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2021-05-11 8:31:57 PM  
In a Facebook post late Monday evening, the Russian Embassy wrote that it "categorically reject[s] the baseless fabrications of individual journalists and reiterate[s] that Russia does not conduct 'malicious' activity in the virtual space."

No Poutine, you already told that joke in Ukraine with that "I can't believe they're not Russian Troops!" bullshiat.

"Oh no, Russia didn't do that. It's just a bunch of people, acting independently on vacation, from home, using their own internet, who just happen to be getting paid as state contractors doing security research."
 
2021-05-11 10:02:47 PM  
The Colonial Pipeline hack was merely tit for tat, IMHO.
 
2021-05-11 11:22:25 PM  
I just did it and I'm ready to do it again

/its good to be the king
 
2021-05-11 11:23:16 PM  

fragMasterFlash: The Colonial Pipeline hack was merely tit for tat, IMHO.


Dangit, beat me to it.

What goes around comes around.
 
2021-05-11 11:31:09 PM  

rohar: fragMasterFlash: The Colonial Pipeline hack was merely tit for tat, IMHO.

Dangit, beat me to it.

What goes around comes around.


I'm going to start a Death to Russia cult and make them drink bottles of my pee.

Tit for tat!
They started it.
 
2021-05-11 11:33:08 PM  
One of my adult kids works for an auto supply store. S/he stated they sold out of gas cans today. S/he delivers parts to small auto repair shops in the area and had to fill up the company car this morning. Only premium was left at the first station s/he pulled into. So, s/he called the store to ask if s/he should look for gas elsewhere. The manager emphatically told him/her to buy gas immediately because it was completely out at many stations.
 
2021-05-11 11:34:23 PM  
All those internet cables in and out of russia? Cut them

All those russian embassies in nato countries? Shut em down.

All that access to the world banking system? Cut it

All those russian oligarchs assets in europe? Seize em.
 
2021-05-11 11:34:50 PM  
Biden is having the intelligence groups point at non state russian actors.  Say it with me, Kompromat.
 
2021-05-11 11:38:01 PM  
yeah no shiat gru

i mean bruh
 
2021-05-11 11:39:39 PM  
Sanction the Russian government. If they did it, they deserve it. If they didn't do it, then they'll fix the situation extremely quickly.

Either way, the smart play is to pull a few million bucks out of their pocket.
 
2021-05-11 11:46:03 PM  

Saiga410: Biden is having the intelligence groups point at non state russian actors.  Say it with me, Kompromat.


Nahhh.

Remember when Trump wanted to combine forces with Russia to form a cybersecurity team and share information.

I bet we we shared information.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/10/politi​c​s/trump-ends-cyber-security-plan-putin​
 
2021-05-11 11:46:36 PM  
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2021-05-11 11:48:45 PM  
Before I even attempt to explain what sort of genius mastermind it would have taken, the vast volumes of knowledge required to penetrate their network's defenses... hold on...
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...apparently I have another Flash update to install...
 
2021-05-11 11:49:28 PM  

Gonz: Sanction the Russian government. If they did it, they deserve it. If they didn't do it, then they'll fix the situation extremely quickly.

Either way, the smart play is to pull a few million bucks out of their pocket.


Have we not already sanctioned them for trying to let Navalny die in prison and lining up 100,000 troops on the border with Ukraine?
 
2021-05-11 11:50:05 PM  

Clearly Canadian: the Russian Embassy wrote that it "categorically reject[s] the baseless fabrications of individual journalists and reiterate[s] that Russia does not conduct 'malicious' activity in the virtual space."


Bullcrap. Bullcrap. That's a load of bullcrap. What's the Russian word for bullcrap?

We know you did it. You left your fingerprints at the scene. Don't lie to us after getting your hand caught in the cookie jar.
 
2021-05-11 11:56:49 PM  
Know what? I actually believe them that it was not state-ordered or even state-sanctioned.. at least not directly. It doesn't fit the style or MO of a GRU operation.

That said, even though the attack itself and the target selected may not have come at the direction or even the blessing of the Russian government, the operation itself couldn't exist without a wink and a nod from some at least close to Putin, so they're not blameless.
 
2021-05-11 11:58:00 PM  

casual disregard: Bullcrap. Bullcrap. That's a load of bullcrap. What's the Russian word for bullcrap?

We know you did it. You left your fingerprints at the scene. Don't lie to us after getting your hand caught in the cookie jar.


I read this post in Tommy Lee Jones' voice.
 
2021-05-11 11:59:05 PM  

Ganon D. Mire: Before I even attempt to explain what sort of genius mastermind it would have taken, the vast volumes of knowledge required to penetrate their network's defenses... hold on...
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...apparently I have another Flash update to install...


Hey man, as long as you are running this you are totally safe.

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2021-05-12 12:18:36 AM  
Cokezeroinacan:

Just another brogressive showing their antisemitic true colors.

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2021-05-12 12:18:41 AM  
This is what they call, in the business, a shot over the bow. The business being that of shooting stuff over bows.
 
2021-05-12 12:25:18 AM  
I'm putting my money on a bunch of script kiddies that sent out a load of virused spam email.  Not everything is a conspiracy.

It really just sounds like there was terrible IT policy and procedure at a critical infrastructure point.  There is no reason a ransomware attack should shut you down for days if you have proper backups and a restore policy.

My company was hit twice by ransomware attacks about 6 years ago.  Both times we managed to catch it fairly early.  We restored our file servers, replaced the infected machines and were back up and running in a couple hours.  We then implemented IT security training and even better anti-virus software.  No issues since.
 
2021-05-12 12:25:26 AM  
About the pipeline thing, I'm surprised there weren't manual overrides on pumps and motor controls. Sure, one person couldn't make things happen by pushing one button in a control room, but 5 or 6 guys could move products through the pipes by opening valves by hand and sticking a screwdriver in the damn motor starter if they needed to, maybe coordinating on a Zello channel or Whatsapp chat or something
 
2021-05-12 12:42:15 AM  

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2021-05-12 1:59:19 AM  

lolmao500: All those internet cables in and out of russia? Cut them

All those russian embassies in nato countries? Shut em down.

All that access to the world banking system? Cut it

All those russian oligarchs assets in europe? Seize em.


Sure. I'm sure that will generate a well measured response from that mafia state. I bet it will really really hurt the folks who deserve it and totally bypass the army of working poor living there.
 
2021-05-12 2:09:35 AM  
Call this what it really is: Piracy.

The Russians are farking pirates plundering the cyber sphere of other countries.

And you know what we do with pirates?
 
2021-05-12 2:32:07 AM  

Ishkur: Call this what it really is: Piracy.

The Russians are farking pirates plundering the cyber sphere of other countries.

And you know what we do with pirates?


Drunkenly sing sea shanties!
 
2021-05-12 5:40:14 AM  

Ishkur: Call this what it really is: Piracy.

The Russians are farking pirates plundering the cyber sphere of other countries.

And you know what we do with pirates?


Send in the Cyber Ninjas?

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2021-05-12 5:52:19 AM  

phaseolus: About the pipeline thing, I'm surprised there weren't manual overrides on pumps and motor controls. Sure, one person couldn't make things happen by pushing one button in a control room, but 5 or 6 guys could move products through the pipes by opening valves by hand and sticking a screwdriver in the damn motor starter if they needed to, maybe coordinating on a Zello channel or Whatsapp chat or something


Possibly true, assuming a team of people ready to go with the right knowledge, training and logistics behind them.  Probably not something that Colonial has been invested in though.
 
2021-05-12 6:01:46 AM  

Mike_1962: phaseolus: About the pipeline thing, I'm surprised there weren't manual overrides on pumps and motor controls. Sure, one person couldn't make things happen by pushing one button in a control room, but 5 or 6 guys could move products through the pipes by opening valves by hand and sticking a screwdriver in the damn motor starter if they needed to, maybe coordinating on a Zello channel or Whatsapp chat or something

Possibly true, assuming a team of people ready to go with the right knowledge, training and logistics behind them.  Probably not something that Colonial has been invested in though.


Why would they need to do that? It's all automatic!
 
2021-05-12 6:12:56 AM  

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most useful maybe, but certainly not finest.
 
2021-05-12 6:13:39 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: casual disregard: Bullcrap. Bullcrap. That's a load of bullcrap. What's the Russian word for bullcrap?

We know you did it. You left your fingerprints at the scene. Don't lie to us after getting your hand caught in the cookie jar.

I read this post in Tommy Lee Jones' voice.


he doesn't care.
 
2021-05-12 6:17:51 AM  

lolmao500: All those internet cables in and out of russia? Cut them

All those russian embassies in nato countries? Shut em down.

All that access to the world banking system? Cut it

All those russian oligarchs assets in europe? Seize em.


In days prior, we'd also send a message with an "accident." A civilian Russian airliner might "accidentally" get shot down. An "errant" cruise missile might "accidentally" hit a Russian embassy.

When the puppy is being naughty, and positive reinforcement isn't working, one thwaps the puppy on the nose with a rolled up newspaper. The Russian puppy is being excessively naughty and is going the right way for vigorous thwapping.
 
2021-05-12 6:25:13 AM  
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in Soviet Russia, Simpsons do you!
 
2021-05-12 6:30:02 AM  
The timing is not a coincidence.  Trump belonged to them.  Why am I telling people who already know this?
 
2021-05-12 7:22:48 AM  
Foreign Minister Heiko Maas describes it as a bridge that will keep Russia connected to the West and help constrain it

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Ha, it's just one more thing Putin can shut off on a moment's notice before he tries to invade your sorry butts.
 
2021-05-12 7:37:35 AM  

phaseolus: About the pipeline thing, I'm surprised there weren't manual overrides on pumps and motor controls. Sure, one person couldn't make things happen by pushing one button in a control room, but 5 or 6 guys could move products through the pipes by opening valves by hand and sticking a screwdriver in the damn motor starter if they needed to, maybe coordinating on a Zello channel or Whatsapp chat or something


This company is too cheap to spend money on its own private intranet and closed-circuit monitoring computer and proprietary software, and you expect them to have the foresight to think of this?

Nah, they said. Just use existing infrastructure, run all our stations and monitoring software through the public Internet, they said. What's the worst that can happen?
 
2021-05-12 7:51:46 AM  
Why is this even news?  Of course they denied it.
 
2021-05-12 8:16:04 AM  
Actually, I like to think that it wasn't related to the Russian intelligence services, that it was just a group of Russian cybercriminals.

I like to think of the look on their faces when they realized what they had done,and what the response is going to be.

Sleep tight, fellas.
 
2021-05-12 9:06:03 AM  

lolmao500: All those internet cables in and out of russia? Cut them

All those russian embassies in nato countries? Shut em down.

All that access to the world banking system? Cut it

All those russian oligarchs assets in europe? Seize em.


How is an attack on essential U.S. infrastructure not an "act of war"? Nuke the farking Kremlin. The Russians were completely untrustworthy as a nation under the czars, and then under the communists, and now they're completely untrustworthy under Putin the neo-czar. Deal with them now on our terms, or deal with them later on their terms.
 
2021-05-12 11:06:45 AM  

Mike_1962: phaseolus: About the pipeline thing, I'm surprised there weren't manual overrides on pumps and motor controls. Sure, one person couldn't make things happen by pushing one button in a control room, but 5 or 6 guys could move products through the pipes by opening valves by hand and sticking a screwdriver in the damn motor starter if they needed to, maybe coordinating on a Zello channel or Whatsapp chat or something

Possibly true, assuming a team of people ready to go with the right knowledge, training and logistics behind them.  Probably not something that Colonial has been invested in though.


Ishkur:

This company is too cheap to spend money on its own private intranet and closed-circuit monitoring computer and proprietary software, and you expect them to have the foresight to think of this?

Nah, they said. Just use existing infrastructure, run all our stations and monitoring software through the public Internet, they said. What's the worst that can happen?


Yeah ... Still, good maintenance people are quite clever and resourceful when something needs to get done; there are almost certainly people on staff who were ready to pull something out of their ass that would have moved product to the customer.

Whether they were empowered to do that, that's a whole 'nother issue
 
2021-05-12 11:29:59 AM  
Remembering a bit of jargon I saw in a flowmeter manual once and looking it up, I think I found the answer why manual workarounds couldn't be done:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custody​_​transfer

Before automation, I imagine this involved a bunch of clerks copying numbers from flowmeters' local displays onto multipart forms and mailing them all over the place so other clerks and bookkeepers could keep track of everything, but if they're relying on automation to keep track of where US$10s of millions of product happens to be at any given time, product ain't gonna move if it's impossible to know where it is
 
2021-05-12 6:03:44 PM  

mksmith: lolmao500: All those internet cables in and out of russia? Cut them

All those russian embassies in nato countries? Shut em down.

All that access to the world banking system? Cut it

All those russian oligarchs assets in europe? Seize em.

How is an attack on essential U.S. infrastructure not an "act of war"? Nuke the farking Kremlin. The Russians were completely untrustworthy as a nation under the czars, and then under the communists, and now they're completely untrustworthy under Putin the neo-czar. Deal with them now on our terms, or deal with them later on their terms.


I can't imagine Putin would be dumb enough to order this out of nowhere. It's like poking a sleeping tiger in the eye. He doesn't seem to win anything while this blows over: on a national and international level it's all risk and no reward. I really do believe it's a hacker group that just happens to be in Russia.
 
2021-05-12 10:51:05 PM  
I don't know why we dont just hack them right back. Hit the energy sector for a while. If it's not state sanctioned, it should encourage them to find the perps and put a stop to it.
 
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