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2021-05-16 12:56:30 AM  
Booo.....
 
2021-05-16 12:59:36 AM  
Hey so quick note, I saw Bon Jovi in... uh... 89? Skid Row opened and blew Bon Jovi away.

The End.
 
2021-05-16 1:00:14 AM  
You give love a bad name
 
2021-05-16 1:35:33 AM  
LA will forever be a flame attracting runaways like they are moths.

/you are not one in a million
//you are not a shooting star
 
2021-05-16 2:34:05 AM  

kdawg7736: Booo.....


18 and Life for subby!
 
2021-05-16 4:52:26 AM  
Cinderella story.
 
2021-05-16 4:53:36 AM  
I remember you.
 
2021-05-16 4:53:40 AM  

fragMasterFlash: LA will forever be a flame attracting runaways like they are moths.

/you are not one in a million
//you are not a shooting star


Daddy's girl learned fast
 
2021-05-16 4:56:15 AM  
Little Shop of Horrors Skid Row
Youtube z0kSBiu1IGk

Where depression's just status quo
Down on Skid Row
 
2021-05-16 4:59:57 AM  
"there's no housing"

*Observes the local military contractors bulldoze, level and cover a two-block chunk of what was desert a month ago with temp housing*

Dang, I wish there was something we could do about the homeless crisis.
 
2021-05-16 5:10:35 AM  

fragMasterFlash: LA will forever be a flame attracting runaways like they are moths.

/you are not one in a million
//you are not a shooting star


Yes, just like all the homeless in Portland and Seattle and Honolulu and Florida and Boston and every other place in the entire US that has a homeless crisis - they're all from out of town. Nice easy answer.

Housing has consistently been too expensive and getting worse for decades and you guys search for every other reason. They're druggies. They're from out of town. The good weather brings them (I heard this for Portland, like really? Portland has such great weather that homeless people congregate there? REALLY?).

The article actually goes into it a little. LA has a problem because more people are becoming homeless each week than are getting housed. People don't go to shelters because shelters SUCK. I worked with a homeless guy, he ended up in weekly hotels - we worked nights, and the shelter wasn't even open for him to sleep during the day. And they start charging per day after a couple weeks.

I am done with the bullshiat.
 
2021-05-16 5:17:00 AM  
Isn't there already a $1 billion Muni bond for homeless in Los Angeles but they can't figure out how we build units for under $400,000 each?

You'd think they'd partner with Ikea and make the little demo apartments they have a reality, at least for single people.

But then San Francisco was spending $5000/month/tent for parking lot space for tents last year.
 
2021-05-16 5:33:15 AM  

kdawg7736: Booo.....


Come on, man.  You saw what he did to Fairytale of New York.   Enough is enough.
 
2021-05-16 5:38:10 AM  
Funny you mention Bon Jovi in this context subby, as JBJ is helping the homeless.

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2021-05-16 5:46:47 AM  
Homelessness is a curse on rich countries that don't share wealth correctly and then blame the homeless for being poor.
I was unemployed in the UK during 1992-3 for 6 months, living in a dog turd of a private flat that the council paid most of the rent for, the last £18/ week came out of my dole money, leaving me with just £37 a week to live on. I could see why folk would live rough just to have an extra £20 a week to eat on and avoid other charges too.
I scraped up enough money to get to Holland and lived in a tent while working in a clothing factory as a metalworker hand fixing studs, eyelets and d rings to very unusual items of apparel. Then I got a caravan when winter closed in, the coldest winter I ever had, scraping ice off the inside of the windows.
It took me 6 months to find a place to live and it turned out the guy I was renting it off was illegally subletting it. I had to move on quick.
Cities have negative housing quantities because more people want to live in them than the local authorities will allow housing to be built for. Social housing is far too much like socialism for the rich buggers to stand for.
 
2021-05-16 5:47:55 AM  

educated: Hey so quick note, I saw Bon Jovi in... uh... 89? Skid Row opened and blew Bon Jovi away.

The End.


They were one of the loudest bands I ever saw and that was even after Yngwie Malmsteen left them.
 
2021-05-16 5:55:18 AM  
Don't you think they should take care of their Ratt problem first?
 
2021-05-16 5:57:20 AM  

Gpzjock: hand fixing studs


Go on.
 
2021-05-16 5:59:31 AM  
But those people are such a Motley Crue, aren't they?
 
2021-05-16 6:01:09 AM  

vrax: Gpzjock: hand fixing studs

Go on.


Small metal rivets with domed heads, varying in size from 6 mm to 20mm.

/These are not the studs you are looking for.
//https://www.demask.com/
///Definitely NSFW.
 
2021-05-16 6:03:51 AM  

FatherChaos: But those people are such a Motley Crue, aren't they?


Yeah, some them probably have a Warrant out for them.
 
2021-05-16 6:12:30 AM  

ansius: Funny you mention Bon Jovi in this context subby, as JBJ is helping the homeless.

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He could end world hunger tomorrow and it still wouldn't make Wanted Dead or Alive a good song.

Good on him for the charity work tho.
 
2021-05-16 6:16:06 AM  
A few years ago I missed the last commuter train one Satursay night in downtown LA and spent the night on Skid Row, near Union Station. It was very sketchy. My car was at the station in Anaheim, and I was living in it at the time.

That was a night of anxiety, I tell you.
 
2021-05-16 6:17:18 AM  
pay them to pick up their own garbage. problem solved.
 
2021-05-16 6:18:35 AM  
Bon Jovi is a completely professional entertainment juggernaut.  Even if you don't like Bon Jovi, you would probably enjoy a Bon Jovi concert.
 
2021-05-16 6:25:41 AM  
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2021-05-16 6:26:54 AM  

mrparks: "there's no housing"

*Observes the local military contractors bulldoze, level and cover a two-block chunk of what was desert a month ago with temp housing*

Dang, I wish there was something we could do about the homeless crisis.


How much desert is there in downtown Los Angeles?
 
2021-05-16 6:44:00 AM  
I heard the have a Ratt problem too....
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2021-05-16 6:44:57 AM  
"Judge David O. Carter detailed the homelessness crisis in Los Angeles and its disparate impacts on Black residents."

this seemed an odd comment to me
when I vacationed for a couple of weeks in Venice a couple years ago or when I've seen films of homeless in Los Angeles

sure looks to me like they're mostly white folks
 
2021-05-16 6:51:19 AM  
Nevermind I guess it's true in Skid Row they are disproportionately black

just looking around it didn't seem to me like a third of them were black butt whatever
 
2021-05-16 6:59:16 AM  

ansius: Funny you mention Bon Jovi in this context subby, as JBJ is helping the homeless.

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Came here to mention this. The restaurant's business model operates on a 'pay it forward' model, where if you can't afford a meal, there are volunteer opportunities available at the restaurant . It looks like (from their announcements page) for 13 weeks during the pandemic, they provided grab-and-go meals to those in need, serving a total of 7,800 meals to individuals, families, community partners, and front-line workers.

I've known about this restaurant since around the time of their opening (being in the food service industry), and have wanted to check it out.... but I'm on the opposite coast. Much respect to John!
 
2021-05-16 7:50:05 AM  

ansius: Funny you mention Bon Jovi in this context subby, as JBJ is helping the homeless.

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I live like 10 minutes from there.
We all rip on his music here but everyone knows he's a saint.
 
2021-05-16 7:50:28 AM  

adamatari: fragMasterFlash: LA will forever be a flame attracting runaways like they are moths.

/you are not one in a million
//you are not a shooting star

Yes, just like all the homeless in Portland and Seattle and Honolulu and Florida and Boston and every other place in the entire US that has a homeless crisis - they're all from out of town. Nice easy answer.

Housing has consistently been too expensive and getting worse for decades and you guys search for every other reason. They're druggies. They're from out of town. The good weather brings them (I heard this for Portland, like really? Portland has such great weather that homeless people congregate there? REALLY?).

The article actually goes into it a little. LA has a problem because more people are becoming homeless each week than are getting housed. People don't go to shelters because shelters SUCK. I worked with a homeless guy, he ended up in weekly hotels - we worked nights, and the shelter wasn't even open for him to sleep during the day. And they start charging per day after a couple weeks.

I am done with the bullshiat.


It's because of our toxic, capitalist culture.  Obeying the law - however trivial - and "earning one's own keep" along with "property rights' - i.e. "don't ask me to pay for anything for anyone else in the name of the Public Good, i.e. keeping the country nice in general - is all so much more important than actually solving a crisis or helping anyone in trouble.

What's a year's rent on a modest apartment in most major cities?  $12k?  $18k?  Could you perhaps do better with some intentional planning and forethought, plus government spending bulk discounts, contracts, etc.?  Probably.

66,000 times that number is roughly 1.1 billion, so I can see how he arrived at that figure.  Cities all around the world are figuring out that if you just put people in a clean, safe, dry space with a mailbox, power, and a toilet for a year, they can usually put their lives back together enough to cost you $0 thereafter, and, in fact, become taxpayers who pay back what you spent to put them there.

But no.  We'd rather put strict rules on shelters and create miniature dens of iniquity that are only good for temporary relief from bad weather and a place to sleep off the benders that make life tolerable on the street.  But look at how much we spend!  To give people a miserable experience that fixes nothing!  Reminds me of... well, just about everything in this country.  Spend more, get less, and don't complain or you're an America-hating communist.
 
2021-05-16 7:54:51 AM  
Yeah, this isn't going to work.

I chose to remain homeless rather than stay at a shelter for a dozen reasons.

*Ace Ventura deep breath*

My bridge was just a 20 minute walk from work. The city bus line doesn't run at 5 am, when I was required to check in at the temp agency I worked at. 20 minutes VS 2 hours' walk.

I wouldn't be eligible to get any sort of transportation assistance until I had "volunteered" to suck Jesus' dick for 3 months by "volunteering" in either the kitchen, Security, the retail store, or maintenance.

If I got a job with overnight hours, I would have to sleep in the common room, on the floor, with everyone watching TV (an evangelical channel ONLY)  because bunks are off-limits between 8a-7p.

There were curfews and you had to have a pass for work. They breathalyzed. I couldn't have a steak & baked potato and a Blue Moon with a friend ($10.99 at our local pub) to act like I had a normal social life and NOT seem homeless. No one but 3 people knew, and that was my mental safety net: No. One. Knew.

The only way to get ahead in the Mission was to suck Jesus' dick, quit your job, and devote 100% of your time to "volunteering". After 3 years you'd get a voucher for 3 months' rent in some Section 8 shiathole apartment full of bullet holes off the bus line next to the Correctional Facility. You'd get a $30 stipend if you came back to 'minister' to the other homeless people 8x per month

Fark. That. I chose insulated coveralls, a decent sleeping bag, camp in the lee of a bridge, rolling my own cigarettes, and a 1 gallon Igloo jug over religious slavery. And it worked for 2 years just peachy. Had someone stuffed me in a shelter I would've snapped and killed someone like a caged animal.
 
2021-05-16 8:22:57 AM  

qorkfiend: mrparks: "there's no housing"

*Observes the local military contractors bulldoze, level and cover a two-block chunk of what was desert a month ago with temp housing*

Dang, I wish there was something we could do about the homeless crisis.

How much desert is there in downtown Los Angeles?


Dang, foiled again. Guess we can't do anything at all.
 
2021-05-16 8:37:36 AM  
What could be more american than a city full of homeless people sleeping in the streets around big empty buildings.
 
2021-05-16 8:57:02 AM  
Homelessness seems like the cost of living in a big city that doesn't have actual winter. I have family on the west coast of Canada and some are regularly complaining about the homeless problem and even what is being done, and money being spent on helping people.

Meanwhile I live in Ontario and my city spends something like $70 million a year on snow clearing that their cities would never have to pay.
 
2021-05-16 8:58:40 AM  

mrparks: "there's no housing"

*Observes the local military contractors bulldoze, level and cover a two-block chunk of what was desert a month ago with temp housing*

Dang, I wish there was something we could do about the homeless crisis.


It's interesting that people believe that forcibly filing the homeless away in temporary shelters out in the desert is a "solution"
 
2021-05-16 9:05:56 AM  

FriarReb98: I heard the have a Ratt problem too....
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Better get some Poison...
 
2021-05-16 9:11:33 AM  

zepillin: "Judge David O. Carter detailed the homelessness crisis in Los Angeles and its disparate impacts on Black residents."

this seemed an odd comment to me
when I vacationed for a couple of weeks in Venice a couple years ago or when I've seen films of homeless in Los Angeles

sure looks to me like they're mostly white folks


If twice as many black residents than white residents are homeless, there are still 3-4 times more whites than blacks.
 
2021-05-16 9:18:34 AM  

stickmangrit: ansius: Funny you mention Bon Jovi in this context subby, as JBJ is helping the homeless.

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He could end world hunger tomorrow and it still wouldn't make Wanted Dead or Alive a good song.

Good on him for the charity work tho.


What? That song is epic. Die. A.H.
 
2021-05-16 9:19:06 AM  

ansius: Funny you mention Bon Jovi in this context subby, as JBJ is helping the homeless.

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He's a pretty awesome guy.
 
2021-05-16 9:25:23 AM  

mrparks: qorkfiend: mrparks: "there's no housing"

*Observes the local military contractors bulldoze, level and cover a two-block chunk of what was desert a month ago with temp housing*

Dang, I wish there was something we could do about the homeless crisis.

How much desert is there in downtown Los Angeles?

Dang, foiled again. Guess we can't do anything at all.


You've tried nothing and you're all out of ideas already? That's some serious lack of creativity.
 
2021-05-16 9:30:45 AM  

Robinfro: Yeah, this isn't going to work.

I chose to remain homeless rather than stay at a shelter for a dozen reasons.

*Ace Ventura deep breath*

My bridge was just a 20 minute walk from work. The city bus line doesn't run at 5 am, when I was required to check in at the temp agency I worked at. 20 minutes VS 2 hours' walk.

I wouldn't be eligible to get any sort of transportation assistance until I had "volunteered" to suck Jesus' dick for 3 months by "volunteering" in either the kitchen, Security, the retail store, or maintenance.

If I got a job with overnight hours, I would have to sleep in the common room, on the floor, with everyone watching TV (an evangelical channel ONLY)  because bunks are off-limits between 8a-7p.

There were curfews and you had to have a pass for work. They breathalyzed. I couldn't have a steak & baked potato and a Blue Moon with a friend ($10.99 at our local pub) to act like I had a normal social life and NOT seem homeless. No one but 3 people knew, and that was my mental safety net: No. One. Knew.

The only way to get ahead in the Mission was to suck Jesus' dick, quit your job, and devote 100% of your time to "volunteering". After 3 years you'd get a voucher for 3 months' rent in some Section 8 shiathole apartment full of bullet holes off the bus line next to the Correctional Facility. You'd get a $30 stipend if you came back to 'minister' to the other homeless people 8x per month

Fark. That. I chose insulated coveralls, a decent sleeping bag, camp in the lee of a bridge, rolling my own cigarettes, and a 1 gallon Igloo jug over religious slavery. And it worked for 2 years just peachy. Had someone stuffed me in a shelter I would've snapped and killed someone like a caged animal.


One reason I despise Christian "shelters", they're main purpose is to get more bodies in the church pews instead of actually helping people. I pray to Allah that my religion's shelters don't have the same unislamic goals of pushing our religion upon the desperate. I know the Jewish ones wouldn't.
 
2021-05-16 9:50:37 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Robinfro: Yeah, this isn't going to work.

I chose to remain homeless rather than stay at a shelter for a dozen reasons.

*Ace Ventura deep breath*

My bridge was just a 20 minute walk from work. The city bus line doesn't run at 5 am, when I was required to check in at the temp agency I worked at. 20 minutes VS 2 hours' walk.

I wouldn't be eligible to get any sort of transportation assistance until I had "volunteered" to suck Jesus' dick for 3 months by "volunteering" in either the kitchen, Security, the retail store, or maintenance.

If I got a job with overnight hours, I would have to sleep in the common room, on the floor, with everyone watching TV (an evangelical channel ONLY)  because bunks are off-limits between 8a-7p.

There were curfews and you had to have a pass for work. They breathalyzed. I couldn't have a steak & baked potato and a Blue Moon with a friend ($10.99 at our local pub) to act like I had a normal social life and NOT seem homeless. No one but 3 people knew, and that was my mental safety net: No. One. Knew.

The only way to get ahead in the Mission was to suck Jesus' dick, quit your job, and devote 100% of your time to "volunteering". After 3 years you'd get a voucher for 3 months' rent in some Section 8 shiathole apartment full of bullet holes off the bus line next to the Correctional Facility. You'd get a $30 stipend if you came back to 'minister' to the other homeless people 8x per month

Fark. That. I chose insulated coveralls, a decent sleeping bag, camp in the lee of a bridge, rolling my own cigarettes, and a 1 gallon Igloo jug over religious slavery. And it worked for 2 years just peachy. Had someone stuffed me in a shelter I would've snapped and killed someone like a caged animal.

One reason I despise Christian "shelters", they're main purpose is to get more bodies in the church pews instead of actually helping people. I pray to Allah that my religion's shelters don't have the same unislamic goals of pushing our religion upon the desperate. I know the Jewish ones wouldn't.


Oh well. Maybe if other groups stepped up and provided a plurality or majority of the sheltering, they could set the standards. Until they do, why should the people doing the actual work give a shiat about what other groups think of their model?
 
2021-05-16 9:53:24 AM  

adamatari: fragMasterFlash: LA will forever be a flame attracting runaways like they are moths.

/you are not one in a million
//you are not a shooting star

Yes, just like all the homeless in Portland and Seattle and Honolulu and Florida and Boston and every other place in the entire US that has a homeless crisis - they're all from out of town. Nice easy answer.

Housing has consistently been too expensive and getting worse for decades and you guys search for every other reason. They're druggies. They're from out of town. The good weather brings them (I heard this for Portland, like really? Portland has such great weather that homeless people congregate there? REALLY?).

The article actually goes into it a little. LA has a problem because more people are becoming homeless each week than are getting housed. People don't go to shelters because shelters SUCK. I worked with a homeless guy, he ended up in weekly hotels - we worked nights, and the shelter wasn't even open for him to sleep during the day. And they start charging per day after a couple weeks.

I am done with the bullshiat.


Unhoused people congregate in Portland because the state and local laws are comparably sympathetic to their plight.

There are plenty of local unhoused people, sure, but that's also a major factor. And other than the dead of winter, the weather here actually is pretty nice.
 
2021-05-16 9:55:58 AM  

Robinfro: Yeah, this isn't going to work.

I chose to remain homeless rather than stay at a shelter for a dozen reasons.

*Ace Ventura deep breath*

My bridge was just a 20 minute walk from work. The city bus line doesn't run at 5 am, when I was required to check in at the temp agency I worked at. 20 minutes VS 2 hours' walk.

I wouldn't be eligible to get any sort of transportation assistance until I had "volunteered" to suck Jesus' dick for 3 months by "volunteering" in either the kitchen, Security, the retail store, or maintenance.

If I got a job with overnight hours, I would have to sleep in the common room, on the floor, with everyone watching TV (an evangelical channel ONLY)  because bunks are off-limits between 8a-7p.

There were curfews and you had to have a pass for work. They breathalyzed. I couldn't have a steak & baked potato and a Blue Moon with a friend ($10.99 at our local pub) to act like I had a normal social life and NOT seem homeless. No one but 3 people knew, and that was my mental safety net: No. One. Knew.

The only way to get ahead in the Mission was to suck Jesus' dick, quit your job, and devote 100% of your time to "volunteering". After 3 years you'd get a voucher for 3 months' rent in some Section 8 shiathole apartment full of bullet holes off the bus line next to the Correctional Facility. You'd get a $30 stipend if you came back to 'minister' to the other homeless people 8x per month

Fark. That. I chose insulated coveralls, a decent sleeping bag, camp in the lee of a bridge, rolling my own cigarettes, and a 1 gallon Igloo jug over religious slavery. And it worked for 2 years just peachy. Had someone stuffed me in a shelter I would've snapped and killed someone like a caged animal.


Would a home have helped?
 
2021-05-16 10:14:40 AM  
Winger
 
2021-05-16 10:15:39 AM  

detonator: Winger


...and everybody else named Kip
 
2021-05-16 10:26:34 AM  

mrparks: "there's no housing"

*Observes the local military contractors bulldoze, level and cover a two-block chunk of what was desert a month ago with temp housing*

Dang, I wish there was something we could do about the homeless crisis.


Build internment camps?
 
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