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(The New Civil Rights Movement)   Texas churches in federal lawsuit: We aren't going to fire people because they're gay, we're going to fire them for using Grindr. Straight people use Grindr all the time, don't they? So this is totes not discrimination   (thenewcivilrightsmovement.com) divider line
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2021-05-27 2:07:30 PM  
That Hotze guy strikes me as conflicted.
 
2021-05-27 3:52:20 PM  
Moreover, the plaintiffs allege, Bostock should not bar employers from enacting policies, for religious or non-religious reasons, that target "practicinghomosexual and transgender individuals"

So they only allow homosexual and transgender individuals who aren't willing to put in the work to get good at it?
 
2021-05-27 5:14:20 PM  
No, you cannot have the law favor your religion in this matter, as it is spelled out in the Constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...

They are seeking establishment of laws favoring their religion over the rights of others.

Secondly, the "deeply held religious beliefs" aren't even the beliefs in the bible.  Sadly, the KJV is so refined that all original meaning to Christians has been lost.  Meanwhile, rabbinical scholars will gladly tell you an approximation of the original text and the meaning behind it.  So this isn't about religious beliefs as it is y'all wanting to be discriminatory assholes to the LGBTQ+ community.

All the things they are asking for are in violation of rights to privacy that were used to strike down the anti-sodomy laws in Texas when it was the lone holdout of such laws. Sadly, this is likely to go to the court of appeals because of the RWNJ district judge this will be set before.

This is why LGBTQ+ people are always mad and why the ERA needs to be ratified NOW!
 
2021-05-27 5:37:22 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: Moreover, the plaintiffs allege, Bostock should not bar employers from enacting policies, for religious or non-religious reasons, that target "practicinghomosexual and transgender individuals"

So they only allow homosexual and transgender individuals who aren't willing to put in the work to get good at it?


Oh, honey, I don't need to practice homosexuality, I turned pro years ago.
 
2021-05-27 5:38:42 PM  
What the hell is wrong with the church in Texas.   Are gay people applying to work at homophobic churches that much?
 
2021-05-27 5:38:54 PM  
Thankfully we'll have a 6-3 ruling saying it's totally okay to discriminate against them.
 
2021-05-27 5:40:20 PM  
Huh.  Well, okay.  I guess we can fire people for GOING to church then.  Right?  This works both ways?
 
2021-05-27 5:41:07 PM  

raius: What the hell is wrong with the church in Texas.   Are gay people applying to work at homophobic churches that much?


Well, based on my travels through TX, in the smaller towns the primary industries seem to be Dollar General/Dollar Store, Waffle House, meth labs, and churches.
Often within the same strip mall.
So...not exactly spoiled for options.
 
2021-05-27 5:41:08 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: Moreover, the plaintiffs allege, Bostock should not bar employers from enacting policies, for religious or non-religious reasons, that target "practicinghomosexual and transgender individuals"

So they only allow homosexual and transgender individuals who aren't willing to put in the work to get good at it?


Practicing? So what would a "practicing" heterosexual be? Lindsey Graham?
 
2021-05-27 5:43:06 PM  

Gin Buddy: Martian_Astronomer: Moreover, the plaintiffs allege, Bostock should not bar employers from enacting policies, for religious or non-religious reasons, that target "practicinghomosexual and transgender individuals"

So they only allow homosexual and transgender individuals who aren't willing to put in the work to get good at it?

Practicing? So what would a "practicing" heterosexual be? Lindsey Graham?


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Lindsey having some old fashioned locker room talk.
 
2021-05-27 5:45:12 PM  
Practicing, as in: he was teaching my how to clean it and it went off.
 
2021-05-27 5:46:12 PM  
Churches only want you to do ghey stuff with the preacher so he can guilt you into tithing more.
 
2021-05-27 5:48:14 PM  

harleyquinnical: No, you cannot have the law favor your religion in this matter, as it is spelled out in the Constitution:


Any organization can have a morality clause. Being an active member of a rest stop, gloryhole hookup app could certainly be covered in that. To be fair, they should add Tindr and Only Farmers* too.


*Which I suspect is a bestiality swap meet scheduling app
 
2021-05-27 5:48:15 PM  
Cancel culture, amirite?

Or is "cancelling" only OK when conservatives do it?
 
2021-05-27 5:51:55 PM  
Sounds like someone struck out using grindr and now wants everyone to suffer.
 
2021-05-27 5:53:34 PM  
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2021-05-27 5:53:48 PM  
Ding! ding! Looks like we have another deeply closeted conservative 'Christian' filled with self hatred. He spends alot of time thinking about the lives and activities of gay people.

Hotze in 2015:'Gay marriage is about teaching children to participate in gay sex'

Hotze: 'Pedophilia' is 'Next Point' of 'Homosexual Movement'

Hotze: Dr. Steve Hotze wages war on "homofascists

I give it a year. We will see a news story about him being arrested smoking crack with 2-3 underage black transgenders in a seedy hotel.
 
2021-05-27 5:54:24 PM  
This is the same Houston real estate ultra right wing spoiler who fought masks tooth and nail and every other issue for the last ten years.  This isn't about religion.  It's about a wealthy right wing activist.  Don't be fooled by the title of the skirmish.  And he's a doctor, which justifies his having graduated from high school without being uppity about it.
 
2021-05-27 5:54:40 PM  

raius: What the hell is wrong with the church in Texas.   Are gay people applying to work at homophobic churches that much?


Gay people raised in strict religious surroundings often try to pray the gay away.  They hate who they are so much that they throw themselves at religion to "save" themselves and to help keep them on the straight-and-narrow.  They dedicate themselves so strongly to religion that they often end up working in churches until they either die, or realize that they're just gay and accept themselves and leave their hateful religion.
 
2021-05-27 5:58:03 PM  
Church in my old neighborhood had a rainbow flag out front. The little sign had a quote from Buddha. Church across the street had similar inclusive type signage.

The horror.
 
2021-05-27 6:01:40 PM  

Sarek of the Edmund Fitzgerald: raius: What the hell is wrong with the church in Texas.   Are gay people applying to work at homophobic churches that much?

Well, based on my travels through TX, in the smaller towns the primary industries seem to be Dollar General/Dollar Store, Waffle House, meth labs, and churches.
Often within the same strip mall.
So...not exactly spoiled for options.


Lots of automotive suppliers and repair and parts.  Rural people do not drive jalopies. In fact, the quality of vehicles I see on the road in Appalachia is better than the cars I see on the road in affluent MoCo, MD.
 
2021-05-27 6:02:18 PM  

Godscrack: Ding! ding! Looks like we have another deeply closeted conservative 'Christian' filled with self hatred. He spends alot of time thinking about the lives and activities of gay people.

Hotze in 2015:'Gay marriage is about teaching children to participate in gay sex'

Hotze: 'Pedophilia' is 'Next Point' of 'Homosexual Movement'

Hotze: Dr. Steve Hotze wages war on "homofascists

I give it a year. We will see a news story about him being arrested smoking crack with 2-3 underage black transgenders in a seedy hotel.


Gang-banged by the entire blacked.com cast and crew.
 
2021-05-27 6:02:53 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: Moreover, the plaintiffs allege, Bostock should not bar employers from enacting policies, for religious or non-religious reasons, that target "practicinghomosexual and transgender individuals"

So they only allow homosexual and transgender individuals who aren't willing to put in the work to get good at it?


CN they be fabulous though?
 
2021-05-27 6:03:19 PM  

Godscrack: We will see a news story about him being arrested smoking crack with 2-3 underage black transgenders in a seedy hotel.


I hope not. Those poor kids deserve a better life than doing anything with that loser.
 
2021-05-27 6:03:46 PM  
At the same time, the plaintiffs believe that they are called by God to obey the civil authorities. So they are caught in a bind, and until this Court grants the declaratory relief that the plaintiffs seek, the plaintiffs have no way to avoid violating their religious beliefs

Translation: until SCOTUS let's them discriminate Father Tim is ramrodding the usher
 
2021-05-27 6:09:22 PM  
That past 16 months of COVID I've done nothing BUT practice homosexuality.

I'm ready to move on from practice to an actual match.  Gimme my second shot and it's gonna be "Put me in, Coach!"

/intentional double entendre
 
2021-05-27 6:12:02 PM  
Mr. Wisser : Mr. Dallas?
Jodie : Yes?
Mr. Wisser : I'm Harlan Wisser from the Child Welfare Department. May I come in?
Jodie : I don't know yet. What's on your mind?
Mr. Wisser : We received a call stating that you had an infant in your apartment.
Jodie : So?
Mr. Wisser : Well, sir, we also received a complaint.
Jodie : From who?
Mr. Wisser : It's a little difficult to discuss in the hallway.
[Jodie reluctantly lets him in]
Mr. Wisser : Thank you. Someone in the area called our offices and told us that a single young male homosexual was keeping a baby in his apartment. Are you he?
Jodie : I happen to have a baby here. Right over there, as a matter of fact.
[points to the basinet]
Mr. Wisser : He looks pale.
Jodie : He's a she and so do you.
Mr. Wisser : Mr. Dallas, please don't make this any harder than it already is.
Jodie : How am I making it hard? Listen, you walked in here, I did not come to you.
Mr. Wisser : Are you a practicing homosexual?
Jodie : I don't have to practice, I'm very good at it.

/Confused?
//You won't be...
 
2021-05-27 6:12:51 PM  

pueblonative: At the same time, the plaintiffs believe that they are called by God to obey the civil authorities. So they are caught in a bind, and until this Court grants the declaratory relief that the plaintiffs seek, the plaintiffs have no way to avoid violating their religious beliefs

Translation: until SCOTUS let's them discriminate Father Tim is ramrodding the usher


Other than changing their religious beliefs.
 
2021-05-27 6:14:08 PM  
"No employee, male or female, may undergo surgery to modify their genitals, unless that surgery is needed for a medical condition other than gender dysphoria."

Fire every circumcised person now? Do you have to have a penis inspection day for that? Do you just put cameras in the restrooms to make sure?

Christians are bizarre, scary folk.
 
2021-05-27 6:18:45 PM  
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2021-05-27 6:23:07 PM  

special20: "No employee, male or female, may undergo surgery to modify their genitals, unless that surgery is needed for a medical condition other than gender dysphoria."

Fire every circumcised person now? Do you have to have a penis inspection day for that? Do you just put cameras in the restrooms to make sure?

Christians are bizarre, scary folk.


So, no. Circumcision gets a pass, as doe FGM. Of course it does.
 
2021-05-27 6:23:09 PM  
I still can't wrap my head around the standard "christian" response to the LGBT community.

Even IF you truly believe that being LGBT is a sin as outlined in the Bible, I still don't really understand.  The Bible also teaches that we are all sinners, right?  We all do something or think something that is forbidden in the big book of God's Rules.  So...  Are we going to fire everyone for falling short of Biblical perfection?  Why only LGBT people?

I get that we are supposed to strive for perfection and if you are a church that could mean encouraging people to not be gay.  That is pretty bad by itself.  But I still don't see why you'd punish your LGBT members or employees.  The church accepts all kinds of sins from its flock, and doesn't generally require people to actually meet any milestones of progress on the frequency of those 'sins'.  The alcoholics are welcomed with open arms.

I do get it, I guess, it just saddens me.  The answer is hatred.
 
2021-05-27 6:24:09 PM  

special20: "No employee, male or female, may undergo surgery to modify their genitals, unless that surgery is needed for a medical condition other than gender dysphoria."

Fire every circumcised person now? Do you have to have a penis inspection day for that? Do you just put cameras in the restrooms to make sure?

Christians are bizarre, scary folk.


it's all about control. And even if they were able to control every minutiae of your life they would still be miserable bastards.
 
2021-05-27 6:28:39 PM  
"I was going on Grindr for... research."
 
2021-05-27 6:34:44 PM  

Eclectic: "Practicing transgender individual". So if you are transitioning or have already transitioned, they want to be able to fire you unless you live as the sex you were assigned at birth regardless of how much you suffer.

And if you are gay or lesbian, one moment of joy with someone you are attracted to will get you fired too.

F*ck these assholes and their god of hatred. F*ck them each and every one.


"Practicing"?  That sh*t makes no sense.  I'm not a "practicing" heterosexual.  I just AM.  Like gay people just ARE.  Practicing implies a choice.  F*ck them and their biggotry.

/sick of this nonsense
 
2021-05-27 6:34:46 PM  
but raping children still draws the promotion.

/phrasing
 
2021-05-27 6:36:06 PM  

Laptopia: I still can't wrap my head around the standard "christian" response to the LGBT community.

Even IF you truly believe that being LGBT is a sin as outlined in the Bible, I still don't really understand.  The Bible also teaches that we are all sinners, right?  We all do something or think something that is forbidden in the big book of God's Rules.  So...  Are we going to fire everyone for falling short of Biblical perfection?  Why only LGBT people?

I get that we are supposed to strive for perfection and if you are a church that could mean encouraging people to not be gay.  That is pretty bad by itself.  But I still don't see why you'd punish your LGBT members or employees.  The church accepts all kinds of sins from its flock, and doesn't generally require people to actually meet any milestones of progress on the frequency of those 'sins'.  The alcoholics are welcomed with open arms.

I do get it, I guess, it just saddens me.  The answer is hatred.


It's always been about resources. Don't you know a white guy who can barely tie his shoes who is in a management position? Did you ever notice how a certain kind of mediocrity seems to rise to the top anyway?
If you can get your culture to believe that whole swaths of the population shouldn't get to compete at all, for logically irrelevant reasons, It will be easier on those who do the convincing. Is there a job where sexuality or skin color matter? Of course not. Race is a social construct. Sexuallity/Gender identity issues are innate. The American Religious right and conservatism in general needs to vilify the majority of the population in order to keep there ill-gotten power. It's at the very core of their inherently fascist ideology.

/Sorry to rant
 
2021-05-27 6:39:10 PM  
Anyone bringing suits like this should be arrested and charged with terrorism.

/a b*tch can dream
 
2021-05-27 6:40:02 PM  
Meanwhile the preacher is on Plenty of Fish looking for 18 year Olds.
 
2021-05-27 6:52:02 PM  
JUST for using Grindr?

They sure that's gonna work how they think?
 
2021-05-27 6:59:51 PM  
So farking dumb. They could've just made up any other reason and the people who got fired probably wouldn't have been able to bring it to court, like almost any other reason.

They're so whipped up by hatred that they can't even stop and think about a smart way to be a scumbag, which I guess is a good thing from a certain perspective, but I'd rather not have them be assholes at all.
 
2021-05-27 7:14:13 PM  
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2021-05-27 7:14:50 PM  
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2021-05-27 7:24:53 PM  

special20: "No employee, male or female, may undergo surgery to modify their genitals, unless that surgery is needed for a medical condition other than gender dysphoria."

Fire every circumcised person now? Do you have to have a penis inspection day for that? Do you just put cameras in the restrooms to make sure?

Christians are bizarre, scary folk.


I'm trying to figure out medical restrictions don't immediately run afoul of HIPAA and other medical laws. What right does your employer have to know what surgeries you have and have not received, for any reason?
 
2021-05-27 7:25:17 PM  
"Pastor Raymond, please stop acting so gay, we need you to sell Jesus' forgiveness!"
 
2021-05-27 7:27:46 PM  
The solution here is clear:  if your religious beliefs prevent you from following the law when running your business, you don't get to run a business. Antidiscrimination laws are no different from any other. You can't cite your religious beliefs for trying to skirt OSHA regulations, or for wage theft, or for tax evasion, so why should they get to for hating teh ghey?
 
2021-05-27 7:27:54 PM  
The plaintiffs have sincere and deeply held religious beliefs that marriage is limited to a man and a woman, that sex is to be reserved for marriage, and that men and women are to dress and behave in accordance with distinct and God-ordained, biological sexual identity," the plaintiffs wrote in a brief filed Monday.

I bet he has a prolapsed sphincter.
 
2021-05-27 7:29:16 PM  
If I went to my boss and said, "I will not perform these integral, unavoidable parts of my job because my religion says I can't do them," my boss would go, "Very well, I accept your resignation."

God I hate religious people like this.
 
2021-05-27 7:30:07 PM  
Not agreeing with the homophobes, but what possible reason would a straight person have to use Grindr?
 
2021-05-27 7:30:34 PM  

numfarvera: The plaintiffs have sincere and deeply held religious beliefs that marriage is limited to a man and a woman, that sex is to be reserved for marriage, and that men and women are to dress and behave in accordance with distinct and God-ordained, biological sexual identity," the plaintiffs wrote in a brief filed Monday.

I bet he has a prolapsed sphincter.


Like, who cares what they believe? None of that is factual information and it stands in sharp contrast to the law. You don't just get to say "I disagree with the law because my magical imaginary friend said to." That's insane. I don't understand why any judges allow this horsesh*t.

/oh right, a lot of them are Dominionist bastards, too.
 
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