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2021-05-17 10:02:31 PM  
Ohhh boy
 
2021-05-18 12:36:17 AM  
We certainly need a reauthorized Voting Rights Act - that applies to every state, I don't trust Manchin or Murkowski at all. Not even a little bit.
 
2021-05-18 12:37:54 AM  
So they're bravely offering to renew the status quo?  Bold move, guys.
 
2021-05-18 12:38:24 AM  

Bruscar: We certainly need a reauthorized Voting Rights Act - that applies to every state, I don't trust Manchin or Murkowski at all. Not even a little bit.


The VRA is less comprehensive than the law most of the democratic lawmakers want to pass
 
2021-05-18 12:41:48 AM  
I'd like to play ball with Manchin.

It would involve me throwing a baseball at his head
 
2021-05-18 12:42:14 AM  
Manchin and Murkowski, in their letter, don't specifically throw their support behind one bill in particular.

"We need to overhaul and reform Voting Rights and we don't care how we accomplish this goal."

Manchin's push for Congress to focus on reauthorizing the Voting Rights Act comes as Democrats are eager to pass a broader bill known as the For the People Act that would overhaul elections.
But Manchin has repeatedly said he doesn't support the bill, in part because he wants GOP support for any election-related bill that is taken up in Congress.


"No, not that way."
 
2021-05-18 12:45:57 AM  

Bruscar: We certainly need a reauthorized Voting Rights Act - that applies to every state, I don't trust Manchin or Murkowski at all. Not even a little bit.


I'm sure they're just quaking in their boots that a Farker doesn't trust them.
 
2021-05-18 12:47:32 AM  
Oh for crying out loud. Are they also planning to wait for a few years?
Choose a side Manchin, democracy or fascism.
 
2021-05-18 12:47:59 AM  

shroom: So they're bravely offering to renew the status quo?  Bold move, guys.


This. What needs to be done is reviving and rebuilding the VRA after it was gutted by the SCOTUS. Which means passing one of the bills going through Congress, which means modifying/nuking the filibuster, which means Manchin and Sinema need to STFU and actually do their goddamn jobs instead of this constant political posturing.

They don't give a shiat about "bipartisanship". They pretend to for political points, because they're from red states and care more about keeping their jobs than doing what's right for the country.  Never mind that Democratic proposals would help their constituents far more than anything the GQP would do, never mind that the Democrats actually accomplishing shiat would benefit the party's election chances, not to mention the country as a whole. All that matters is keeping their damn seats to keep the grift going.

And that's the positive interpretation of their actions. Less-charitable interpretations are 'they are dumber than a sack of bricks for not recognizing that the GQP has absolutely no interest in bipartisanship, or anything short of total, uncontested rule' or 'they're Republicans themselves and are intentionally sabotaging the Democrats'.
 
2021-05-18 12:49:20 AM  

Weatherkiss: Manchin and Murkowski, in their letter, don't specifically throw their support behind one bill in particular.

"We need to overhaul and reform Voting Rights and we don't care how we accomplish this goal."

Manchin's push for Congress to focus on reauthorizing the Voting Rights Act comes as Democrats are eager to pass a broader bill known as the For the People Act that would overhaul elections.
But Manchin has repeatedly said he doesn't support the bill, in part because he wants GOP support for any election-related bill that is taken up in Congress.

"No, not that way."


I think you misunderstood "don't specifically throw their support behind one bill in particular".  How I read that isn't "don't care how we accomplish this goal", it's more "we want to say we support something so we can get the headlines but we don't want to propose anything specific so we can't be held accountable while we continue to block, water down, and work against anything that would actually accomplish our stated goal."
 
2021-05-18 12:54:20 AM  
So the GOP universally opposes the For the People Act, and Manchin sees that as a negative?  The party that is doing everything it can to take away the "wrong" people's right to vote?
 
2021-05-18 12:54:40 AM  
Rhetoric: "Congress must come together - just as we have done time and again - to reaffirm our longstanding bipartisan commitment to free, accessible, and secure elections for all."

Reality: Murkowski was the only GOP co-sponsor for the [Voting Rights Act] during the previous Congress.
 
2021-05-18 12:56:08 AM  
The interesting thing about this is that Murkowski is hated by Teabaggers even more than Green Teabaggers hate Manchin. They literally primaried her for not being kook enough for their tastes and she won as a write-in. Relatively more recently, the kook Alaskan Republican State Party censured her and "vows to find a challenger", and sent a sternly worded letter that she not run on the Republican ticket (heh). Like all kooks, they just don't recognize how THEY are the ones out of step with the state.

I suppose that this is her way of taking Manchin up on his "bipartisan" rhetoric. It certainly can't hurt her bona fides with Republican campaign consultants the way she's subtly backing up Manchin's framing that the "For the People" Act is too extreme. (Just because State level activist nutballs hate her doesn't mean that Republicans who have to win general elections do.)

Either way, it's looking to be one of those ugly unsatisfying compromises that we used to get all the time, instead of the pure partisan gridlock that we now have.
 
2021-05-18 12:56:12 AM  

lithven: Weatherkiss: Manchin and Murkowski, in their letter, don't specifically throw their support behind one bill in particular.

"We need to overhaul and reform Voting Rights and we don't care how we accomplish this goal."

Manchin's push for Congress to focus on reauthorizing the Voting Rights Act comes as Democrats are eager to pass a broader bill known as the For the People Act that would overhaul elections.
But Manchin has repeatedly said he doesn't support the bill, in part because he wants GOP support for any election-related bill that is taken up in Congress.

"No, not that way."

I think you misunderstood "don't specifically throw their support behind one bill in particular".  How I read that isn't "don't care how we accomplish this goal", it's more "we want to say we support something so we can get the headlines but we don't want to propose anything specific so we can't be held accountable while we continue to block, water down, and work against anything that would actually accomplish our stated goal."


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I'll show myself out.
 
2021-05-18 1:12:48 AM  
"Green Teabaggers"

Looks like we found out whose alt this is.
 
2021-05-18 1:13:15 AM  
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AAUGH
 
2021-05-18 1:19:16 AM  
It's the least they can do.

I mean if there was a way they could have done less but still not absolutely nothing they would have gone with that instead. Gotta keep up appearances.
 
2021-05-18 1:21:05 AM  
This thread needs more concern, yes?
 
2021-05-18 1:32:29 AM  

fragMasterFlash: This thread needs more concern, yes?


The Concerniest person in the Senate needs to waffle awhile before she votes the way turtle tells her
 
2021-05-18 1:44:50 AM  

Mr.Insightful: Bruscar: We certainly need a reauthorized Voting Rights Act - that applies to every state, I don't trust Manchin or Murkowski at all. Not even a little bit.

I'm sure they're just quaking in their boots that a Farker doesn't trust them.


Nobody whose paid attention should trust either of them.
 
2021-05-18 1:57:50 AM  

Fart_Machine: "Green Teabaggers"

Looks like we found out whose alt this is.


I don't have an alt, moron. Although I do admit I'm now mildly curious about which (no doubt non-kook non-tantrum-throwing non-asshole -- which is why you hate them) Farker you were thinking of.

Or not.
 
2021-05-18 2:04:35 AM  
Get f*cked, Manchinski.
 
2021-05-18 2:06:46 AM  

Mr.Insightful: Fart_Machine: "Green Teabaggers"

Looks like we found out whose alt this is.

I don't have an alt, moron. Although I do admit I'm now mildly curious about which (no doubt non-kook non-tantrum-throwing non-asshole -- which is why you hate them) Farker you were thinking of.

Or not.


Sorry you got outed shaitposter.  Better roll up another alt.
 
2021-05-18 2:09:13 AM  

LordJiro: shroom: So they're bravely offering to renew the status quo?  Bold move, guys.

This. What needs to be done is reviving and rebuilding the VRA after it was gutted by the SCOTUS. Which means passing one of the bills going through Congress, which means modifying/nuking the filibuster, which means Manchin and Sinema need to STFU and actually do their goddamn jobs instead of this constant political posturing.

They don't give a shiat about "bipartisanship". They pretend to for political points, because they're from red states and care more about keeping their jobs than doing what's right for the country.  Never mind that Democratic proposals would help their constituents far more than anything the GQP would do, never mind that the Democrats actually accomplishing shiat would benefit the party's election chances, not to mention the country as a whole. All that matters is keeping their damn seats to keep the grift going.

And that's the positive interpretation of their actions. Less-charitable interpretations are 'they are dumber than a sack of bricks for not recognizing that the GQP has absolutely no interest in bipartisanship, or anything short of total, uncontested rule' or 'they're Republicans themselves and are intentionally sabotaging the Democrats'.


My concern here is the bolded part. Not that I don't want to see this happen, and I'd rather the more comprehensive bill get through. But you already mentioned that it's necessary because SCOTUS gutted the previous one. What exactly is stopping our currently skewed heavily towards Trump SCOTUS from doing the exactly same thing to anything that passes Congress?

I'm not suggesting that we shouldn't try... but it's going to be hard to keep voting rights locked down when a portion of this country gave far right conservatives control of the highest court in the land for the next 30+ years.
 
2021-05-18 2:31:26 AM  
So Murkowski is acting as his fig leaf.
 
2021-05-18 2:45:29 AM  
Someone in the party's leadership needs to call Manchin's bluff.

I know he is an Republican just making sure there isn't progress but the party needs to advertise to his voters what he is standing against and try to force him to accommodate some progress.

There are going to be people whining that he could jump to the Republican party, I don't believe Manchin will do it simply because his ego would prevent him from licking Trumps balls with every speech. We saw what happens when a Republican doesn't with Cheney.

Force him to make that choice.
 
2021-05-18 3:15:03 AM  
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2021-05-18 5:52:54 AM  
"Hi, Joe; your oncologist here.  Listen, I have some bad news.  You've got lung cancer.   We could probably put it into remission if we started now, but I don't think that's fair to the cancer, so I'm going to wait for it to be bipartisan and agree on its own not to kill you."
 
2021-05-18 6:20:25 AM  
"urging congressional leaders to advance a reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act that could garner bipartisan support."

From the folks who just fast paced 300+ voter suppression bills?
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2021-05-18 6:57:52 AM  
They farkin?
 
2021-05-18 10:26:39 AM  
When the people we elect aren't fully on board with making sure every American has the ability to vote without restrictions or difficulties, get nervous.
 
2021-05-18 11:33:16 AM  
So, two Republican votes.  What about the rest?
 
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