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2021-05-15 9:09:04 AM  
Just remember, if YOU do that, it's called murder.
 
2021-05-15 10:05:54 AM  
In the meantime, if you're white, you can shoot at police and be taken alive into custody.
 
2021-05-15 10:07:08 AM  
"The county coroner's office said an autopsy showed the cause of death as "excited state with adverse pharmacotherapeutic effect during subdual process,"

See, it's ok, he just died of being excited at getting tased!

/ACAB
 
2021-05-15 10:09:10 AM  
Between that and the South Carolina police chase ending in an explosion because the trunk was full of hoarded gas in bags... I'm very proud of my home state at the moment.
 
2021-05-15 10:10:58 AM  
NBC News: "Tased repeatedly before dying"

What really happened: "Tortured to death."
 
2021-05-15 10:12:28 AM  
Jesus Farking Christ Repeatedly tasering a man whom they knew to be extremely ill and who, being in a cell, posed no threat whatsoever. Surely that has to be murder?
 
2021-05-15 10:13:35 AM  

orbister: Jesus Farking Christ Repeatedly tasering a man whom they knew to be extremely ill and who, being in a cell, posed no threat whatsoever. Surely that has to be murder?


Dude.  The victim was black.
 
2021-05-15 10:13:57 AM  
I predict that police will have the public turn on them and every action with the public will be just like playing Russian roulette for them.

They are not getting it so the tide is going to turn.
 
2021-05-15 10:14:19 AM  

dukeblue219: Between that and the South Carolina police chase ending in an explosion because the trunk was full of hoarded gas in bags... I'm very proud of my home state at the moment.


Darwin awoke from his year long slumber to see that he really has some catching up to do.  To many people dying from causes wholly unrelated to their incredible stupidity.  Time to balance the scales a bit.
 
2021-05-15 10:15:08 AM  
STOP MURDERING BLACK PEOPLE, YOU COCKS!

/that is all
 
2021-05-15 10:16:02 AM  
Behind the Bastards covers the "Excited Delirium" bullshiat these pigs are clearly gonna try and push for.

They murdered him. Plain and simple.
 
2021-05-15 10:16:08 AM  

orbister: Jesus Farking Christ Repeatedly tasering a man whom they knew to be extremely ill and who, being in a cell, posed no threat whatsoever. Surely that has to be murder?


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2021-05-15 10:16:26 AM  

yagottabefarkinkiddinme: I predict that police will have the public turn on them and every action with the public will be just like playing Russian roulette for them.

They are not getting it so the tide is going to turn.


I've been saying for years now that the only logical conclusion to this, if nothing else changes, is that police just start getting proactively shot during routine traffic stops.  Now, considering they approach every traffic stop *today* as if this is a common, or even inevitable outcome, I doubt they'll notice the difference.  Things will just keep escalating into all out war until and unless the police start policing themselves *harder* than the police their patrons.
 
2021-05-15 10:16:37 AM  

kpaxoid: orbister: Jesus Farking Christ Repeatedly tasering a man whom they knew to be extremely ill and who, being in a cell, posed no threat whatsoever. Surely that has to be murder?

Dude.  The victim was black.


Sorry I do believe the term they use is assailant
 
2021-05-15 10:17:10 AM  
I used to be interested in moving to South Carolina until I heard it was just like florida.
 
2021-05-15 10:21:26 AM  
North Carolina is the Best Carolina.

It seems to be a universal law that North anything is better than South anything, except for North Dakota
 
2021-05-15 10:22:27 AM  

BeesNuts: yagottabefarkinkiddinme: I predict that police will have the public turn on them and every action with the public will be just like playing Russian roulette for them.

They are not getting it so the tide is going to turn.

I've been saying for years now that the only logical conclusion to this, if nothing else changes, is that police just start getting proactively shot during routine traffic stops.  Now, considering they approach every traffic stop *today* as if this is a common, or even inevitable outcome, I doubt they'll notice the difference.  Things will just keep escalating into all out war until and unless the police start policing themselves *harder* than the police their patrons.


See all of those very well disciplined, very well armed and peaceful American people of color?

How much more do you think they are going to accept with regards to law enforcement killing them?

And when the tide turns and cops really have reason to fear for their lives they have no one to blame but themselves.
 
2021-05-15 10:22:42 AM  
The police are not your friends, protect and serve is a motto, nothing more. The police are not there to do either and have no legal obligation to do such. Their training and practices highlight their own safety and survival above and beyond anyone else's. Do not ever make the mistake of thinking the Police care, or have a reason to care, about your safety or anyone else's.
 
2021-05-15 10:24:23 AM  
This unfortunate tragedy has revealed an opportunity to review existing policies

Okay, maybe I'm being a little harsh, but I feel that anyone who can release a statement like this with a straight face just needs to be viciously beaten to death, in public.

pour encourager les autres
 
2021-05-15 10:24:40 AM  
Puzzled by the headline. Do black lives matter even less in South Carolina?
It's awful weird, because last year, this whole thing popped off from Minnesota being Minnesota. Does subby think cops are not racist in other states? Because I've got a list at the ready of black people killed by cops across the damn nation.
 
2021-05-15 10:26:36 AM  

brantgoose: North Carolina is the Best Carolina.

It seems to be a universal law that North anything is better than South anything, except for North Dakota


Protests going on in NC right now because cops shot someone in Elizabeth City.
In fact, a state judge on the court of appeals was arrested and charged with assault because he tried to mow down protesters in Fayetteville.
 
2021-05-15 10:28:19 AM  

brantgoose: North Carolina is the Best Carolina.

It seems to be a universal law that North anything is better than South anything, except for North Dakota


North Jersey *cough*
 
2021-05-15 10:30:01 AM  
Where's the grinning farking asshole who's going to come in here and say the victim had it coming because he was naturally resisting arrest due to being black?

Grinning asshole has confirmed he believes  exactly that in multiple forums
 
2021-05-15 10:30:43 AM  
Time to charge pigs with murder 1, and put them in gen pop for the rest of their short lives
 
2021-05-15 10:33:33 AM  
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2021-05-15 10:34:31 AM  

moothemagiccow: brantgoose: North Carolina is the Best Carolina.

It seems to be a universal law that North anything is better than South anything, except for North Dakota

Protests going on in NC right now because cops shot someone in Elizabeth City.
In fact, a state judge on the court of appeals was arrested and charged with assault because he tried to mow down protesters in Fayetteville.


Wait, what? A freaking judge who made it as high as the court of appeals somehow thought that trying to kill people using their first amendment rights was ok! How the fark have Republican minds been so warped where that's even a possibility? I don't get this country anymore.
 
2021-05-15 10:35:47 AM  

edmo: Just remember, if YOU do that, it's called murder.


I thought it was interesting this week when the video of the capitol police officer Michael Fanone being attacked by the mob, his letter to congress referred to his having been "electrocuted" by his Taser repeatedly. That is NEVER the language when the taser is pointed the other way, and I'm sure he's heard from Taser/Axon about his phrasing.
 
2021-05-15 10:37:46 AM  

moothemagiccow: brantgoose: North Carolina is the Best Carolina.

It seems to be a universal law that North anything is better than South anything, except for North Dakota

Protests going on in NC right now because cops shot someone in Elizabeth City.
In fact, a state judge on the court of appeals was arrested and charged with assault because he tried to mow down protesters in Fayetteville.


What?

Dammmm
 
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2021-05-15 10:42:25 AM  

ThereBeNoShelterHere: edmo: Just remember, if YOU do that, it's called murder.

I thought it was interesting this week when the video of the capitol police officer Michael Fanone being attacked by the mob, his letter to congress referred to his having been "electrocuted" by his Taser repeatedly. That is NEVER the language when the taser is pointed the other way, and I'm sure he's heard from Taser/Axon about his phrasing.


I love when people say they were electrocuted. I point at them, scream "ZOMBIIIIIE!!!", and fake-run away. And they are dumbfounded.
 
2021-05-15 10:44:40 AM  
See, I thought that if you were in jail and they tried to electrocute you 3 times and you lived, they let you go, no?
 
2021-05-15 10:45:11 AM  

brantgoose: North Carolina is the Best Carolina.

It seems to be a universal law that North anything is better than South anything, except for North Dakota


Korea, too?
 
2021-05-15 10:52:38 AM  

robodog: moothemagiccow: brantgoose: North Carolina is the Best Carolina.

It seems to be a universal law that North anything is better than South anything, except for North Dakota

Protests going on in NC right now because cops shot someone in Elizabeth City.
In fact, a state judge on the court of appeals was arrested and charged with assault because he tried to mow down protesters in Fayetteville.

Wait, what? A freaking judge who made it as high as the court of appeals somehow thought that trying to kill people using their first amendment rights was ok! How the fark have Republican minds been so warped where that's even a possibility? I don't get this country anymore.


The reason they caught him? His car had a "COURT OF APPEALS" license plate. You can't make this shiat up
 
2021-05-15 10:59:16 AM  

Gratch: STOP MURDERING BLACK PEOPLE, YOU COCKS!

/that is all


It really is this. And the police response is predictably ridiculous.

"Oh, I don't know, public safety, misconduct, we're real sorry and will maybe lightly punish the most obviously guilty guy. We don't know why everyone is so worked up."

... just stop doing the thing that makes people mad at you. The equivalent is like "I just went into this restaurant and punched a guy. Everyone seems so mad. But he had a funny mustache that made me think he might've once taken MDMA."

Just. Don't. Act like that
 
2021-05-15 11:10:28 AM  
Tasered to death to ensure he was afforded his Right to a bond hearing...

Seems legit.
 
2021-05-15 11:12:50 AM  
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2021-05-15 11:13:16 AM  
I went to school in Columbia (USC) and split as soon as I knew I'd graduated. Like, the same day. F*ck the ceremony.

There are some enjoyable places in the state, like Charleston and Beaufort, but there's no way in hell I'm going back there ever again for any length of time. I still have college friends there but I make them visit me here in New Orleans. I went to a wedding in the lowcountry (Charleston) some years ago and while I was very happy to see my friend get married I was annoyed the whole time I was there. Not by the wedding, but knowing that I was in SC. The problem with the pleasant, charming places in that state is that it's still South Carolina.
 
2021-05-15 11:14:25 AM  
I wonder how long before people start taking turns standing outside the police station and holding up a sign that says "murderers"

Not blocking traffic (road or sidewalk), unarmed, not making any noise, just one person (at a time) standing there.

Have a street preacher nearby with a megaphone loudly announcing the sin of humanity as a comparison
 
2021-05-15 11:15:19 AM  
I'm wondering if he was on haldol (likely) and or other drugs that prolong his QT/QTc interval of his heart. Tasers have been noted to have changes (either shortening or prolonging) the QTc. This would likely explain a cardiac dysrhythmia - and the higher probability of hit happening with mentally ill persons.
 
2021-05-15 11:19:56 AM  
autopsy showed the cause of death as "excited state with adverse pharmacotherapeutic effect during subdual process," according to WBCD.

Fark you. That "excited delierum" bullshiat is not recognized by nearly every medical organization.

It is not listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders or the International Classification of Diseases, and is not recognized by the World Health Organization, the American Psychiatric Association, or the American Medical Association.
 
2021-05-15 11:21:26 AM  
I had a job interview in South Carolina last week. We haven't talked about compensation yet, and I'm trying to figure out what I would have to be paid to live in South Carolina.
 
2021-05-15 11:28:00 AM  
 I'm just here in case I forgot to tag any authoritarian asslickers parroting the fascist apologist "just obey The Law™" slogan.
 
2021-05-15 11:28:48 AM  

NutWrench: autopsy showed the cause of death as "excited state with adverse pharmacotherapeutic effect during subdual process," according to WBCD.

Fark you. That "excited delierum" bullshiat is not recognized by nearly every medical organization.

It is not listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders or the International Classification of Diseases, and is not recognized by the World Health Organization, the American Psychiatric Association, or the American Medical Association.


I read it more as a bad combo of psych drugs and electrical stimulation.

For excited delirium: It's silly because the American ER physicians do recognize it, but the psych docs don't- but I get it because I've seen some really lazy ER docs so if they have a chance to not have to work something up and slap a diagnosis on it they're good to go.
 
2021-05-15 11:32:46 AM  

bthom37: "The county coroner's office said an autopsy showed the cause of death as "excited state with adverse pharmacotherapeutic effect during subdual process,"

See, it's ok, he just died of being excited at getting tased!

/ACAB


All coroners are bad?
 
2021-05-15 11:44:37 AM  
excited state with adverse pharmacotherapeutic effect during subdual process

Because George Carlin was right... Euphemisms make it so "tortured to death" doesn't seem so bad.

George Carlin - Euphemisms
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2021-05-15 11:57:16 AM  
What the hell happened to this country over the last few years????  I never remember hearing about this much police murder like now.
 
2021-05-15 12:06:42 PM  
Killing an unarmed black man is the initiation rite for full membership in the Thin Blue Line.

/Change my mind
 
2021-05-15 12:10:19 PM  
Whoops, it looks like NBC accidentally typed "Video shows South Carolina deputies repeatedly tasing Black man before he dies in jail" when they really meant "Video shows South Carolina deputies murdering already-detained man with tasers."

Silly NBC.
 
2021-05-15 12:18:33 PM  

Jeff5: Tasered to death to ensure he was afforded his Right to a bond hearing...

Seems legit.


I mean, the guy was like, "What's this about?" and the response was "Get on your stomach! Keep sliding!"
I wonder if maybe, just possibly, it could have gone like this:

Begin Scene
"What's this about?"
"We're gonna take you to your bond hearing"
"Oh.  Okay."
End Scene
 
2021-05-15 12:24:31 PM  

Mattbastard: What the hell happened to this country over the last few years????  I never remember hearing about this much police murder like now.


1) Cell Phones

2) Media realized they can monetize the tragedies
 
2021-05-15 12:30:55 PM  
How likely would a jury acquit someone who gets pulled over by the cops and that person kills the cop because "they feared for their life"?
 
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