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2021-05-15 11:29:48 AM  
Whew, another hardened, violent criminal off the streets.
 
2021-05-15 11:32:53 AM  

Madman drummers bummers: Whew, another hardened, violent criminal off the streets.


Unless this elderly lady was conned into the insurance fraud by a roof salesman, which is entirely possible, I have no sympathy.

Too much "well, it wasn't a SERIOUS crime" attitude in this country right now if you ask me.

// you didn't.
 
2021-05-15 11:35:29 AM  

dukeblue219: Too much "well, it wasn't a SERIOUS crime" attitude in this country right now if you ask me.


He says, while an 80-year old woman is getting thrown into jail.
 
2021-05-15 11:36:10 AM  
Not sure why her age or condition is relevant. "Being old" isn't a defense when charged with a crime. It's not a free pass. And she's not going to spend a minute in a cell. They'll book her and release her. It's a formality. This whole article is the attorney using the media to generate outrage on her behalf.
 
2021-05-15 11:38:53 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Not sure why her age or condition is relevant. "Being old" isn't a defense when charged with a crime. It's not a free pass. And she's not going to spend a minute in a cell. They'll book her and release her. It's a formality. This whole article is the attorney using the media to generate outrage on her behalf.


^ This. They are trying to win the case in the media rather than the courtroom by making it sound like something its not. The actual article even has a statement from the prosecutor's office saying this, but its buried in the middle of the article:

> "We have arranged for her surrender rather than arrest, and we have also agreed to have her be released on her own recognizance."
 
2021-05-15 11:40:16 AM  

dukeblue219: Madman drummers bummers: Whew, another hardened, violent criminal off the streets.

Unless this elderly lady was conned into the insurance fraud by a roof salesman, which is entirely possible, I have no sympathy.

Too much "well, it wasn't a SERIOUS crime" attitude in this country right now if you ask me.

// you didn't.


I have no sympathy for her.

Fraudulent claims cost insurance companies a ton of money.  They pass those costs onto who?  Us nonfraudulent customers.

$40 billion in fraudulent claims each years ends up costing the average family $400-700 in increased premiums.  This woman is part of the cause.
 
2021-05-15 11:42:23 AM  

NotThatGuyAgain: dukeblue219: Madman drummers bummers: Whew, another hardened, violent criminal off the streets.

Unless this elderly lady was conned into the insurance fraud by a roof salesman, which is entirely possible, I have no sympathy.

Too much "well, it wasn't a SERIOUS crime" attitude in this country right now if you ask me.

// you didn't.

I have no sympathy for her.

Fraudulent claims cost insurance companies a ton of money.  They pass those costs onto who?  Us nonfraudulent customers.

$40 billion in fraudulent claims each years ends up costing the average family $400-700 in increased premiums.  This woman is part of the cause.


So, outside your own personal vengeance. Killing an elderly lady for $400/month is the right answer? Like for society?
 
2021-05-15 11:45:31 AM  
She can show up and the jail will not accept her for processing. They'll look at her medical needs and turn her away.
 
2021-05-15 11:45:36 AM  

dukeblue219: Madman drummers bummers: Whew, another hardened, violent criminal off the streets.

Unless this elderly lady was conned into the insurance fraud by a roof salesman, which is entirely possible, I have no sympathy.

Too much "well, it wasn't a SERIOUS crime" attitude in this country right now if you ask me.

// you didn't.


Yes. The severity and harm caused by crime should be factored into the punishment by the government. The thoughtless application of law and mindless pursuit of punishment is utter nonsense.
 
2021-05-15 11:53:05 AM  
Local 10 News will be there Monday morning when Williams turns herself in.

Will they still be there 45 minutes later when she's released on her own recognizance?
 
2021-05-15 11:58:06 AM  

Trainspotr: Local 10 News will be there Monday morning when Williams turns herself in.

Will they still be there 45 minutes later when she's released on her own recognizance?


Probably. But, the fact still remains: you're giving an 80-year-old woman a criminal record, and unnecessarily stressing her out for what? To prove a goddamn point?

Great use of legal resources there.
 
2021-05-15 11:59:32 AM  
It's against the law to steal from the rich.  Especially while black.
 
2021-05-15 12:03:25 PM  

crackizzle: NotThatGuyAgain: dukeblue219: Madman drummers bummers: Whew, another hardened, violent criminal off the streets.

Unless this elderly lady was conned into the insurance fraud by a roof salesman, which is entirely possible, I have no sympathy.

Too much "well, it wasn't a SERIOUS crime" attitude in this country right now if you ask me.

// you didn't.

I have no sympathy for her.

Fraudulent claims cost insurance companies a ton of money.  They pass those costs onto who?  Us nonfraudulent customers.

$40 billion in fraudulent claims each years ends up costing the average family $400-700 in increased premiums.  This woman is part of the cause.

So, outside your own personal vengeance. Killing an elderly lady for $400/month is the right answer? Like for society?


I didn't force her to commit fraud, and she'll never see a single day in prison.  Grow up.
 
2021-05-15 12:04:51 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: dukeblue219: Madman drummers bummers: Whew, another hardened, violent criminal off the streets.

Unless this elderly lady was conned into the insurance fraud by a roof salesman, which is entirely possible, I have no sympathy.

Too much "well, it wasn't a SERIOUS crime" attitude in this country right now if you ask me.

// you didn't.

I have no sympathy for her.

Fraudulent claims cost insurance companies a ton of money.  They pass those costs onto who?  Us nonfraudulent customers.

$40 billion in fraudulent claims each years ends up costing the average family $400-700 in increased premiums.  This woman is part of the cause.


Unless she was conned by a roof salesman. Their were two competing firms in our area saying a bunch of my neighbors had hail damage from a storm two years ago. They said they would write up all the paperwork, contact the insurance agencys, but in the end we would have to file the paperwork. It's a scam.
 
2021-05-15 12:07:10 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Not sure why her age or condition is relevant. "Being old" isn't a defense when charged with a crime. It's not a free pass. And she's not going to spend a minute in a cell. They'll book her and release her. It's a formality. This whole article is the attorney using the media to generate outrage on her behalf.


Yes, and I hope that a crappy insurance company, desperate to cut corners on every payment, just doesn't decide to do this to YOUR elderly mother.

/Right is right
//even when it's wrong
///They really better have her bail set and ready when she arrives so she can just turn around and go home
 
2021-05-15 12:12:41 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: crackizzle: NotThatGuyAgain: dukeblue219: Madman drummers bummers: Whew, another hardened, violent criminal off the streets.

Unless this elderly lady was conned into the insurance fraud by a roof salesman, which is entirely possible, I have no sympathy.

Too much "well, it wasn't a SERIOUS crime" attitude in this country right now if you ask me.

// you didn't.

I have no sympathy for her.

Fraudulent claims cost insurance companies a ton of money.  They pass those costs onto who?  Us nonfraudulent customers.

$40 billion in fraudulent claims each years ends up costing the average family $400-700 in increased premiums.  This woman is part of the cause.

So, outside your own personal vengeance. Killing an elderly lady for $400/month is the right answer? Like for society?

I didn't force her to commit fraud, and she'll never see a single day in prison.  Grow up.


And right now, it hasn't been determined that she has committed fraud as she is only accused of it. You're already assuming that she's guilty so she must deserve whatever treatment.

Hopefully they just go have her sign in and turn around to go right back out. Like they do with other folks in similar situations.

But maybe 'arrest kits' should be developed and deployed so that the police can make house-call arrests. Items for mug shots and signing in via tablet or 'something'. There just must be a better way and perhaps that's the direction we should be moving in, instead of just throwing up our hands and stating that this is just the way it is.

/Not trolling you
//Just trying to help open you up to new ideas
///and have a bit more empathy of our mothers :)
 
2021-05-15 12:16:31 PM  

TheEdibleSnuggie: Trainspotr: Local 10 News will be there Monday morning when Williams turns herself in.

Will they still be there 45 minutes later when she's released on her own recognizance?

Probably. But, the fact still remains: you're giving an 80-year-old woman a criminal record, and unnecessarily stressing her out for what? To prove a goddamn point?

Great use of legal resources there.


What resources are those? I'm pretty sure everyone who works at the courthouse would be there Monday whether or not the insurance scammer shows up.
 
2021-05-15 12:19:33 PM  
"We look forward to a call from an appropriate State Attorney to see if there is something other than having her be incarcerated and strip searched first thing Monday a.m."


Seems like the aggrieved party here is the person who has to strip and cavity search her.
 
2021-05-15 12:24:48 PM  
She stole thousands of (maybe 10 thousand?) dollars. It's not like she tried to pay with a fake $20 or something. Heck, add a few more zeroes to the end and she's in high-power, white-collar crime territory where a voluntary disclosure and a fee less than the proceeds would cover it.

Not sure where I'm going with this. shiat's wrong somewhere.
 
2021-05-15 12:26:47 PM  

solokumba: NotThatGuyAgain: dukeblue219: Madman drummers bummers: Whew, another hardened, violent criminal off the streets.

Unless this elderly lady was conned into the insurance fraud by a roof salesman, which is entirely possible, I have no sympathy.

Too much "well, it wasn't a SERIOUS crime" attitude in this country right now if you ask me.

// you didn't.

I have no sympathy for her.

Fraudulent claims cost insurance companies a ton of money.  They pass those costs onto who?  Us nonfraudulent customers.

$40 billion in fraudulent claims each years ends up costing the average family $400-700 in increased premiums.  This woman is part of the cause.

Unless she was conned by a roof salesman. Their were two competing firms in our area saying a bunch of my neighbors had hail damage from a storm two years ago. They said they would write up all the paperwork, contact the insurance agencys, but in the end we would have to file the paperwork. It's a scam.


She filed a false claim when there was no damage and lied about the dates as well.

My grandmother did something similar, knowing full well what she was doing, in her 70s.  She got caught and she did not use the excuse of raising kids and grandkids.

She had a tree she wanted to be cut down and did not want to pay for it, so she got an estimate, then she typed on the estimate that the tree was struck by lightning and was in danger of falling down on her house.

The insurance company paid her then contacted the tree surgeon for their copy of the estimate and their copy did not match hers.

I drove her to the courthouse and they slapped her on the wrist and she made sad faces and she went home.
 
2021-05-15 12:29:46 PM  

Hoblit: NotThatGuyAgain: crackizzle: NotThatGuyAgain: dukeblue219: Madman drummers bummers: Whew, another hardened, violent criminal off the streets.

Unless this elderly lady was conned into the insurance fraud by a roof salesman, which is entirely possible, I have no sympathy.

Too much "well, it wasn't a SERIOUS crime" attitude in this country right now if you ask me.

// you didn't.

I have no sympathy for her.

Fraudulent claims cost insurance companies a ton of money.  They pass those costs onto who?  Us nonfraudulent customers.

$40 billion in fraudulent claims each years ends up costing the average family $400-700 in increased premiums.  This woman is part of the cause.

So, outside your own personal vengeance. Killing an elderly lady for $400/month is the right answer? Like for society?

I didn't force her to commit fraud, and she'll never see a single day in prison.  Grow up.

And right now, it hasn't been determined that she has committed fraud as she is only accused of it. You're already assuming that she's guilty so she must deserve whatever treatment.

Hopefully they just go have her sign in and turn around to go right back out. Like they do with other folks in similar situations.

But maybe 'arrest kits' should be developed and deployed so that the police can make house-call arrests. Items for mug shots and signing in via tablet or 'something'. There just must be a better way and perhaps that's the direction we should be moving in, instead of just throwing up our hands and stating that this is just the way it is.

/Not trolling you
//Just trying to help open you up to new ideas
///and have a bit more empathy of our mothers :)


Miss the part about her altering the dates on receipts?
 
2021-05-15 12:35:07 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Hoblit: NotThatGuyAgain: crackizzle: NotThatGuyAgain: dukeblue219: Madman drummers bummers: Whew, another hardened, violent criminal off the streets.

Unless this elderly lady was conned into the insurance fraud by a roof salesman, which is entirely possible, I have no sympathy.

Too much "well, it wasn't a SERIOUS crime" attitude in this country right now if you ask me.

// you didn't.

I have no sympathy for her.

Fraudulent claims cost insurance companies a ton of money.  They pass those costs onto who?  Us nonfraudulent customers.

$40 billion in fraudulent claims each years ends up costing the average family $400-700 in increased premiums.  This woman is part of the cause.

So, outside your own personal vengeance. Killing an elderly lady for $400/month is the right answer? Like for society?

I didn't force her to commit fraud, and she'll never see a single day in prison.  Grow up.

And right now, it hasn't been determined that she has committed fraud as she is only accused of it. You're already assuming that she's guilty so she must deserve whatever treatment.

Hopefully they just go have her sign in and turn around to go right back out. Like they do with other folks in similar situations.

But maybe 'arrest kits' should be developed and deployed so that the police can make house-call arrests. Items for mug shots and signing in via tablet or 'something'. There just must be a better way and perhaps that's the direction we should be moving in, instead of just throwing up our hands and stating that this is just the way it is.

/Not trolling you
//Just trying to help open you up to new ideas
///and have a bit more empathy of our mothers :)

Miss the part about her altering the dates on receipts?


So you're trolling, I get it now, my apologies for engaging at all.

/ACCUSED of altering the dates but you already knew that
 
2021-05-15 12:40:15 PM  

Hoblit: NotThatGuyAgain: Hoblit: NotThatGuyAgain: crackizzle: NotThatGuyAgain: dukeblue219: Madman drummers bummers: Whew, another hardened, violent criminal off the streets.

Unless this elderly lady was conned into the insurance fraud by a roof salesman, which is entirely possible, I have no sympathy.

Too much "well, it wasn't a SERIOUS crime" attitude in this country right now if you ask me.

// you didn't.

I have no sympathy for her.

Fraudulent claims cost insurance companies a ton of money.  They pass those costs onto who?  Us nonfraudulent customers.

$40 billion in fraudulent claims each years ends up costing the average family $400-700 in increased premiums.  This woman is part of the cause.

So, outside your own personal vengeance. Killing an elderly lady for $400/month is the right answer? Like for society?

I didn't force her to commit fraud, and she'll never see a single day in prison.  Grow up.

And right now, it hasn't been determined that she has committed fraud as she is only accused of it. You're already assuming that she's guilty so she must deserve whatever treatment.

Hopefully they just go have her sign in and turn around to go right back out. Like they do with other folks in similar situations.

But maybe 'arrest kits' should be developed and deployed so that the police can make house-call arrests. Items for mug shots and signing in via tablet or 'something'. There just must be a better way and perhaps that's the direction we should be moving in, instead of just throwing up our hands and stating that this is just the way it is.

/Not trolling you
//Just trying to help open you up to new ideas
///and have a bit more empathy of our mothers :)

Miss the part about her altering the dates on receipts?

So you're trolling, I get it now, my apologies for engaging at all.

/ACCUSED of altering the dates but you already knew that


Trolling?  Just pointing out the obvious.

In the real World most people charged with crimes did what they are charged with.
 
2021-05-15 12:48:45 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Hoblit: NotThatGuyAgain: Hoblit: NotThatGuyAgain: crackizzle: NotThatGuyAgain: dukeblue219: Madman drummers

Trolling?  Just pointing out the obvious.

In the real World most people charged with crimes did what they are charged with.


Well shiat, maybe we should just do away with the judicial system, and just book everyone who stands accused.
 
2021-05-15 12:50:04 PM  
NotThatGuyAgain: Hoblit:Miss the part about her altering the dates on receipts?

So you're trolling, I get it now, my apologies for engaging at all.

/ACCUSED of altering the dates but you already knew that


Trolling?  Just pointing out the obvious.

In the real World most people charged with crimes did what they are charged with.


Many are, but quite a few are not.  Why do we need to haul people to jail to begin the process of proving whether they're guilty?  She doesn't seem to be a flight risk, nor is she a danger to society in the meantime.
 
2021-05-15 12:52:38 PM  
fit the crime...
HOW ABOUT HOUSE ARREST ?

 
2021-05-15 1:01:08 PM  

TheEdibleSnuggie: Trainspotr: Local 10 News will be there Monday morning when Williams turns herself in.

Will they still be there 45 minutes later when she's released on her own recognizance?

Probably. But, the fact still remains: you're giving an 80-year-old woman a criminal record, and unnecessarily stressing her out for what? To prove a goddamn point?

Great use of legal resources there.


We can't have things like hurricane aid if we don't deter fraudulent claims. Questions about whether she's experiencing unequal enforcement because of her race notwithstanding, public aid fraud can threaten the effectiveness and solvency of those air programs.
 
2021-05-15 1:05:48 PM  

mehhhhhh: NotThatGuyAgain: Hoblit: NotThatGuyAgain: Hoblit: NotThatGuyAgain: crackizzle: NotThatGuyAgain: dukeblue219: Madman drummers

Trolling?  Just pointing out the obvious.

In the real World most people charged with crimes did what they are charged with.

Well shiat, maybe we should just do away with the judicial system, and just book everyone who stands accused.


That's exactly how it works, rofl.
 
2021-05-15 1:07:37 PM  

buserror: NotThatGuyAgain: Hoblit:Miss the part about her altering the dates on receipts?

So you're trolling, I get it now, my apologies for engaging at all.

/ACCUSED of altering the dates but you already knew that


Trolling?  Just pointing out the obvious.

In the real World most people charged with crimes did what they are charged with.

Many are, but quite a few are not.  Why do we need to haul people to jail to begin the process of proving whether they're guilty?  She doesn't seem to be a flight risk, nor is she a danger to society in the meantime.


Because that's how the booking phase of it goes.  This is how it works.

TFA even says she'll be released on her own recognizance after being booked.  I am failing to see the problem.
 
2021-05-15 1:09:35 PM  

WTP 2: fit the crime...HOW ABOUT HOUSE ARREST ?


That would be harsher than their plan to release her on her own recognizance.  But reading details must be for suckers, and posts that are completely ignorant of the facts is for real winners!
 
2021-05-15 1:12:02 PM  
This gives her some streed cred.
 
2021-05-15 1:13:50 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: buserror: NotThatGuyAgain: Hoblit:Miss the part about her altering the dates on receipts?

So you're trolling, I get it now, my apologies for engaging at all.

/ACCUSED of altering the dates but you already knew that


Trolling?  Just pointing out the obvious.

In the real World most people charged with crimes did what they are charged with.

Many are, but quite a few are not.  Why do we need to haul people to jail to begin the process of proving whether they're guilty?  She doesn't seem to be a flight risk, nor is she a danger to society in the meantime.

Because that's how the booking phase of it goes.  This is how it works.

TFA even says she'll be released on her own recognizance after being booked.  I am failing to see the problem.


I know that it's "how it works" currently.  I'm saying it's crap, and asking why it needs to work that way.
 
2021-05-15 1:16:28 PM  
Just think of all the great stories she'll have for her sewing circle. Assuming she doesn't get shanked for her Geritol.
 
2021-05-15 1:17:50 PM  

TheEdibleSnuggie: Trainspotr: Local 10 News will be there Monday morning when Williams turns herself in.

Will they still be there 45 minutes later when she's released on her own recognizance?

Probably. But, the fact still remains: you're giving an 80-year-old woman a criminal record, and unnecessarily stressing her out for what? To prove a goddamn point?

Great use of legal resources there.


I hope her future employers don't find out.
 
2021-05-15 1:28:11 PM  

WTP 2: HOW ABOUT HOUSE ARREST ?


Because that will cut off her Medicare. The jail (county) probably doesn't want to take on medical costs for her that way.
 
2021-05-15 2:04:32 PM  
And yet Tr*** and the REST of the traitorous, money-stealing GQP walk free.

I'd rather see them arrested than her.
 
2021-05-15 2:16:24 PM  
I am 58 years old.  Just wondering how long I have to wait before I am not held responsible for my crimes..
 
2021-05-15 2:17:07 PM  

TheEdibleSnuggie: Trainspotr: Local 10 News will be there Monday morning when Williams turns herself in.

Will they still be there 45 minutes later when she's released on her own recognizance?

Probably. But, the fact still remains: you're giving an 80-year-old woman a criminal record, and unnecessarily stressing her out for what? To prove a goddamn point?


To punish a crime that was committed and deter others from doing the same. She's not getting the chair for this.

My five year old gets punished if he breaks the rules. He doesn't get special treatment just because he's a little kid, and neither should an 80 year old.
 
2021-05-15 2:20:23 PM  

WillJM8528: dukeblue219: Madman drummers bummers: Whew, another hardened, violent criminal off the streets.

Unless this elderly lady was conned into the insurance fraud by a roof salesman, which is entirely possible, I have no sympathy.

Too much "well, it wasn't a SERIOUS crime" attitude in this country right now if you ask me.

// you didn't.

Yes. The severity and harm caused by crime should be factored into the punishment by the government. The thoughtless application of law and mindless pursuit of punishment is utter nonsense.


I'm all for it so long as such standards are applied equally to all.  It's not that I'm cruel, but rather that I believe that equal protection perfectly applied would greatly reduce sentencing schedules across the board until the punishment actually fit the crime.
 
2021-05-15 2:26:03 PM  

casey17: And yet Tr*** and the REST of the traitorous, money-stealing GQP walk free.

I'd rather see them arrested than her.


I've been waiting for somebody to show up and try to drag this into the political realm. It must be all that certain people can think about.
 
2021-05-15 2:35:29 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: Whew, another hardened, violent criminal off the streets.


Well she did the worst crime ever, stole money from rich people. She is lucky she didn't get the chair.
 
2021-05-15 3:06:18 PM  
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2021-05-15 3:44:18 PM  

jjorsett: casey17: And yet Tr*** and the REST of the traitorous, money-stealing GQP walk free.

I'd rather see them arrested than her.

I've been waiting for somebody to show up and try to drag this into the political realm. It must be all that certain people can think about.


LOL!!! It's pretty obvious that YOU'RE the one who's obsessed with the subject muchacho.
 
2021-05-15 4:00:19 PM  
Kinda wondering if the same people on here calling for her to be punished are the same who jump to defend every cop who shoots an unarmed person.

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2021-05-15 4:44:39 PM  

ElPrimitivo: Kinda wondering if the same people on here calling for her to be punished are the same who jump to defend every cop who shoots an unarmed person.


No, not at all. Some of us just have a middle of the road view that criminal justice applies to everyone. People don't seem to care about their age, the kids they're caring for, or their sickness when they're getting away with crimes, but as soon as they're caught it's all "poor me."

I'm tired of the "we've all made mistakes" defense, too. No, I've never committed insurance fraud or a felony, and yes, I will gladly judge those who have.
 
2021-05-15 5:25:11 PM  

WTP 2: fit the crime...HOW ABOUT HOUSE ARREST ?


THEY AREN'T GOING TO LOCK HER UP!


I know this is fark, but it says it right there in the article.
 
2021-05-15 5:33:17 PM  
No time for paragraphs either, it would seem.
 
2021-05-15 6:45:58 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: dukeblue219: Madman drummers bummers: Whew, another hardened, violent criminal off the streets.

Unless this elderly lady was conned into the insurance fraud by a roof salesman, which is entirely possible, I have no sympathy.

Too much "well, it wasn't a SERIOUS crime" attitude in this country right now if you ask me.

// you didn't.

I have no sympathy for her.

Fraudulent claims cost insurance companies a ton of money.  They pass those costs onto who?  Us nonfraudulent customers.

$40 billion in fraudulent claims each years ends up costing the average family $400-700 in increased premiums.  This woman is part of the cause.


She's a drop in the bucket.

"In analyzing more than 3,000 insurance cases, Fraker found that litigation costs are 17% higher for Florida insurers than in other catastrophe-prone states. The fees paid to attorneys by Florida carriers for this litigation are on average more than 750% of the damages paid to the plaintiffs/insureds. In one case Fraker examined, the plaintiff attorney was awarded 21,041% of the damages in fees."
https://amp.insurancejournal.com/news​/​southeast/2021/01/20/598034.htm

Florida is well and truly farked.
 
2021-05-15 7:32:43 PM  
She's going to spend an hour being processed and then will probably be offered a plea deal of a fine and maybe probation which she should probably take as it's cheaper than court.

Yes, there are probably bigger fish to fry but even the moron who shop lifts $100 gets the same sort of deal.

She's going to be bent over the next renewal of home owner's insurance.
 
2021-05-16 12:19:43 AM  

Lsherm: WTP 2: fit the crime...HOW ABOUT HOUSE ARREST ?

THEY AREN'T GOING TO LOCK HER UP!

I know this is fark, but it says it right there in the article.


i just wanted to post that, thanks...
 
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