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2021-05-13 4:59:50 AM  
Said Drax, hoping that someone would pick up his balls.

He was never anything but the big dumb comic relief and he did a pretty good job. And on top of that, he mastered the ability to stand so perfectly still that he became invisible to the eye.
 
2021-05-13 5:26:46 AM  
Drax would NEVER drop a ball. His grip and reflexes are too good!
 
2021-05-13 6:40:26 AM  
Any popularity Drax has is mostly if not entirely attributable to being funny and playing the role well, not the 'Destroyer' side.
 
2021-05-13 7:35:36 AM  
Also, they killed his family, so he's justifiably a little miffed.
 
2021-05-13 8:29:07 AM  
Wow, some actor wants his character to have more screen time and development.
 
2021-05-13 8:53:22 AM  
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Worf would express sympathy, but he just got beaten up again
 
2021-05-13 8:53:31 AM  
It sounds like working with Snyder was good for his ego.
 
2021-05-13 8:57:48 AM  
He's great, but he's a side character.  You have to have those in any epic universe.  You can't explore every corner and turn every character into a leading protagonist...

Guardians: Drax and Mantis!
Lord of the Rings: The Secret History of Folco Boffin and Fatty Bolger
Star Wars: The Rise of Rose Tico and that Jannah Chick
Standalone Rhino Prequel starring Paul Giamatti
You've Seen Hamlet, But Now Discover the Legend of... Osric!
 
2021-05-13 9:08:01 AM  

Socrofece: You've Seen Hamlet, But Now Discover the Legend of... Osric!


Hamlet has already had this treatment

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2021-05-13 9:10:55 AM  
He also needed a purple cape.
 
2021-05-13 9:15:24 AM  
Drax did have an entertaining mini series about 15 years ago where he and a 12 year old human girl had to survive against a spaceship full of intergalactic criminals. It would make a fun the show.

That was the launch of the capeless, knife wielding design they use in the movies.
 
2021-05-13 9:23:22 AM  
If I had a stupid high paying comic book multi movie gig, I'd STFU and play dress up superhero.
 
2021-05-13 9:25:38 AM  
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2021-05-13 10:28:25 AM  
Sorry, Dave. Drax doesn't need much more of a backstory.

We've already seen through the movies that Drax's family was killed by Ronan/Thanos in one of the world purges before he got the Infinity Guantlet. That's about all we need.  We have his motivation and why he hates Thanos.  He chased down Ronan and went on a killing spree of revenge.  That's how he ended up in the Kyln and how he meets the rest of the Guardians.

Everything beyond that is characterization.
 
2021-05-13 10:41:20 AM  
I liked original Drax in the comics. Cosmic powered but still not powerful enough to kill Thanos which was his sole purpose in life.
But then all the sudden he can kill Thanos when he was way powered down... during the Annihilation event.
That never made much sense to me.
Unless Thanos was also way powered down and I missed that somehow.
 
2021-05-13 10:45:06 AM  

Raug the Dwarf: Sorry, Dave. Drax doesn't need much more of a backstory.

We've already seen through the movies that Drax's family was killed by Ronan/Thanos in one of the world purges before he got the Infinity Guantlet. That's about all we need.  We have his motivation and why he hates Thanos.  He chased down Ronan and went on a killing spree of revenge.  That's how he ended up in the Kyln and how he meets the rest of the Guardians.

Everything beyond that is characterization.


Endgame basically resolved Drax's backstory, everyone responsible for his families death is now dead. I wouldn't be opposed to Drax having his own mini arc in the next movie like Rocket did in 2 but its not necessary for his character.
 
2021-05-13 10:58:17 AM  
In the comics, Drax was a fairly heavy hitter and had a complex backstory. In the MCU, Drax is largely a comic sidekick.

I think Marvel could have done with more "destroyer" and less "comic relief" for the character, but that ship has sailed. Until they re-boot the entire franchise, Drax is going to be an occasionally-dangerous secondary comedy character.
 
2021-05-13 11:21:49 AM  

Wenchmaster: In the comics, Drax was a fairly heavy hitter and had a complex backstory. In the MCU, Drax is largely a comic sidekick.

I think Marvel could have done with more "destroyer" and less "comic relief" for the character, but that ship has sailed. Until they re-boot the entire franchise, Drax is going to be an occasionally-dangerous secondary comedy character.


Unless they pull the opposite of the comics.  Have the reboot take him back to the purple cape
 
2021-05-13 11:47:02 AM  
He's super dead in Volume 3, isn't he?
 
2021-05-13 11:56:50 AM  
Definitely preferred Drax in Vol 1 - in 2 his comedy value was used like a sledgehammer and it totally overshadowed any other character trait. And because he was delivering far more comedy lines it just started to fall flat, especially if the jokes were a bit meh.
 
2021-05-13 12:11:06 PM  

Trik: I liked original Drax in the comics. Cosmic powered but still not powerful enough to kill Thanos which was his sole purpose in life.
But then all the sudden he can kill Thanos when he was way powered down... during the Annihilation event.
That never made much sense to me.
Unless Thanos was also way powered down and I missed that somehow.


Thanks for the reminder! I thought that he killed Thanos in the Infinity Gauntlet run, but I guess I was mixing it up with Annihilation:
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I was smugly telling people that Drax would be the one to kill Thanos in Avengers: Endgame.
 
2021-05-13 12:13:17 PM  

The Silver Mullet: Trik: I liked original Drax in the comics. Cosmic powered but still not powerful enough to kill Thanos which was his sole purpose in life.
But then all the sudden he can kill Thanos when he was way powered down... during the Annihilation event.
That never made much sense to me.
Unless Thanos was also way powered down and I missed that somehow.

Thanks for the reminder! I thought that he killed Thanos in the Infinity Gauntlet run, but I guess I was mixing it up with Annihilation:
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I was smugly telling people that Drax would be the one to kill Thanos in Avengers: Endgame.


That's some Mr fantastic stretchy arm going on there.
 
2021-05-13 12:16:06 PM  

likefunbutnot: Drax did have an entertaining mini series about 15 years ago where he and a 12 year old human girl had to survive against a spaceship full of intergalactic criminals. It would make a fun the show.

That was the launch of the capeless, knife wielding design they use in the movies.


Here's your Disney-plus episodic peace offering idea, to whichever side is willing enough to pick it up.

Liked Guardians for its OG Star Wars vibe, just need to figure out how to put kick-ass music of past decades in a Drax does Mandalorian bit.

/Not a comic book guy
 
2021-05-13 1:00:28 PM  

Practical_Draconian: likefunbutnot: Drax did have an entertaining mini series about 15 years ago where he and a 12 year old human girl had to survive against a spaceship full of intergalactic criminals. It would make a fun the show.

That was the launch of the capeless, knife wielding design they use in the movies.

Here's your Disney-plus episodic peace offering idea, to whichever side is willing enough to pick it up.

Liked Guardians for its OG Star Wars vibe, just need to figure out how to put kick-ass music of past decades in a Drax does Mandalorian bit.

/Not a comic book guy


Like the character and Bautista, but a Gamora and Nebula series would be better.
 
2021-05-13 1:56:04 PM  

King Keepo: Definitely preferred Drax in Vol 1 - in 2 his comedy value was used like a sledgehammer and it totally overshadowed any other character trait. And because he was delivering far more comedy lines it just started to fall flat, especially if the jokes were a bit meh.


Guardians 2 crossed the line from comedic touches to broad farce a little too often for my taste.

Ragnarok did the same thing, but for me it's gotten better with additional viewings.

Overall I like the idea of the cosmic side of marvel being even more light hearted than the rest of the MCU but I don't want it to become stupid.
 
2021-05-13 2:45:29 PM  
His Flanderization in GotG2 was a little excessive.
 
2021-05-13 3:16:00 PM  
The thing is, some of these characters have existed since the 1930-40's. Of course they have rich histories, but we all realistically know you can't compelling fit that into three or four movies. There just isn't enough time without making it a complete mess of a film. So the MCU has to pick and choose which stories to tell, and make them fit in a larger more complete narrative as well.

Some great comic storylines and arcs are gonna get shoved aside, and some characters are going to be condensed to serve the larger narrative.

So is Dave right that there's more to Drax? Yeah, probably.

Did Disney drop the ball? Hardly.
 
2021-05-13 4:20:48 PM  

Copperbelly watersnake: Practical_Draconian: likefunbutnot: Drax did have an entertaining mini series about 15 years ago where he and a 12 year old human girl had to survive against a spaceship full of intergalactic criminals. It would make a fun the show.

That was the launch of the capeless, knife wielding design they use in the movies.

Here's your Disney-plus episodic peace offering idea, to whichever side is willing enough to pick it up.

Liked Guardians for its OG Star Wars vibe, just need to figure out how to put kick-ass music of past decades in a Drax does Mandalorian bit.

/Not a comic book guy

Like the character and Bautista, but a Gamora and Nebula series would be better.


Especially if there was an episode that was them just trying on different outfits.
 
2021-05-13 4:54:07 PM  

Trik: I liked original Drax in the comics. Cosmic powered but still not powerful enough to kill Thanos which was his sole purpose in life.


In after-life, the original Drax was powerful enough to have killed Thanos when he first came to
earth. But Thanos had gotten stronger

But then all the sudden he can kill Thanos when he was way powered down... during the Annihilation event.
That never made much sense to me.


The way they played it out in the TPB of that event, the closer the "new" Drax got to Thanos, the more he reverted back to his old Destroyer form.

Unless Thanos was also way powered down and I missed that somehow.

Thanos was also a lot less powerful, having been recently brought back from the dead without his previous powers.
 
2021-05-13 5:16:22 PM  
Has anyone mentioned his exceptionally large bowel movements?
 
2021-05-13 7:16:03 PM  
...says the guy who chose to be in a Snyder zombie casino heist movie that earned the surprisingly high metascore of 56.
 
2021-05-13 10:16:29 PM  

Socrofece: He's great, but he's a side character.  You have to have those in any epic universe.  You can't explore every corner and turn every character into a leading protagonist...

Guardians: Drax and Mantis!
Lord of the Rings: The Secret History of Folco Boffin and Fatty Bolger
Star Wars: The Rise of Rose Tico and that Jannah Chick
Standalone Rhino Prequel starring Paul Giamatti
You've Seen Hamlet, But Now Discover the Legend of... Osric!



I'd go see a show about Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, though.
 
2021-05-13 11:15:56 PM  

Socrofece: Guardians: Drax and Mantis!
Lord of the Rings: The Secret History of Folco Boffin and Fatty Bolger
Star Wars: The Rise of Rose Tico and that Jannah Chick
Standalone Rhino Prequel starring Paul Giamatti
You've Seen Hamlet, But Now Discover the Legend of... Osric!


Lord of the Rings tried to do that with the movies and failed (that's what "The Hobbit" trilogy was in the movies, it wasn't particularly related to the book The Hobbit), but Tolkien did it in the books and succeeded, both The Hobbit and The Silmarillion are spinoffs about minor side-characters (literally characters so "side" they appeared only in the appendices in the latter case).

The Star Wars one sounds better than Episode IX, at least, and there is literally a sub-series called "Star Wars Stories" which consists entirely of such spinoffs, one of which is pretty well regarded (Rogue One).

And the last one is actually a thing in a more direct sense.  And by "an thing" I mean "often cited as one of the greatest plays of the 20th century".

... basically in trying to be sarcastic you've accidentally stumbled ass-backwards into a basic and obvious way that everyone else already knew the entertainment industry works and has always worked.  Good job, have a cookie.
 
2021-05-13 11:20:03 PM  

AnotherBluesStringer: The thing is, some of these characters have existed since the 1930-40's. Of course they have rich histories, but we all realistically know you can't compelling fit that into three or four movies. There just isn't enough time without making it a complete mess of a film. So the MCU has to pick and choose which stories to tell, and make them fit in a larger more complete narrative as well.

Some great comic storylines and arcs are gonna get shoved aside, and some characters are going to be condensed to serve the larger narrative.

So is Dave right that there's more to Drax? Yeah, probably.

Did Disney drop the ball? Hardly.


Drax popped up some time in the early 70's sometime after Thanos.
 
2021-05-14 5:14:38 AM  

Socrofece: He's great, but he's a side character.  You have to have those in any epic universe.  You can't explore every corner and turn every character into a leading protagonist...

Guardians: Drax and Mantis!
Lord of the Rings: The Secret History of Folco Boffin and Fatty Bolger
Star Wars: The Rise of Rose Tico and that Jannah Chick
Standalone Rhino Prequel starring Paul Giamatti
You've Seen Hamlet, But Now Discover the Legend of... Osric!


It can work.
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2021-05-14 5:22:14 AM  

Nora Gretz: ...says the guy who chose to be in a Snyder zombie casino heist movie that earned the surprisingly high metascore of 56.


76% critic, 91% audience on rottentomatoes.
 
2021-05-14 5:23:20 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Socrofece: Guardians: Drax and Mantis!
Lord of the Rings: The Secret History of Folco Boffin and Fatty Bolger
Star Wars: The Rise of Rose Tico and that Jannah Chick
Standalone Rhino Prequel starring Paul Giamatti
You've Seen Hamlet, But Now Discover the Legend of... Osric!

Lord of the Rings tried to do that with the movies and failed (that's what "The Hobbit" trilogy was in the movies, it wasn't particularly related to the book The Hobbit), but Tolkien did it in the books and succeeded, both The Hobbit and The Silmarillion are spinoffs about minor side-characters (literally characters so "side" they appeared only in the appendices in the latter case).

The Star Wars one sounds better than Episode IX, at least, and there is literally a sub-series called "Star Wars Stories" which consists entirely of such spinoffs, one of which is pretty well regarded (Rogue One).

And the last one is actually a thing in a more direct sense.  And by "an thing" I mean "often cited as one of the greatest plays of the 20th century".

... basically in trying to be sarcastic you've accidentally stumbled ass-backwards into a basic and obvious way that everyone else already knew the entertainment industry works and has always worked.  Good job, have a cookie.


The Hobbit was written before LotR.
 
2021-05-14 11:34:10 AM  
The problem is Drax's back story, that he is an angry badass that wants revenge on Thanos, is pretty similar to several other characters. And Karen Gillan as Nebula kind of crushed that story arc. So what else would be left for him besides being a side character?
 
2021-05-14 7:20:23 PM  
The only back story they had on him was his family was murdered by Ronan. That storyline was cleared up after the first Guardians movie. The writers really had no other plan for him but had to have some kind of emotional back story to justify his anger at Thanos....so they just used the same idea.

It was definitely one of the weaker backstories for the the 2nd string side characters. They could have tweaked it a little to show him struggling to come to terms with his anger and loss now that he had taken revenge. Especially with the 2nd movie being all about family.
 
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