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2021-05-10 3:06:33 AM  
It's a shame, really. Franco seemed like the next Brad Pitt, but with even more acting range and ability.

All of the stuff he's done will now have the stain of sexual harassment and assault painted on it. fark him for hurting these women.
 
2021-05-10 3:18:37 AM  
Glad Rogen is distancing himself from it or treating the allegations appropriately, however you want to look at it. I know a lot of people who would stubbornly stick by their dickhead abusive friends and have in similar circumstances.

Nobody is so talented or intelligent that them being an abusive ass should be tolerated.
 
2021-05-10 3:52:27 AM  
It's a smart and properly measured response.

I'll reserve judgement just in case more information comes out in regards to Rogen's involvement though.
 
2021-05-10 4:01:20 AM  

Wobambo: Glad Rogen is distancing himself from it or treating the allegations appropriately, however you want to look at it. I know a lot of people who would stubbornly stick by their dickhead abusive friends and have in similar circumstances.

Nobody is so talented or intelligent that them being an abusive ass should be tolerated.


Sportsteam mentality. A real blight on humanity.
 
2021-05-10 4:34:53 AM  
Ok, I'm not an actor, I'm not important, I'm not anybody - but JFC what is it with this stuff?  It didn't take a college level directed class of people screaming, "No dumbass, don't be a farking complete creep!" to not do this kind of stuff.  It was pretty damn intuitive.  I'm sure I farked the line up some a few times as a horny young dude, but if people reacted with, "Err - hey no that's not cool" I farking apologized and quit that.  Is it that damn difficult?  I never even contemplated the kind of shiat people are getting revealed as having gotten up to, and I wouldn't have even with money/power/etc.  Who the hell thinks that's going to have a positive result?
 
2021-05-10 6:33:53 AM  

Wobambo: I know a lot of people who would stubbornly stick by their dickhead abusive friends and have in similar circumstances.


Police unions
 
2021-05-10 6:52:09 AM  

H31N0US: Wobambo: I know a lot of people who would stubbornly stick by their dickhead abusive friends and have in similar circumstances.

Police unions


I was thinking rapey frat bros, but potato potato.
 
2021-05-10 6:59:04 AM  

Wobambo: H31N0US: Wobambo: I know a lot of people who would stubbornly stick by their dickhead abusive friends and have in similar circumstances.

Police unions

I was thinking rapey frat bros, but potato potato.


Why do you think FOP exists? Worse yet, FOPA?
 
2021-05-10 7:01:38 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Ok, I'm not an actor, I'm not important, I'm not anybody - but JFC what is it with this stuff?  It didn't take a college level directed class of people screaming, "No dumbass, don't be a farking complete creep!" to not do this kind of stuff.  It was pretty damn intuitive.  I'm sure I farked the line up some a few times as a horny young dude, but if people reacted with, "Err - hey no that's not cool" I farking apologized and quit that.  Is it that damn difficult?  I never even contemplated the kind of shiat people are getting revealed as having gotten up to, and I wouldn't have even with money/power/etc.  Who the hell thinks that's going to have a positive result?


You'd be surprised what the perceived feeling of 'power' does to some people.   Well, probably not surprised we see it every day.  The power behind an elected position, behind a badge, behind fame.  Human beings are pretty icky.
 
2021-05-10 7:05:50 AM  
Even his friends are shunning him now. He's Branded!
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Except in Franco's case, he did it.
 
2021-05-10 7:07:21 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Ok, I'm not an actor, I'm not important, I'm not anybody - but JFC what is it with this stuff?  It didn't take a college level directed class of people screaming, "No dumbass, don't be a farking complete creep!" to not do this kind of stuff.  It was pretty damn intuitive.  I'm sure I farked the line up some a few times as a horny young dude, but if people reacted with, "Err - hey no that's not cool" I farking apologized and quit that.  Is it that damn difficult?  I never even contemplated the kind of shiat people are getting revealed as having gotten up to, and I wouldn't have even with money/power/etc.  Who the hell thinks that's going to have a positive result?


One of the things that working in a pron shop taught me is that sex impulses are capable of overriding people's usual behavioral responses and impulse control.  You may think you know somebody, but you don't know who they are when they start running this behavioral script.  It doesn't happen to everyone, but you flash a picture of a cooter or a pair of tits at some people and it's like a switch gets flipped.  I'm not saying I don't get horny, but I am saying that I've never gotten horny enough to argue with a retail worker about whether I've been looking at the porn for too long.
 
2021-05-10 7:07:39 AM  
 
2021-05-10 7:11:08 AM  

born_yesterday: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Ok, I'm not an actor, I'm not important, I'm not anybody - but JFC what is it with this stuff?  It didn't take a college level directed class of people screaming, "No dumbass, don't be a farking complete creep!" to not do this kind of stuff.  It was pretty damn intuitive.  I'm sure I farked the line up some a few times as a horny young dude, but if people reacted with, "Err - hey no that's not cool" I farking apologized and quit that.  Is it that damn difficult?  I never even contemplated the kind of shiat people are getting revealed as having gotten up to, and I wouldn't have even with money/power/etc.  Who the hell thinks that's going to have a positive result?

One of the things that working in a pron shop taught me is that sex impulses are capable of overriding people's usual behavioral responses and impulse control.  You may think you know somebody, but you don't know who they are when they start running this behavioral script.  It doesn't happen to everyone, but you flash a picture of a cooter or a pair of tits at some people and it's like a switch gets flipped.  I'm not saying I don't get horny, but I am saying that I've never gotten horny enough to argue with a retail worker about whether I've been looking at the porn for too long.


Who was the woman that worked at a porn shop and blogged about it?
I believe she became a script writer for hollywood movies.
Apparently he blog was very popular.
 
2021-05-10 7:23:19 AM  

Leader O'Cola: Wobambo: H31N0US: Wobambo: I know a lot of people who would stubbornly stick by their dickhead abusive friends and have in similar circumstances.

Police unions

I was thinking rapey frat bros, but potato potato.

Why do you think FOP exists? Worse yet, FOPA?


To be combatted by dapper Dan men, of course!
 
2021-05-10 7:35:01 AM  

Smoking GNU: Wobambo: Glad Rogen is distancing himself from it or treating the allegations appropriately, however you want to look at it. I know a lot of people who would stubbornly stick by their dickhead abusive friends and have in similar circumstances.

Nobody is so talented or intelligent that them being an abusive ass should be tolerated.

Sportsteam mentality. A real blight on humanity.


Sportsteam mentality...? Wut?

Dumb as fark. Lol.
 
2021-05-10 7:52:46 AM  
Not gonna lie; topless dancing with skull masks could be awesome if handled by Cameron, Kubrick (RIP) or Coppola.
 
2021-05-10 7:54:17 AM  

Drearyx: Smoking GNU: Wobambo: Glad Rogen is distancing himself from it or treating the allegations appropriately, however you want to look at it. I know a lot of people who would stubbornly stick by their dickhead abusive friends and have in similar circumstances.

Nobody is so talented or intelligent that them being an abusive ass should be tolerated.

Sportsteam mentality. A real blight on humanity.

Sportsteam mentality...? Wut?

Dumb as fark. Lol.


Standing in support for your "team", be it members of  your social group, political affiliation or religious group no matter the type of accusation/evidence coming to full view. Like, say, a pastor being accused, with ample evidence, of improper interactions with certain members of said congregations and the evidence is irrefutable, yet the concregation coalesces in full support of said pastor , denying all accusations despite all evidence and even going as far as to harrass and possibly assault said victims for daring to bring forth the accusations.

This is but one example, but it crops up all the time. Your "in" groip is all that matters, anything casting it in a bad light, no matter hiw factual, is seen as an attack and you MUST show increased support for ssid group in response or risk being a social outcast from it.
 
2021-05-10 7:56:25 AM  
More recently, actress Charlene Yi took to Instagram to say after she tried to quit Disaster Artist "because James Franco is a sexual predator, they tried to bribe me with a bigger acting role. I cried and told them that was the exact opposite of what I wanted, that I didn't feel safe working with a farking sexual predator. They minimized & said Franco being a predator was so last yr and that he changed... when I literally heard of him abusing new women that week." She also called out "Seth Rogen and enablers," saying they should be held accountable (Rogen was a producer on the film).

So she didn't quit?
 
2021-05-10 8:03:27 AM  

Trik: Leader O'Cola: FOPA?

FOPA?


Freedom of Pinformation Act.
 
2021-05-10 8:09:27 AM  

born_yesterday: One of the things that working in a pron shop taught me .....


Back in the 90s I worked in a video store with a very large "back room", three times the size of the front part of the store.
So I probably know exactly what you're talking about.
We had regulars that were there when we opened, would rent several tapes, leave and return them hours later just to rent more.

Some of the regulars would rent 10 at a time and return them, before it was physically possible to even make copies of them.

We had a system where the cover boxes had numbers, and the tapes were  in a room behind the desk, and you would bring up a card with numbers on them so that you didn't have to carry the cover box through the store.
We had several regulars that had legal pads with thousands of numbers written on them, separated into groups, categories, all in different boxes. They would say I want two from this box, one from this box, three from this box etc.

To your comment, sometimes they would preventatively argue with us that we were judging them for renting so much.

"I know you see me here every day, you think I'm a weirdo or something? You think I'm a pervert?!?!"

Although I did think those things, I would typically just say "I don't think twice about you, I'm just here working, minding my own business!"

It was quite a scene, man!
 
2021-05-10 8:10:08 AM  

CarnySaur: Trik: Leader O'Cola: FOPA?

FOPA?

Freedom of Pinformation Act.


The freedom to post butt selfies on Pinterest?
 
2021-05-10 8:29:09 AM  

Drearyx: Sportsteam mentality...? Wut?


Uh... Michael Vick? Dante Stallworth? Tank Johnson? Ray Lewis? OJ Simpson?

shiat I don't even LIKE sports and I know who those people are from the news and hearing people defend them right up until the NFL fired them and they fell off the icon pedestal. Of course these days people act like they never even heard of Michael Vick or Ray Lewis, but when they were in the news being charged, you could bank on people defending them to the last.
 
2021-05-10 8:33:14 AM  
I know Rogen has been a Me Too activist for a while now, and a lot of people outright expected Rogen to be caught up in it, but he's clean. Yeah he's a pothead, but that's hardly even worth mentioning these days.

And I always thought Franco's younger brother would be the deviant one. He just... oozes "pretty-boy-with-farked-up-tendencies"
 
2021-05-10 8:34:16 AM  

Extra Virgin Geek Olive Oil: I know Rogen has been a Me Too activist for a while now, and a lot of people outright expected Rogen to be caught up in it, but he's clean. Yeah he's a pothead, but that's hardly even worth mentioning these days.

And I always thought Franco's younger brother would be the deviant one. He just... oozes "pretty-boy-with-farked-up-tendencies"​


Instead he's the one who took home Alison Brie permanently.
 
2021-05-10 8:38:46 AM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: Instead he's the one who took home Alison Brie "permanently".


Fixed that for Hollywood relationships.

But yeah, it's twist I didn't expect.
 
2021-05-10 8:53:06 AM  

Wobambo: I know a lot of people who would stubbornly stick by their dickhead abusive friends and have in similar circumstances.


The Republican Party.
 
2021-05-10 9:00:28 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Ok, I'm not an actor, I'm not important, I'm not anybody - but JFC what is it with this stuff?  It didn't take a college level directed class of people screaming, "No dumbass, don't be a farking complete creep!" to not do this kind of stuff.  It was pretty damn intuitive.  I'm sure I farked the line up some a few times as a horny young dude, but if people reacted with, "Err - hey no that's not cool" I farking apologized and quit that.  Is it that damn difficult?  I never even contemplated the kind of shiat people are getting revealed as having gotten up to, and I wouldn't have even with money/power/etc.  Who the hell thinks that's going to have a positive result?


Growing up with the "Pretty" cheat-code on will seriously frak some people up.
 
2021-05-10 9:02:03 AM  

H31N0US: Wobambo: I know a lot of people who would stubbornly stick by their dickhead abusive friends and have in similar circumstances.

Police unions


That's an odd way is spelling "the Clintons".
 
2021-05-10 9:09:01 AM  

Shryke: H31N0US: Wobambo: I know a lot of people who would stubbornly stick by their dickhead abusive friends and have in similar circumstances.

Police unions

That's an odd way is spelling "the Clintons".


You spelled Trump wrong.
 
2021-05-10 9:16:05 AM  

H31N0US: Wobambo: I know a lot of people who would stubbornly stick by their dickhead abusive friends and have in similar circumstances.

Police unions


FTFY
 
2021-05-10 9:17:36 AM  

Wobambo: Glad Rogen is distancing himself from it or treating the allegations appropriately, however you want to look at it. I know a lot of people who would stubbornly stick by their dickhead abusive friends and have in similar circumstances.

Nobody is so talented or intelligent that them being an abusive ass should be tolerated.


For now.  In a year, it will be back to normal, and they'll be cranking out This Is the End:  Part 2.
 
2021-05-10 9:17:51 AM  
At this point it's pretty safe to assume that everyone in Hollywood - male, female and otherwise -  is a farking predator of some sort.
 
2021-05-10 9:20:31 AM  

Wobambo: H31N0US: Wobambo: I know a lot of people who would stubbornly stick by their dickhead abusive friends and have in similar circumstances.

Police unions

I was thinking rapey frat bros, but potato potato.


i was thinking:

Political Parties
Hollywood
Churches
Schools
Sports teams
Marriages
The music industry
Unions other than the police
The BBC
FIFA
USOC
SPLC
 
2021-05-10 9:25:35 AM  

Extra Virgin Geek Olive Oil: Incorrigible Astronaut: Instead he's the one who took home Alison Brie "permanently".

Fixed that for Hollywood relationships.

But yeah, it's twist I didn't expect.


Hollywood relationships are only different because people are typically better looking and have more options than the general population.
 
2021-05-10 9:25:36 AM  
I simply don't understand the need for this sick behavior from someone like him. He is famous, rich, good looking and funny.  Most women find any of those four qualities very attractive... and he has all four of them, IMHO.

I would think for guys like him, the main women problem they face is which of the multiple consenting hotties they are going to fark tonight.
 
2021-05-10 9:48:07 AM  
Now Ashton Kutcher needs to drop Danny Matheson.

Kind of undermines all his sexual traffick fighting if he's still buddies with a violent rapist.
 
2021-05-10 9:54:02 AM  

hugram: I simply don't understand the need for this sick behavior from someone like him. He is famous, rich, good looking


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2021-05-10 10:00:22 AM  
He was good in Buckaroo Banzai.
 
2021-05-10 10:08:29 AM  

spleef420: At this point it's pretty safe to assume that everyone in Hollywood - male, female and otherwise -  is a farking predator of some sort.


Especially since the term predator has been expanded to mean "charmed someone into voluntarily doing something."
 
2021-05-10 10:44:09 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Ok, I'm not an actor, I'm not important, I'm not anybody - but JFC what is it with this stuff?  It didn't take a college level directed class of people screaming, "No dumbass, don't be a farking complete creep!" to not do this kind of stuff.  It was pretty damn intuitive.  I'm sure I farked the line up some a few times as a horny young dude, but if people reacted with, "Err - hey no that's not cool" I farking apologized and quit that.  Is it that damn difficult?  I never even contemplated the kind of shiat people are getting revealed as having gotten up to, and I wouldn't have even with money/power/etc.  Who the hell thinks that's going to have a positive result?


With the people who pull this stuff the sex is secondary. Primarily it is l about control and POWER! "I am so far above you I can get you to let me do anything I want and if you complain, I can ruin your life." They KNOW what they are doing is wrong, but in their mind they are more important that everyone else so the rules don't apply to them.
 
2021-05-10 11:03:32 AM  

Extra Virgin Geek Olive Oil: Drearyx: Sportsteam mentality...? Wut?

Uh... Michael Vick? Dante Stallworth? Tank Johnson? Ray Lewis? OJ Simpson?

shiat I don't even LIKE sports and I know who those people are from the news and hearing people defend them right up until the NFL fired them and they fell off the icon pedestal. Of course these days people act like they never even heard of Michael Vick or Ray Lewis, but when they were in the news being charged, you could bank on people defending them to the last.


Both Vick and Lewis are analysts on football shows.
 
2021-05-10 11:15:06 AM  

mjbok: Both Vick and Lewis are analysts on football shows.


Are you serious?
 
2021-05-10 11:21:25 AM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: Hollywood relationships are only different because people are typically better looking and have more options than the general population.


I imagine there's a metric fark ton of reasons...

Here's a few I can think of:

Shallow Personalities
Falling in love with a character they play and not seeing the real person underneath
Long distance when shooting on location for long periods of time
Money
Media pressure
Media exposure
Media rumor mills
TMZ
Social pressures

Money might be on the list for a lot of couple, but hollywood money is different.

Those are just some of the ones I can think of that aren't in your typical non-hollywood marriages.
 
2021-05-10 11:25:33 AM  

Michael J Faux: spleef420: At this point it's pretty safe to assume that everyone in Hollywood - male, female and otherwise -  is a farking predator of some sort.

Especially since the term predator has been expanded to mean "charmed someone into voluntarily doing something."


In this case, Franco tried to coerce a female coworker into sexual acts with promises of a promotion. Removed protective gear during an oral sex scene in order to be exposed very close to her genitalia.

That's pretty far off from having buyers remorse after a one-night stand.
 
2021-05-10 11:29:56 AM  

We Ate the Necco Wafers: It's a shame, really. Franco seemed like the next Brad Pitt, but with even more acting range and ability.

All of the stuff he's done will now have the stain of sexual harassment and assault painted on it. fark him for hurting these wome

scotchcrotch: Now Ashton Kutcher needs to drop Danny Matheson.

Kind of undermines all his sexual traffick fighting if he's still buddies with a violent rapist.


Is he though? He dropped him from that Ranch show they made together.
 
2021-05-10 11:30:41 AM  

MagSeven: We Ate the Necco Wafers: It's a shame, really. Franco seemed like the next Brad Pitt, but with even more acting range and ability.

All of the stuff he's done will now have the stain of sexual harassment and assault painted on it. fark him for hurting these womescotchcrotch: Now Ashton Kutcher needs to drop Danny Matheson.

Kind of undermines all his sexual traffick fighting if he's still buddies with a violent rapist.

Is he though? He dropped him from that Ranch show they made together.


Sorry Necco. Don't know how you got quoted there...
 
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2021-05-10 11:33:29 AM  

We Ate the Necco Wafers: Franco seemed like the next Brad Pitt, but with even more acting range and ability.


You're being sarcastic, right?
 
2021-05-10 11:44:15 AM  

Extra Virgin Geek Olive Oil: mjbok: Both Vick and Lewis are analysts on football shows.

Are you serious?


Mike Vick: Football analyst for Fox Sports
Ray Lewis:  Football analyst for ESPN.
 
2021-05-10 11:49:38 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Extra Virgin Geek Olive Oil: mjbok: Both Vick and Lewis are analysts on football shows.

Are you serious?

Mike Vick: Football analyst for Fox Sports
Ray Lewis:  Football analyst for ESPN.


Thanks for saving me the research, because saying they have disappeared is demonstrably incorrect.
 
2021-05-10 11:57:34 AM  

mjbok: Extra Virgin Geek Olive Oil: Drearyx: Sportsteam mentality...? Wut?

Uh... Michael Vick? Dante Stallworth? Tank Johnson? Ray Lewis? OJ Simpson?

shiat I don't even LIKE sports and I know who those people are from the news and hearing people defend them right up until the NFL fired them and they fell off the icon pedestal. Of course these days people act like they never even heard of Michael Vick or Ray Lewis, but when they were in the news being charged, you could bank on people defending them to the last.

Both Vick and Lewis are analysts on football shows.


Vick paid his debt to society criminally and has been working on paying it back civilly(which is an eternal debt) with community service, speaking often about the terrible things that he did and why they are terrible.  People can be reformed and I'd say Vick has talked the talk
 
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