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2021-05-11 4:45:02 PM  
Burn the f*ckers down, Liz. We'll still think your stances are terrible neocon bullshiat, but we'll respect you a bit more for taking as many of your comrades down with you
 
2021-05-11 6:10:52 PM  

somedude210: Burn the f*ckers down, Liz. We'll still think your stances are terrible neocon bullshiat, but we'll respect you a bit more for taking as many of your comrades down with you


Respect, like I respect my broken clock can be right twice a day.
 
2021-05-11 6:24:05 PM  

yohohogreengiant: somedude210: Burn the f*ckers down, Liz. We'll still think your stances are terrible neocon bullshiat, but we'll respect you a bit more for taking as many of your comrades down with you

Respect, like I respect my broken clock can be right twice a day.


Hey, I didn't say it was *a lot* of respect, just more so than current. That can be a modicum or an ounce, it's still a net +
 
2021-05-11 6:31:10 PM  
I shall enjoy watching the republican party eat itself.
 
2021-05-11 6:32:53 PM  

bloobeary: I shall enjoy watching the republican party eat itself.


I'm not.   I just want saneness.    The craziness is frightening.
 
2021-05-11 6:46:41 PM  
Fark right wingers: libs just want us all the be the same and in lockstep

Fark right winger later that day: stop the steal!!
 
2021-05-11 6:47:05 PM  
This is all about her power. She doesn't really give much of a f*ck beyond that. She's spent her entire career lying, so why would this be the line for her?
 
2021-05-11 6:48:08 PM  
It would be great if she flipped from Rep to Dem once they boot her from leadership. At that point, your own party is actively rejecting you so why not?
 
2021-05-11 6:48:16 PM  

raerae1980: bloobeary: I shall enjoy watching the republican party eat itself.

I'm not.   I just want saneness.    The craziness is frightening.


This. If your asshole Trumpers' next door house is on fire, you put down your drink and put it out before you catch on fire.

The rest of us need to keep our own shiat in order and that chaos needs to stop.

Afterwards, sure, mix a fresh cocktail and go back to maximum schadenfreude.
 
2021-05-11 6:48:22 PM  
OOOOHHHHHHH

It looks like Manchin has some competition for scumbag Republican that Democrats want to suck up to.
 
2021-05-11 6:48:33 PM  

austerity101: This is all about her power. She doesn't really give much of a f*ck beyond that. She's spent her entire career lying, so why would this be the line for her?


She's a Cheney. You don't fark with Shotgun Dick's daughter and live to tell the tale.
 
2021-05-11 6:48:52 PM  
Do it Cheney, let's keep these assholes from ever holding public office again.
 
2021-05-11 6:49:42 PM  

yohohogreengiant: raerae1980: bloobeary: I shall enjoy watching the republican party eat itself.

I'm not.   I just want saneness.    The craziness is frightening.

This. If your asshole Trumpers' next door house is on fire, you put down your drink and put it out before you catch on fire.

The rest of us need to keep our own shiat in order and that chaos needs to stop.

Afterwards, sure, mix a fresh cocktail and go back to maximum schadenfreude.


I don't. I just make sure my own house won't burn down. Theirs can burn to the foundation for all I care.
 
2021-05-11 6:50:44 PM  
Many of her top donors told CNBC last week that they plan to stick with Cheney despite the move by Republicans to oust her from her leadership post.

Cool but how about dropping support for the rest? It does no good if you continue to support the insurrectionists.
 
2021-05-11 6:51:17 PM  
If Maul Cheney gets Big Daddy Darth to weigh in, that might change things.  A bunch of old guard republicans sitting in a conference call with the Derp Brigade and reading them the riot act....

Who am I kidding?   Trump gave those assholes everything they ever dreamed of.    They'll toss her into the sarlacc pit with the rest of the "reasonable" republican douches.
 
2021-05-11 6:51:24 PM  
Liz is gambling that once Trump strokes out, she'll get to pick up the pieces and have first dibs on all the corporate bribes campaign donations.
 
2021-05-11 6:51:51 PM  
There is NO way that anyone who voted R their entire life is ever going to vote for anybody else, regardless of what kind of civil war breaks out.

They'll vote for who they like more in the primary; the crazy or the conservative, but no matter who wins the R gets their vote in the general election.
 
2021-05-11 6:52:17 PM  

Gyrfalcon: yohohogreengiant: raerae1980: bloobeary: I shall enjoy watching the republican party eat itself.

I'm not.   I just want saneness.    The craziness is frightening.

This. If your asshole Trumpers' next door house is on fire, you put down your drink and put it out before you catch on fire.

The rest of us need to keep our own shiat in order and that chaos needs to stop.

Afterwards, sure, mix a fresh cocktail and go back to maximum schadenfreude.

I don't. I just make sure my own house won't burn down. Theirs can burn to the foundation for all I care.


Do you live in a city?
It makes a difference.

Also this is a stretched metaphor. All the roofs here are poured concrete or Galvi.
 
2021-05-11 6:52:41 PM  
Yeah, no. The Big Lie has been canonized. Liz Cheney will be purged as a heretic.
 
2021-05-11 6:55:06 PM  
She should challenge trump to a fistfight for primacy. I'm not sure if it would kill the trump buzz if he got his ass stomped by her but it couldn't hurt.
 
2021-05-11 6:56:07 PM  
FTFA: Dick Cheney has not publicly condemned Trump's stance on the election. People close to him say there is no sign he's actively lobbying members of Congress to try to help his daughter keep her leadership spot.

OK sure. But this here:
Cheney, a staunch conservative, has been telling key donors and supporters behind the scenes that she is going to continue to hold Trump and the Republican Party accountable for what she has called the "Big Lie," said these people.

Her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, has been involved in these talks as well, the people said.

That right there is what would start making me nervous if I was a GOP politician supporting the big lie. Dick Cheney is a world class asshole, but he also know how to get shiat done when he wants to, and has spent most of his career fighting for conservative awfulness pulling levers behind the scenes more than in front of a camera.
 
2021-05-11 7:00:12 PM  
Yeah, maybe THIS is what will finally destroy the GOP, not the other ten thousand previously unthinkable terrible things Republicans have done recently. Face it, we're stuck with these nut job assholes for the foreseeable future.
 
2021-05-11 7:00:42 PM  
Keep in mind, he's not too good on winningwars, though.
 
2021-05-11 7:01:59 PM  

mongbiohazard: FTFA: Dick Cheney has not publicly condemned Trump's stance on the election. People close to him say there is no sign he's actively lobbying members of Congress to try to help his daughter keep her leadership spot.

OK sure. But this here:
Cheney, a staunch conservative, has been telling key donors and supporters behind the scenes that she is going to continue to hold Trump and the Republican Party accountable for what she has called the "Big Lie," said these people.

Her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, has been involved in these talks as well, the people said.

That right there is what would start making me nervous if I was a GOP politician supporting the big lie. Dick Cheney is a world class asshole, but he also know how to get shiat done when he wants to, and has spent most of his career fighting for conservative awfulness pulling levers behind the scenes more than in front of a camera.


He is an oldschool politician that taught his daughter. They don't want to believe that they lost the party to a moron. They want to grab on to it and bring it back so the Cheneys can be the next Kennedys or Bushes. Their time is done but much like neoliberals they are fighting like hell to try and stay in power because that is where the money is. They are all disgusting people who only care about their own personal or familial wealth.
 
2021-05-11 7:02:26 PM  
"Her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, has been involved in these talks as well, the people said."

Well of course he is. It's not like you can use any travel agent to setup the rendition of a Republican representative to a Slovakian CIA black site.
 
2021-05-11 7:02:45 PM  

EyeballKid: Keep in mind, he's not too good on winningwars, though.


All they need to do is weaken the GOP long enough to not make gains in 2022, and let the D's pick up a couple seats. In the long term, we're never getting rid of regressives and it will take more than the John Lewis act to unfark our systems away from weighting GOP voters votes more heavily, but it sure will be a start.
 
2021-05-11 7:04:28 PM  

sinner4ever: mongbiohazard: FTFA: Dick Cheney has not publicly condemned Trump's stance on the election. People close to him say there is no sign he's actively lobbying members of Congress to try to help his daughter keep her leadership spot.

OK sure. But this here:
Cheney, a staunch conservative, has been telling key donors and supporters behind the scenes that she is going to continue to hold Trump and the Republican Party accountable for what she has called the "Big Lie," said these people.

Her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, has been involved in these talks as well, the people said.

That right there is what would start making me nervous if I was a GOP politician supporting the big lie. Dick Cheney is a world class asshole, but he also know how to get shiat done when he wants to, and has spent most of his career fighting for conservative awfulness pulling levers behind the scenes more than in front of a camera.

He is an oldschool politician that taught his daughter. They don't want to believe that they lost the party to a moron. They want to grab on to it and bring it back so the Cheneys can be the next Kennedys or Bushes. Their time is done but much like neoliberals they are fighting like hell to try and stay in power because that is where the money is. They are all disgusting people who only care about their own personal or familial wealth.


Whatever they want = meh.

So long as what they DO is keep the GOP fighting each other at least a little then maybe the GOP won't completely fark the country some more starting in 2022.
 
2021-05-11 7:05:04 PM  

austerity101: This is all about her power. She doesn't really give much of a f*ck beyond that. She's spent her entire career lying, so why would this be the line for her?


So she's lying about her beliefs that Trump lost the election and is responsible for 1/6? I don't get your logic here. She may be a garbage person, but I don't see how taking this position would be in the interest of seeking power.
 
2021-05-11 7:05:40 PM  

mongbiohazard: FTFA: Dick Cheney has not publicly condemned Trump's stance on the election. People close to him say there is no sign he's actively lobbying members of Congress to try to help his daughter keep her leadership spot.

OK sure. But this here:
Cheney, a staunch conservative, has been telling key donors and supporters behind the scenes that she is going to continue to hold Trump and the Republican Party accountable for what she has called the "Big Lie," said these people.

Her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, has been involved in these talks as well, the people said.

That right there is what would start making me nervous if I was a GOP politician supporting the big lie. Dick Cheney is a world class asshole, but he also know how to get shiat done when he wants to, and has spent most of his career fighting for conservative awfulness pulling levers behind the scenes more than in front of a camera.


When he shot that guy in the face it certainly wasn't behind the scenes.

I don't know why THIS confrontation is getting all the attention, non-Trump Republicans have been a thing since 2015. Even if Cheney and Romney somehow reign in the Redcaps and steer the Party back to sanity, it's not gonna fix any problems actual people have. They'll push the same shiat they always have: "Climate change isn't real, those droughts aren't that bad, okay maybe climate change is real but we actually want it to happen! Gay people shouldn't have rights! We want more suicidal trans kids! Wages are too high! Stop asking about healthcare*! Everyone who isn't white is an existential threat to our way of life! We need to go BACK to Afghanistan! Cut education, more cops!"

Nothing will change for normal decent people if psychos control the Party or not
/*They wouldn't actually acknowledge this problem
 
2021-05-11 7:07:54 PM  

Gyrfalcon: austerity101: This is all about her power. She doesn't really give much of a f*ck beyond that. She's spent her entire career lying, so why would this be the line for her?

She's a Cheney. You don't fark with Shotgun Dick's daughter and live to tell the tale.


Shotgun Dick is the name of my Gwar themed Steely Dan tribute band...
 
2021-05-11 7:08:02 PM  
FARK

THIS

POLITICAL

​THEATRE


Dems need to get on on all outlets and lambast the ever living shiat out of Manchin and Sinema for singlehandedly preventing the country from progressing.  We cannot afford to have 3.5 years of televised fascist rhetoric being given any more legitimacy.


This stupid GQP infighting/purity test is Tea Party 2020.  We saw this shiat in 2010 and they keep publicly infighting to distract from the real problems and issues with their party from getting air time.
 
2021-05-11 7:08:47 PM  

mongbiohazard: sinner4ever: mongbiohazard: FTFA: Dick Cheney has not publicly condemned Trump's stance on the election. People close to him say there is no sign he's actively lobbying members of Congress to try to help his daughter keep her leadership spot.

OK sure. But this here:
Cheney, a staunch conservative, has been telling key donors and supporters behind the scenes that she is going to continue to hold Trump and the Republican Party accountable for what she has called the "Big Lie," said these people.

Her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, has been involved in these talks as well, the people said.

That right there is what would start making me nervous if I was a GOP politician supporting the big lie. Dick Cheney is a world class asshole, but he also know how to get shiat done when he wants to, and has spent most of his career fighting for conservative awfulness pulling levers behind the scenes more than in front of a camera.

He is an oldschool politician that taught his daughter. They don't want to believe that they lost the party to a moron. They want to grab on to it and bring it back so the Cheneys can be the next Kennedys or Bushes. Their time is done but much like neoliberals they are fighting like hell to try and stay in power because that is where the money is. They are all disgusting people who only care about their own personal or familial wealth.

Whatever they want = meh.

So long as what they DO is keep the GOP fighting each other at least a little then maybe the GOP won't completely fark the country some more starting in 2022.


The problem comes from the multiple feelers being sent out in the media asking if she would consider joining the Democratic party with her record of voting with Trump 93% of the time.
 
2021-05-11 7:11:39 PM  

austerity101: This is all about her power. She doesn't really give much of a f*ck beyond that. She's spent her entire career lying, so why would this be the line for her?


Yep.  She's taking the long gamble that Trump & co will lose and she will rise as the Republican hero
 
2021-05-11 7:12:13 PM  

mongbiohazard: FTFA: Dick Cheney has not publicly condemned Trump's stance on the election. People close to him say there is no sign he's actively lobbying members of Congress to try to help his daughter keep her leadership spot.

OK sure. But this here:
Cheney, a staunch conservative, has been telling key donors and supporters behind the scenes that she is going to continue to hold Trump and the Republican Party accountable for what she has called the "Big Lie," said these people.

Her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, has been involved in these talks as well, the people said.

That right there is what would start making me nervous if I was a GOP politician supporting the big lie. Dick Cheney is a world class asshole, but he also know how to get shiat done when he wants to, and has spent most of his career fighting for conservative awfulness pulling levers behind the scenes more than in front of a camera.


That's the last thing any modern GOPer fears. An old, out-of-touch corporate goof who doesn't understand that eyeballs=political power? Lol bring all ur shotguns, Daddy-o.
 
2021-05-11 7:13:57 PM  

mongbiohazard: FTFA: Dick Cheney has not publicly condemned Trump's stance on the election. People close to him say there is no sign he's actively lobbying members of Congress to try to help his daughter keep her leadership spot.

OK sure. But this here:
Cheney, a staunch conservative, has been telling key donors and supporters behind the scenes that she is going to continue to hold Trump and the Republican Party accountable for what she has called the "Big Lie," said these people.

Her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, has been involved in these talks as well, the people said.

That right there is what would start making me nervous if I was a GOP politician supporting the big lie. Dick Cheney is a world class asshole, but he also know how to get shiat done when he wants to, and has spent most of his career fighting for conservative awfulness pulling levers behind the scenes more than in front of a camera.


Dirty trickster neocons still loyal to Cheney are still deeply embedded in the pentagon, NSA, the CIA and basements around Washington.  It would be nice to see him send a "sleeps with the fishes" message to one or two (or more) of these farks and burn them to send a message.  I doubt the current pack of halfwits could have the capacity to adequately fire back, but it would, again, be pleasant to see them walk directly into evilfark Cheney's cannonfire.
 
2021-05-11 7:14:25 PM  

sinner4ever: mongbiohazard: sinner4ever: mongbiohazard: FTFA: Dick Cheney has not publicly condemned Trump's stance on the election. People close to him say there is no sign he's actively lobbying members of Congress to try to help his daughter keep her leadership spot.

OK sure. But this here:
Cheney, a staunch conservative, has been telling key donors and supporters behind the scenes that she is going to continue to hold Trump and the Republican Party accountable for what she has called the "Big Lie," said these people.

Her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, has been involved in these talks as well, the people said.

That right there is what would start making me nervous if I was a GOP politician supporting the big lie. Dick Cheney is a world class asshole, but he also know how to get shiat done when he wants to, and has spent most of his career fighting for conservative awfulness pulling levers behind the scenes more than in front of a camera.

He is an oldschool politician that taught his daughter. They don't want to believe that they lost the party to a moron. They want to grab on to it and bring it back so the Cheneys can be the next Kennedys or Bushes. Their time is done but much like neoliberals they are fighting like hell to try and stay in power because that is where the money is. They are all disgusting people who only care about their own personal or familial wealth.

Whatever they want = meh.

So long as what they DO is keep the GOP fighting each other at least a little then maybe the GOP won't completely fark the country some more starting in 2022.

The problem comes from the multiple feelers being sent out in the media asking if she would consider joining the Democratic party with her record of voting with Trump 93% of the time.


Anybody asking that is just plain stupid, and can be ignored.

Liz - or her dad - are toxic for the country, and slavishly committed to "conservatism". Them vs the MAGAs is just two different flavors of dog shiat fighting. That's just good because the more they fight each other the less damage they can do to everyone else.
 
2021-05-11 7:18:26 PM  

Professor_Doctor: It would be great if she flipped from Rep to Dem once they boot her from leadership. At that point, your own party is actively rejecting you so why not?


Because democrats don't want her?
 
2021-05-11 7:19:30 PM  

My Klezmer Metal Cover Band: mongbiohazard: FTFA: Dick Cheney has not publicly condemned Trump's stance on the election. People close to him say there is no sign he's actively lobbying members of Congress to try to help his daughter keep her leadership spot.

OK sure. But this here:
Cheney, a staunch conservative, has been telling key donors and supporters behind the scenes that she is going to continue to hold Trump and the Republican Party accountable for what she has called the "Big Lie," said these people.

Her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, has been involved in these talks as well, the people said.

That right there is what would start making me nervous if I was a GOP politician supporting the big lie. Dick Cheney is a world class asshole, but he also know how to get shiat done when he wants to, and has spent most of his career fighting for conservative awfulness pulling levers behind the scenes more than in front of a camera.

That's the last thing any modern GOPer fears. An old, out-of-touch corporate goof who doesn't understand that eyeballs=political power? Lol bring all ur shotguns, Daddy-o.


The money. Watch the money. If Dick is talking to the donors, that's the part I'd be concerned about were I one of them. The big money donors are where all the kingmaking and unmaking is done.
 
2021-05-11 7:20:06 PM  
it's*how to start a war
 
2021-05-11 7:21:43 PM  

Gyrfalcon: yohohogreengiant: raerae1980: bloobeary: I shall enjoy watching the republican party eat itself.

I'm not.   I just want saneness.    The craziness is frightening.

This. If your asshole Trumpers' next door house is on fire, you put down your drink and put it out before you catch on fire.

The rest of us need to keep our own shiat in order and that chaos needs to stop.

Afterwards, sure, mix a fresh cocktail and go back to maximum schadenfreude.

I don't. I just make sure my own house won't burn down. Theirs can burn to the foundation for all I care.


Normally I'd agree, but nearly 40% of the country supports these idiots, so if the house on either side of yours catches fire, well, you're in for some collateral damage no matter how much you would rather stand there and chortle.
 
2021-05-11 7:27:41 PM  

ProcrastinationStation: austerity101: This is all about her power. She doesn't really give much of a f*ck beyond that. She's spent her entire career lying, so why would this be the line for her?

Yep.  She's taking the long gamble that Trump & co will lose and she will rise as the Republican hero


The GOP base has an extremely short memory. It would be a stupid bet, and I doubt someone who probably has an (R) on her birth certificate would make it.
 
2021-05-11 7:27:47 PM  

raerae1980: bloobeary: I shall enjoy watching the republican party eat itself.

I'm not.   I just want saneness.    The craziness is frightening.


The sanity you're looking for never existed in the party. She is just a grifter upset that the rubes she was using to gain power and wealth are out of her control.
 
2021-05-11 7:30:35 PM  
Start a War - Static-x
Youtube _l0fiRnaHuI
Eh, why not.
 
2021-05-11 7:34:02 PM  

sinner4ever: OOOOHHHHHHH

It looks like Manchin has some competition for scumbag Republican that Democrats want to suck up to.


Who is sucking up to Manchin? Putting up with his shiat to actually do something, sure.
 
2021-05-11 7:34:12 PM  

monsatano: [YouTube video: Start a War - Static-x]Eh, why not.


KMFDM- WWIII
Youtube LOFf8iFsYbA
 
2021-05-11 7:35:34 PM  

Professor_Doctor: It would be great if she flipped from Rep to Dem once they boot her from leadership. At that point, your own party is actively rejecting you so why not?


Cause politicians that move the party farther to the right is exactly what we need? She's doing this cause she has to. The big corporate donors have been getting skittish since the insurrectionists and with the legislation coming out of red states. It's all bad for business. Now is not the time for liberals to make concessions to big business.
 
2021-05-11 7:35:52 PM  

yohohogreengiant: raerae1980: bloobeary: I shall enjoy watching the republican party eat itself.

I'm not.   I just want saneness.    The craziness is frightening.

This. If your asshole Trumpers' next door house is on fire, you put down your drink and put it out before you catch on fire.

The rest of us need to keep our own shiat in order and that chaos needs to stop.

Afterwards, sure, mix a fresh cocktail and go back to maximum schadenfreude.


Agreed. I will put it out with a shovel.
 
2021-05-11 7:36:04 PM  

Professor_Doctor: It would be great if she flipped from Rep to Dem once they boot her from leadership. At that point, your own party is actively rejecting you so why not?


She's gone on record as being staunchly against the "radical leftist agenda" of giving the poor and working class a leg up so that won't happen, and fark her anyway. What she's good for now is shining a light on how the GOP has become a party of authoritarian leg-humpers and load-swallowers for Donald Trump, and how grotesquely pathetic they have become as a result. We knew it all along, but it sure is great to see aired out in public!
 
2021-05-11 7:36:32 PM  

ReaverZ: sinner4ever: OOOOHHHHHHH

It looks like Manchin has some competition for scumbag Republican that Democrats want to suck up to.

Who is sucking up to Manchin? Putting up with his shiat to actually do something, sure.


Biden sent Harris to West Virginia to get support from the voters when he balked.
Manchin flipped out and they both backed off and have been engaging with him ever since.
 
2021-05-11 7:40:46 PM  

Avery614: monsatano: [YouTube video: Start a War - Static-x]Eh, why not.

[YouTube video: KMFDM- WWIII]


99% of my green farkies do not disappoint.
 
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