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2021-05-05 11:59:28 PM  
Which NATO country are we supposed to come to the defense of?
 
2021-05-06 1:41:19 AM  
Are they afraid the French will fart in their general direction?
 
2021-05-06 3:16:43 AM  
Welcome to non-treaty fishing rights. Those involved in the fishing industry or who wanted to support it and then voted leave deserve all the Brexit fallout they are about to receive. You vote for no treaties, you get no treaties, you racist nobs.
 
2021-05-06 3:16:57 AM  
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Xai [TotalFark]
2021-05-06 3:20:54 AM  
Brexit is going so well, remember those terrible times when we didn't have to pay to send navy ships to Jersey?
 
2021-05-06 3:26:13 AM  
It's been AGES since we had a good naval conflict between France and Britain.
 
2021-05-06 3:26:16 AM  
 
2021-05-06 3:28:34 AM  

Odin's Other Eye: It's been AGES since we had a good naval conflict between France and Britain.


Somehow I think actual British military vessels would do reasonably well against French fishing boats if it came to that. Though we all know it won't.
 
2021-05-06 3:29:12 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: Welcome to non-treaty fishing rights. Those involved in the fishing industry or who wanted to support it and then voted leave deserve all the Brexit fallout they are about to receive. You vote for no treaties, you get no treaties, you racist nobs.


Huh? This article is about the French fishermen complaining not the British. Jersey controls its own waters and has instituted license requirements to operate there. The French fishermen are failing to provide the information required to get an operator license and are complaining that they should be allowed to fish there as if nothing had changed.
 
2021-05-06 3:31:30 AM  
Damn. Fish is such a commodity in the EU and Brtian they're dragging out old rusted warships? Over cod?
 
2021-05-06 3:31:44 AM  

Nullav: Again?


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2021-05-06 3:33:50 AM  

anuran: Which NATO country are we supposed to come to the defense of?


apparently France rejoined NATO 12 years ago and I was completely unaware of it..
 
2021-05-06 3:39:00 AM  

Mr.Insightful: Odin's Other Eye: It's been AGES since we had a good naval conflict between France and Britain.

Somehow I think actual British military vessels would do reasonably well against French fishing boats if it came to that. Though we all know it won't.


Well you're no fun. I was going to buy a new bicorn hat. 

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2021-05-06 3:40:38 AM  
French fisherman protesting the UK being a bunch of lying dicks you mean. They've come to an agreement for them to continue fishing in the waters but keep putting up red tape barriers to prevent it.
so of course there going to have a pop. their fisherman regularly do this shiat to their own country why would anyone think they'd hold back dealing with Mighty Blighty
 
2021-05-06 3:40:53 AM  

rikrok: gozar_the_destroyer: Welcome to non-treaty fishing rights. Those involved in the fishing industry or who wanted to support it and then voted leave deserve all the Brexit fallout they are about to receive. You vote for no treaties, you get no treaties, you racist nobs.

Huh? This article is about the French fishermen complaining not the British. Jersey controls its own waters and has instituted license requirements to operate there. The French fishermen are failing to provide the information required to get an operator license and are complaining that they should be allowed to fish there as if nothing had changed.


Again, no treaties means they can ignore the current requirements and follow international rules, which are very lax. Want to stop it? Negotiate a treaty. There was one before and everyone was doing just fine. Now you want to change it in a what that favors your fishing fleet? No, that isn't going to fly since it is completely one sided and ignores international treaties that the UK is still part of. Negotiate or follow the current treaties.

BTW, the EU treaties for fishing, like the ones the French fishers want to fallow, favor the UK fishers heavily, just not in international waters and not for every fish type, especially the current desired fish species. Brexit was not only stupid, it is going to kill half of UK fishing since international treaties give very open areas of first come, first served, while having almost no catch limits or quotas.

The UK should negotiate a treaty or 6, unless they want to start paying to import their fish.
 
2021-05-06 3:43:22 AM  

Odin's Other Eye: Mr.Insightful: Odin's Other Eye: It's been AGES since we had a good naval conflict between France and Britain.

Somehow I think actual British military vessels would do reasonably well against French fishing boats if it came to that. Though we all know it won't.

Well you're no fun. I was going to buy a new bicorn hat.

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Nautically, the best choice. I personally prefer a tricorn hat, but it is not the traditional naval officer and captain's hat.
 
2021-05-06 3:44:15 AM  

Mr.Insightful: Odin's Other Eye: It's been AGES since we had a good naval conflict between France and Britain.

Somehow I think actual British military vessels would do reasonably well against French fishing boats if it came to that. Though we all know it won't.


Really? They didn't do so reasonably well against Icelandic fishing boats.
 
2021-05-06 3:50:14 AM  

batlock666: Mr.Insightful: Odin's Other Eye: It's been AGES since we had a good naval conflict between France and Britain.

Somehow I think actual British military vessels would do reasonably well against French fishing boats if it came to that. Though we all know it won't.

Really? They didn't do so reasonably well against Icelandic fishing boats.


Yes, but those were Icelanders...

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2021-05-06 3:50:24 AM  
Once again, the UK decides it should not honor their own words.
 
2021-05-06 3:56:24 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: rikrok: gozar_the_destroyer: Welcome to non-treaty fishing rights. Those involved in the fishing industry or who wanted to support it and then voted leave deserve all the Brexit fallout they are about to receive. You vote for no treaties, you get no treaties, you racist nobs.

Huh? This article is about the French fishermen complaining not the British. Jersey controls its own waters and has instituted license requirements to operate there. The French fishermen are failing to provide the information required to get an operator license and are complaining that they should be allowed to fish there as if nothing had changed.

Again, no treaties means they can ignore the current requirements and follow international rules, which are very lax. Want to stop it? Negotiate a treaty. There was one before and everyone was doing just fine. Now you want to change it in a what that favors your fishing fleet? No, that isn't going to fly since it is completely one sided and ignores international treaties that the UK is still part of. Negotiate or follow the current treaties.

BTW, the EU treaties for fishing, like the ones the French fishers want to fallow, favor the UK fishers heavily, just not in international waters and not for every fish type, especially the current desired fish species. Brexit was not only stupid, it is going to kill half of UK fishing since international treaties give very open areas of first come, first served, while having almost no catch limits or quotas.

The UK should negotiate a treaty or 6, unless they want to start paying to import their fish.


I am as massively anti brexit as anyone alive, but I don't see that you have really understood anything about what this involves?

There is an agreement/treaty in place. The French fishermen don't like how the Jersey authorities are applying it (and its perfectly possible their complaints are valid, but that's an issue for governments to negotiate or international trade discussions). They intend to try to blockade a foreign port to 'force' compliance (this being their habit and has long worked on their own governments). This is absolutely illegal in international law under all circumstances.

It could end very badly if the fishermen don't back down, but its likely to get sorted out somehow as no-one wants to actually have boats being sunk.
 
2021-05-06 4:02:13 AM  
The UK should negotiate a treaty or 6, unless they want to start paying to import their fish.

What's the point of signing a treaty with the UK if they are not going to honor it?
 
2021-05-06 4:10:05 AM  
On one hand, responding to having to jump through a few extra hoops by threatening to cut off 95% of the electricity to 100,000+ people on an island is a pretty dick move.

On the other hand, my witch-in-law lives in Jersey, so never mind, go ahead.
 
2021-05-06 4:21:02 AM  

anuran: Which NATO country are we supposed to come to the defense of?


I would think France, since Brexit might mean we need to renegotiate the Britain part of NATO.

I mean, I have no idea, but it sounds as good as anything else going on over there.
 
2021-05-06 4:26:28 AM  

anuran: Which NATO country are we supposed to come to the defense of?


Well if we're going to replay the Napoleonic wars I guess it's France, but that means we might have to fight the Canadians again.
 
2021-05-06 4:49:57 AM  
Also, how would navy ships prevent the power from being cut ?

Once again, this is bullshiat posturing from the UK government.

"WE'LL SEND THE NAVY BECAUSE WE RULE THE SEAS !"
***Jean-René pulls a switch on the French side, power is cut***
"shiat, what now ? Also, Nigel, did you remember to ask for the Exocet shutdown codes ?"
 
2021-05-06 5:07:52 AM  
Following enquiries from our customers regarding the French fishing dispute, JE can reassure customers that in the unlikely event electricity supplies from France are disrupted, La Collette Power Station and Queens' Road has capacity to supply Jersey's electricity requirements pic.twitter.com/2W0WR3lGTf

- Jersey Electricity plc (@electricjersey) May 5, 2021
 
2021-05-06 6:05:15 AM  
As an aside my family came from Jersey, so yeah I wouldn't mind getting drunk there as a sort of bucket-list thing.
 
2021-05-06 6:06:31 AM  
This is totally fine and has no potential for ongoing, long-term escalation.  This will be the end of it, I'm sure.
 
2021-05-06 6:07:20 AM  

padraig: Also, how would navy ships prevent the power from being cut ?

Once again, this is bullshiat posturing from the UK government.

"WE'LL SEND THE NAVY BECAUSE WE RULE THE SEAS !"
***Jean-René pulls a switch on the French side, power is cut***
"shiat, what now ? Also, Nigel, did you remember to ask for the Exocet shutdown codes ?"


It's in response to a threat of 200 French fishing boats blockading the port in Jersey.
 
2021-05-06 6:08:37 AM  

padraig: Also, how would navy ships prevent the power from being cut ?

Once again, this is bullshiat posturing from the UK government.

"WE'LL SEND THE NAVY BECAUSE WE RULE THE SEAS !"
***Jean-René pulls a switch on the French side, power is cut***
"shiat, what now ? Also, Nigel, did you remember to ask for the Exocet shutdown codes ?"


This is a new one for me:  you didn't even read the headline!  You're Farking wrong mate.
 
2021-05-06 6:22:19 AM  

maxheck: As an aside my family came from Jersey, so yeah I wouldn't mind getting drunk there as a sort of bucket-list thing.


Handy, as the widely accepted definition of Jersey is 100,000 tax-dodging alcoholics clinging to a rock. All the ones I've met while there were utter piss heads only interested in money, screwing everyone else over, money and posing.

It's all pretty jolly stuff, in a highly pretentious way, until you learn about the horrors of the Nazi occupation.  The underground hospital is the stuff of nightmares.
 
2021-05-06 6:26:22 AM  

rikrok:

Following enquiries from our customers regarding the French fishing dispute, JE can reassure customers that in the unlikely event electricity supplies from France are disrupted, La Collette Power Station and Queens' Road has capacity to supply Jersey's electricity requirements pic.twitter.com/2W0WR3lGTf- Jersey Electricity plc (@electricjersey) May 5, 2021


They have backup diesel generators?
 
2021-05-06 6:53:26 AM  

Only You Can See This: maxheck: As an aside my family came from Jersey, so yeah I wouldn't mind getting drunk there as a sort of bucket-list thing.

Handy, as the widely accepted definition of Jersey is 100,000 tax-dodging alcoholics clinging to a rock. All the ones I've met while there were utter piss heads only interested in money, screwing everyone else over, money and posing.

It's all pretty jolly stuff, in a highly pretentious way, until you learn about the horrors of the Nazi occupation.  The underground hospital is the stuff of nightmares.


Ha!
My mom used to say that about my dad!

/ yes he grew up in Jersey
// yes he was a drinker
/// the nazi occupation gave them plenty to drink about.
 
2021-05-06 6:56:00 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: rikrok: Following enquiries from our customers regarding the French fishing dispute, JE can reassure customers that in the unlikely event electricity supplies from France are disrupted, La Collette Power Station and Queens' Road has capacity to supply Jersey's electricity requirements pic.twitter.com/2W0WR3lGTf- Jersey Electricity plc (@electricjersey) May 5, 2021

They have backup diesel generators?


Yea along with a gas turbine, a waste burning plant and a bit of solar. No idea how much fuel they have on hand though, it seems more like an emergency supplement than a replacement.
 
2021-05-06 7:05:33 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: rikrok:

Following enquiries from our customers regarding the French fishing dispute, JE can reassure customers that in the unlikely event electricity supplies from France are disrupted, La Collette Power Station and Queens' Road has capacity to supply Jersey's electricity requirements pic.twitter.com/2W0WR3lGTf- Jersey Electricity plc (@electricjersey) May 5, 2021


They have backup diesel generators?


Follow up question:  how much diesel do they have?
 
2021-05-06 7:19:52 AM  

rikrok: gozar_the_destroyer: Welcome to non-treaty fishing rights. Those involved in the fishing industry or who wanted to support it and then voted leave deserve all the Brexit fallout they are about to receive. You vote for no treaties, you get no treaties, you racist nobs.

Huh? This article is about the French fishermen complaining not the British. Jersey controls its own waters and has instituted license requirements to operate there. The French fishermen are failing to provide the information required to get an operator license and are complaining that they should be allowed to fish there as if nothing had changed.


Go check your fark narrative notes.
Jersey must be super-hyper-mega-racist to deny fishing licenses to white French fishermen and they're totally justified in taking reparations any way they see fit.
 
2021-05-06 7:23:21 AM  
This will be the dumbest, most confusing chapter in world history in about 50 years.

"Wait... this chapter is called "The Causes and Lead-up to World War III", why is there an entire section about fishing regulations?"

"They say that history is written by the winners.   They are wrong.  History is written by a fickle god with a sick sense of humor.  Never forget it, Timmy.  Anyway, that's when the French signed a treaty with the Balkans to get access to their ports for fishing purposes, and we all know how things end when the Balkans are involved in international treaties."

"What's that?"

"Serbians, Susie.  Serbians happen."
 
2021-05-06 7:33:07 AM  

rikrok: Ketchuponsteak: rikrok: Following enquiries from our customers regarding the French fishing dispute, JE can reassure customers that in the unlikely event electricity supplies from France are disrupted, La Collette Power Station and Queens' Road has capacity to supply Jersey's electricity requirements pic.twitter.com/2W0WR3lGTf- Jersey Electricity plc (@electricjersey) May 5, 2021

They have backup diesel generators?

Yea along with a gas turbine, a waste burning plant and a bit of solar. No idea how much fuel they have on hand though, it seems more like an emergency supplement than a replacement.


Probably takes a bit to fire up. But I assume they are getting ready now that France has aired the possibility.
 
2021-05-06 7:37:42 AM  

Flab: Ketchuponsteak: rikrok:

Following enquiries from our customers regarding the French fishing dispute, JE can reassure customers that in the unlikely event electricity supplies from France are disrupted, La Collette Power Station and Queens' Road has capacity to supply Jersey's electricity requirements pic.twitter.com/2W0WR3lGTf- Jersey Electricity plc (@electricjersey) May 5, 2021


They have backup diesel generators?

Follow up question:  how much diesel do they have?


They might have cold war storages.

I live in Denmark, so I know Denmark has cold war diesel storage to last for  year or so.

The problem with the Danish storage is that it's from a time when there were different requirements for environmental protection. It's full of lead, so it just sits there still, even though the threat or availability of energy has changed.
 
2021-05-06 7:58:01 AM  

Xai: Brexit is going so well, remember those terrible times when we didn't have to pay to send navy ships to Jersey?


This is about Jersey. Jersey was never in the EU.
 
2021-05-06 8:16:34 AM  
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2021-05-06 8:47:47 AM  

Gyrfalcon: anuran: Which NATO country are we supposed to come to the defense of?

I would think France, since Brexit might mean we need to renegotiate the Britain part of NATO.

I mean, I have no idea, but it sounds as good as anything else going on over there.


You want to kick the UK, a nuclear power and one of the most powerful militaries in Europe, out of NATO?

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When one side resorts so blockades and threatening to cut off electricity it usually means they're the one with no actual case. France is behaving like Trump. You know damn well Trump would have threatened to cut off Canada's electricity if he could have.
 
2021-05-06 9:05:53 AM  

padraig: The UK should negotiate a treaty or 6, unless they want to start paying to import their fish.

What's the point of signing a treaty with the UK if they are not going to honor it?


What's the point of signing a treaty with the UK when this is about Jersey, which isn't a part of the UK?

/Bailiwick
 
2021-05-06 9:10:29 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: You know damn well Trump would have threatened to cut off Canada's electricity if he could have.


Go for it Canada is a net exporter of electricity. It might suck for British Columbia but maybe then those hippies will reconsider a pipeline or two.
 
2021-05-06 9:18:12 AM  
Let's just check on the current location of Jersey, who's allegiance is to Britain
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WTF?
 
2021-05-06 9:18:32 AM  

RTOGUY: Carter Pewterschmidt: You know damn well Trump would have threatened to cut off Canada's electricity if he could have.

Go for it Canada is a net exporter of electricity. It might suck for British Columbia but maybe then those hippies will reconsider a pipeline or two.


Hence my "if he could have" comment.....
 
2021-05-06 9:24:04 AM  

DrD'isInfotainment: Let's just check on the current location of Jersey, who's allegiance is to Britain [jerseyislandholidays.com image 758x766]WTF?


Let's just check on the current location of French Polynesia, who's allegiance is to France.

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2021-05-06 9:55:07 AM  

DrD'isInfotainment: Let's just check on the current location of Jersey, who's allegiance is to Britain [jerseyislandholidays.com image 758x766]WTF?


If you don't like that, blame the Duke of Normandy. He shouldn't have successfully invaded Britain.
 
2021-05-06 10:00:04 AM  

RTOGUY: Carter Pewterschmidt: You know damn well Trump would have threatened to cut off Canada's electricity if he could have.

Go for it Canada is a net exporter of electricity. It might suck for British Columbia but maybe then those hippies will reconsider a pipeline or two.


I wonder who supplies the electricity to Point Roberts....

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2021-05-06 10:29:34 AM  
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"Everything's legal in Jersey!"
 
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