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(New Musical Express)   Live Nation has booked more shows for 2022 than they did for 2019   (nme.com) divider line
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2021-05-07 1:42:10 PM  
come for the obvious, leave for the dead-naming down page (not a pun).
 
2021-05-07 1:49:24 PM  
I always thought this would he the case- bands are going to all scramble to make up for lost time, having lost over a year of tours and having multiple tours cancelled-

I'm going to imagine we will have more albums released than previous years as well, since all these bands and artists had nothing to do bit write new material during lockdown, and many have waited until they can do the obligatory promotional tours to release them
 
2021-05-07 1:49:43 PM  
My last live show was Gordon Lightfoot two years ago.  Hell of a good show even though he looked like the crypt keeper.
 
2021-05-07 1:50:21 PM  
Just came to get in the first pearl-clutching "just wait two weeks!" scold.
 
2021-05-07 1:52:07 PM  

fearmongert: I always thought this would he the case- bands are going to all scramble to make up for lost time, having lost over a year of tours and having multiple tours cancelled-

I'm going to imagine we will have more albums released than previous years as well, since all these bands and artists had nothing to do bit write new material during lockdown, and many have waited until they can do the obligatory promotional tours to release them


you mean like Eric Church releasing 3 albums at once?
 
2021-05-07 1:54:54 PM  
I work for a venue. Not a live nation, were independent. We expect once things get going to not stop for until the 23-24 season. We didn't have a 20-21 season so were running everything we can to make up for it in the next two seasons. Figuring the first shows in the 21-22 season will be either low attendance or not happening. So maybe around Nov things get going.

Go get your shots. I'm tired of working in an empty building with a quarter of the staff and constant stress of totally closing.
 
2021-05-07 1:58:21 PM  
Sources say that, through deep analysis by a highly-trained team of expert scientists, the ideal number of LiveNation shows is still 0.....
 
2021-05-07 1:59:12 PM  
Just ordered pavillion tickets for megadeth & lamb of god in september.  about the 8th time i've seen the bands, but fark it i'm ready.
 
2021-05-07 2:00:57 PM  
Funny, I just got confirmation that the show I was going to go to a year ago (Megadeath and Lamb of God) was no longer coming to my 'hood, so they're crediting me back the ticket price.


/even though I request a refund last year.
//Still wary of concerts, and they are the thing I missed most in 2020
 
2021-05-07 2:01:34 PM  

mekkab: Megadeath


wow, how do you misspell Megadeth?
 
2021-05-07 2:06:32 PM  
September:  Def Leppard
October:  Billy Idol

/Glad this year is going to be better than last year's shiat sandwich.
 
2021-05-07 3:02:49 PM  

mid6000tek: I work for a venue. Not a live nation, were independent. We expect once things get going to not stop for until the 23-24 season. We didn't have a 20-21 season so were running everything we can to make up for it in the next two seasons. Figuring the first shows in the 21-22 season will be either low attendance or not happening. So maybe around Nov things get going.

Go get your shots. I'm tired of working in an empty building with a quarter of the staff and constant stress of totally closing.


On it. Thanks.
 
2021-05-07 3:09:31 PM  
Still waiting for Ozzy to tour again. Had tickets for his last one, but he got sick and rescheduled, then COVID hit.

/farkin COVID!!!
//Don't tour with Marilyn Manson this time Ozzy!
 
2021-05-07 3:19:12 PM  
Thank god live nation is going to be okay. For a minute I thought they might go under and drastically improve the live music scene.
 
2021-05-07 3:33:59 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Thank god live nation is going to be okay. For a minute I thought they might go under and drastically improve the live music scene.


don't get me wrong. live nation, ticketmaster, it all farking sucks.  the pricing and fees are outrageous.  I just looked at a 15 year old ticket stub.  the convenience charge?  4.70 cents. I'm more chuffed that apparently we're never going to have paper tickets in our hands again; i think the last time i got a paper ticket was about 2018, and they are fully all in on electronic only tickets.  I HATE electronic tickets.

of course my stub collection is what is important to me.
 
2021-05-07 3:34:46 PM  

fearmongert: I'm going to imagine we will have more albums released than previous years as well, since all these bands and artists had nothing to do bit write new material during lockdown, and many have waited until they can do the obligatory promotional tours to release them


Not that I give a damn about new music these days, but I hope we're not subjected to endless songs about the pandemic.
 
2021-05-07 3:36:30 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: My last live show was Gordon Lightfoot two years ago.  Hell of a good show even though he looked like the crypt keeper.


Well, he is dead, so...
 
2021-05-07 3:43:27 PM  

chitownmike: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: My last live show was Gordon Lightfoot two years ago.  Hell of a good show even though he looked like the crypt keeper.

Well, he is dead, so...


he wasn't then...atleast not 100%
 
2021-05-07 3:57:30 PM  

FLMountainMan: Just came to get in the first pearl-clutching "just wait two weeks!" scold.


My kid works for Live Nation.

He was furloughed the first week of March 2020 and was called back for one gig about two months ago.
It was all mask, all social distant.....iirc a three day weekend fashion show.

He's now fully vaxxed and back at work and LN is expecting to go all open (no social distance) by Summer.

I worried about him before Covid, I'll worry about him after but he'd done all he can and "just wait two weeks" is a hell of a way to keep living.

We did what we could, do what we can, and hope for the farking best.
 
2021-05-07 3:57:55 PM  
and they'll all be to expensive.  every now and again i think "hey i should see if i can get tickets to see _____"  then look at the prices and think "oh yeah, that's why i didn't go last time they were touring."
 
2021-05-07 4:05:04 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Thank god live nation is going to be okay. For a minute I thought they might go under and drastically improve the live music scene.


Live Nation going under and 10k people being out of work and theatres shut down would drastically improve the live music scene.

That local hole in the wall down the street is better. They have both kinds, Country AND Western.
and the band gets paid in beer.
 
2021-05-07 4:22:11 PM  

parasol: Karma Chameleon: Thank god live nation is going to be okay. For a minute I thought they might go under and drastically improve the live music scene.

Live Nation going under and 10k people being out of work and theatres shut down would drastically improve the live music scene.

That local hole in the wall down the street is better. They have both kinds, Country AND Western.
and the band gets paid in beer.


Is there chicken wire surrounding the stage? Gotta have chicken wire around the stage to be authentic.
 
2021-05-07 4:26:08 PM  

mekkab: Funny, I just got confirmation that the show I was going to go to a year ago (Megadeath and Lamb of God) was no longer coming to my 'hood, so they're crediting me back the ticket price.


/even though I request a refund last year.
//Still wary of concerts, and they are the thing I missed most in 2020


They're skipping me this time too :(
 
2021-05-07 4:26:43 PM  

mekkab: mekkab: Megadeath

wow, how do you misspell Megadeth?


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2021-05-07 5:06:43 PM  
I'm happy shows are coming back but this proclamation is perhaps less of a big deal than it sounds. Plenty of stuff that was on the calendar for '20-'21 is being rescheduled into 2022. What'll be interesting is if 2023 sees a similarly stacked calendar (people embrace the return of live music in a huge way) or if it'll just be the bands that had nothing planned since 2019.

I'll tell you one thing: the dynamic pricing on display over the past 3 days of Genesis ticket sales is frightening and wallet-crushing. Legacy acts going for one last cash infusion are going to have a field day and the vast majority of the public is going to be priced out like never before. LN ought to tread carefully here or could risk a backlash and glut of supply. Remember the summer of $10 tickets a decade or so ago?
 
2021-05-07 6:02:37 PM  

Jack of All Games: mekkab: Funny, I just got confirmation that the show I was going to go to a year ago (Megadeath and Lamb of God) was no longer coming to my 'hood, so they're crediting me back the ticket price.


/even though I request a refund last year.
//Still wary of concerts, and they are the thing I missed most in 2020

They're skipping me this time too :(


I had great tickets for Charlotte in July and they cancelled everything before August.
 
2021-05-07 6:33:19 PM  

phedex: Karma Chameleon: Thank god live nation is going to be okay. For a minute I thought they might go under and drastically improve the live music scene.

don't get me wrong. live nation, ticketmaster, it all farking sucks.  the pricing and fees are outrageous.  I just looked at a 15 year old ticket stub.  the convenience charge?  4.70 cents. I'm more chuffed that apparently we're never going to have paper tickets in our hands again; i think the last time i got a paper ticket was about 2018, and they are fully all in on electronic only tickets.  I HATE electronic tickets.

of course my stub collection is what is important to me.


I'm not a big fan of 'stuff', I'm not materialistic.  So I go see people live and my stub is what I remember them by.  I love my collection.  I only ever had an electronic ticket for when I saw the women's national soccer team play a friendly a few years ago.  It was strictly 100% electronic.

But yeah, now they seem to be going all in on electronic tickets... but it's not for any real reason, it's yet another completely useless 'covid protection' crap, even though literally no one else touches your ticket.  Paper will make a come back when people finally come to their senses about all this useless protection crap.

/Just like reusable grocery bags being banned.  How long is that stupidity going to continue?  I'm going to guess quite a while.
//I'm all for keeping people safe, but the dumbass things we do that don't help just piss me off.
 
2021-05-07 7:44:52 PM  

jake3988: phedex: Karma Chameleon: Thank god live nation is going to be okay. For a minute I thought they might go under and drastically improve the live music scene.

don't get me wrong. live nation, ticketmaster, it all farking sucks.  the pricing and fees are outrageous.  I just looked at a 15 year old ticket stub.  the convenience charge?  4.70 cents. I'm more chuffed that apparently we're never going to have paper tickets in our hands again; i think the last time i got a paper ticket was about 2018, and they are fully all in on electronic only tickets.  I HATE electronic tickets.

of course my stub collection is what is important to me.

I'm not a big fan of 'stuff', I'm not materialistic.  So I go see people live and my stub is what I remember them by.  I love my collection.  I only ever had an electronic ticket for when I saw the women's national soccer team play a friendly a few years ago.  It was strictly 100% electronic.

But yeah, now they seem to be going all in on electronic tickets... but it's not for any real reason, it's yet another completely useless 'covid protection' crap, even though literally no one else touches your ticket.  Paper will make a come back when people finally come to their senses about all this useless protection crap.

/Just like reusable grocery bags being banned.  How long is that stupidity going to continue?  I'm going to guess quite a while.
//I'm all for keeping people safe, but the dumbass things we do that don't help just piss me off.


its been going on for a while.  the first time i encountered them was iron maiden 3 years ago?  I think its supposed to be a way to protect against scalpers, but from what i've seen its done nothing to improve ticket prices.  And it makes it more of a pain in the ass if you're buying a ticket for yourself and a friend, because then you have to deal with transferring the ticket, making sure your phone is charged up before you go (because you have to constantly open your phone and show it to ushers), etc.  Such a pain in the ass.

I also don't hold onto much or collect really anything either. The things i'd grab if my house was on fire would be my cat, my guitars, and my stubs, in that order. going to shows has been special to me since my first at 14, and i still have that one in the frame with everything else!
 
2021-05-07 8:02:35 PM  

jake3988: But yeah, now they seem to be going all in on electronic tickets... but it's not for any real reason, it's yet another completely useless 'covid protection' crap, even though literally no one else touches your ticket.  Paper will make a come back when people finally come to their senses about all this useless protection crap.


Covid had nothing to do with it. The acts are sick of getting cut out of the secondary market profits. How does e-ticketing fit in? Offers a few advantages:
1. QR codes that constantly refresh or simply aren't issued until show day, making a ticket nearly impossible to fake. The idea is that it protects fans, which is true, but also...
2. Now anyone who wants to sell their ticket has to transfer it via TM's system. The fan is "protected" and TM captures data to help model future show pricing/access on.
3. In some cases, no transfers are permitted. The only way someone can sell a ticket is by offering it in the TM secondary market, where TM (and the artist) take a fee on any transaction.

/I love stubs and paid $10 to get a "collector's ticket" for the upcoming (postponed) Pearl Jam tour.
//based on the recent presales and general sales for the Genesis tour, dynamic pricing is the future and the future is going to suck
 
2021-05-07 8:23:40 PM  

Already Disturbed: jake3988: But yeah, now they seem to be going all in on electronic tickets... but it's not for any real reason, it's yet another completely useless 'covid protection' crap, even though literally no one else touches your ticket.  Paper will make a come back when people finally come to their senses about all this useless protection crap.

Covid had nothing to do with it. The acts are sick of getting cut out of the secondary market profits. How does e-ticketing fit in? Offers a few advantages:
1. QR codes that constantly refresh or simply aren't issued until show day, making a ticket nearly impossible to fake. The idea is that it protects fans, which is true, but also...
2. Now anyone who wants to sell their ticket has to transfer it via TM's system. The fan is "protected" and TM captures data to help model future show pricing/access on.
3. In some cases, no transfers are permitted. The only way someone can sell a ticket is by offering it in the TM secondary market, where TM (and the artist) take a fee on any transaction.

/I love stubs and paid $10 to get a "collector's ticket" for the upcoming (postponed) Pearl Jam tour.
//based on the recent presales and general sales for the Genesis tour, dynamic pricing is the future and the future is going to suck


I'm agreeing with all that, but this person might also be complaining about the tickets you can scan on the phone OR print at home, and those are still out there, especially at the smaller House of Blues type venues.  For those it's so much easier to not worry about tickets getting lost in the mail, and if going super old school, not having to go to a box office or dealing with busy phone lines when the show is 3 hours away is essential.
 
2021-05-08 7:13:36 AM  

mid6000tek: I work for a venue. Not a live nation, were independent. We expect once things get going to not stop for until the 23-24 season. We didn't have a 20-21 season so were running everything we can to make up for it in the next two seasons. Figuring the first shows in the 21-22 season will be either low attendance or not happening. So maybe around Nov things get going.

Go get your shots. I'm tired of working in an empty building with a quarter of the staff and constant stress of totally closing.


I'm fairly certain everyone in our touring group has the shot by now. Now whether or not the people we usually play for in venues around the Northeast at Christmastime have it or not...that's a whole different story.
 
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