Skip to content
Do you have adblock enabled?
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(BBC-US)   Pandora says it will no longer sell mined diamonds and will switch to exclusively laboratory-made diamonds. I'm still just going to use Spotify   (bbc.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Diamond, Antwerp World Diamond Centre, last year, small share, Democratic Republic of the Congo, new diamond jewellery, pieces Pandora sells, diamond industry  
•       •       •

870 clicks; posted to Main » on 04 May 2021 at 1:33 PM (4 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



46 Comments     (+0 »)
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest
 
4 days ago  
Right, and next you'll tell me Jared will stop selling subs.
 
4 days ago  
And I'm sure they'll charge the same prices.
 
4 days ago  
Still getting ripped off...
 
4 days ago  
Thank god. I was really worried there would be blood diamonds in the 40 dollar tacky charm bracelet i get for my baby mama on mothers day.
 
4 days ago  
The ethics of it aren't the point. If you sell me a dog shiat ring for $10000 it'll prove I love my fiancée more than you love yours and that we're better people.

But it better be blood dog shiat. If some kid didn't die scooping, what was the point?
 
4 days ago  

Benevolent Misanthrope: And I'm sure they'll charge the same prices.


I'm sure they'll market them as 100% premium, flawless, non-blood soaked diamonds and charge more for them because they're even more scarce than the blood soaked kind.

I can't wait until I hear "Oh Suzie! Just LOOK at my new diamond! I had it made from the ashes of my dead ex-husband."
 
4 days ago  
Ditched Pandora when they donated to Trumps campaign.
 
4 days ago  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
4 days ago  
I can see this leading to problems down the line if the prices are way cheaper and he's deceitful about it being a real diamond, but you'd hope the couple would know enough about each other's finances to figure that out beforehand.

Diamonds are stupidly overpriced and I feel like it's really just a game for girls to show off to their friends.
 
4 days ago  

Marcos P: Still getting ripped off...


All fashion items are a ripoff from a cost of materials perspective.  Doesn't stop people from wanting to be fashionable, though
 
4 days ago  

bhcompy: Marcos P: Still getting ripped off...

All fashion items are a ripoff from a cost of materials perspective.  Doesn't stop people from wanting to be fashionable, though


Good day ma'am, how many dollars would you like to wear in your ears?
 
4 days ago  
I like to know the sheer volume of diamonds Debeers has stashed away.  I know it's in the multiple billions of dollars.

And yet they still just keep on digging like Tolkien's dwarves.
 
4 days ago  
Pandora Peaks thread?

/anyone?
/or is she too "old school"?
 
4 days ago  
Conflict diamonds account for a very tiny percentage of all the stones that go to market. If you are shopping at a retail jewelry store, you will probably never see one.

While noble, the campaign against blood diamonds has done little except further shore up the market share of the DeBeers cartel, which can provide provenance to a stone that you can't get from a stone sourced from the open market.

Its still a complete scam though. Diamonds are not rare, they are only as expensive as they are from the DeBeers people hoarding as many as they can and running some evilly brilliant marketing (mainly the 3-month salary thing and creating a taboo about selling and buying diamonds 2nd hand).

Even knowing its a scam though, its still hard not to fall for it. They just make women so farking happy.
 
4 days ago  

ottebx: Benevolent Misanthrope: And I'm sure they'll charge the same prices.

I'm sure they'll market them as 100% premium, flawless, non-blood soaked diamonds and charge more for them because they're even more scarce than the blood soaked kind.

I can't wait until I hear "Oh Suzie! Just LOOK at my new diamond! I had it made from the ashes of my dead ex-husband."


The ads on the radio around here market them as "artisan-created" diamonds, with the advantage of being able to get a slightly larger one for the same price.
 
4 days ago  

ottebx: Benevolent Misanthrope: And I'm sure they'll charge the same prices.

I'm sure they'll market them as 100% premium, flawless, non-blood soaked diamonds and charge more for them because they're even more scarce than the blood soaked kind.

I can't wait until I hear "Oh Suzie! Just LOOK at my new diamond! I had it made from the ashes of my dead ex-husband."


You know, I looked into Pandora beads.  I'm losing a goodly amount of weight, and I was looking for something I can reward myself with that isn't food.  So I chose a pandora-type necklace.  Every 10 pounds, I get a nice bead.

Then I looked at the price.  40-100 fricken bucks for a glass bead???

F*ck that noise.  I went on eBay and got a nice assortment of Murano glass euro-style beads for about $25, and a sterling necklace for them.  No brand, no1curr.  Still pretty.  Still reinforces me with a visible reminder of progress.
 
4 days ago  
The souls of dead African kids add a luster that you just don't get in lab diamonds
 
4 days ago  
Next, we'll be hearing about blood peanut butter being used in the diamond presses.
 
4 days ago  

Hills-Sachs_Legion: The souls of dead African kids add a luster that you just don't get in lab diamonds


There are diamonds mined in the Canadian arctic if you aren't into the souls of dead kids. At worst some caribou were mildly inconvenienced.
 
4 days ago  

Doctoral Candidate Zaius: I can see this leading to problems down the line if the prices are way cheaper and he's deceitful about it being a real diamond, but you'd hope the couple would know enough about each other's finances to figure that out beforehand.

Diamonds are stupidly overpriced and I feel like it's really just a game for girls to show off to their friends.


I mean at the end of the day a diamond is a diamond. I'm sure we will end up with ultimately another certification as to if its natural or lab, if such a thing doesn't already exist, and natural will carry a higher price tag and thus more prestige.

But at the same time if you don't care if its natural or not, there are countless things out there that don't have the same molecular structure that blow a diamond away at fractions of the percent of a price in what people really look at when choosing a "real" diamond. But they don't, because they want a real diamond.
 
4 days ago  
Fark user imageView Full Size


As long as people at the diamond-making factories are ruthlessly exploited. That's the whole point of diamonds.
 
4 days ago  
Synthetic diamonds are pretty much flawless, unlike natural diamonds. At some point, natural diamonds will only be good for cutting tools and abrasives.
 
4 days ago  

Benevolent Misanthrope: And I'm sure they'll charge the same prices.


Why wouldn't they? You're getting the same value.
 
4 days ago  
Pandora is way better than Spotify subs... jus sayin'.
 
4 days ago  

LineNoise: Thank god. I was really worried there would be blood diamonds in the 40 dollar tacky charm bracelet i get for my baby mama on mothers day.


Right!  I always thought those bracelets were just marketing drivel.
 
4 days ago  

Ivo Shandor: ottebx: Benevolent Misanthrope: And I'm sure they'll charge the same prices.

I'm sure they'll market them as 100% premium, flawless, non-blood soaked diamonds and charge more for them because they're even more scarce than the blood soaked kind.

I can't wait until I hear "Oh Suzie! Just LOOK at my new diamond! I had it made from the ashes of my dead ex-husband."

The ads on the radio around here market them as "artisan-created" diamonds, with the advantage of being able to get a slightly larger one for the same price.


I was going to make this same comment. As a bit of a marketing hack, I gotta give them props for this. I can't remember the name of the chain store that started this. Been a while since I've listened to the radio much for some reason.
 
4 days ago  
But... but... my diamond must be a real diamond from the ground! That's the only way I can know my partner loves me!
 
4 days ago  
Roisin Murphy-Pandora
Youtube ePovb8JA-RQ
 
4 days ago  

Ivo Shandor: The ads on the radio around here market them as "artisan-created" diamonds


I'm a bit surprised that still works as a marketing adjective. FFS, McDonald's sells "artisanal" products. It's only a matter of time until Top Ramen is re-branded Artisanal Top Ramen.
 
4 days ago  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Synthetic diamonds are pretty much flawless, unlike natural diamonds. At some point, natural diamonds will only be good for cutting tools and abrasives.


Synthetic diamonds have all the same flaws. The Color is generally deliberately chosen based upon the source/seed material. The manufactured diamond has inclusions just like natural stones. The Cut is based upon the success in faceting and cutting. The Carat is obviously just the size. Don't assume that because they are manufactured that every stone is going to come out flawless.
 
4 days ago  
im.ezgif.comView Full Size
 
4 days ago  

Moosedick Gladys Greengroin: [Fark user image 425x447]


Nope, not interested in finding out what's in the box, thanks.
 
4 days ago  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
4 days ago  

MelGoesOnTour: Pandora Peaks thread?

/anyone?
/or is she too "old school"?


If she's too old school for you, I humbly suggest Anna Bell Peaks.

Fark user imageView Full Size
 
4 days ago  

Invincible: I was going to make this same comment. As a bit of a marketing hack, I gotta give them props for this. I can't remember the name of the chain store that started this. Been a while since I've listened to the radio much for some reason.


Here it was Spence Diamonds. I'm not likely to ever spend any money there but I do admire the hustle.
 
4 days ago  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I'm losing a goodly amount of weight, and I was looking for something I can reward myself with that isn't food.  So I chose a pandora-type necklace.  Every 10 pounds, I get a nice bead.


That's excellent. Good idea, and good for you.
 
4 days ago  

Ivo Shandor: Invincible: I was going to make this same comment. As a bit of a marketing hack, I gotta give them props for this. I can't remember the name of the chain store that started this. Been a while since I've listened to the radio much for some reason.

Here it was Spence Diamonds. I'm not likely to ever spend any money there but I do admire the hustle.


Spence! I spent a while trying to google it but couldn't come up with the name. Big in the Toronto area as well.
 
4 days ago  
If it causes the price to DROP on a NOT rare stone, that De Beers hordes to keep the price up,
that's a good thing.  A piece of pressurized carbon, shouldn't be that expensive.

izquotes.comView Full Size
 
4 days ago  
DeBeets isn't the largest seller of diamonds anymore. That honor belongs to some corrupt Russian cartel whos name escapes me at the moment.
 
4 days ago  

Olthoi: DeBeets isn't the largest seller of diamonds anymore. That honor belongs to some corrupt Russian cartel whos name escapes me at the moment.


ALROSA, but DeBeers still has higher revenue.
 
4 days ago  

KingOfTown: MelGoesOnTour: Pandora Peaks thread?

/anyone?
/or is she too "old school"?

If she's too old school for you, I humbly suggest Anna Bell Peaks.

[Fark user image 425x636]


Sorry, I'm allergic to tatt's.

(Tatt's...not tits).
 
3 days ago  
I worked in the industry a little and it's fascinating.  For one, a lot of the diamonds you would buy in a commercial setting are pre owned.  Lots of relationships fail and lots of people use diamond jewellery as a sort of insurance policy to sell if they need to.  You hardly get anything back though.  I had a couple of VVS1 half carat diamonds that were initially appraised at just shy of 15K Canadian.  Selling them second hand I got barely over 1500 for them.  Those in turn will get sold to a place like Spence or Kay and be marked way the hell back up.

A lot of people don't consider label grown diamonds to be 'real'.  They would take a natural diamond that is smaller, with visible inclusions over a larger, internally flawless one.

Also, the Cs are largely BS.  For colour you can drop all the way down to G or H and not be able to tell their difference, especially if it's in a yellow gold setting.  For clarity on a smallish diamond you can easily get away with SI and not be able to tell the difference.  Bigger than half a carat and it's probably worth getting vs.  Vvs and IF can only be determined with magnification.  Carat is the biggest scam.  Price goes up exponentially with size because so does the rarity.  It's way more important to get a setting you like and matches the hand size of the person, then matching a stone  that fits nicely for both.  The one that really, truly matters is cut.  If the cut is off even a little you get dark spots be caused diamonds rely on the total internal reflection of the light to get the sparkle effect and you're want the refracted colours to exit via the top facets, not the bottom one.  It is worth getting whatever the version of perfect or ideal cut that is available.  If you go in and basically outline what you want for the Cs and are insistent they have a much harder time up selling you, and often you can get a good deal on something that is harder to sell because it's not what they usually push on clientèle.

The weird truism that actually isn't, is how common diamonds are.  They aren't rare on the order they are marketed, but the mine I worked at was producing 13 carats per hundred tonnes of rock.  That is before cutting or grading for jewelry.  There are more productive spots, but large producing kimberlite formations either aren't as common as you think, or are  extremely remote.  DeBeers os truly evil though.  They bought all of the land surrounding our mine so when it came time to apply for full scale licensing we could get the mineral rights, but had no reasonable access to the formations beyond a small area.  They had no intention of producing...  They just didn't want us to.
 
3 days ago  
Giorgio Moroder - Diamonds (Audio) ft. Charli XCX
Youtube eew5gEZDe_k
I remember hearing this song a couple times then thinking, "That song isn't really about diamonds."

I think it's about bukkake. Which is probably more renewable than diamonds.

Just something to think about.
 
3 days ago  
What, did they forget to respect Eywa and the Na'vi started fighting back?
 
3 days ago  
Pandora's chief executive, Alexander Lacik, told the BBC the change was part of a broader sustainability drive.
He said the firm was pursuing it because "it's the right thing to do".


I don't believe that for a second. No corporation does something because it's the right thing to do. Their sole existence is to make ever increasing profit. Anything else they say is a lie.
 
3 days ago  

Gordon Bennett: Pandora's chief executive, Alexander Lacik, told the BBC the change was part of a broader sustainability drive.
He said the firm was pursuing it because "it's the right thing to do".

I don't believe that for a second. No corporation does something because it's the right thing to do. Their sole existence is to make ever increasing profit. Anything else they say is a lie.


If profits are falling because of blood diamonds = bad PR then changing that is right thing to do
 
Displayed 46 of 46 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking





On Twitter



  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.