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(Major League Baseball)   171-foot blooper to the shortstop turns into a triple for Cedric Mullins   (mlb.com) divider line
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433 [TotalFark]
2021-05-11 2:23:26 AM  
Yes, a triple in that he made it to third base from home plate.  He got there because the ball was grossly/hilariously mishandled.  It wasn't called an error at least in the video.  Does it actually count for him as a triple where stats are concerned?

The number of players outside of their positions and/or in the wrong place on that play was astounding.  He didn't hit a triple as much as they gave him one.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2021-05-11 3:49:41 AM  
Cedric Mullins was putting on the speed the whole time.  Either he saw it or he was getting good base coaching, or both.  By the time he was at 3rd, there were ~6 other players in the area and the catcher had to be the one to try and tag him out.

Mullins is fast
 
2021-05-11 3:53:55 AM  
Run out every hit. Every time.

/And if the other team fails to field the ball, keep running until they do.
 
2021-05-11 7:45:12 AM  
Not an error, because of the goofy shift they were playing.  Can hardly blame the fielder for not making that catch, when the coach in charge of the shifts is the one that took them out of position.  Devers (3rd) is in protecting against the bunt.  Bogaerts (SS) is out in right field.

Live by the shift, die by the shift.
 
2021-05-11 8:16:38 AM  

433: Yes, a triple in that he made it to third base from home plate.  He got there because the ball was grossly/hilariously mishandled.  It wasn't called an error at least in the video.  Does it actually count for him as a triple where stats are concerned?

The number of players outside of their positions and/or in the wrong place on that play was astounding.  He didn't hit a triple as much as they gave him one.


I think the right way to score it should have been a double and an error on the fielder
 
2021-05-11 8:19:15 AM  
Close play. He was safe. But even if he was out he should have been safe just because extreme shifts are dumb. Also get rid of the DH, artificial turf, and stay off my lawn.
 
2021-05-11 8:34:39 AM  
Needs Yakety-sax.

Good call by the third base umpire. From the first angle, I thought he was out, but the second angle showed him touching base before the catcher tagged him.
 
2021-05-11 9:25:32 AM  
Looks like the SS actually ran a bit too far, and had to bend his glove back at the very end to account for the mid-judged angle.

I'll now present commentary from every little league coach I ever had:

"Two hands, damn it, Bogaerts!"
 
2021-05-11 10:06:24 AM  
I'd have still scored it as a double and an error.
 
2021-05-11 10:20:05 AM  
Score an error on the gottdamned manager for calling the gottdamned shift in the first place.
 
2021-05-11 10:42:27 AM  
In 1997, Edgar Renteria bunted for an RBI double against the Cubs. The ball went about 75 feet down the third base line, and Luis Castillo scored from second.
 
2021-05-11 10:55:13 AM  

lifeslammer: 433: Yes, a triple in that he made it to third base from home plate.  He got there because the ball was grossly/hilariously mishandled.  It wasn't called an error at least in the video.  Does it actually count for him as a triple where stats are concerned?

The number of players outside of their positions and/or in the wrong place on that play was astounding.  He didn't hit a triple as much as they gave him one.

I think the right way to score it should have been a double and an error on the fielder


When did the error happen?

If you are calling the dropped ball an error, it is a 3 base error. No hit. If not on the catch, it must be on the throw. Pretty hard to call that throw an error. It was high, but not so far off it could be called an error.

Triple is the right call on this.

I wonder if anyone was covering home. Did the 1st baseman or pitcher rotate when they saw the catcher head for third? I wonder if he could have popped up after the tag attempt and outrun the catcher home. It would have been even more fun to see a 171 foot home run.
 
2021-05-11 11:12:06 AM  

tedduque: When did the error happen?

If you are calling the dropped ball an error, it is a 3 base error. No hit. If not on the catch, it must be on the throw. Pretty hard to call that throw an error. It was high, but not so far off it could be called an error.

Triple is the right call on this.

I wonder if anyone was covering home. Did the 1st baseman or pitcher rotate when they saw the catcher head for third? I wonder if he could have popped up after the tag attempt and outrun the catcher home. It would have been even more fun to see a 171 foot home run.


That's a good point. I'm still learning the intricacies of scoring for my kids travel team. But yeah, if you call the missed catch an error, it's an error all the way through. However the ball did hit his glove and he didn't catch it. Tough play, so I suppose it could go either way.
 
2021-05-11 12:25:14 PM  
Baseball is best when it is weird.

It's the weirdest sport in the world and let's try to keep it that way.

Almost every other team sport is timed, which results in up to a quarter of the game being "garbage time" where it is literally impossible for the other team to win.  In baseball, you can be up seven runs in the ninth inning and lose.

Every other sport in the world has a set playing field.  Baseball's playing field can be almost any farking shape it wants to.  Want to stick a giant farking hill in the middle of the playing field?  Sure, go for it.  Want to have weird angles, tall walls, short walls, 300' to home plate, 420' to home plate?  Fine.
 
2021-05-11 1:18:37 PM  

Geotpf: Baseball is best when it is weird.

It's the weirdest sport in the world and let's try to keep it that way.

Almost every other team sport is timed, which results in up to a quarter of the game being "garbage time" where it is literally impossible for the other team to win.  In baseball, you can be up seven runs in the ninth inning and lose.

Every other sport in the world has a set playing field.  Baseball's playing field can be almost any farking shape it wants to.  Want to stick a giant farking hill in the middle of the playing field?  Sure, go for it.  Want to have weird angles, tall walls, short walls, 300' to home plate, 420' to home plate?  Fine.


A quarter of the game? Seems a bit hyperbolic. There is literally no deficit in football that can't be overcome. Even without ridiculous scenarios, there are very few football games in which it is next to impossible to win at the start of the 4th quarter. Basketball is a bit tougher in this regard because the other team has to take possession after each score. But hack a Shaq was a real thing.

Baseball is no different. If you are up by 10 runs in the 7th, 33% of the game left, you are going to win, so baseball has as much of a "garbage time" as any other sport. Time has nothing to do with it. It only matters how many scoring opportunities you'll have before the rules specify the game ends. Baseball uses outs. Other sports use a clock. Still other sports have a goal to reach (tennis, volleyball)
 
2021-05-11 2:00:39 PM  

tedduque: Geotpf: Baseball is best when it is weird.

It's the weirdest sport in the world and let's try to keep it that way.

Almost every other team sport is timed, which results in up to a quarter of the game being "garbage time" where it is literally impossible for the other team to win.  In baseball, you can be up seven runs in the ninth inning and lose.

Every other sport in the world has a set playing field.  Baseball's playing field can be almost any farking shape it wants to.  Want to stick a giant farking hill in the middle of the playing field?  Sure, go for it.  Want to have weird angles, tall walls, short walls, 300' to home plate, 420' to home plate?  Fine.

A quarter of the game? Seems a bit hyperbolic. There is literally no deficit in football that can't be overcome. Even without ridiculous scenarios, there are very few football games in which it is next to impossible to win at the start of the 4th quarter. Basketball is a bit tougher in this regard because the other team has to take possession after each score. But hack a Shaq was a real thing.

Baseball is no different. If you are up by 10 runs in the 7th, 33% of the game left, you are going to win, so baseball has as much of a "garbage time" as any other sport. Time has nothing to do with it. It only matters how many scoring opportunities you'll have before the rules specify the game ends. Baseball uses outs. Other sports use a clock. Still other sports have a goal to reach (tennis, volleyball)


https://www.baseball-reference.com/bo​x​es/ANA/ANA202105080.shtml

This game was last Saturday.

Score at the end of the fifth inning: 13-0.
Score at the end of the seven inning: 14-11.

Now, the Dodgers ended up holding on to win (14-11 was the final score), but it illustrates the point that "It ain't over until it's over".
 
2021-05-11 6:14:18 PM  

Geotpf: tedduque: Geotpf: Baseball is best when it is weird.

It's the weirdest sport in the world and let's try to keep it that way.

Almost every other team sport is timed, which results in up to a quarter of the game being "garbage time" where it is literally impossible for the other team to win.  In baseball, you can be up seven runs in the ninth inning and lose.

Every other sport in the world has a set playing field.  Baseball's playing field can be almost any farking shape it wants to.  Want to stick a giant farking hill in the middle of the playing field?  Sure, go for it.  Want to have weird angles, tall walls, short walls, 300' to home plate, 420' to home plate?  Fine.

A quarter of the game? Seems a bit hyperbolic. There is literally no deficit in football that can't be overcome. Even without ridiculous scenarios, there are very few football games in which it is next to impossible to win at the start of the 4th quarter. Basketball is a bit tougher in this regard because the other team has to take possession after each score. But hack a Shaq was a real thing.

Baseball is no different. If you are up by 10 runs in the 7th, 33% of the game left, you are going to win, so baseball has as much of a "garbage time" as any other sport. Time has nothing to do with it. It only matters how many scoring opportunities you'll have before the rules specify the game ends. Baseball uses outs. Other sports use a clock. Still other sports have a goal to reach (tennis, volleyball)

https://www.baseball-reference.com/box​es/ANA/ANA202105080.shtml

This game was last Saturday.

Score at the end of the fifth inning: 13-0.
Score at the end of the seven inning: 14-11.

Now, the Dodgers ended up holding on to win (14-11 was the final score), but it illustrates the point that "It ain't over until it's over".


So your counter example to the game being over at that point is an example in which a team didn't come back and the game was over? Brilliant!

Even if they had come back, my comment was in relation to the score after 6 innings, not 5. I have no idea what you are trying to represent here. Not only did the team not come back and win, you failed to demonstrate the comeback started after the 6th inning.
 
2021-05-12 6:13:57 AM  

tedduque: Geotpf: Baseball is best when it is weird.

It's the weirdest sport in the world and let's try to keep it that way.

Almost every other team sport is timed, which results in up to a quarter of the game being "garbage time" where it is literally impossible for the other team to win.  In baseball, you can be up seven runs in the ninth inning and lose.

Every other sport in the world has a set playing field.  Baseball's playing field can be almost any farking shape it wants to.  Want to stick a giant farking hill in the middle of the playing field?  Sure, go for it.  Want to have weird angles, tall walls, short walls, 300' to home plate, 420' to home plate?  Fine.

A quarter of the game? Seems a bit hyperbolic. There is literally no deficit in football that can't be overcome. Even without ridiculous scenarios, there are very few football games in which it is next to impossible to win at the start of the 4th quarter. Basketball is a bit tougher in this regard because the other team has to take possession after each score. But hack a Shaq was a real thing.

Baseball is no different. If you are up by 10 runs in the 7th, 33% of the game left, you are going to win, so baseball has as much of a "garbage time" as any other sport. Time has nothing to do with it. It only matters how many scoring opportunities you'll have before the rules specify the game ends. Baseball uses outs. Other sports use a clock. Still other sports have a goal to reach (tennis, volleyball)


Wanna bet?
https://www.baseball-reference.com/bo​x​es/CLE/CLE200108050.shtml
 
2021-05-12 11:57:20 AM  

Don Gato: tedduque: Geotpf: Baseball is best when it is weird.

It's the weirdest sport in the world and let's try to keep it that way.

Almost every other team sport is timed, which results in up to a quarter of the game being "garbage time" where it is literally impossible for the other team to win.  In baseball, you can be up seven runs in the ninth inning and lose.

Every other sport in the world has a set playing field.  Baseball's playing field can be almost any farking shape it wants to.  Want to stick a giant farking hill in the middle of the playing field?  Sure, go for it.  Want to have weird angles, tall walls, short walls, 300' to home plate, 420' to home plate?  Fine.

A quarter of the game? Seems a bit hyperbolic. There is literally no deficit in football that can't be overcome. Even without ridiculous scenarios, there are very few football games in which it is next to impossible to win at the start of the 4th quarter. Basketball is a bit tougher in this regard because the other team has to take possession after each score. But hack a Shaq was a real thing.

Baseball is no different. If you are up by 10 runs in the 7th, 33% of the game left, you are going to win, so baseball has as much of a "garbage time" as any other sport. Time has nothing to do with it. It only matters how many scoring opportunities you'll have before the rules specify the game ends. Baseball uses outs. Other sports use a clock. Still other sports have a goal to reach (tennis, volleyball)

Wanna bet?
https://www.baseball-reference.com/box​es/CLE/CLE200108050.shtml


Yes. I'll give you 10:1 odds on every MLB game in which a team is up by 10 runs going into the 7th. I get the team that is ahead. Wanna bet?

I'm well aware comebacks have been made from 10 down going into the 7th. But they are exceedingly rare. So make it 15 runs. Or 20. Doesn't matter. The claim was that in baseball it is never over until the last out is made and that isn't true in other sports. It is just as much true in baseball as it is in other sports. Baseball is special and has just as much "garbage time" as any other sport.
 
2021-05-12 5:02:25 PM  

tedduque: Don Gato: tedduque: Geotpf: Baseball is best when it is weird.

It's the weirdest sport in the world and let's try to keep it that way.

Almost every other team sport is timed, which results in up to a quarter of the game being "garbage time" where it is literally impossible for the other team to win.  In baseball, you can be up seven runs in the ninth inning and lose.

Every other sport in the world has a set playing field.  Baseball's playing field can be almost any farking shape it wants to.  Want to stick a giant farking hill in the middle of the playing field?  Sure, go for it.  Want to have weird angles, tall walls, short walls, 300' to home plate, 420' to home plate?  Fine.

A quarter of the game? Seems a bit hyperbolic. There is literally no deficit in football that can't be overcome. Even without ridiculous scenarios, there are very few football games in which it is next to impossible to win at the start of the 4th quarter. Basketball is a bit tougher in this regard because the other team has to take possession after each score. But hack a Shaq was a real thing.

Baseball is no different. If you are up by 10 runs in the 7th, 33% of the game left, you are going to win, so baseball has as much of a "garbage time" as any other sport. Time has nothing to do with it. It only matters how many scoring opportunities you'll have before the rules specify the game ends. Baseball uses outs. Other sports use a clock. Still other sports have a goal to reach (tennis, volleyball)

Wanna bet?
https://www.baseball-reference.com/box​es/CLE/CLE200108050.shtml

Yes. I'll give you 10:1 odds on every MLB game in which a team is up by 10 runs going into the 7th. I get the team that is ahead. Wanna bet?

I'm well aware comebacks have been made from 10 down going into the 7th. But they are exceedingly rare. So make it 15 runs. Or 20. Doesn't matter. The claim was that in baseball it is never over until the last out is made and that isn't true in other sports. It is just as much true ...


Yes, baseball has garbage time like any other sport. That wasn't my point.
In the game I linked, both teams removed many of their starters.

Here's an article from last year about other big comebacks:
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-s-best-c​o​mebacks-in-history-c215344274

Theoretically baseball games could never end since it has no time limit.
And theoretically a deficit of any size could be overcome for the same reason.
Of course this doesn't happen in reality. But you can't prove it will never happen.

Yogi Berra was right.
 
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