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(Axios)   America's population is slow growing and that is a problem   (axios.com) divider line
    More: Obvious, Population, Demography, rate of population growth, progress of President Biden, Immigration to the United States, aging population, U.S. birth rate, Fewer people  
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2021-05-15 9:28:40 AM  
Well, not really.

Some of you weird assholes sure seem to think we need to eventually occupy every square inch of the Earth. All in the name of the dollar.

/If the US had the same population density of say, China.. We'd also have the same population density problems of say, China. BTW.
 
2021-05-15 10:00:07 AM  
Is it? Who says more people is always the answer?!
 
2021-05-15 10:02:33 AM  
I don't see a problem
 
2021-05-15 10:57:01 AM  
The problem is our economic system is a ponzi scheme and without a constant supply of fresh meat on the bottom it will collapse.
 
2021-05-15 10:59:41 AM  

Barfmaker: The problem is our economic system is a ponzi scheme and without a constant supply of fresh meat on the bottom it will collapse.


This guy gets it.
 
2021-05-15 11:41:05 AM  

Hoban Washburne: Barfmaker: The problem is our economic system is a ponzi scheme and without a constant supply of fresh meat on the bottom it will collapse.

This guy gets it.


Get back to work ya meatbags!

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2021-05-15 12:05:24 PM  

Hoban Washburne: Barfmaker: The problem is our economic system is a ponzi scheme and without a constant supply of fresh meat on the bottom it will collapse.

This guy gets it.


Well there is a problem if all of the manual labor pool is aged 45+ and we hadn't been replaced by our robot caretakers yet. 

// we weren't ALL meant to live to 75+
// sure we can fit more people but its not like the amount we have now isn't killing our ability to live on our own planet
// what happens when environmental concerns butt up against civil liberties?
// doesn't matter because you'll never, EVER get population control legislation passed outside of authoritarian places like china
 
2021-05-15 12:28:52 PM  
It was in the pool!
 
2021-05-15 12:28:55 PM  
Wasn't it the Musker who said something like only 1 in 10 people are actually needed to keep the economy going by 2050 or some such due to automation?

What to do with 9/10's of the population?
 
2021-05-15 12:31:09 PM  
America's population growth has been entirely dependent on immigration since the baby-bust of the 70s.
 
2021-05-15 12:31:21 PM  

goodncold: Wasn't it the Musker who said something like only 1 in 10 people are actually needed to keep the economy going by 2050 or some such due to automation?

What to do with 9/10's of the population?


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2021-05-15 12:31:28 PM  
Well, just let more people immigrate, then.
 
2021-05-15 12:32:29 PM  
Wait, so betting on endless growth was stupid?
 
2021-05-15 12:33:37 PM  
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2021-05-15 12:34:05 PM  
Natural increase of population consists of births - deaths + immigration. Xenophobes, racists, anti-immigrants and bigots manage to turn this simple linear arithmetic into a divide by zero error.

Nations, like individuals, have a "death wish". The Republicans represent the American Death Wish.
 
2021-05-15 12:34:12 PM  
Why not like we can afford anything anyway. Maybe it is time to start to think of a better way to run the economy instead of more more more and eternal growth. If we keep growing we better GTFO this rock or we will just drown in a sea of people.
 
2021-05-15 12:34:41 PM  

Colour_out_of_Space: goodncold: Wasn't it the Musker who said something like only 1 in 10 people are actually needed to keep the economy going by 2050 or some such due to automation?

What to do with 9/10's of the population?

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I hear Yellow is better.

Or is that Red?
 
2021-05-15 12:34:59 PM  
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2021-05-15 12:35:16 PM  
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the astronomical cost of having & raising kids in this country.
 
2021-05-15 12:35:28 PM  

tfresh: Well there is a problem if all of the manual labor pool is aged 45+ and we hadn't been replaced by our robot caretakers yet.


We need a viable third party that has robot caretakers as the largest plank in their campaign platform.
 
2021-05-15 12:36:03 PM  
We need more people. Eventually we will have so many people that one of them will think of a solution to the population problem smh
 
2021-05-15 12:36:21 PM  
The idea that any population decline is alway bad for the economy, and even the idea that the economy necessary needs annual growth at all, is outdated economics that needs to die together with the boomers that propagated it.
 
2021-05-15 12:36:57 PM  

Colour_out_of_Space: goodncold: Wasn't it the Musker who said something like only 1 in 10 people are actually needed to keep the economy going by 2050 or some such due to automation?

What to do with 9/10's of the population?

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Soylent Green:  The People Company!


That's my SG joke. I use it sparingly so it doesn't wear out so quickly. The Bushwazie really thinks like that. It is implicit in all advertising, politics, religion and other forms of propaganda and marketing.
 
2021-05-15 12:37:43 PM  

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That was probably the stupidest part of that movie. There are lots of organisms that over-consume resources.

Stupid program didn't know what he was talking about.
 
2021-05-15 12:40:12 PM  

brantgoose: Natural increase of population consists of births - deaths + immigration. Xenophobes, racists, anti-immigrants and bigots manage to turn this simple linear arithmetic into a divide by zero error.

Nations, like individuals, have a "death wish". The Republicans represent the American Death Wish.


Not to mention stagnating wages and exploding costs of health care, higher education and housing means that having children has become a very expensive prospect for many couples. If you want more people having kids, you're going to need to introduce some socialism to help make raising a family more doable for more people without the household incurring massive debt.
 
2021-05-15 12:40:20 PM  

Colour_out_of_Space: goodncold: Wasn't it the Musker who said something like only 1 in 10 people are actually needed to keep the economy going by 2050 or some such due to automation?

What to do with 9/10's of the population?

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2021-05-15 12:40:45 PM  
Being fruitful and multiplying was one of God's Biggest Boners.

You can read that in the old and modern sense of the word and it is true either way. I have a book of student boners illustrated by the Great and Good Dr. Seuss.
 
2021-05-15 12:40:54 PM  
I was told America was full.

What did Trump lie?
 
2021-05-15 12:41:45 PM  

Barfmaker: The problem is our economic system civilizationis a ponzi scheme and without a constant supply of fresh meat on the bottom it will collapse.


FTFY

Until someone figures out how to change that, populations will always have to grow.
 
2021-05-15 12:42:53 PM  

Vermithrax Perjorative: Barfmaker: The problem is our economic system civilizationis a ponzi scheme and without a constant supply of fresh meat on the bottom it will collapse.

FTFY

Until someone figures out how to change that, populations will always have to grow.


I'm pretty sure the main reason populations continue to grow is that people like to fark.
 
2021-05-15 12:43:03 PM  

Mad_Radhu: brantgoose: Natural increase of population consists of births - deaths + immigration. Xenophobes, racists, anti-immigrants and bigots manage to turn this simple linear arithmetic into a divide by zero error.

Nations, like individuals, have a "death wish". The Republicans represent the American Death Wish.

Not to mention stagnating wages and exploding costs of health care, higher education and housing means that having children has become a very expensive prospect for many couples. If you want more people having kids, you're going to need to introduce some socialism to help make raising a family more doable for more people without the household incurring massive debt.


If you put a bunch of spiders in a bottle or upper bourgeoisie in an economy, you end up with one big fat ugly spider or bourgeois. Pronounce:  bourrrrrrrrrrrrrgois. The ruthless eugenics is the point.
 
2021-05-15 12:43:56 PM  
Well, unlike the nihilists who post on this site, lots of people actually like being alive and don't want to go on the cart. And people tend to get pretty offended if someone they don't know decides for them whether or not they're of value. So unless everyone is going to work until death, someone has to put in the effort to keep them fed and housed.
 
2021-05-15 12:44:56 PM  
Sure, the population of humans may be slowing, but replacements are on the way.

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More people is just more people you have to give UBI to.
 
2021-05-15 12:45:07 PM  

goodncold: Wasn't it the Musker who said something like only 1 in 10 people are actually needed to keep the economy going by 2050 or some such due to automation?

What to do with 9/10's of the population?


Bread and Circuses. Netflix and Chill.
 
2021-05-15 12:46:22 PM  
... new ideas come from people, and fewer people means fewer sources for those new ideas. That leads to a slowdown in innovation at the very moment when we need it most, as Stanford economist Charles Jones argued in a recent paper.

While I'm pretty sure this will not be the stupidest thing I'll read all day, it's the stupidest thing I've read so far.

This might be a concern for a small business deciding whether to bring on a new employee, but we've got plenty of people to source new ideas if we would support them and help them to achieve their full potential.
 
2021-05-15 12:49:02 PM  
FTA: While a slower-growing population puts less pressure on the climate, new ideas come from people, and fewer people means fewer sources for those new ideas.
Oh, so 8 billion sources of ideas isn't enough. Solid logic nerd.
 
2021-05-15 12:49:29 PM  

g.fro: Vermithrax Perjorative: Barfmaker: The problem is our economic system civilizationis a ponzi scheme and without a constant supply of fresh meat on the bottom it will collapse.

FTFY

Until someone figures out how to change that, populations will always have to grow.

I'm pretty sure the main reason populations continue to grow is that people like to fark.


People liked to fark during the black plague.

The crazy growth in the 20th Century is due to modern nutrition and medicine getting a much much larger percentage of people to child bearing and old age.

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2021-05-15 12:50:24 PM  
There are too many of us.

National Security Study Memorandum 200 (1974)
 
2021-05-15 12:50:28 PM  

Mad_Radhu: brantgoose: Natural increase of population consists of births - deaths + immigration. Xenophobes, racists, anti-immigrants and bigots manage to turn this simple linear arithmetic into a divide by zero error.

Nations, like individuals, have a "death wish". The Republicans represent the American Death Wish.

Not to mention stagnating wages and exploding costs of health care, higher education and housing means that having children has become a very expensive prospect for many couples. If you want more people having kids, you're going to need to introduce some socialism to help make raising a family more doable for more people without the household incurring massive debt.


This.
Socialism is exactly why boomrs were able to afford their lifestyles.
 
2021-05-15 12:50:50 PM  

goodncold: Wasn't it the Musker who said something like only 1 in 10 people are actually needed to keep the economy going by 2050 or some such due to automation?

What to do with 9/10's of the population?


How about everybody only works 4 hours a week?
 
2021-05-15 12:51:37 PM  
It's only a problem if you run your economy like a Ponzi sch...

We're farked.
 
2021-05-15 12:53:30 PM  

Vermithrax Perjorative: Barfmaker: The problem is our economic system civilizationis a ponzi scheme and without a constant supply of fresh meat on the bottom it will collapse.

FTFY

Until someone figures out how to change that, populations will always have to grow.


It used to be that wars, disease, and famines did a great job when we got too big for our britches.
 
2021-05-15 12:58:06 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Vermithrax Perjorative: Barfmaker: The problem is our economic system civilizationis a ponzi scheme and without a constant supply of fresh meat on the bottom it will collapse.

FTFY

Until someone figures out how to change that, populations will always have to grow.

It used to be that wars, disease, and famines did a great job when we got too big for our britches.


Used to?
 
2021-05-15 12:58:12 PM  
Don't worry; we'll just so what America has always done and bring in immigrants who will......

Oh. Yeah.
 
2021-05-15 1:02:14 PM  
America First!

/jk
 
2021-05-15 1:03:00 PM  

tfresh: Hoban Washburne: Barfmaker: The problem is our economic system is a ponzi scheme and without a constant supply of fresh meat on the bottom it will collapse.

This guy gets it.

Well there is a problem if all of the manual labor pool is aged 45+ and we hadn't been replaced by our robot caretakers yet. 

// we weren't ALL meant to live to 75+
// sure we can fit more people but its not like the amount we have now isn't killing our ability to live on our own planet
// what happens when environmental concerns butt up against civil liberties?
// doesn't matter because you'll never, EVER get population control legislation passed outside of authoritarian places like china


Immigration supplies young workers pretty well.
 
2021-05-15 1:05:11 PM  

X-Geek: ... new ideas come from people, and fewer people means fewer sources for those new ideas. That leads to a slowdown in innovation at the very moment when we need it most, as Stanford economist Charles Jones argued in a recent paper.

While I'm pretty sure this will not be the stupidest thing I'll read all day, it's the stupidest thing I've read so far.

This might be a concern for a small business deciding whether to bring on a new employee, but we've got plenty of people to source new ideas if we would support them and help them to achieve their full potential.


Exactly. It's a funny way of saying "I need more things to get rich from"
 
2021-05-15 1:05:56 PM  
This load of crap again.

I'd be pissed off to read this filth in normal times, but during a global pandemic this shiat just sets me off.

At our current rate, we add 1 BILLION people to this planet every 12 Years. We're already screwing with our planet's finite resources and delicate environment with the people we have and you want to add MORE?! Even the people we've lost to COVID19 will be a drop in the bucket compared to new people born in the coming years.

"The big picture:Fewer people means fewer workers to support an aging population, fewer innovators with new ideas, less economic growth - and more of one thing: political fights over a shrinking pie."

Fark you a hole. It's never been about quantity, it's a bout quality. These last four years has shown that there exists a substantial part of human population that are stupid as rocks and don't have anything to contribute to society that a machine can't do. We need to have less children. The less children we have, the more resources we can put into their education, upbringing and livelihoods so we actually have a pool of smart people making the world a better place than a bunch of stupid as fark folks that think drinking bleach will cure a virus and bring the rest of us down.

Don't think I don't smell what this article actually is cooking up. I know this playbook well by now.
 
2021-05-15 1:06:17 PM  

Hoban Washburne: Barfmaker: The problem is our economic system is a ponzi scheme and without a constant supply of fresh meat on the bottom it will collapse.

This guy gets it.


You know peasents might demand more rights. Also the capitalists will just ease immigration.
 
2021-05-15 1:06:29 PM  
I'm sure it has NOTHING to do with stagnant wages and people of my generation waiting due being financially pushed back due to three major recessions within our lifetime.
 
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