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2021-05-15 7:34:16 AM  
Never forget, law enforcement is the only industry to ever sue to keep smart people out.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-b​a​rring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

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They aren't just violent, racist liars. They're morons, too.

/there are dirty cops and cops who cover for dirty cops. which are you, always lurking Fark pigs?
 
2021-05-15 8:16:19 AM  
Romilly said two senior officers have reached out to apologize, and he doesn't plan to file a complaint.
But he still hopes the police department makes some changes.


Yes, that should work out just fine.
 
2021-05-15 8:18:35 AM  
I used to do volunteer search and rescue. There was a steady stream of wannabe cops, firefighters, and paramedics- all looking to improve their odds of being accepted into their field of choice.

There was something wrong with about a third of the wannabe cops. As far as I know, only one actually became a cop, and he was the one we kicked out for being a danger to himself and others.

Anecdotal but still my experience.

I also had a friend who was a kindergarten teacher who quit and went to cop school. Yes, we called her kindergarten cop. She was a sweet girl with some serious damage that was well hidden. Ex girlfriend of a buddy so we lost touch- but if his stories are to be believed... yikes.
 
2021-05-15 8:23:02 AM  
"matched the description of a suspect" stops having any meaning when said description is: "is black".
 
2021-05-15 8:24:45 AM  
Selwyn Romilly, 81, was mistaken for an assault suspect estimated to be 40-50 years old


"you should really take this racial profiling incident as a compliment"
 
2021-05-15 8:29:02 AM  
Unless it's Clarence Thomas, in which case go nuts.

/I know he's not retired.
 
2021-05-15 8:31:50 AM  
How many other people of differing descriptions were hassled or worse while they were looking for their suspect? I'd wager There were more than this guy, and that it happens to them enough that they know calling the paper won't help them, might ultimately harm them with future hassles.
 
2021-05-15 8:32:33 AM  
"I sentence you to kiss my ass"

And if hey have their gavel, you have to do it.  I was informed this by Billie the Bailiff who then Double Dog Dared me so I had that hanging over my head as well as other things.
 
2021-05-15 8:33:27 AM  

The Madd Mann: Unless it's Clarence Thomas, in which case go nuts.

/I know he's not retired.


you have to do something in order to retire
 
2021-05-15 8:36:05 AM  
America: "Where did you learn this stuff?"
Canada: "You, all right!? We learned it from watching you!"
 
2021-05-15 8:38:40 AM  
Just like a Canadian cop, apology and not a beatdown. USA USA
 
2021-05-15 8:39:44 AM  
WElL, iT's A NORMal MisTAkE. i really don't see thE problEm.
 
2021-05-15 8:39:44 AM  
I see the retired judge went full Canadian afterwards. Not even a strongly-worded letter.
 
2021-05-15 8:40:36 AM  

169th Cousin: Just like a Canadian cop, apology and not a beatdown. USA USA


The whole situation evolved very Canadianly.
 
2021-05-15 8:40:58 AM  
They cuffed the wrong guy quickly realized their mistake and let him go and then found the right person. This is the equivalent of a server at a restaurant bringing you a medium steak instead of a rare steak.
 
2021-05-15 8:41:05 AM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Never forget, law enforcement is the only industry to ever sue to keep smart people out.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-ba​rring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

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They aren't just violent, racist liars. They're morons, too.

/there are dirty cops and cops who cover for dirty cops. which are you, always lurking Fark pigs?


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2021-05-15 8:43:43 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: Selwyn Romilly, 81, was mistaken for an assault suspect estimated to be 40-50 years old


"you should really take this racial profiling incident as a compliment"


black don't crack?
 
2021-05-15 8:46:12 AM  

Herr Morgenstern: America: "Where did you learn this stuff?"
Canada: "You, all right!? We learned it from watching you!"


If this were America, he'd already be dead because he was "resisting".
 
2021-05-15 8:48:18 AM  
Just goes to show non-American cops can be racist too.
 
2021-05-15 8:50:03 AM  
They're trained that way.
 
2021-05-15 8:53:05 AM  

RTOGUY: They cuffed the wrong guy quickly realized their mistake and let him go and then found the right person. This is the equivalent of a server at a restaurant bringing you a medium steak instead of a rare steak.


Yeah, that happened to me once. The server thought my table was another one and shot three of my guests by accident. Once he got the right table, though, he apologized. So it was cool.

You once said on Fark: "It shows how many of these virus rules are stupid and arbitrary. 10 people in a store is fine but 11..."
 
2021-05-15 8:54:17 AM  
In Canada? He must have had to look a long time.
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2021-05-15 8:54:26 AM  

Chinesenookiefactory: Giant Clown Shoe: Never forget, law enforcement is the only industry to ever sue to keep smart people out.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-ba​rring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

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They aren't just violent, racist liars. They're morons, too.

/there are dirty cops and cops who cover for dirty cops. which are you, always lurking Fark pigs?

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Stop smarting yourself.
 
2021-05-15 8:55:16 AM  
Judge Roberto Mendoza: You pull all the strings you want, Toby, but not for me. Come Monday, I'm gonna avail myself of the criminal justice system for which I have worked my entire adult life.
Toby Ziegler: Judge, due respect. Get your things and let's go.
Judge Roberto Mendoza: [angrily] My kid was in the car, Toby. They patted me down and they handcuffed me in front of my nine-year-old boy. Then he and his mother got to see them put me in the squad car and drive away.
Toby Ziegler: He's also seen you wearing a robe with a gavel in your hand.
Judge Roberto Mendoza: He doesn't understand that. He doesn't know what that is. He understands what the police are because he watches television. That's what he's gonna remember, his father being handcuffed. So America just got another pissed-off guy with dark skin.

/Woot Canaw
//ACAB, eh
 
2021-05-15 8:56:52 AM  
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Romilly does not look amused
 
2021-05-15 8:59:49 AM  
He wasn't beaten.  He wasn't tasered.  He wasn't pepper sprayed.  He wasn't shot.  He was detained for like a minute until they determined he wasn't the person they were looking for and they apologized.   Can this get any more blown out of proportion?
 
2021-05-15 9:01:39 AM  
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2021-05-15 9:02:18 AM  
He said he told the officers he was a retired judge, and they released him from the handcuffs after about a minute.


Meanwhile people who are not retired judges are taken to the roundhouse.
 
2021-05-15 9:02:42 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: Selwyn Romilly, 81, was mistaken for an assault suspect estimated to be 40-50 years old


"you should really take this racial profiling incident as a compliment"


"Black don't crack"
 
2021-05-15 9:03:06 AM  

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Romilly does not look amused


Yeah, he's pretty farkin far from okay.
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2021-05-15 9:03:16 AM  
Seriously, though, dude looks great for being 81.
 
2021-05-15 9:05:59 AM  

RTOGUY: They cuffed the wrong guy quickly realized their mistake and let him go and then found the right person. This is the equivalent of a server at a restaurant bringing you a medium steak instead of a rare steak.


It's more the fact that they thought they had the right guy in the first place that makes this asinine. This judge didn't match the description of the suspect except for his skin color (and would they have released him as quickly if he didn't say he was a former judge?).

If police are looking for a 6'4", 20 year old white guy, they're almost certainly not going to stop 40 year old short white guys and cuff them, then go "oopsie". But when it comes to black men, that one detail overshadows literally every other part of the description. Just because they let him go rather quickly doesn't make it OK.
 
2021-05-15 9:11:11 AM  

The Madd Mann: Unless it's Clarence Thomas, in which case go nuts.

/I know he's not retired.


He hasn't twitched for decades. He's probably dead
 
2021-05-15 9:12:53 AM  

houstondragon: Judge Roberto Mendoza: You pull all the strings you want, Toby, but not for me. Come Monday, I'm gonna avail myself of the criminal justice system for which I have worked my entire adult life.
Toby Ziegler: Judge, due respect. Get your things and let's go.
Judge Roberto Mendoza: [angrily] My kid was in the car, Toby. They patted me down and they handcuffed me in front of my nine-year-old boy. Then he and his mother got to see them put me in the squad car and drive away.
Toby Ziegler: He's also seen you wearing a robe with a gavel in your hand.
Judge Roberto Mendoza: He doesn't understand that. He doesn't know what that is. He understands what the police are because he watches television. That's what he's gonna remember, his father being handcuffed. So America just got another pissed-off guy with dark skin.

/Woot Canaw
//ACAB, eh


I see that this has been taken care of.
 
2021-05-15 9:14:34 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Just goes to show non-American cops can be racist too.


You forgot "stupid" and "somewhat less killy".
 
2021-05-15 9:16:33 AM  

Harlee: RTOGUY: They cuffed the wrong guy quickly realized their mistake and let him go and then found the right person. This is the equivalent of a server at a restaurant bringing you a medium steak instead of a rare steak.

Yeah, that happened to me once. The server thought my table was another one and shot three of my guests by accident. Once he got the right table, though, he apologized. So it was cool.

You once said on Fark: "It shows how many of these virus rules are stupid and arbitrary. 10 people in a store is fine but 11..."


The article I read didn't mention that anybody died.
 
2021-05-15 9:17:13 AM  
"You would think that we're past that stage in Canada," he said of the arrest.

Needed to add "This isn't the us"
 
2021-05-15 9:18:25 AM  

Call the Guy: The Madd Mann: Unless it's Clarence Thomas, in which case go nuts.

/I know he's not retired.

He hasn't twitched for decades. He's probably dead


Run an intern in front of him and see if he gropes.

/it's the only way to be sure
 
2021-05-15 9:21:10 AM  
They have to be very vigilant when they train young white police officers for dealing with minorities," Romilly said.


Coming soon to your local police academy... signs over training room doors that say "Colored Only" and "White Only" to ensure they each get the appropriate lesson plan.
 
2021-05-15 9:27:17 AM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Never forget, law enforcement is the only industry to ever sue to keep smart people out.


How desperate do you have to be for evidence to support your racist misbeliefs about cops to dig up a single case so old that, had that person been hired, he would have been retired by now.
 
2021-05-15 9:32:19 AM  

Benjimin_Dover: They have to be very vigilant when they train young white police officers for dealing with minorities," Romilly said.


Coming soon to your local police academy... signs over training room doors that say "Colored Only" and "White Only" to ensure they each get the appropriate lesson plan.


The training will be separate but equal.
 
2021-05-15 9:43:08 AM  

RTOGUY: Benjimin_Dover: They have to be very vigilant when they train young white police officers for dealing with minorities," Romilly said.


Coming soon to your local police academy... signs over training room doors that say "Colored Only" and "White Only" to ensure they each get the appropriate lesson plan.

The training will be separate but equal.


I live in Ohio and I think perhaps they should start with requiring at least an associates in criminal justice before you can apply for the 18 week training course that Ohio seems sufficient to become a peace officer.
 
2021-05-15 9:49:05 AM  

CruiserTwelve: Giant Clown Shoe: Never forget, law enforcement is the only industry to ever sue to keep smart people out.

How desperate do you have to be for evidence to support your racist misbeliefs about cops to dig up a single case so old that, had that person been hired, he would have been retired by now.


Seriously? Cop is a race now? That's sort of part of the problem.
 
2021-05-15 9:50:33 AM  
"You would think that we're past that stage in Canada," he said of the arrest.



No, you still have police up there.
 
2021-05-15 9:55:21 AM  
Bring it flatfoot!
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2021-05-15 10:00:06 AM  

CruiserTwelve: Giant Clown Shoe: Never forget, law enforcement is the only industry to ever sue to keep smart people out.

How desperate do you have to be for evidence to support your racist misbeliefs about cops to dig up a single case so old that, had that person been hired, he would have been retired by now.


Setting aside whatever you might mean by "racist beliefs about cops" (????), do you think that psych evals for police that screen out high intelligence are a thing of the past?
That would be a pretty nervy assertion.
You and me both know they still do it.
 
2021-05-15 10:01:52 AM  

synithium: RTOGUY: Benjimin_Dover: They have to be very vigilant when they train young white police officers for dealing with minorities," Romilly said.


Coming soon to your local police academy... signs over training room doors that say "Colored Only" and "White Only" to ensure they each get the appropriate lesson plan.

The training will be separate but equal.

I live in Ohio and I think perhaps they should start with requiring at least an associates in criminal justice before you can apply for the 18 week training course that Ohio seems sufficient to become a peace officer.


Well that's to start it isn't like the training stops. Really the biggest change to policing just needs to be consequences and accountability for egregious mistakes or abuses of authority. I'd also like to see more proactive policing I think the last time I saw a cop walking downtown was 20 years ago. They are making over $100k a year with a high school education the least they can do is walk and pretend to earn it.
 
2021-05-15 10:08:40 AM  

jso2897: CruiserTwelve: Giant Clown Shoe: Never forget, law enforcement is the only industry to ever sue to keep smart people out.

How desperate do you have to be for evidence to support your racist misbeliefs about cops to dig up a single case so old that, had that person been hired, he would have been retired by now.

Setting aside whatever you might mean by "racist beliefs about cops" (????), do you think that psych evals for police that screen out high intelligence are a thing of the past?
That would be a pretty nervy assertion.
You and me both know they still do it.


I don't know... My brother had a midlife crisis at 45
Left a high paying job as vp of network security for a large bank has a masters degree in business or something like that..
He's in the RCMP now.
I would say he highly intelligent most days. Maybe not the day he decided to become an RCMP officer but who am I to tell him how to live his life.
Maybe it's just Canada perhaps we like smarter cops
 
2021-05-15 10:14:51 AM  

jso2897: You and me both know they still do it.


Which is why Fark keeps dragging out that same 25 year old case, right?
 
2021-05-15 10:18:29 AM  
Complaint:  "There's a black man walking along the sea wall randomly attacking people"

Officers: "Hey, there's the only black guy currently in sight walking along the sea wall, let's investigate"

They didn't beat him, but they handcuffed him.  Which means if they had the right guy, they just made it far less likely they'd have to engage in a physical altercation with him.

The guy feels like he was handcuffed because he was black.  Well... yeah?  Because you were the only black guy visible in the area of the report, and they were looking for a black guy in the area of the report?  They got the age range wrong, but so could the person reporting it.

And once they figured out they had the wrong guy, he was released.  Fairly quickly, at the scene.  They didn't rough him up, tase him, or use racist language.

I mean, sure, might be racism but it's still reasonable enough on the face of it that I wouldn't be able to support any kind of reprimand against the officers.  And I generally don't trust cops to do anything but protect their paycheques.
 
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