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2021-05-11 6:48:28 PM  
Good
Pleading now would likely draw a lesser sentence.
 
2021-05-11 7:00:12 PM  
Just because their grandparents might have gotten away with doing the same thing with a rope instead of a gun does not in any way even remotely justify what these people did to that kid. Lock them up forever and make damn sure others who would do the same know exactly how bad prison life is treating them.
 
2021-05-11 7:26:18 PM  
With helpful pic of what 3 racist, lying, lynching pig-f*ckers look like

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Go get 'em, Merrick.
 
2021-05-11 7:31:52 PM  

cretinbob: Good
Pleading now would likely draw a lesser sentence.


I don't know the sentencing intricacies for this particular case, but I would guess that a second degree murder charge (or equivalent) would have likely been the least severe charge the prosecution would offer.  That is essentially a death sentence for poppa, and probably not far off for the son.  It actually makes sense for the defense not to take a deal here, but I would feel a lot more comfortable if dad and son had just accepted a plea deal.  I don't trust the system enough to be excited by this, but I guess we'll see.
 
2021-05-11 8:35:40 PM  

Hoban Washburne: cretinbob: Good
Pleading now would likely draw a lesser sentence.

I don't know the sentencing intricacies for this particular case, but I would guess that a second degree murder charge (or equivalent) would have likely been the least severe charge the prosecution would offer.  That is essentially a death sentence for poppa, and probably not far off for the son.  It actually makes sense for the defense not to take a deal here, but I would feel a lot more comfortable if dad and son had just accepted a plea deal.  I don't trust the system enough to be excited by this, but I guess we'll see.


You have several chances to plead guilty, starting with arraignment. Each chance you get means more work for the court. So the penalties go up if you are found guilty at trial because you had a chance to admit to your crime before thousands to millions have been spent.
That came from a judge in court.
I was an observer.
 
2021-05-11 8:52:46 PM  

cretinbob: Hoban Washburne: cretinbob: Good
Pleading now would likely draw a lesser sentence.

I don't know the sentencing intricacies for this particular case, but I would guess that a second degree murder charge (or equivalent) would have likely been the least severe charge the prosecution would offer.  That is essentially a death sentence for poppa, and probably not far off for the son.  It actually makes sense for the defense not to take a deal here, but I would feel a lot more comfortable if dad and son had just accepted a plea deal.  I don't trust the system enough to be excited by this, but I guess we'll see.

You have several chances to plead guilty, starting with arraignment. Each chance you get means more work for the court. So the penalties go up if you are found guilty at trial because you had a chance to admit to your crime before thousands to millions have been spent.
That came from a judge in court.
I was an observer.


Ah, okay.  I get what you were saying now. Thanks for the clarification.
 
2021-05-11 11:09:30 PM  

Hoban Washburne: cretinbob: Hoban Washburne: cretinbob: Good
Pleading now would likely draw a lesser sentence.

I don't know the sentencing intricacies for this particular case, but I would guess that a second degree murder charge (or equivalent) would have likely been the least severe charge the prosecution would offer.  That is essentially a death sentence for poppa, and probably not far off for the son.  It actually makes sense for the defense not to take a deal here, but I would feel a lot more comfortable if dad and son had just accepted a plea deal.  I don't trust the system enough to be excited by this, but I guess we'll see.

You have several chances to plead guilty, starting with arraignment. Each chance you get means more work for the court. So the penalties go up if you are found guilty at trial because you had a chance to admit to your crime before thousands to millions have been spent.
That came from a judge in court.
I was an observer.

Ah, okay.  I get what you were saying now. Thanks for the clarification.


Yeah, so plea guilty now and get 10 years, or cost the state lots of money and get life.

By all means, take these assholes to trial and give them life.
 
2021-05-11 11:17:26 PM  
They're going up the Federal river without a paddle. Good riddance.
 
2021-05-11 11:18:28 PM  
C'mon people. We all know how this is gonna turn out.

They will have heavy financial support from the KIan, law enforcement and conservative Christian leaders.
 
2021-05-11 11:19:42 PM  

Godscrack: C'mon people. We all know how this is gonna turn out.

They will have heavy financial support from the KIan, law enforcement and conservative Christian leaders.


So they'll have prison commissary cash and an in with the Aryan Brotherhood.

They're still going to Federal prison.
 
2021-05-11 11:20:37 PM  
If they do get off their communities will have an effective blue print on how to legally deal with them the next time they go jogging.

/walking?
//power chairing?
 
2021-05-11 11:23:45 PM  
It sounds like these guys f*cked around, pretty sure court's going to result in them finding out.
 
2021-05-11 11:25:24 PM  

Godscrack: C'mon people. We all know how this is gonna turn out.

They will have heavy financial support from the KIan, law enforcement and conservative Christian leaders.


Derek Chauvin had a pretty big war chest and it didn't stop his conviction. It will fund a metric farkton of appeals, but at least he's in prison while he tries.

Make stupidity, or in this case, racism expensive as hell until we can actually make it physically painful.
 
2021-05-11 11:26:49 PM  
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2021-05-11 11:30:23 PM  

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I find it hilarious that people think these guys are going to be welcomed with open arms into a prison gang and protected.
 
2021-05-11 11:32:09 PM  
Get them for first degree murder, but ditch this arbitrary "hate crime" bullshiat. Not that it wasn't but that law is way too much "in the eye of the beholder" instead of "logic".
 
2021-05-11 11:32:57 PM  
I have been to the derposphere!

The two major talking points the derp brigade is still circulating:
He deserved it because he had a criminal record.
He wasn't really jogging.

That's it. That's the justification for murder.
 
2021-05-11 11:34:30 PM  

chuggernaught: He wasn't really jogging.


Fake joggers are the most serous threat facing the nation.
 
2021-05-11 11:35:13 PM  
Pretty sure this is the product of many generations of inbreeding.
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This one is only a few generations
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But he really rocks that Moe haircut.
 
2021-05-11 11:35:50 PM  
Better be the 'right' white folks though...

Personally, I'd happly knot the rope and toss it over a tree limb...
 
2021-05-11 11:35:54 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: With helpful pic of what 3 racist, lying, lynching pig-f*ckers look like

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Go get 'em, Merrick.


What is it with awful white people being ugly? I'm white! What a bad joke.
 
2021-05-11 11:36:09 PM  

Creepy Lurker Guy: chuggernaught: He wasn't really jogging.

Fake joggers are the most serous threat facing the nation.


If you think a jogger isn't really jogging, you should be allowed to kill them.

This is what some people actually believe.
 
2021-05-11 11:36:15 PM  
They recorded themselves murdering a person out for a jog.  We know beyond any doubt that they killed him and did it for no reason.

We should sandblast them to death and call it a day
 
2021-05-11 11:37:20 PM  

Godscrack: C'mon people. We all know how this is gonna turn out.

They will have heavy financial support from the KIan, law enforcement and conservative Christian leaders.


Wha? Heavy Financial support...from the Klan? There are about 8 broke rednecks in the Klan, total. I really doubt it.
 
2021-05-11 11:38:30 PM  
These are the type of people who firmly believe that Ahmed was up to no good because there no reason for a young black man to be out jogging unless he was up to no good.  They'll go to prison and hook up with the white supremacists group who will reinforce their delusions and be further indoctrinated.  There is no chance they could ever reform.
 
2021-05-11 11:40:25 PM  

Tom Marvolo Bombadil: If they do get off their communities will have an effective blue print on how to legally deal with them the next time they go jogging.

/walking?
//power chairing?


/// extreme sitting

Hopefully with a side juice.  Like 20000 volts or so.
 
2021-05-11 11:42:23 PM  

Tom Marvolo Bombadil: If they do get off their communities will have an effective blue print on how to legally deal with them the next time they go jogging.

/walking?
//power chairing?


Jogging? That lot? The most exercise they would have got was waddling from their trailer to their truck.

They need to be intimate with the corrections system for a long, long time.
 
2021-05-11 11:43:50 PM  
Yeah soooo, the venire for a federal court draws from a much larger population pool than the criminal court in your county where you murdered basically the only black guy.
 
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2021-05-11 11:44:48 PM  

chuggernaught: The two major talking points the derp brigade is still circulating:
He deserved it because he had a criminal record.
He wasn't really jogging.


depraved.  Just depraved.
 
2021-05-11 11:46:10 PM  

Klom Dark: Get them for first degree murder, but ditch this arbitrary "hate crime" bullshiat. Not that it wasn't but that law is way too much "in the eye of the beholder" instead of "logic".


It has to do with remorse and recidivism.
 
2021-05-11 11:46:59 PM  
Keep in mind that no one in a position of authority had any intention of doing anything about this crime until their own farking lawyer released the snuff video they recorded.
 
2021-05-11 11:51:37 PM  

Klom Dark: Get them for first degree murder, but ditch this arbitrary "hate crime" bullshiat. Not that it wasn't but that law is way too much "in the eye of the beholder" instead of "logic".


Motive has been a significant factor in criminal law for centuries.
 
2021-05-11 11:57:36 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: With helpful pic of what 3 racist, lying, lynching pig-f*ckers look like

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Go get 'em, Merrick.


Those are some ugly MFs.
 
2021-05-11 11:58:35 PM  
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2021-05-11 11:59:31 PM  

cretinbob: Hoban Washburne: cretinbob: Good
Pleading now would likely draw a lesser sentence.

I don't know the sentencing intricacies for this particular case, but I would guess that a second degree murder charge (or equivalent) would have likely been the least severe charge the prosecution would offer.  That is essentially a death sentence for poppa, and probably not far off for the son.  It actually makes sense for the defense not to take a deal here, but I would feel a lot more comfortable if dad and son had just accepted a plea deal.  I don't trust the system enough to be excited by this, but I guess we'll see.

You have several chances to plead guilty, starting with arraignment. Each chance you get means more work for the court. So the penalties go up if you are found guilty at trial because you had a chance to admit to your crime before thousands to millions have been spent.
That came from a judge in court.
I was an observer.


That's perfectly reasonable, until you flip it on its head and imagine how that figures into the calculus of an innocent person having to decide between taking a plea or risking being punished for exercising their perfect right to a trial.  The system runs on that twist, don't pretend that it doesn't.
 
2021-05-12 12:01:09 AM  

GrinzGrimly: It sounds like these guys f*cked around, pretty sure court's going to result in them finding out.


Sounds like you are using the wrong alt.
 
2021-05-12 12:02:34 AM  

Klom Dark: Get them for first degree murder, but ditch this arbitrary "hate crime" bullshiat. Not that it wasn't but that law is way too much "in the eye of the beholder" instead of "logic".


Hey Klooless in the Dark.

You must have missed the security cam where there were many white folk who also were out and about looking at the construction site, but no one ran them down and executed them.

Hmm, I wonder what the difference was.
 
2021-05-12 12:02:52 AM  

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Uncanny resemblance there...
 
2021-05-12 12:05:43 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: With helpful pic of what 3 racist, lying, lynching pig-f*ckers look like

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Go get 'em, Merrick.


That is one of the best inbreeding promotional brochures I have ever seen. Christ what a bunch of sister farking losers that is right there.
 
2021-05-12 12:08:50 AM  

Klom Dark: Get them for first degree murder, but ditch this arbitrary "hate crime" bullshiat. Not that it wasn't but that law is way too much "in the eye of the beholder" instead of "logic".


No, get them for everything you can, and then execute them on live farking television as a warning to all the other inbred whyte motherfarkers running around thinking they are the saviors of western civilization.
 
2021-05-12 12:15:47 AM  

Sim Tree: If you think a jogger isn't really jogging, you should be allowed to kill them.


They could be doing the shimmy, or moonwalking.
 
2021-05-12 12:18:04 AM  
They do not realize that things have changed, and they were so arrogant that they filmed their own crime
 
2021-05-12 12:22:10 AM  
More Republicans going to prison.
Good.
 
2021-05-12 12:24:50 AM  

Klom Dark: Get them for first degree murder, but ditch this arbitrary "hate crime" bullshiat. Not that it wasn't but that law is way too much "in the eye of the beholder" instead of "logic".


Why the hell have hate crime laws if you're not going to use them against hate crimes?
 
2021-05-12 12:25:07 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: With helpful pic of what 3 racist, lying, lynching pig-f*ckers look like

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Go get 'em, Merrick.


if you've ever wondered what the dudes at a klan rally look like under their hoods, here's your representative sample
 
2021-05-12 12:25:43 AM  

Super_pope: They recorded themselves murdering a person out for a jog.  We know beyond any doubt that they killed him and did it for no reason.

We should sandblast them to death and call it a day


Oh, that's messy.  I suggest locking them in a room without food and water and coming back ten days later to pick up the corpses.
 
2021-05-12 12:26:11 AM  
Problem as I see it is that this is only happening because their lawyer put the video out there.

These guys went out with intent and knew what they were doing. How often had they done this, and just never recorded it or done it in a less public place?

They act like this should be no big deal and that tells me that to them it's normal.
 
2021-05-12 12:26:58 AM  

austerity101: Klom Dark: Get them for first degree murder, but ditch this arbitrary "hate crime" bullshiat. Not that it wasn't but that law is way too much "in the eye of the beholder" instead of "logic".

Why the hell have hate crime laws if you're not going to use them against hate crimes?


thats not what they were designed for
you're supposed to use them to give muslims 75 consecutive life terms in gitmo when they commit boilerplate shootings that white dudes do every week
 
2021-05-12 12:31:49 AM  
"The men charged in last year's killing of Ahmaud Arbery entered not guilty pleas on federal hate crime and attempted kidnapping charges Tuesday. "
 
2021-05-12 12:39:19 AM  

cretinbob: Hoban Washburne: cretinbob: Hoban Washburne: cretinbob: Good
Pleading now would likely draw a lesser sentence.

I don't know the sentencing intricacies for this particular case, but I would guess that a second degree murder charge (or equivalent) would have likely been the least severe charge the prosecution would offer.  That is essentially a death sentence for poppa, and probably not far off for the son.  It actually makes sense for the defense not to take a deal here, but I would feel a lot more comfortable if dad and son had just accepted a plea deal.  I don't trust the system enough to be excited by this, but I guess we'll see.

You have several chances to plead guilty, starting with arraignment. Each chance you get means more work for the court. So the penalties go up if you are found guilty at trial because you had a chance to admit to your crime before thousands to millions have been spent.
That came from a judge in court.
I was an observer.

Ah, okay.  I get what you were saying now. Thanks for the clarification.

Yeah, so plea guilty now and get 10 years, or cost the state lots of money and get life.

By all means, take these assholes to trial and give them life.


A 10 year sentence for at least two of these horseapples is likely a life sentence.

Good.
 
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