been going on and only poke your head out to scream unsubstantiated rumors about Biden.
 
2021-05-29 10:41:35 PM  

jasonvatch: I recommend federal kidnapping charges, and conspiracy.


I doubt there's a conspiracy, just people who don't care.  I'd make the punishment 355 days in solitary for anyone who failed to pass on the message, though.

mrmopar5287: There seems to be a lot of problems going on with this. The US Marshals arrested him, so they knew he was in custody. They transported him from California to Nevada, so they knew he was in custody in Nevada. Somehow, they never once informed the courts "This guy is here for his case and can be scheduled as necessary."

I mean, how does the US Marshal service pick someone up and the courts (of which they are part of) never gets notified that the guy is detained locally and can be brought over for court any time as needed?


Somebody dropped the ball.  It happens.  The real sin is the prison not doing something about it.

mrmopar5287: qorkfiend: In the thread it says the Marshals just went and got him after he wrote the Federal Public Defender.

The fact that the judge immediately dismissed the case is a hint that they acknowledge it's their fault and that it's an immediate speedy trial issue that they can't overcome.


It doesn't matter who dropped the ball, there's still a speedy trial issue.

Kalyco Jack: Outlaw limited liability corporations and you'll see a ton of problems evaporate overnight.


Outlaw limited liability companies and investment basically ceases.  The economy turns down and never recovers.

nhoj1962: Mayor Daley privatized (for pennies on the dollar) The Chjcago Skyway toll bridge to IN, and all parking meters in Chicago (and during Pandemic, Chicago had to pay the private company for suspending parking meter fees for a time). Daley=ultimate Big City Democrat.


Yeah, it's a way to raise money without raising taxes.  Short term benefit, long term very bad.  It's what tends to happen when budget shortfalls get bad enough.
 
2021-05-29 10:50:02 PM  

dryknife: fatassbastard:  You said dollars twice.


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The correct response is:

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2021-05-29 11:02:08 PM  

OgreMagi: Benjimin_Dover: OgreMagi: Benjimin_Dover: OgreMagi: Benjimin_Dover: OgreMagi: Benjimin_Dover: What do you think the Pedophile In Chief is going to do about it?

Until Matt Gaetz is removed from office, you don't get to say a farking thing about Biden.

White knighting pedophiles is such a rage these days.

You're kind of stupid.  Correction.  You are a lot stupid.  That picture you idiots float around is of him comforting a family member during a funeral, you simple minded jackass.

So stop covering for the real pedophile Matt Gaetz.

Only you and other Biden Leg Humpers are talking about this "one picture" as if that is the only thing out there. Keep defending him. It's your right but don't think he is going to send you a thank you card or something.

I didn't vote for Biden.

Nobody said you voted for Biden but you sure do hump his leg pretty good

And you still haven't denounced Gaetz.

I don't even know who he is. Every time Biden's child molesting gets brought up, some Biden defender drools out but but but but but Matt Gaetz, Matt Gaetz, Matt Gaetz. I did learn something new about him today from you. He apparently holds some office somewhere. Well, bully for him. I could theoretically go expend some energy and look him up and what he has supposedly done, but I don't care to. I will say that if he is also a pedophile, then he needs to be put in a wood chipper just as much as any of them do.

I'm not humping Biden's leg.  I'm waiting for some actual evidence that is more than a picture that proves nothing.  Meanwhile, there is enough evidence against Gaetz that there is no excuse that is still in Congress and hasn't been charged.  You not knowing who it is means you have been ignoring what's been going on and only poke your head out to scream unsubstantiated rumors about Biden.


I'll treat anybody the same as I've treated Biden. I'll denounce anybody as a pedophile that I see doing the same things I've seen Biden do in many videos and pictures. I don't listen to accusations of what somebody claims Biden did. I made my decision based upon visual observation of the acts directly. I'll do the same for this Geatz dude. Show me the videos and pictures of him doing things as Biden or worse and I'll denounce him right here and now. Show me videos or pictures of you doing the same things and I'll denounce you as well. Which seems likely that they exist as it seems like you are excusing at least one picture, not sure exactly which one, because it showed him doing "his thing" at a funeral which makes him totally not a pedophile. Maybe that behavior is normal for you or people in your circle.
 
2021-05-29 11:06:28 PM  

LrdPhoenix: Benjimin_Dover: What do you think the Pedophile In Chief is going to do about it?

Trump is not in office anymore, so you can't really append "In Chief" after his title.


I don't read trump as a pedo. A disgusting lecher? Sure.
 
2021-05-29 11:08:06 PM  

Daedalus27: 0z79: All you "don't do the crime if you can't do the time"/ "tough on crime individuals are cordially invited to go fark yourselves without lube.

Uh why, because the government screwed up procedures and this guy potentially got a pass on his criminal conduct with a much lighter consequence than if things went smoothly?  Nothing in the story addresses the individuals criminal behavior he was arrested on and given federal drug sentencing statutes, he likely got a much lighter penalty thanks to the government incompetence.  Dismissing the charges was absolutely the right thing do to in this case, but this situation really doesn't say anything about the merits or detriments of private prisons, the criminal conduct, or anything else beyond the ineptitude of the US Marshall's service and Department of Justice inability to do the most basic procedure correctly in this case.


Innocent until proven guilty. He didn't even get an arraignment. His constitutional rights were blatantly violated.
 
2021-05-29 11:50:56 PM  

Daedalus27: 0z79: All you "don't do the crime if you can't do the time"/ "tough on crime individuals are cordially invited to go fark yourselves without lube.

Uh why, because the government screwed up procedures and this guy potentially got a pass on his criminal conduct with a much lighter consequence than if things went smoothly?  Nothing in the story addresses the individuals criminal behavior he was arrested on and given federal drug sentencing statutes, he likely got a much lighter penalty thanks to the government incompetence.  Dismissing the charges was absolutely the right thing do to in this case, but this situation really doesn't say anything about the merits or detriments of private prisons, the criminal conduct, or anything else beyond the ineptitude of the US Marshall's service and Department of Justice inability to do the most basic procedure correctly in this case.


Sorry, I'm a bleeding heart liberal; that makes me allergic to talking with psychopaths.
 
2021-05-29 11:54:15 PM  

Daedalus27: 0z79: All you "don't do the crime if you can't do the time"/ "tough on crime individuals are cordially invited to go fark yourselves without lube.

Uh why, because the government screwed up procedures and this guy potentially got a pass on his criminal conduct with a much lighter consequence than if things went smoothly?  Nothing in the story addresses the individuals criminal behavior he was arrested on and given federal drug sentencing statutes, he likely got a much lighter penalty thanks to the government incompetence.  Dismissing the charges was absolutely the right thing do to in this case, but this situation really doesn't say anything about the merits or detriments of private prisons, the criminal conduct, or anything else beyond the ineptitude of the US Marshall's service and Department of Justice inability to do the most basic procedure correctly in this case.


I'll add to my previous response: This guy was held in solitary for 355 days, over marijuana. If you think that's OK, then your sense of right and wrong are so broken beyond repair, I almost doubt that you had one in the first place.
 
2021-05-30 12:38:42 AM  

valenumr: Daedalus27: 0z79: All you "don't do the crime if you can't do the time"/ "tough on crime individuals are cordially invited to go fark yourselves without lube.

Uh why, because the government screwed up procedures and this guy potentially got a pass on his criminal conduct with a much lighter consequence than if things went smoothly?  Nothing in the story addresses the individuals criminal behavior he was arrested on and given federal drug sentencing statutes, he likely got a much lighter penalty thanks to the government incompetence.  Dismissing the charges was absolutely the right thing do to in this case, but this situation really doesn't say anything about the merits or detriments of private prisons, the criminal conduct, or anything else beyond the ineptitude of the US Marshall's service and Department of Justice inability to do the most basic procedure correctly in this case.

Innocent until proven guilty. He didn't even get an arraignment. His constitutional rights were blatantly violated.


Agreed and the case was properly dismissed.  I am just suggesting based upon the Federal system and their conviction rate and the generally draconian penalties for narcotics charges, he may, in a perverse way, benefited from this error.

0z79:  I'll add to my previous response: This guy was held in solitary for 355 days, over marijuana. If you think that's OK, then your sense of right and wrong are so broken beyond repair, I almost doubt that you had one in the first place.

He clearly wasn't held in solitary with communication with other inmates and family.  That doesn't justify the detention without being brought before the court, but specify the actual conditions he was held under without the extra drama.  It was bad enough.

Marijuana is still federally illegal.  You can and do put yourself at risk of federal prosecution if you choose to traffic in Marijuana.  If you don't like that, lobby your congressperson and senator to get around to decriminalizing it.  Until that time, you do not get to violate the law just because you don't like it.
 
2021-05-30 12:43:23 AM  

Daedalus27: valenumr: Daedalus27: 0z79: All you "don't do the crime if you can't do the time"/ "tough on crime individuals are cordially invited to go fark yourselves without lube.

Uh why, because the government screwed up procedures and this guy potentially got a pass on his criminal conduct with a much lighter consequence than if things went smoothly?  Nothing in the story addresses the individuals criminal behavior he was arrested on and given federal drug sentencing statutes, he likely got a much lighter penalty thanks to the government incompetence.  Dismissing the charges was absolutely the right thing do to in this case, but this situation really doesn't say anything about the merits or detriments of private prisons, the criminal conduct, or anything else beyond the ineptitude of the US Marshall's service and Department of Justice inability to do the most basic procedure correctly in this case.

Innocent until proven guilty. He didn't even get an arraignment. His constitutional rights were blatantly violated.

Agreed and the case was properly dismissed.  I am just suggesting based upon the Federal system and their conviction rate and the generally draconian penalties for narcotics charges, he may, in a perverse way, benefited from this error.

0z79:  I'll add to my previous response: This guy was held in solitary for 355 days, over marijuana. If you think that's OK, then your sense of right and wrong are so broken beyond repair, I almost doubt that you had one in the first place.

He clearly wasn't held in solitary with communication with other inmates and family.  That doesn't justify the detention without being brought before the court, but specify the actual conditions he was held under without the extra drama.  It was bad enough.

Marijuana is still federally illegal.  You can and do put yourself at risk of federal prosecution if you choose to traffic in Marijuana.  If you don't like that, lobby your congressperson and senator to get around to decriminalizing it.  U ...


I dunno... he was seriously wronged if you ask me... and also, I suspect that you've been a person who has voted to keep marijuana illegal. Apologies if my assumption is inaccurate.
 
2021-05-30 1:13:43 AM  
Prison should be an open data set available to everyone.

Oh it is.  I can't RTFA because Javashiat, but I assume there are court records and such.  However, and I am just stating my humble opinion,

THE GODDAM GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO TRACK EVERY SINGLE IMPRISONED PERSON AND ENSURE THEIR CASES ARE TREATED FAIRLY AND IN DUE COURSE BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST IN THE CONSTITUTION IT'S IN THE BILL OF GODDAM RIGHTS

Project Innocence must be an independent government funded project, not just some college students learning how the law works. Anyone behind bars needs to have some sort of status review on a timeline.  Probation hearings aren't enough.

DUE PROCESS

that's all.  No due process?  Unconstitutional and your company dies like a murder conviction.
 
2021-05-30 1:18:18 AM  

OgreMagi: I'm not humping Biden's leg.  I'm waiting for some actual evidence that is more than a picture that proves nothing.  Meanwhile, there is enough evidence against Gaetz that there is no excuse that is still in Congress and hasn't been charged.  You not knowing who it is means you have been ignoring what's been going on and only poke your head out to scream unsubstantiated rumors about Biden.


Doesn't matter. OAN said it. He believes it. That settles it.
 
2021-05-30 1:42:24 AM  

dionysusaur: jasonvatch: I recommend federal kidnapping charges, and conspiracy.

Along with confiscation of assets.


Why y'all are not demanding a unicorn and maybe a puppy who will always be a puppy but also a knows engineering and will make an electric car battery so amazing that even Elon will shut the fark up is beyond me.
I mean if you're really dreaming then shoot for the moo.
 
2021-05-30 3:02:54 AM  

soupafi: He needs to sue for $100 billion dollars


And the private prison corporation needs to pay, not the tax payers, but we know who will pay.
 
2021-05-30 3:21:30 AM  

0z79: I dunno... he was seriously wronged if you ask me... and also, I suspect that you've been a person who has voted to keep marijuana illegal. Apologies if my assumption is inaccurate.


He was seriously wronged and should be compensated by the party that wronged him, the federal government.  I voted for marijuana legalization both medical and recreational in the state I reside in, I don't personally partake in the substance, but you do you.  However, just because marijuana is legal in some states, doesn't override its placement as a schedule 1 drug federally.  That needs to be changed, but until it is, the federal government can continue to target individuals involved in marijuana (mostly those involved in the transportation and large scale production but any quantity can get you nailed federally if they really want you).
 
2021-05-30 3:24:29 AM  

Daedalus27: 0z79: I dunno... he was seriously wronged if you ask me... and also, I suspect that you've been a person who has voted to keep marijuana illegal. Apologies if my assumption is inaccurate.

He was seriously wronged and should be compensated by the party that wronged him, the federal government.  I voted for marijuana legalization both medical and recreational in the state I reside in, I don't personally partake in the substance, but you do you.  However, just because marijuana is legal in some states, doesn't override its placement as a schedule 1 drug federally.  That needs to be changed, but until it is, the federal government can continue to target individuals involved in marijuana (mostly those involved in the transportation and large scale production but any quantity can get you nailed federally if they really want you).


Glad I quit playing Resident Evil long enough to actually read what you're saying. Apologies for drunken-posting earlier.
 
2021-05-30 4:28:34 AM  

Daedalus27: potentially got a pass on his criminal conduct with a much lighter consequence


Not just no consequences (the headline of "innocent" man is misleading, because he is probably a criminal - the feds don't indict people for no reason) but probably a huge settlement. He's come out wildly rich beyond anything he could achieve himself because he was a criminal.
 
2021-05-30 4:31:07 AM  

0z79: This guy was held in solitary for 355 days, over marijuana


Nowhere in any of the documents (other than the sensational headline here on Fark) does it say he was held in solitary.
 
2021-05-30 5:16:01 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Your weird idea that the Marshals just drive up to the jail and the guy hops in back


He was in custody of the US Marshals. It works a lot like that: they show up and demand [insert name] into their custody for transport to court. Unless the guy is ill to the point he is confined to a hospital bed, the custody facility produces him to the Marshals. The facility doesn't get to say "He can't go to court today because [insert silly reason]."
 
2021-05-30 5:51:11 AM  

valenumr: LrdPhoenix: Benjimin_Dover: What do you think the Pedophile In Chief is going to do about it?

Trump is not in office anymore, so you can't really append "In Chief" after his title.

I don't read trump as a pedo. A disgusting lecher? Sure.


Because everyone has photos of his 12-year old daughter giving him a lap dance?
 
2021-05-30 11:54:38 AM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: Not only is "disappearing" someone like this not only a US crime, but a recognized international crime against humanity as well?


I'm sorry, what was that again?
 
2021-05-30 12:48:05 PM  

LrdPhoenix: Benjimin_Dover: What do you think the Pedophile In Chief is going to do about it?

Trump is not in office anymore, so you can't really append "In Chief" after his title.


Yes, it is difficult to picture Biden* in a position of authority, yet here we are.
 
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