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2021-05-11 4:40:09 PM  
Mostly a negotiating tactic to pressure the Oakland City Council to move forward while they haggle over how much the city is going to kick in.

There's a lot of doomerism on this project given the history, but it's likely to happen at this point.
 
2021-05-11 5:12:20 PM  
Stop sending us Oakland's trash!
 
2021-05-11 5:28:26 PM  

Cagey B: Mostly a negotiating tactic to pressure the Oakland City Council to move forward while they haggle over how much the city is going to kick in.

There's a lot of doomerism on this project given the history, but it's likely to happen at this point.


I mean, even with stiff competition from Saint Pete, there really is no competition: The stadium was already not that good before Mount Davis, but now it is clearly the worst park in the majors.
 
2021-05-11 5:44:45 PM  
They'll always be the Kansas City A's to me...
 
2021-05-11 5:46:11 PM  
The stadium was already not that good before Mount Davis, but now it is clearly the worst park in the majors.

You shut your whore mouth! The Coliseum was totally fine before Mount Davis. I spent more time than I care to recall in the LF bleachers. I mean, $4 walkups, c'mon. Good sightlines, good weather, not too outrageously $$$$ beer, never sold out.
 
2021-05-11 5:51:23 PM  
This is bullshiat and I'm a...

Never mind. My team doesn't exist.
 
2021-05-11 5:54:34 PM  
So Tampa to Montreal, Oakland to Vancouver
 
2021-05-11 5:56:48 PM  
To be fair there are no better colors for a Las Vegas team than green and gold. Also the A's inspired "Moneyball".

/ The A's are my team and I would be bummed -- just like the Raiders though, I'll live.
 
2021-05-11 6:05:30 PM  

AuralArgument: So Tampa to Montreal, Oakland to Vancouver


Well we are hitting the time of year when Canadians need to think they can win at SOMETHING.
 
2021-05-11 6:06:37 PM  

drewogatory: The stadium was already not that good before Mount Davis, but now it is clearly the worst park in the majors.

You shut your whore mouth! The Coliseum was totally fine before Mount Davis. I spent more time than I care to recall in the LF bleachers. I mean, $4 walkups, c'mon. Good sightlines, good weather, not too outrageously $$$$ beer, never sold out.


Same here - we were the first in line for opening nights in the 80s - tailgating for hours - family came from two other states - imagine if they just upgraded around what was there before 'Davis'

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2021-05-11 6:22:21 PM  

Thanks for the Meme-ries: drewogatory: The stadium was already not that good before Mount Davis, but now it is clearly the worst park in the majors.

You shut your whore mouth! The Coliseum was totally fine before Mount Davis. I spent more time than I care to recall in the LF bleachers. I mean, $4 walkups, c'mon. Good sightlines, good weather, not too outrageously $$$$ beer, never sold out.

Same here - we were the first in line for opening nights in the 80s - tailgating for hours - family came from two other states - imagine if they just upgraded around what was there before 'Davis'

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If a concrete concourse with hot dog stands is wrong, I don't want to be right. Hot dogs, peanuts, those shiatty nachos and one cheaper beer option is all I need at a ballgame. fark, I'm happy to sit on actual bleachers.
 
2021-05-11 6:22:23 PM  
Time to start tearing down The Rio.
 
2021-05-11 6:26:17 PM  
If not Montreal, Raleigh, North Carolina, is the market they should go to.  No MLB baseball within a 4 hour drive in any direction.  No spring-season competition for the disposable income dollar, and only the Hurricanes NHL team as competition for it at all.
 
2021-05-11 6:39:52 PM  

drewogatory: The stadium was already not that good before Mount Davis, but now it is clearly the worst park in the majors.

You shut your whore mouth! The Coliseum was totally fine before Mount Davis. I spent more time than I care to recall in the LF bleachers. I mean, $4 walkups, c'mon. Good sightlines, good weather, not too outrageously $$$$ beer, never sold out.


So tell me how we rewind the clock back to 1995.  That abomination is still there.

Good, for the A's, find a better park (any park is better).  I guess the Portland Diamond Project is still a thing but with Covid there's been no movement.  I'd like to see a park built and the A's move here.
 
2021-05-11 6:41:48 PM  
Mount Davis does technically make it have the highest seating capacity of any current MLB stadium (Dodger Stadium would be second, although they actually fill all 50k+ seats on a regular basis (well, pre-covid)).
 
2021-05-11 6:53:26 PM  
Glad I'm a fan of a team that only relocates it's name every once in a while. Go California Anaheim Los Angeles Angels of Los Angeles!
 
2021-05-11 7:05:29 PM  

Ponzholio: They'll always be the Kansas City A's to me...


You mean the Philadelphia A's.
 
2021-05-11 7:06:33 PM  

Ponzholio: They'll always be the Kansas City A's to me...


They'll always be the Philadelphia athletics to me.
 
2021-05-11 7:07:30 PM  
Are they going to roomie with the raiders again? How cute.
 
2021-05-11 7:20:14 PM  

Cagey B: Mostly a negotiating tactic to pressure the Oakland City Council to move forward while they haggle over how much the city is going to kick in.

There's a lot of doomerism on this project given the history, but it's likely to happen at this point.


No, that is not the case - the A's are willing to finance the whole stadium themselves, they just want permission to use the land they already own down by the Port of Oakland and the city council just stonewalled them because they have no idea what to do with the colosseum if the A's moved.  This one is squarely on the city council and I do not blame the A's for being open to relocating after all the crap they have gone through.

To clarify - this is not the same as the Braves screwing over Atlanta a few years back, the A's legitimately need a new stadium and are will to build it themselves if the city will just give them permission. . .
 
2021-05-11 7:22:56 PM  

drewogatory: The stadium was already not that good before Mount Davis, but now it is clearly the worst park in the majors.

You shut your whore mouth! The Coliseum was totally fine before Mount Davis. I spent more time than I care to recall in the LF bleachers. I mean, $4 walkups, c'mon. Good sightlines, good weather, not too outrageously $$$$ beer, never sold out.


I never had the chance to see it since I moved too the bay area only about 10 years ago - but I heard from a lot of people that before Mount Davis it was a great place to enjoy a game with views of the bay (and beat the heck out of the mess that was Candlestick at the time)
 
2021-05-11 7:23:54 PM  
rudemix:

Don't be so crass.
 
2021-05-11 7:25:08 PM  

snoopy2zero: Time to start tearing down The Rio.


Actually, the Rio's actually going to get rebranded.
 
2021-05-11 7:58:17 PM  

ScottyShaps: Cagey B: Mostly a negotiating tactic to pressure the Oakland City Council to move forward while they haggle over how much the city is going to kick in.

There's a lot of doomerism on this project given the history, but it's likely to happen at this point.

No, that is not the case - the A's are willing to finance the whole stadium themselves, they just want permission to use the land they already own down by the Port of Oakland and the city council just stonewalled them because they have no idea what to do with the colosseum if the A's moved.  This one is squarely on the city council and I do not blame the A's for being open to relocating after all the crap they have gone through.

To clarify - this is not the same as the Braves screwing over Atlanta a few years back, the A's legitimately need a new stadium and are will to build it themselves if the city will just give them permission. . .


That's what O'Malley said to New York (when he wanted a new spot in Brooklyn).  New York didn't budge (Moses wanted the team in Queens), so he moved the Dodgers to L.A.

I could see Oakland losing the team due to city incompetence.  Not like it hasn't before.
 
2021-05-11 8:00:30 PM  

rudemix: Glad I'm a fan of a team that only relocates it's name every once in a while. Go California Anaheim Los Angeles Angels of Los Angeles!


I've just taken to calling them the Lost Angels
 
2021-05-11 8:03:48 PM  

Craw Fu: rudemix: Glad I'm a fan of a team that only relocates it's name every once in a while. Go California Anaheim Los Angeles Angels of Los Angeles!

I've just taken to calling them the Lost Angels


That's only because the Angels owner doesn't grasp that they need pitchers too.

/hoping they get some now that Pujols is off the books....
 
2021-05-11 8:07:24 PM  

Ponzholio: They'll always be the Kansas City A's to me...


Don't tell Gritty.
 
2021-05-11 8:28:53 PM  

OrionXVI: Craw Fu: rudemix: Glad I'm a fan of a team that only relocates it's name every once in a while. Go California Anaheim Los Angeles Angels of Los Angeles!

I've just taken to calling them the Lost Angels

That's only because the Angels owner doesn't grasp that they need pitchers too.

/hoping they get some now that Pujols is off the books....


Except he's -not- off the books. They're just paying him to not play.
 
2021-05-11 8:35:52 PM  
Montreal was looking for a team...
/not a chance in hell
 
2021-05-11 8:44:58 PM  

Social Justice Warlock: Montreal was looking for a team...
/not a chance in hell


They actually have a tentative deal to share the Rays with St. Pete starting in 2028.
 
2021-05-11 8:48:24 PM  

The Bestest: Social Justice Warlock: Montreal was looking for a team...
/not a chance in hell

They actually have a tentative deal to share the Rays with St. Pete starting in 2028.


Like the mayor and city council of St. Pete's would ever let that happen without a nasty court fight...
 
2021-05-11 9:09:27 PM  

drewogatory: Thanks for the Meme-ries: drewogatory: The stadium was already not that good before Mount Davis, but now it is clearly the worst park in the majors.

You shut your whore mouth! The Coliseum was totally fine before Mount Davis. I spent more time than I care to recall in the LF bleachers. I mean, $4 walkups, c'mon. Good sightlines, good weather, not too outrageously $$$$ beer, never sold out.

Same here - we were the first in line for opening nights in the 80s - tailgating for hours - family came from two other states - imagine if they just upgraded around what was there before 'Davis'

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If a concrete concourse with hot dog stands is wrong, I don't want to be right. Hot dogs, peanuts, those shiatty nachos and one cheaper beer option is all I need at a ballgame. fark, I'm happy to sit on actual bleachers.


I'm with you, but You forgot peanuts.
 
2021-05-11 9:13:55 PM  

The Bestest: OrionXVI: Craw Fu: rudemix: Glad I'm a fan of a team that only relocates it's name every once in a while. Go California Anaheim Los Angeles Angels of Los Angeles!

I've just taken to calling them the Lost Angels

That's only because the Angels owner doesn't grasp that they need pitchers too.

/hoping they get some now that Pujols is off the books....

Except he's -not- off the books. They're just paying him to not play.


This.
The Pujols contract was stupid. Arte was played.
 
2021-05-11 9:24:55 PM  

The Bestest: Social Justice Warlock: Montreal was looking for a team...
/not a chance in hell

They actually have a tentative deal to share the Rays with St. Pete starting in 2028.


Most likely won't fly if it's tied to a new stadium... the public is still tepid about publicly financing a stadium, and if it's for HALF a team?!? Not happening.
 
2021-05-11 9:25:44 PM  

ScottyShaps: Cagey B: Mostly a negotiating tactic to pressure the Oakland City Council to move forward while they haggle over how much the city is going to kick in.

There's a lot of doomerism on this project given the history, but it's likely to happen at this point.

No, that is not the case - the A's are willing to finance the whole stadium themselves, they just want permission to use the land they already own down by the Port of Oakland and the city council just stonewalled them because they have no idea what to do with the colosseum if the A's moved.  This one is squarely on the city council and I do not blame the A's for being open to relocating after all the crap they have gone through.

To clarify - this is not the same as the Braves screwing over Atlanta a few years back, the A's legitimately need a new stadium and are will to build it themselves if the city will just give them permission. . .


The A's are indeed financing the stadium. The negotiations are centered around how much of the costs of surrounding infrastructure the city is going to pick up, and on what schedule that's going to be paid. So there's still some public cost to be worked out, but nothing like other projects where local governments are footing the bill.

This is being treated like "the A's are definitely moving" by the media and the people in this thread, but that's not the case. This city council vote is the last procedural hurdle before shovels hit the ground. The A's want to get moving ASAP because COVID has already delayed their plans, and this is their way of telling the council to set a vote quickly, and also to give the team additional leverage in how they and the city parcel out the remaining infrastructure costs.

Even for the legendarily stupid and corrupt Oakland City Council, this is a no-brainer and it's going to get approved. It's a multi-billion dollar development project on a currently unusable parcel of land being paid for by a third party. The team will make sure that the right people behind the scenes get a taste while the posturing continues.

Sorry Montreal and Portland and everyone else. Not yours.
 
2021-05-11 9:29:04 PM  
The Montreal Eh's
 
2021-05-11 9:33:39 PM  

mactheknife: If not Montreal, Raleigh, North Carolina, is the market they should go to.  No MLB baseball within a 4 hour drive in any direction.  No spring-season competition for the disposable income dollar, and only the Hurricanes NHL team as competition for it at all.


The ideal solution would be Greensboro so both the RTP and Charlotte markets would be in close proximity.
 
2021-05-11 10:48:06 PM  

The Bestest: They actually have a tentative deal to share the Rays with St. Pete starting in 2028.


The Rays don't want to give up the Tampa and Orlando media markets. St. Pete doesn't have the tax base to support a new  domed stadium (Tropicana was built in the 80's on a tiny budget even for that era) and Tampa is paying for the Bucs' and Lightning's stadiums. Seems like a clever idea to build two low cost outdoor stadiums and split the season between them. But I don't see it working in practice. Time will tell...
 
2021-05-12 12:02:19 AM  
I would like for them to get a deal done....but Las Vegas is the most likely destination, or Portland.
 
2021-05-12 2:00:52 AM  
There are so many cities that are starved for a Major League Baseball team... Vegas, Portland, Nashville, Montreal, Baltimore, Detroit....

/Tigers fan
//*sob*
 
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