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2021-05-08 12:05:47 AM  
So far, it's working for them.
 
2021-05-08 1:12:20 AM  
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2021-05-08 4:51:47 AM  
It's a shame they can't use this crazy insane energy they have to doing things that might help improve their lives and their community. It is like a gallon of gas, you put it in a car it starts and you move forward, they however want to be dumped on the car and set it on fire. And after that they have no plan other than we will be great again.
 
2021-05-08 4:53:14 AM  
I don't care about them.

VOTE. Do NOT get complacent.
 
2021-05-08 4:54:06 AM  
Historically, when no one is held accountable for something like this, they try again. That's all you really need to know.

Keep in mind they already successfully stole one presidential election and a supreme court seat and many state governments.
 
2021-05-08 5:00:44 AM  
It had been long in the planning.
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"If  this election is close, __THEY__ will steal it."  Now, there's this whole thing about defining the antecedent to __they__ and the 'every accusation is a confession.'
 
2021-05-08 5:04:10 AM  
Trump will say increasingly stupid things that the GOP will take as gospel.  Eventually they'll either fall apart, or take over the country and a majority of the states.
 
2021-05-08 5:13:17 AM  

casual disregard: I don't care about them.

VOTE. Do NOT get complacent.


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2021-05-08 5:13:44 AM  
As the Republican Party purges, purifies, shrinks and hardens, they win fewer and fewer general elections.
And the Presidential election is the only one you can win with a minority of voters, and you usually can't.
The Trumpers will win total control of the GOP - but the GOP will win fewer and fewer elections.
The demographic trends that spell their doom started a couple of decades ago, and are not abating - why do you think their efforts at voter suppression have become so frantic and desperate?
There is no permanent, reliable path to victory for a shrinking, minority party.
 
2021-05-08 5:14:12 AM  
Republicans will never believe in a legitimate democratic president. They will challenge every election from now on. If they don't win, they will fully abandon democracy altogether. This WILL end in mass murder. History is rife with examples and it will happen if we let it.

Please  don't let that happen.
 
2021-05-08 5:15:42 AM  
And come the next presidential election, it will be the only truth allowed in this country.

Also, just cuz:

Whose Truth Is Your Truth
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2021-05-08 5:25:45 AM  
There are so many people, as with everything Turnip related, who know what the facts are and want to pretend they fully believe because all the other people who fully believe.

There's rubes at home, but that's more a lifestyle choice than politics.

I'm not convinced 10% of these fools are genuine and aren't just Easter and Christmas Turnip-Hurnipers. With Fox backing off cos lawsuits and the Kraken lady pieholed with a giant gummy bear it's just "I wasn't wrong" rather than true belief.
 
2021-05-08 5:26:21 AM  
We really need a jackass button.
 
2021-05-08 5:36:07 AM  

rosekolodny: We really need a jackass button.


We need internment camps
 
2021-05-08 5:42:13 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: rosekolodny: We really need a jackass button.

We need internment camps


Totally.

What comes after that?
 
2021-05-08 5:44:25 AM  

rosekolodny: We really need a jackass button.


Yeah. And getting 100 jackass votes within 24 hours should automatically trigger a 24 hour timeout.

Or something.
 
2021-05-08 5:46:43 AM  

recondite cetacean: There are so many people, as with everything Turnip related, who know what the facts are and want to pretend they fully believe because all the other people who fully believe.

There's rubes at home, but that's more a lifestyle choice than politics.

I'm not convinced 10% of these fools are genuine and aren't just Easter and Christmas Turnip-Hurnipers. With Fox backing off cos lawsuits and the Kraken lady pieholed with a giant gummy bear it's just "I wasn't wrong" rather than true belief.


Did you mean to type "Trump-Humpers", or did you deliberately write "Turnip-Hurnipers"?

'Cause "Turnip Herniper" is pretty awesome.
 
2021-05-08 5:51:04 AM  
Ok, so bear with me for a second.  What if (and this is a huge IF) Hillary and Trump cooked up this whole thing to destroy the republican party once and for all?  She lost intentionally and then he gets to lead them Pied Piper style down the path to hell and damnation.  The long con job so to speak.

/Bernie 2024
 
2021-05-08 5:51:58 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: rosekolodny: We really need a jackass button.

We need internment camps


How very fascist of you.
 
2021-05-08 5:58:53 AM  

jso2897: As the Republican Party purges, purifies, shrinks and hardens, they win fewer and fewer general elections.
And the Presidential election is the only one you can win with a minority of voters, and you usually can't.
The Trumpers will win total control of the GOP - but the GOP will win fewer and fewer elections.
The demographic trends that spell their doom started a couple of decades ago, and are not abating - why do you think their efforts at voter suppression have become so frantic and desperate?
There is no permanent, reliable path to victory for a shrinking, minority party.


I wish I had your optimism, but I don't trust that logic. The GOP led governorships and state legislatures are trying to rig the next election in their favor, the moderate GOPers will usually swallow their pride and go with a bad republican over not voting or a good independent or Democrat, and you still have money being pushed to keep Democrats out of office. You look back and go, "Couldn't be worse than Reagan...or Bush Sr....Aw fark, Dubya? Couldn't be worse than that. Trump?!"  With this descent, we are likely see some stupid TikTok celebrity as the next Republican president who makes Executive Order announcements by posting memes. Get your shiat together, stop underestimating the GOP and how shortsighted and short a memory people have.
 
2021-05-08 6:00:55 AM  
Tangentially related:

I still want to hear a Mariachi band play Horst Wessel in a minor key.
 
2021-05-08 6:02:05 AM  

jso2897: As the Republican Party purges, purifies, shrinks and hardens, they win fewer and fewer general elections.
And the Presidential election is the only one you can win with a minority of voters, and you usually can't.
The Trumpers will win total control of the GOP - but the GOP will win fewer and fewer elections.
The demographic trends that spell their doom started a couple of decades ago, and are not abating - why do you think their efforts at voter suppression have become so frantic and desperate?
There is no permanent, reliable path to victory for a shrinking, minority party.


You seem to be assuming that they're going to let their opponents vote enough to matter going forward. They're using their ridiculously gerrymandered electoral maps to swallow as many state governments as possible, then using that to rig federal elections and disenfranchise as many of the wrong voters as possible.

They just got super aggressive about it. What are the chances that our wishy washy, razor thin majority of Democrats or our ridiculously lopsided Supreme Court are actually going to do a damn thing about it?
 
2021-05-08 6:03:31 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: rosekolodny: We really need a jackass button.

We need internment camps


Indeed.
 
2021-05-08 6:05:05 AM  

qorkfiend: Nana's Vibrator: rosekolodny: We really need a jackass button.

We need internment camps

Totally.

What comes after that?


Probably some kind of solution to the problem. Maybe some free education? And of course the inmates would have to work to earn their keep.

Where have I heard that before?
 
2021-05-08 6:07:28 AM  

jso2897: As the Republican Party purges, purifies, shrinks and hardens, they win fewer and fewer general elections.
And the Presidential election is the only one you can win with a minority of voters, and you usually can't.
The Trumpers will win total control of the GOP - but the GOP will win fewer and fewer elections.
The demographic trends that spell their doom started a couple of decades ago, and are not abating - why do you think their efforts at voter suppression have become so frantic and desperate?
There is no permanent, reliable path to victory for a shrinking, minority party.


Says increasingly nervous farker. I hope you're right but my hope tank is on fumes.
 
2021-05-08 6:09:47 AM  
It's less about supporting the actual lie, and more about using it as an excuse (however little they may ACTUALLY believe it) to disenfranchise voters, gerrymander districts, and use any dirty trick and ridiculous legislation to stack the deck. The lie itself means nothing in the long run, but if you don't support it then you can't be trusted to go along with the bullshiat that it brings in its wake (which is kind of a dumb assumption in the first place, but no one with an actual functioning brain ever accused them of being smart).
 
2021-05-08 6:11:12 AM  

aagrajag: recondite cetacean: There are so many people, as with everything Turnip related, who know what the facts are and want to pretend they fully believe because all the other people who fully believe.

There's rubes at home, but that's more a lifestyle choice than politics.

I'm not convinced 10% of these fools are genuine and aren't just Easter and Christmas Turnip-Hurnipers. With Fox backing off cos lawsuits and the Kraken lady pieholed with a giant gummy bear it's just "I wasn't wrong" rather than true belief.

Did you mean to type "Trump-Humpers", or did you deliberately write "Turnip-Hurnipers"?

'Cause "Turnip Herniper" is pretty awesome.


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2021-05-08 6:13:26 AM  
A R A B
 
2021-05-08 6:21:27 AM  

Dictatorial_Flair: jso2897: As the Republican Party purges, purifies, shrinks and hardens, they win fewer and fewer general elections.
And the Presidential election is the only one you can win with a minority of voters, and you usually can't.
The Trumpers will win total control of the GOP - but the GOP will win fewer and fewer elections.
The demographic trends that spell their doom started a couple of decades ago, and are not abating - why do you think their efforts at voter suppression have become so frantic and desperate?
There is no permanent, reliable path to victory for a shrinking, minority party.

You seem to be assuming that they're going to let their opponents vote enough to matter going forward. They're using their ridiculously gerrymandered electoral maps to swallow as many state governments as possible, then using that to rig federal elections and disenfranchise as many of the wrong voters as possible.

They just got super aggressive about it. What are the chances that our wishy washy, razor thin majority of Democrats or our ridiculously lopsided Supreme Court are actually going to do a damn thing about it?


More lies.
.
The Georgia law is more liberal, with more access, hours, and mail in voting, than are available in many 'blue' states like New Jersey.

The claim of voter suppresdion is just a mirage and distraction promoted by Democrats, who are trying to remake the country into a massive socialist state. It's just a big fat lie that voters are being suppressed.

You should be paying more attention to what voters think of the plan, unstead of trying to distract them with lies intended to smear the opposition.  You can't fool all of the people all of the time, even with the racist schtick.
 
2021-05-08 6:26:16 AM  

Animatronik: Dictatorial_Flair: jso2897: As the Republican Party purges, purifies, shrinks and hardens, they win fewer and fewer general elections.
And the Presidential election is the only one you can win with a minority of voters, and you usually can't.
The Trumpers will win total control of the GOP - but the GOP will win fewer and fewer elections.
The demographic trends that spell their doom started a couple of decades ago, and are not abating - why do you think their efforts at voter suppression have become so frantic and desperate?
There is no permanent, reliable path to victory for a shrinking, minority party.

You seem to be assuming that they're going to let their opponents vote enough to matter going forward. They're using their ridiculously gerrymandered electoral maps to swallow as many state governments as possible, then using that to rig federal elections and disenfranchise as many of the wrong voters as possible.

They just got super aggressive about it. What are the chances that our wishy washy, razor thin majority of Democrats or our ridiculously lopsided Supreme Court are actually going to do a damn thing about it?

More lies.
.
The Georgia law is more liberal, with more access, hours, and mail in voting, than are available in many 'blue' states like New Jersey.

The claim of voter suppresdion is just a mirage and distraction promoted by Democrats, who are trying to remake the country into a massive socialist state. It's just a big fat lie that voters are being suppressed.

You should be paying more attention to what voters think of the plan, unstead of trying to distract them with lies intended to smear the opposition.  You can't fool all of the people all of the time, even with the racist schtick.


What in God's holy name are you blathering about?
 
2021-05-08 6:32:48 AM  

Candygram for Mongo: aagrajag: recondite cetacean: There are so many people, as with everything Turnip related, who know what the facts are and want to pretend they fully believe because all the other people who fully believe.

There's rubes at home, but that's more a lifestyle choice than politics.

I'm not convinced 10% of these fools are genuine and aren't just Easter and Christmas Turnip-Hurnipers. With Fox backing off cos lawsuits and the Kraken lady pieholed with a giant gummy bear it's just "I wasn't wrong" rather than true belief.

Did you mean to type "Trump-Humpers", or did you deliberately write "Turnip-Hurnipers"?

'Cause "Turnip Herniper" is pretty awesome.

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That was exactly what I was thinking. Thank you.
 
2021-05-08 6:44:43 AM  

recondite cetacean: With Fox backing off cos lawsuits and the Kraken lady pieholed with a giant gummy bear it's just "I wasn't wrong" rather than true belief.


Fox and rest of the derposphere are not backing off because of the lawsuits. The just backed off from specifically blaming it on Dominion and Smartmatic, but they're still very much promoting the Big Lie.
 
2021-05-08 6:46:04 AM  

Animatronik: Dictatorial_Flair: jso2897: As the Republican Party purges, purifies, shrinks and hardens, they win fewer and fewer general elections.
And the Presidential election is the only one you can win with a minority of voters, and you usually can't.
The Trumpers will win total control of the GOP - but the GOP will win fewer and fewer elections.
The demographic trends that spell their doom started a couple of decades ago, and are not abating - why do you think their efforts at voter suppression have become so frantic and desperate?
There is no permanent, reliable path to victory for a shrinking, minority party.

You seem to be assuming that they're going to let their opponents vote enough to matter going forward. They're using their ridiculously gerrymandered electoral maps to swallow as many state governments as possible, then using that to rig federal elections and disenfranchise as many of the wrong voters as possible.

They just got super aggressive about it. What are the chances that our wishy washy, razor thin majority of Democrats or our ridiculously lopsided Supreme Court are actually going to do a damn thing about it?

More lies.
.
The Georgia law is more liberal, with more access, hours, and mail in voting, than are available in many 'blue' states like New Jersey.

The claim of voter suppresdion is just a mirage and distraction promoted by Democrats, who are trying to remake the country into a massive socialist state. It's just a big fat lie that voters are being suppressed.

You should be paying more attention to what voters think of the plan, unstead of trying to distract them with lies intended to smear the opposition.  You can't fool all of the people all of the time, even with the racist schtick.


I see you are for voter suppression and are spouting an anti democratic line.  Shut the fark up.
 
2021-05-08 6:46:20 AM  
It's too early in the morning for the amount of bullshiat shovelling I see upthread. Holy hell that was some wharrbarrble.
 
2021-05-08 6:51:15 AM  

OmnomnomCookies: jso2897: As the Republican Party purges, purifies, shrinks and hardens, they win fewer and fewer general elections.
And the Presidential election is the only one you can win with a minority of voters, and you usually can't.
The Trumpers will win total control of the GOP - but the GOP will win fewer and fewer elections.
The demographic trends that spell their doom started a couple of decades ago, and are not abating - why do you think their efforts at voter suppression have become so frantic and desperate?
There is no permanent, reliable path to victory for a shrinking, minority party.

I wish I had your optimism, but I don't trust that logic. The GOP led governorships and state legislatures are trying to rig the next election in their favor, the moderate GOPers will usually swallow their pride and go with a bad republican over not voting or a good independent or Democrat, and you still have money being pushed to keep Democrats out of office. You look back and go, "Couldn't be worse than Reagan...or Bush Sr....Aw fark, Dubya? Couldn't be worse than that. Trump?!"  With this descent, we are likely see some stupid TikTok celebrity as the next Republican president who makes Executive Order announcements by posting memes. Get your shiat together, stop underestimating the GOP and how shortsighted and short a memory people have.


I'm not all that optimistic. Public opinion can be driven to the right by economic troubles, war, and a number of other externals. The emerging demographics are encouraging, but they only represent trends - not votes in the bank.
And people who think the Overton window is going to shift left when the Boomers die have not been paying attention. The mental image of the Boomers as a bunch of Trumpers is false - they hardly vote any more Republican than X-ers or Mills. The idea that the Dems will have a cakewalk after the Boomers kack is foolish, short sighted, and not based on facts in evidence.
I would describe myself as cautiously optimistic - at best.
At any rate, the GOP is a Phoenix, and will re-emerge from the flames of any conflagration that consumes it, in a new, more marketable form. It always happens. The Trumpers will, we all hope, go away - but the GOP will not, I can assure you.
 
2021-05-08 6:53:38 AM  

soopey: It's too early in the morning for the amount of bullshiat shovelling I see upthread. Holy hell that was some wharrbarrble.


Hey - it's 4:20 somewhere, Bro!
 
2021-05-08 6:55:30 AM  

jso2897: The Trumpers will, we all hope, go away - but the GOP will not, I can assure you.


the good news is trumps age. had this shiat happened when he was say 50, I would be even more pessimistic about how things play out.
 
2021-05-08 6:59:30 AM  

HedlessChickn: Nana's Vibrator: rosekolodny: We really need a jackass button.

We need internment camps

How very fascist of you.


I don't tolerate intolerance.  Racist Nationalists tried to overthrow the US government.  They are trying to take over the country and enact cruelty.  These are not innocent victims.  Using camps is being nice.
And they will be happy to go into the camps.  They understand democracy but defied it with terrorism.  And they know this.  And they also understand the Bush Doctrine they supported.  As terrorists, those who harbor terrorists, and terrorist sympathizers, they have to be willing to allow the government to do to them what the government did in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc under the Bush Doctrine.

In fact, as self proclaimed Patriots, knowing who their terrorist leaders are, before placing themselves into internment, they would willingly kill those terrorist leaders.
And upon breaking laws by killing, they would willingly allow police to kneel on their necks until they suffocate and die without a trial.  God Bless them all.
 
2021-05-08 6:59:30 AM  

soopey: It's too early in the morning for the amount of bullshiat shovelling I see upthread. Holy hell that was some wharrbarrble.


Night shift trolls, especially ones that apparently were working overtime last night in like every last thread, don't exactly put out the best work. They save their best work for the second shift.
 
2021-05-08 7:01:35 AM  

log_jammin: jso2897: The Trumpers will, we all hope, go away - but the GOP will not, I can assure you.

the good news is trumps age. had this shiat happened when he was say 50, I would be even more pessimistic about how things play out.


Don't assume he'll be less of a threat dead - at least at first. He might not be. His cult could survive him by a few years, I fear.
 
2021-05-08 7:01:56 AM  

casual disregard: I don't care about them.

VOTE. Do NOT get complacent.


It's not enough to just vote.  The GOP is systematically working to eliminate the firewalls preventing their fraud and suppression schemes to be stopped.  Everybody who opposes the threat Republicans represent needs to get out there and fight in the marketplace of ideas.  Confront and work to tell people the truth about the rot in this country.

We can't afford to sit on the sidelines or in our safe spaces.
 
2021-05-08 7:04:45 AM  
So, The Big Lie only has power as long as it motivates "the base".  The base only loves Trump. Will they even vote in 2022?
 
2021-05-08 7:05:20 AM  

jso2897: log_jammin: jso2897: The Trumpers will, we all hope, go away - but the GOP will not, I can assure you.

the good news is trumps age. had this shiat happened when he was say 50, I would be even more pessimistic about how things play out.

Don't assume he'll be less of a threat dead - at least at first. He might not be. His cult could survive him by a few years, I fear.


Especially with all the nutjobs vying to publicly tongue Trump's asshole hard enough to try to hijack his base after he croaks. The base isn't going anywhere, they just need another spiteful fascist to follow.
 
2021-05-08 7:06:12 AM  

jso2897: log_jammin: jso2897: The Trumpers will, we all hope, go away - but the GOP will not, I can assure you.

the good news is trumps age. had this shiat happened when he was say 50, I would be even more pessimistic about how things play out.

Don't assume he'll be less of a threat dead - at least at first. He might not be. His cult could survive him by a few years, I fear.


Considering how many times they've changed the date he's going to miraculously come back and take back the White House from the thieving usurpers....

\come to think of it, that should be a good test to figure out how long his popularity will last after he strokes out on the toilet trying to pass a KFC bone
 
2021-05-08 7:08:47 AM  
"...the problem goes even deeper than just the next cycle. Since at least the 1990s, the GOP has worked consistently to undermine the legitimacy of its political opponents."[FTFA]

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Just the 1st of many a**holes that would crawl out of the woodwork.
 
2021-05-08 7:14:43 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: HedlessChickn: Nana's Vibrator: rosekolodny: We really need a jackass button.

We need internment camps

How very fascist of you.

I don't tolerate intolerance.  Racist Nationalists tried to overthrow the US government.  They are trying to take over the country and enact cruelty.  These are not innocent victims.  Using camps is being nice.
And they will be happy to go into the camps.  They understand democracy but defied it with terrorism.  And they know this.  And they also understand the Bush Doctrine they supported.  As terrorists, those who harbor terrorists, and terrorist sympathizers, they have to be willing to allow the government to do to them what the government did in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc under the Bush Doctrine.

In fact, as self proclaimed Patriots, knowing who their terrorist leaders are, before placing themselves into internment, they would willingly kill those terrorist leaders.
And upon breaking laws by killing, they would willingly allow police to kneel on their necks until they suffocate and die without a trial.  God Bless them all.


You know you sound exactly like they do, right?
 
2021-05-08 7:21:25 AM  

Animatronik: Dictatorial_Flair: jso2897: As the Republican Party purges, purifies, shrinks and hardens, they win fewer and fewer general elections.
And the Presidential election is the only one you can win with a minority of voters, and you usually can't.
The Trumpers will win total control of the GOP - but the GOP will win fewer and fewer elections.
The demographic trends that spell their doom started a couple of decades ago, and are not abating - why do you think their efforts at voter suppression have become so frantic and desperate?
There is no permanent, reliable path to victory for a shrinking, minority party.

You seem to be assuming that they're going to let their opponents vote enough to matter going forward. They're using their ridiculously gerrymandered electoral maps to swallow as many state governments as possible, then using that to rig federal elections and disenfranchise as many of the wrong voters as possible.

They just got super aggressive about it. What are the chances that our wishy washy, razor thin majority of Democrats or our ridiculously lopsided Supreme Court are actually going to do a damn thing about it?

More lies.
.
The Georgia law is more liberal, with more access, hours, and mail in voting, than are available in many 'blue' states like New Jersey.

The claim of voter suppresdion is just a mirage and distraction promoted by Democrats, who are trying to remake the country into a massive socialist state. It's just a big fat lie that voters are being suppressed.

You should be paying more attention to what voters think of the plan, unstead of trying to distract them with lies intended to smear the opposition.  You can't fool all of the people all of the time, even with the racist schtick.


Your analysis is akin to a braying jacka**, son.

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Delete your account.
 
2021-05-08 7:22:49 AM  

jso2897: soopey: It's too early in the morning for the amount of bullshiat shovelling I see upthread. Holy hell that was some wharrbarrble.

Hey - it's 4:20 somewhere, Bro!


It was 20 mins ago, lol
 
2021-05-08 7:26:37 AM  

qorkfiend: Nana's Vibrator: HedlessChickn: Nana's Vibrator: rosekolodny: We really need a jackass button.

We need internment camps

How very fascist of you.

I don't tolerate intolerance.  Racist Nationalists tried to overthrow the US government.  They are trying to take over the country and enact cruelty.  These are not innocent victims.  Using camps is being nice.
And they will be happy to go into the camps.  They understand democracy but defied it with terrorism.  And they know this.  And they also understand the Bush Doctrine they supported.  As terrorists, those who harbor terrorists, and terrorist sympathizers, they have to be willing to allow the government to do to them what the government did in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc under the Bush Doctrine.

In fact, as self proclaimed Patriots, knowing who their terrorist leaders are, before placing themselves into internment, they would willingly kill those terrorist leaders.
And upon breaking laws by killing, they would willingly allow police to kneel on their necks until they suffocate and die without a trial.  God Bless them all.

You know you sound exactly like they do, right?


If they had just followed the law they'd have nothing to worry about.
 
2021-05-08 7:26:45 AM  
A friend of mine still talks about it and posts on FB about it. I'm supposed to be concerned about Stacey Abrams, as a resident of Georgia, because she's fat, at least that is what I get out of Republicans in Georgia.

As a resident of Georgia, I can assure you there is nothing less unpleasant than being around a Republican from Georgia. They are belligerent assholes
 
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