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2021-05-15 8:05:49 AM  
Nintendo was a playing card manufacturer.
Lamborghini was a tractor manufacturer.
American Express began as an express delivery service.
Samsung started out as a grocery store
Shell started out as an antiques trader, specializing in Oriental shells.
3M stands for Minnesota Mining & Manufacturing, as they started as a mining company.
Raytheon started out as an appliance manufacturer
Nokia started as a papermill

NASCAR was founded by bootleggers who had nothing better to do with their rides. (Actually, I guess that one makes perfect sense)

/Not subby
 
2021-05-15 8:37:42 AM  
Dave, Cat, Krtyten and I are all sorely disappointed it's not this toaster company.

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2021-05-15 8:46:11 AM  

Driedsponge: Nintendo was a playing card manufacturer.
Lamborghini was a tractor manufacturer.
American Express began as an express delivery service.
Samsung started out as a grocery store
Shell started out as an antiques trader, specializing in Oriental shells.
3M stands for Minnesota Mining & Manufacturing, as they started as a mining company.
Raytheon started out as an appliance manufacturer
Nokia started as a papermill


IBM started out making meat packing scales.
 
2021-05-15 8:50:34 AM  

Winterlight: Driedsponge: Nintendo was a playing card manufacturer.
Lamborghini was a tractor manufacturer.
American Express began as an express delivery service.
Samsung started out as a grocery store
Shell started out as an antiques trader, specializing in Oriental shells.
3M stands for Minnesota Mining & Manufacturing, as they started as a mining company.
Raytheon started out as an appliance manufacturer
Nokia started as a papermill

IBM started out making meat packing scales.


Google was a search engine.
 
2021-05-15 8:59:27 AM  

BafflerMeal: Winterlight: Driedsponge: Nintendo was a playing card manufacturer.
Lamborghini was a tractor manufacturer.
American Express began as an express delivery service.
Samsung started out as a grocery store
Shell started out as an antiques trader, specializing in Oriental shells.
3M stands for Minnesota Mining & Manufacturing, as they started as a mining company.
Raytheon started out as an appliance manufacturer
Nokia started as a papermill

IBM started out making meat packing scales.

Google was a search engine.


Google started out as a company with supposedly good intentions.
 
2021-05-15 9:14:19 AM  

dbirchall: Dave, Cat, Krtyten and I are all sorely disappointed it's not this toaster company.

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2021-05-15 9:15:39 AM  
Is this a legit thing, or did some vulture capitalist sucker them into making product with "promises" of great returns?
 
2021-05-15 9:19:00 AM  

Psychopompous: dbirchall: Dave, Cat, Krtyten and I are all sorely disappointed it's not this toaster company.

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Or, for those who dig that whole "retro" vibe...
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In all seriousness, I do think an Alexa enabled toaster would be pretty cool.
 
2021-05-15 9:23:31 AM  
if rappers can do it, why can't toasters?
 
2021-05-15 9:34:07 AM  

Driedsponge: Nintendo was a playing card manufacturer.
Lamborghini was a tractor manufacturer.
American Express began as an express delivery service.
Samsung started out as a grocery store
Shell started out as an antiques trader, specializing in Oriental shells.
3M stands for Minnesota Mining & Manufacturing, as they started as a mining company.
Raytheon started out as an appliance manufacturer
Nokia started as a papermill

NASCAR was founded by bootleggers who had nothing better to do with their rides. (Actually, I guess that one makes perfect sense)

/Not subby


Hitachi makes trains, wind turbines, mining equipment and personal 'massagers'.
 
2021-05-15 9:41:36 AM  
I think they should figure out how to make a good toaster first before moving on to other things. 350 bucks for something that takes 5 or 6 minutes to make toast is junk.

To be fair, I don't think anybody makes a good toaster anymore where it actually senses the bread surface to determine when to end the cycle. As far as I can tell, they all have cheaped out and use time instead. If anybody knows of a good non-time based toaster, I'd go buy it today. You can pick up a Sunbeam from the 80's on Ebay but I want one that I know works or can be warrantied if not.

I've actually got a picture of a Sunbeam model 20030 in my glovebox and I stop by estate sales that I come upon and see if there's one there.
 
2021-05-15 9:41:43 AM  
Western Electric made telephones back in the mechanical switch days - and also made household appliances.
 
2021-05-15 9:44:15 AM  
Well, after the Samsung Note 7, turnabout is fair play...
 
2021-05-15 9:55:22 AM  

Benjimin_Dover: I think they should figure out how to make a good toaster first before moving on to other things. 350 bucks for something that takes 5 or 6 minutes to make toast is junk.

To be fair, I don't think anybody makes a good toaster anymore where it actually senses the bread surface to determine when to end the cycle. As far as I can tell, they all have cheaped out and use time instead. If anybody knows of a good non-time based toaster, I'd go buy it today. You can pick up a Sunbeam from the 80's on Ebay but I want one that I know works or can be warrantied if not.

I've actually got a picture of a Sunbeam model 20030 in my glovebox and I stop by estate sales that I come upon and see if there's one there.


How to design an actually good toaster with lessons from the 1940's
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I'll eventually buy one from Ebay, some time my wallet is fat and I'm feeling drunk and impulsive on the internet. If it breaks, I would rather go down to the retirement village and find a retired appliance repairman, than try to deal with a modern, planned to be obsolete, spend time trying to redeem a warranty, toaster.

Although, I will admit I also want to own a Smeggin' Toaster (pictured above in the thread,)
 
2021-05-15 10:02:10 AM  

dbirchall: Dave, Cat, Krtyten and I are all sorely disappointed it's not this toaster company.

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We just got one of those, it does a ridiculously good job of making toast.
 
2021-05-15 10:26:59 AM  
I used to work for a company that made early model RAID disk arrays. Surprisingly, the RAID controller was made by NCR, the National Cash Register company. How they got in that business I have no idea. Oh, and in 1993, it was $33000 for 16GB. lol
 
2021-05-15 10:31:52 AM  

Benjimin_Dover: I think they should figure out how to make a good toaster first before moving on to other things. 350 bucks for something that takes 5 or 6 minutes to make toast is junk.

To be fair, I don't think anybody makes a good toaster anymore where it actually senses the bread surface to determine when to end the cycle. As far as I can tell, they all have cheaped out and use time instead. If anybody knows of a good non-time based toaster, I'd go buy it today. You can pick up a Sunbeam from the 80's on Ebay but I want one that I know works or can be warrantied if not.

I've actually got a picture of a Sunbeam model 20030 in my glovebox and I stop by estate sales that I come upon and see if there's one there.


I've found two things that I buy the cheapest as possible; Box fans and toasters.

box fans, because the cheap ones are louder and the louder, the easier i fall asleep.

Toasters, because i like borderline burnt toast.  Cheap toasters are great at getting the toast burnt on a high setting.
 
2021-05-15 10:54:45 AM  
Meanwhile, LG, who does make appliances, quit the phone business. Circle of life.
 
2021-05-15 11:06:25 AM  
Maybe this toaster company will get the idea of being able to eject and replace the phone battery when the battery gets too old
 
2021-05-15 11:17:26 AM  
Forgot one:. Westinghouse Electric spawned not only the tvs and other appliances, but it's also the founder of CBS and Westinghouse nuclear.
 
2021-05-15 11:30:58 AM  
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2021-05-15 11:48:20 AM  
A rubber company is releasing a restaurant guide. That's gonna go nowhere.
 
2021-05-15 12:00:45 PM  
Adama seen launching his alert fighters
 
2021-05-15 12:24:26 PM  
Sony got into lithium-ion battery production because it was a good use for idle machines that used to make cassette tape.
 
2021-05-15 12:56:31 PM  
the future sounds awesome!

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2021-05-15 1:04:08 PM  
PhoenixFarker: dbirchall: Dave, Cat, Krtyten and I are all sorely disappointed it's not this toaster company.

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We just got one of those, it does a smeggin' ridiculously good job of making smeggin' toast.

FTFY.
 
2021-05-15 2:03:45 PM  
Butch's HVAC started out sharpening mower blades.
 
2021-05-15 3:14:31 PM  
A humidifying toaster? That's like the opposite of how I want my toast. I toast because I want hot, dry, and crunchy. If I wanted cool, moist and soft, I'd just eat the goddamn bread.
 
2021-05-15 3:15:14 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: Driedsponge: Nintendo was a playing card manufacturer.
Lamborghini was a tractor manufacturer.
American Express began as an express delivery service.
Samsung started out as a grocery store
Shell started out as an antiques trader, specializing in Oriental shells.
3M stands for Minnesota Mining & Manufacturing, as they started as a mining company.
Raytheon started out as an appliance manufacturer
Nokia started as a papermill

NASCAR was founded by bootleggers who had nothing better to do with their rides. (Actually, I guess that one makes perfect sense)

/Not subby

Hitachi makes trains, wind turbines, mining equipment and personal 'massagers'.


Hitachi also makes construction equipment, which I guess has a lot of overlap with mining equipment.

/And an excavator can double as a personal massager with the right attachment...
 
2021-05-15 3:16:02 PM  

dbirchall: Dave, Cat, Krtyten and I are all sorely disappointed it's not this toaster company.

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Only if it's called the Multifunction Android, or the Smeg MA.
 
2021-05-15 3:17:30 PM  

BretMavrik: Sony got into lithium-ion battery production because it was a good use for idle machines that used to make cassette tape.


Fuji got into pharmaceuticals and medical development because some of the same processes for creating film could be easily used for some of the chemical process for medicine and imaging equipment.  It's credited as one of the largest driving factors of why Fuji thrived while Kodak floundered.
 
2021-05-15 3:40:11 PM  

Cthushi: Maybe this toaster company will get the idea of being able to eject and replace the phone battery when the battery gets too old


How often does that need to happen? Every four or five years? Just take your phone to the store at the mall and have them do it. In return for this horrible inconvenience you get a phone that is slimmer and better protected against dust, water, and impacts.
 
2021-05-15 4:42:10 PM  
 
2021-05-15 4:46:00 PM  
These two products were both made by the same company.

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2021-05-15 5:08:57 PM  

Gordon Bennett: These two products were both made by the same company.

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It's also possible to learn the violin while riding a motorcycle using the Suzuki method.
 
2021-05-15 5:09:00 PM  

Driedsponge: BretMavrik: Sony got into lithium-ion battery production because it was a good use for idle machines that used to make cassette tape.

Fuji got into pharmaceuticals and medical development because some of the same processes for creating film could be easily used for some of the chemical process for medicine and imaging equipment.  It's credited as one of the largest driving factors of why Fuji thrived while Kodak floundered.


Kodak is now going down that road.
 
2021-05-15 5:12:44 PM  

NoGodsButtMan: Driedsponge: BretMavrik: Sony got into lithium-ion battery production because it was a good use for idle machines that used to make cassette tape.

Fuji got into pharmaceuticals and medical development because some of the same processes for creating film could be easily used for some of the chemical process for medicine and imaging equipment.  It's credited as one of the largest driving factors of why Fuji thrived while Kodak floundered.

Kodak is now going down that road.


yeah, only about 10 years too late.  There was rumors last year that they were going to start converting some of their Rochester facility into battery manufacturing, since the place is set up to handle a lot of the required chemicals, but I'm not sure that really ever got farther than a press release.
 
2021-05-15 5:19:08 PM  
The bonus is that if you put your phone in the toaster it fast charges it.
 
2021-05-15 5:33:26 PM  

Craw Fu: The bonus is that if you put your phone in the toaster it fast charges it.


(gigles)
 
2021-05-15 5:34:29 PM  

Marksrevenge: Cthushi: Maybe this toaster company will get the idea of being able to eject and replace the phone battery when the battery gets too old

How often does that need to happen? Every four or five years? Just take your phone to the store at the mall and have them do it. In return for this horrible inconvenience you get a phone that is slimmer and better protected against dust, water, and impacts.


Hah. You know, I tried to get a case for my phone. Sorry, it just came out, no cases for it for a couple weeks. I'm a truck driver. When my phone drops, I'm on a dock trying to juggle several things. It will impact metal. It will impact concrete. My screen shattered the third time I dropped it. It's basically a weekly occurrence for me because I have to be on the phone with Safety and taking pictures as I secure the load. It's all high value CNC and medical equipment and stuff like that. Stuff that is often delicate and you have to carefully make sure the straps don't damage it nor will they slip around anything sensitive.

Take an old Motorola, put on a camera feature, and maybe you can say that a phone is rugged and durable. Nothing today at Best Buy can earn that description though. Saying that removable batteries weakens them is ridiculous when in fact they are very delicate compared to previous generations. Blue on black at this point. They won't survive an industrial environment, and that is the only meaningful test, imo. I used to have a phone-- not Motorola, a Sanyo-- that a semi ran over without damaging it. All five axles. I even had him brake on it. I worked at Radio Shack back then. Sold the hell out of that model while it was available.

The real reason for permanently installed batteries is so that you can't turn your phone off so that it can't be tracked without removing it. They want your location data, so they make it so that it can always be located even when "off." I blame Peter Thiel and his spy company because fark him, but China has a big influence in this as well. They directly track their citizens through cell phone data collection. Law enforcement around the world does the same to locate suspects. If you can easily pull out the battery you can still use it exactly when you need to and not reveal your overall movements. That is a threat to governments.

And they don't even really have to put pressure on manufacturers and designers because it results in tiny apparent benefits. But it is one more noose around society regardless as protestors are now routinely tracked for gotcha moments.
 
2021-05-15 5:43:13 PM  
It's enlisted the help of industry-veterans, Kyocera, to manufacture the 5G device.

Good choice, because when anyone thinks, "Smartphone" they think, "Kyocera"

Whoops? Did I say smartphone? I meant printer.
 
2021-05-15 6:48:45 PM  

NoGodsButtMan: Marksrevenge: Cthushi: Maybe this toaster company will get the idea of being able to eject and replace the phone battery when the battery gets too old

How often does that need to happen? Every four or five years? Just take your phone to the store at the mall and have them do it. In return for this horrible inconvenience you get a phone that is slimmer and better protected against dust, water, and impacts.

Hah. You know, I tried to get a case for my phone. Sorry, it just came out, no cases for it for a couple weeks. I'm a truck driver. When my phone drops, I'm on a dock trying to juggle several things. It will impact metal. It will impact concrete. My screen shattered the third time I dropped it. It's basically a weekly occurrence for me because I have to be on the phone with Safety and taking pictures as I secure the load. It's all high value CNC and medical equipment and stuff like that. Stuff that is often delicate and you have to carefully make sure the straps don't damage it nor will they slip around anything sensitive.

Take an old Motorola, put on a camera feature, and maybe you can say that a phone is rugged and durable. Nothing today at Best Buy can earn that description though. Saying that removable batteries weakens them is ridiculous when in fact they are very delicate compared to previous generations. Blue on black at this point. They won't survive an industrial environment, and that is the only meaningful test, imo. I used to have a phone-- not Motorola, a Sanyo-- that a semi ran over without damaging it. All five axles. I even had him brake on it. I worked at Radio Shack back then. Sold the hell out of that model while it was available.

The real reason for permanently installed batteries is so that you can't turn your phone off so that it can't be tracked without removing it. They want your location data, so they make it so that it can always be located even when "off." I blame Peter Thiel and his spy company because fark him, but China has a big in ...


Its why I miss the samsung rugby.  That thing was a durable freaking phone.
 
2021-05-15 8:03:44 PM  

Psychopompous: Benjimin_Dover: I think they should figure out how to make a good toaster first before moving on to other things. 350 bucks for something that takes 5 or 6 minutes to make toast is junk.

To be fair, I don't think anybody makes a good toaster anymore where it actually senses the bread surface to determine when to end the cycle. As far as I can tell, they all have cheaped out and use time instead. If anybody knows of a good non-time based toaster, I'd go buy it today. You can pick up a Sunbeam from the 80's on Ebay but I want one that I know works or can be warrantied if not.

I've actually got a picture of a Sunbeam model 20030 in my glovebox and I stop by estate sales that I come upon and see if there's one there.

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I'll eventually buy one from Ebay, some time my wallet is fat and I'm feeling drunk and impulsive on the internet. If it breaks, I would rather go down to the retirement village and find a retired appliance repairman, than try to deal with a modern, planned to be obsolete, spend time trying to redeem a warranty, toaster.

Although, I will admit I also want to own a Smeggin' Toaster (pictured above in the thread,)


So, this thread has gotten me back on the hunt for a toaster that doesn't suck giant asshole. I found this guy who restores the Sunbeams. Hmmmm.

https://www.timstoasters.com/
 
2021-05-15 9:28:54 PM  

NoGodsButtMan: The real reason for permanently installed batteries is so that you can't turn your phone off so that it can't be tracked without removing it. They want your location data, so they make it so that it can always be located even when "off." I blame Peter Thiel and his spy company because fark him, but China has a big influence in this as well. They directly track their citizens through cell phone data collection. Law enforcement around the world does the same to locate suspects. If you can easily pull out the battery you can still use it exactly when you need to and not reveal your overall movements. That is a threat to governments.


Maybe leave your phone at home if you're going to be engaging in state espionage activities; you can check Facebook when you get back.
 
2021-05-15 9:38:03 PM  

Marksrevenge: Cthushi: Maybe this toaster company will get the idea of being able to eject and replace the phone battery when the battery gets too old

How often does that need to happen? Every four or five years? Just take your phone to the store at the mall and have them do it. In return for this horrible inconvenience you get a phone that is slimmer and better protected against dust, water, and impacts.


One of the reasons I held on to my Galaxy S5 so long is I could quickly replace a discharged battery with a fresh one. I don't use my A71's quick charger because the battery gets so hot, meaning charging remains a multi-hour process.
 
2021-05-15 9:44:31 PM  

NoGodsButtMan: The real reason for permanently installed batteries is so that you can't turn your phone off so that it can't be tracked without removing it. They want your location data, so they make it so that it can always be located even when "off." I blame Peter Thiel and his spy company because fark him, but China has a big influence in this as well. They directly track their citizens through cell phone data collection. Law enforcement around the world does the same to locate suspects. If you can easily pull out the battery you can still use it exactly when you need to and not reveal your overall movements. That is a threat to governments.


Looks like we found John Fitzgerald Byers' username.

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2021-05-15 11:22:06 PM  
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