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(Bleacher Report)   Bill Russell to be inducted into the 2021 Basketball Hall of Fame class along with Chris Webber, Paul Pierce and Chris Bosh. Seems like with all those titles, they would have found some time to sneak Bill in earlier   (bleacherreport.com) divider line
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2021-05-16 9:14:26 PM  
... Talk about a weak year after Kobe Duncan and Garnett.

It's like first team All NBA one year and then second and third team next.
 
2021-05-16 11:47:16 PM  
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2021-05-17 12:51:31 AM  
I feel like Chris Bosh is a really good example of the "great player that doesn't quite belong in the hall of fame". He was a consistent all-star but unlike D. Wade, he didn't win anything without LBJ and has, as far as I can tell with a quick google search, no individual offensive or defensive achievements to his name. Fantastic player, but you have to make the cutoff somewhere.
 
2021-05-17 12:55:25 AM  
Bill Russell should have been in the HOF a long time ago
 
2021-05-17 12:59:11 AM  

Bootysama: I feel like Chris Bosh is a really good example of the "great player that doesn't quite belong in the hall of fame". He was a consistent all-star but unlike D. Wade, he didn't win anything without LBJ and has, as far as I can tell with a quick google search, no individual offensive or defensive achievements to his name. Fantastic player, but you have to make the cutoff somewhere.


Player that looked the most like he could turn into the mascot
 
2021-05-17 12:59:40 AM  

Bootysama: I feel like Chris Bosh is a really good example of the "great player that doesn't quite belong in the hall of fame". He was a consistent all-star but unlike D. Wade, he didn't win anything without LBJ and has, as far as I can tell with a quick google search, no individual offensive or defensive achievements to his name. Fantastic player, but you have to make the cutoff somewhere.


Cut off Chris Webber?
 
2021-05-17 1:00:35 AM  

Bootysama: I feel like Chris Bosh is a really good example of the "great player that doesn't quite belong in the hall of fame". He was a consistent all-star but unlike D. Wade, he didn't win anything without LBJ and has, as far as I can tell with a quick google search, no individual offensive or defensive achievements to his name. Fantastic player, but you have to make the cutoff somewhere.


Chris W Bosh - Send Me To New Orleans All Star Game 2008
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also begging for allstar selection should be a dq
 
2021-05-17 1:11:03 AM  

pjbreeze: Bill Russell should have been in the HOF a long time ago


He was inducted as a player in 1975.  He's going in as a coach this time.
 
2021-05-17 1:49:42 AM  

pjbreeze: Bill Russell should have been in the HOF a long time ago


I thought he would have already have been YEARS ago.
 
2021-05-17 2:51:51 AM  

kdawg7736: pjbreeze: Bill Russell should have been in the HOF a long time ago

I thought he would have already have been YEARS ago.


David Stern decided that he was going to make it that the refs and owners would not let that happen.

He made sure that LeBron called the fouls.

Wait, Stern is dead? Whatever, the NBA sucks.
 
2021-05-17 3:38:07 AM  
When is they hall of fame going to add a flopper catagory? That would get some fierce competition
 
2021-05-17 4:14:55 AM  

Bootysama: I feel like Chris Bosh is a really good example of the "great player that doesn't quite belong in the hall of fame". He was a consistent all-star but unlike D. Wade, he didn't win anything without LBJ and has, as far as I can tell with a quick google search, no individual offensive or defensive achievements to his name. Fantastic player, but you have to make the cutoff somewhere.


I love Chris Bosh. His play on Allen's game-tying three in game 6 vs the Spurs is one of my favorite basketball plays of all time. He gets Lebron an open three by picking two defenders, then instantly moves in and gets the rebound on the miss and instantly kicks it to Allen who hits; one entire smooth process. That said, he isn't a Hall of Famer, but it isn't his fault he's going in mostly because it fits the stupid narrative that LeBron built an unprecedented super team.
 
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2021-05-17 7:26:10 AM  
Chris Webber getting in absolutely baffles me. Just... Why?
 
2021-05-17 7:28:22 AM  

pjbreeze: Bill Russell should have been in the HOF a long time ago


He was, all the way back in 1975.

This selection is specifically for his contributions and achievements as a COACH.

It also puts him at a level LeBron can never match.
 
2021-05-17 7:48:20 AM  
Seems like everyone wants to call time-out on Webber
 
2021-05-17 8:30:50 AM  
I see there are many in this thread who did not read the article. Nothing new, but glaringly obvious this time. Offenders should be punished by dragging Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes.
 
2021-05-17 9:25:37 AM  

fatalvenom: kdawg7736: pjbreeze: Bill Russell should have been in the HOF a long time ago

I thought he would have already have been YEARS ago.

David Stern decided that he was going to make it that the refs and owners would not let that happen.

He made sure that LeBron called the fouls.

Wait, Stern is dead? Whatever, the NBA sucks.


I last really watched it in the 1990s. Today it really isn't basketball and more glorified street ball. I remember playing basketball in grade school and junior high and the coaches tell us to not watch the NBA since they don't call walks and other rules we needed to follow.
 
2021-05-17 9:51:22 AM  
Let's see how many people don't bother to read the article

//yes, it is Fark, I know
///lead, not to read, etc. etc.
 
2021-05-17 9:58:09 AM  

lifeslammer: When is they hall of fame going to add a flopper catagory? That would get some fierce competition


Was kinda thinking the same.  I mean, Vlade Divac remains famous for his antics.
 
2021-05-17 10:52:06 AM  

kdawg7736: fatalvenom: kdawg7736: pjbreeze: Bill Russell should have been in the HOF a long time ago

I thought he would have already have been YEARS ago.

David Stern decided that he was going to make it that the refs and owners would not let that happen.

He made sure that LeBron called the fouls.

Wait, Stern is dead? Whatever, the NBA sucks.

I last really watched it in the 1990s. Today it really isn't basketball and more glorified street ball. I remember playing basketball in grade school and junior high and the coaches tell us to not watch the NBA since they don't call walks and other rules we needed to follow.


I grew up on the 80's and 90's NBA.  Today's players would dominate them.  There is SO much more skill and athleticism.  Today's game has gotten boring because today's players are so good.  Steph's range is legitimately to half court.  Nobody can defend that.  Lillard's is just inside half court.  Durant is John Salley, but actually good at basketball (I loved Spider).  They're so freakishly good that unless you do something to the court and/or hoop, it's just going to get more and more boring.
 
2021-05-17 11:49:42 AM  
I grew up on the 80's and 90's NBA.  Today's players would dominate them.

there's not a big enough "THIS" for this

My god, just watch tape from back then, and see how leisurely and slow the games are.
 
2021-05-17 12:33:54 PM  

ElwoodCuse: I grew up on the 80's and 90's NBA.  Today's players would dominate them.

there's not a big enough "THIS" for this

My god, just watch tape from back then, and see how leisurely and slow the games are.


Principle applies to a lot of sports (maybe not boxing? maaaaaaaybe baseball but that's stretching it)

Football (college and pro), hockey, soccer, even X-sports like skateboarding and BMX - crazy how things progress once other see what can be done.

I was watching a replay of the USSR-Canada hockey game from 1972, and it is crazy how slow it is compared to the modern game.
 
2021-05-17 12:48:15 PM  

Bootysama: I feel like Chris Bosh is a really good example of the "great player that doesn't quite belong in the hall of fame". He was a consistent all-star but unlike D. Wade, he didn't win anything without LBJ and has, as far as I can tell with a quick google search, no individual offensive or defensive achievements to his name. Fantastic player, but you have to make the cutoff somewhere.


Yeah i'm sure Chris Bosh with a prime Shaq would have never done anything.

Lets not forget he had to retire super early because of blood clotting or something.  He was 31.  He's only 37 as of March where Lebron turns 37 in December, he would still be playing otherwise.

The bigger issue is that he's perfect for today's league of 3 point shooting space the court basketball.

Anyways he's an example of how your career becomes 'tarnished' when you retire early do to freak health issues.  Dude had the most explosive first step for a big man off the triple threat I can think off.

And why players decide to form superteams.  Well he didn't do anything with freaking Andrea Bargnani as his center and retiring from blot clotting at 31, overrated!!!!

Might as well just do things for yourself at that point.
 
2021-05-17 12:57:50 PM  

swankywanky: ElwoodCuse: I grew up on the 80's and 90's NBA.  Today's players would dominate them.

there's not a big enough "THIS" for this

My god, just watch tape from back then, and see how leisurely and slow the games are.

Principle applies to a lot of sports (maybe not boxing? maaaaaaaybe baseball but that's stretching it)

Football (college and pro), hockey, soccer, even X-sports like skateboarding and BMX - crazy how things progress once other see what can be done.

I was watching a replay of the USSR-Canada hockey game from 1972, and it is crazy how slow it is compared to the modern game.


To put in perspective, if you were an NBA player in the 2000s (not even the 90s) and wanted to get better at shooting, you'd have to go to the 3-point line, take a shot, go get the ball, go back to the 3point line and set up your shot again.

Today their kid can set up a ball machine and take 100 3 point shots in 5 minutes.  So if you wanted to be skilled, you had to REALLY work hard.

So now when every team can shoot the 3 from every position, you can't just pack the paint, which opens driving lanes which causes more help defence...... that never existed in the 80s-90s because teams 1-5 weren't skilled enough to do that.  You had specialized players like Steve Kerr who could only shoot and that's it.

Now not being able to shoot becomes a huge liability because it allows teams to pack the paint.

On top of that the defence rules also changed so that zone and help defence are more legal.  You couldn't play a zone in the 90s because no one could shoot good enough to break it easily.  Not to mention you couldn't shadow double team like you can now.
 
2021-05-17 1:24:03 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Seems like everyone wants to call time-out on Webber


Username checks out.
 
2021-05-17 3:15:11 PM  

LL316: kdawg7736: fatalvenom: kdawg7736: pjbreeze: Bill Russell should have been in the HOF a long time ago

I thought he would have already have been YEARS ago.

David Stern decided that he was going to make it that the refs and owners would not let that happen.

He made sure that LeBron called the fouls.

Wait, Stern is dead? Whatever, the NBA sucks.

I last really watched it in the 1990s. Today it really isn't basketball and more glorified street ball. I remember playing basketball in grade school and junior high and the coaches tell us to not watch the NBA since they don't call walks and other rules we needed to follow.

I grew up on the 80's and 90's NBA.  Today's players would dominate them.  There is SO much more skill and athleticism.  Today's game has gotten boring because today's players are so good.  Steph's range is legitimately to half court.  Nobody can defend that.  Lillard's is just inside half court.  Durant is John Salley, but actually good at basketball (I loved Spider).  They're so freakishly good that unless you do something to the court and/or hoop, it's just going to get more and more boring.


Strongly agree with Lillard and Curry, but Durant wouldn't have lasted three seasons.  He'd have been broken in half by Anthony Mason, Charles Oakley, or Scottie Pippen.
 
2021-05-17 3:48:07 PM  

FLMountainMan: LL316: kdawg7736: fatalvenom: kdawg7736: pjbreeze: Bill Russell should have been in the HOF a long time ago

I thought he would have already have been YEARS ago.

David Stern decided that he was going to make it that the refs and owners would not let that happen.

He made sure that LeBron called the fouls.

Wait, Stern is dead? Whatever, the NBA sucks.

I last really watched it in the 1990s. Today it really isn't basketball and more glorified street ball. I remember playing basketball in grade school and junior high and the coaches tell us to not watch the NBA since they don't call walks and other rules we needed to follow.

I grew up on the 80's and 90's NBA.  Today's players would dominate them.  There is SO much more skill and athleticism.  Today's game has gotten boring because today's players are so good.  Steph's range is legitimately to half court.  Nobody can defend that.  Lillard's is just inside half court.  Durant is John Salley, but actually good at basketball (I loved Spider).  They're so freakishly good that unless you do something to the court and/or hoop, it's just going to get more and more boring.

Strongly agree with Lillard and Curry, but Durant wouldn't have lasted three seasons.  He'd have been broken in half by Anthony Mason, Charles Oakley, or Scottie Pippen.


Mason and Oakley, maybe.  But Pippen would be in the fetal position from migraines.  Which was his default position.
 
2021-05-17 4:43:55 PM  

151: Chris Webber getting in absolutely baffles me. Just... Why?


I guess once the NBA all but confirmed having cheated to keep him from getting his first NBA championship in 2002, they were obligated to give that Kings team something.
 
2021-05-17 6:27:24 PM  

LL316: I grew up on the 80's and 90's NBA.  Today's players would dominate them.  There is SO much more skill and athleticism


Eras.

Now, you don't have to worry about somebody giving you 30 stitches for trying a layup. Now, you have guys practicing the three, not working on mid-range jumpers.

I'd agree everyone is more athletic. Better at basketball? Meh. The 80s had better overall FG percentages (though there were fewer 3s and a far worse % from 3). Not everyone is Steph just like not everyone was Jordan.

ElwoodCuse: My god, just watch tape from back then, and see how leisurely and slow the games are


Apparently you're talking about the era where Detroit started winning titles.

Before that the league was scoring just as many points AND doing so by relying on 2 pointers. And you sure as fark didn't have so many 40-point blowouts because "oh the sport is too hard I need a day off for my pedicure."
 
2021-05-17 6:32:57 PM  
Bosh is a notch above Zach Randolph.


That's where he is.

Is Zach gonna be in the Hall of Fame I wonder.
 
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