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(Al Jazeera)   Australia: Now that we think about it, perhaps allowing China to buy one of our key shipping ports was a horrible, greedy, incredibly shortsighted decision   (aljazeera.com) divider line
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3773 clicks; posted to Main » and Politics » on 03 May 2021 at 10:41 PM (4 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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4 days ago  
Look out, a bunch of Australian nationals are gonna find themselves in Chinese prisons on bullshiat espionage charges.
 
4 days ago  
That does seem like kind of a dumb idea.
 
4 days ago  

Lochsteppe: That does seem like kind of a dumb idea.


Not for the people making $$$ from it.
 
4 days ago  
They told me the holes in the sides of the containers were speed-holes.
 
4 days ago  
Surely that won't come back to bite people in other countries... *cough*
 
4 days ago  

Bondith: Look out, a bunch of Australian nationals are gonna find themselves in Chinese prisons on bullshiat espionage charges.


Any country that has a dispute with China, no matter how trivial, should always tell their citizens to leave China immediately. Then start up the dispute.  China has a history of farking with tourists and business visitors for political and economic gain. They've even convicted people on bogus charges with the death penalty, though I don't know if they've ever followed through with the execution.

China is asshole.
 
4 days ago  
Short sighted, with no discernable benefit other than gaining a few ducats for now? Selling national and regional security for no reason?

That's my capitalism!
 
4 days ago  
Let me add toll roads to the list of things that should not be sold to or run by any foreign or international entity.
 
4 days ago  

HighwayBill: Let me add toll roads to the list of things that should not be sold to or run by any foreign or international entity.


WTF? Yes, your correct. OMFG.
 
4 days ago  
Key, or quay?
 
4 days ago  
and yet we'll all be so stunned when China becomes the dominant world power.
Shocked I tell you.  Shocked.
Never saw it coming.
 
3 days ago  

HighwayBill: Let me add toll roads to the list of things that should not be sold to or run by any foreign or international entity.


Any kind of infrastructure, really.
 
3 days ago  

Bondith: Look out, a bunch of Australian nationals are gonna find themselves in Chinese prisons on bullshiat espionage charges.


The ethnic cleansing of the filthy, degenerate non-Han barbarians of the world may take generations, but China is patient.  Very, very patient.

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3 days ago  
Oh, in case anyone was wondering, this is a sentence written in the passive voice:

"his department is reviewing the ownership by a Chinese company of a strategically important port used as a base for U.S. Marines."

It's unclear, it puts the important parts of the sentence last, and it uses a weak structure to downplay who is doing what to whom.

Better: "The ownership of the Port of Darwin is under review by [his department]. The port is owned by a Chinese company and is a strategically important port used as a base for the US Marines."
 
3 days ago  
Oz has a good reputation, But man o man the gubberment really are a bunch of shifty farkholes on the down low.
 
3 days ago  
The People's Republic of China is the biggest threat to both freedom in the World today, and has been for a long time.
 
3 days ago  

dittybopper: The People's Republic of China is the biggest threat to both freedom in the World today, and has been for a long time.


FTFM.
 
3 days ago  

HoratioGates: Lochsteppe: That does seem like kind of a dumb idea.

They could have rented it to them for 99 years.  I mean, that worked out wonderfully for Hong Kong.

/Weird analogy since Hong Kong is getting screwed by moving from a freer nation to a more autocratic one, but who knows where things will be in 99 years.

waxbeans: Yeah. Bad idea. It's even worse idea when you let foreign scumbags buy housing in your cities and states. But nobody will listen! enjoy being homeless you farking idiots.

Not sure if serious and racist or just trolling/trying at irony.. the housing being bought up by foreigners that I think you are talking about is the super high end stuff that really doesn't affect the market for regular people housing.  Two much bigger problems are NIMBYism keeping communities from building denser housing projects (frequently for racist, but almost always at least for classist reasons) and Airbnb, which encourages landlords to rent out apartments, even if it's just for a few days a month, because they can make more money in a couple weekends than they could in a whole month.  Immigration is the only thing keeping the U.S. from demographic collapse.  We don't have enough kids of our own so we are graying.  Someone needs to get jobs to pay for our baby boomers' retirement.  There aren't enough Made In America workers per old person retiring to do it without help.  If there is space, and it's not being blocked by NIMBYism or being used for Airbnb the market will sort out most housing issues, but the first one has been a problem for centuries and the second one is only getting worse.  Throw in the fact that we are more likely to push rent control (which generally shrink the amount of housing stock built) instead of rent subsidies (which generally increase the amount of housing stock but which cost the government money and we've got serious structural problems.


I thought he was referring to absent landlords that hide behind three corporations formed by the individual landlords in Rhode Island, California, and New York State. (When dealing with slum property and wrongful evictions, those three states are listed more often than any other state.) Sometimes the owner is a foreign national. Most of the time the owner is American born. Of course, I am categorizing the owners who can be found. With the worst properties and abuses, the owner cannot be found at all. But, yeah, I thought he was referring to the practice of using a dozen single family houses as investment property, hiding behind the corporate form, abusing tenants, and sometimes being a foreign national.
 
3 days ago  

HighwayBill: Let me add toll roads to the list of things that should not be sold to or run by any foreign or international entity.


Ontario has learned that... hopefully our Conservative party has learned it as well.

Also, Username checks out.
 
3 days ago  

Gyrfalcon: Oh, in case anyone was wondering, this is a sentence written in the passive voice:

"his department is reviewing the ownership by a Chinese company of a strategically important port used as a base for U.S. Marines."

It's unclear, it puts the important parts of the sentence last, and it uses a weak structure to downplay who is doing what to whom.

Better: "The ownership of the Port of Darwin is under review by [his department]. The port is owned by a Chinese company and is a strategically important port used as a base for the US Marines."


Your sentence is better. I might go with the sentence below:

Ownership of a strategically important port used as a base for the US Marines, the Port of Darwin, is under review by [-] department due to a long-term lease sold to a Chinese company.
 
3 days ago  
Since this somehow turned into a landlord-tenant thread, I have a mildly amusing story that arose due to my life-long struggle with impulse control issues.

I set about the task of explaining to a landlord why his property was illegal and must have maintenance and repairs. He was a relatively new American citizen and a first generation immigrant from Africa. He took great offense insisting that his property was good property. He seemed to think I was insulting him and his property. I pressed on until he exclaimed "Do you know how people live in Africa?"

I replied "Do you know why people leave Africa and come here?" Dead silence. He stared at me. As I was silently berating myself for blurting out something before thinking, he started laughing. He laughed and laughed. He opened up to listening and even asked how he could learn more.

My relief that the meeting didn't go sideways was immense. Someday, I will learn to filter on my feet.
 
3 days ago  

Bondith: Look out, a bunch of Australian nationals are gonna find themselves in Chinese prisons on bullshiat espionage charges.


They're definitely spies.

If Canada didn't want their spies to be arrested, they shouldn't have allowed their justice system to be coopted as a political tool for our fascists desire to punish people for dealing with Iran.

Even more, it's fascinating that even here people can twist themselves into knots thinking that Trump was bad in every single way, acknowledge how evil and cruel everything he did was...and somehow conclude he was being the good guy towards China.

News flash: We're the aggressors in this world. We initiated all the world conflicts we're in. Anything people do back is self defense, not assault.

America is never the victim until we shut down the war machine. Stop pretending.
 
3 days ago  

numinous: Bondith: Look out, a bunch of Australian nationals are gonna find themselves in Chinese prisons on bullshiat espionage charges.

They're definitely spies.

If Canada didn't want their spies to be arrested, they shouldn't have allowed their justice system to be coopted as a political tool for our fascists desire to punish people for dealing with Iran.


*quizzicaldog.jpg*

Even more, it's fascinating that even here people can twist themselves into knots thinking that Trump was bad in every single way, acknowledge how evil and cruel everything he did was...and somehow conclude he was being the good guy towards China.

Did I mention Trump?  Or Iran for that matter?  Try to stay on topic.
 
3 days ago  

Gyrfalcon: Oh, in case anyone was wondering, this is a sentence written in the passive voice:

"his department is reviewing the ownership by a Chinese company of a strategically important port used as a base for U.S. Marines."

It's unclear, it puts the important parts of the sentence last, and it uses a weak structure to downplay who is doing what to whom.

Better: "The ownership of the Port of Darwin is under review by [his department]. The port is owned by a Chinese company and is a strategically important port used as a base for the US Marines."


Backwards:

Active voice = person is doing thing; subject is the person; object is the thing

Passive voice = thing is being done; subject is the thing; object is the person
 
3 days ago  

numinous: Bondith: Look out, a bunch of Australian nationals are gonna find themselves in Chinese prisons on bullshiat espionage charges.

They're definitely spies.

If Canada didn't want their spies to be arrested, they shouldn't have allowed their justice system to be coopted as a political tool for our fascists desire to punish people for dealing with Iran.

Even more, it's fascinating that even here people can twist themselves into knots thinking that Trump was bad in every single way, acknowledge how evil and cruel everything he did was...and somehow conclude he was being the good guy towards China.

News flash: We're the aggressors in this world. We initiated all the world conflicts we're in. Anything people do back is self defense, not assault.

America is never the victim until we shut down the war machine. Stop pretending.


I believe that is whataboutism, but in a weird form: America did this, therefore in this unrelated dispute between a different country, Australia, and China, China must be the one in the right.

Fascinating.
 
3 days ago  

RogueWallEnthusiast: HighwayBill: Let me add toll roads to the list of things that should not be sold to or run by any foreign or international entity.

Ontario has learned that... hopefully our Conservative party has learned it as well.

Also, Username checks out.



That's hilarious!

You used "conservative" and "learn" in the same sentence.

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3 days ago  

Bondith: numinous: Bondith: Look out, a bunch of Australian nationals are gonna find themselves in Chinese prisons on bullshiat espionage charges.

They're definitely spies.

If Canada didn't want their spies to be arrested, they shouldn't have allowed their justice system to be coopted as a political tool for our fascists desire to punish people for dealing with Iran.

*quizzicaldog.jpg*

Even more, it's fascinating that even here people can twist themselves into knots thinking that Trump was bad in every single way, acknowledge how evil and cruel everything he did was...and somehow conclude he was being the good guy towards China.

Did I mention Trump?  Or Iran for that matter?  Try to stay on topic.


? No, I did. It's relevant because he was responsible for subverting the Canadian justice system for his political goals.

Of course, you don't care about truth, only feelings.
 
3 days ago  

INTERTRON: numinous: Bondith: Look out, a bunch of Australian nationals are gonna find themselves in Chinese prisons on bullshiat espionage charges.

They're definitely spies.

If Canada didn't want their spies to be arrested, they shouldn't have allowed their justice system to be coopted as a political tool for our fascists desire to punish people for dealing with Iran.

Even more, it's fascinating that even here people can twist themselves into knots thinking that Trump was bad in every single way, acknowledge how evil and cruel everything he did was...and somehow conclude he was being the good guy towards China.

News flash: We're the aggressors in this world. We initiated all the world conflicts we're in. Anything people do back is self defense, not assault.

America is never the victim until we shut down the war machine. Stop pretending.

I believe that is whataboutism, but in a weird form: America did this, therefore in this unrelated dispute between a different country, Australia, and China, China must be the one in the right.

Fascinating.


Did you call him out for whataboutism for bringing up Canadian spies being arrested in the thread about Australia?

I believe that is called... Hypocrisy.
 
3 days ago  

Rock Krenn: RogueWallEnthusiast: HighwayBill: Let me add toll roads to the list of things that should not be sold to or run by any foreign or international entity.

Ontario has learned that... hopefully our Conservative party has learned it as well.

Also, Username checks out.


That's hilarious!

You used "conservative" and "learn" in the same sentence.

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Wishful thinking I know, but sometimes they change course after it personally affects them.  See random sampling of cons pols with gay kids, trans kids, losing their gardener, etc.
 
3 days ago  

INTERTRON: Gyrfalcon: Oh, in case anyone was wondering, this is a sentence written in the passive voice:

"his department is reviewing the ownership by a Chinese company of a strategically important port used as a base for U.S. Marines."

It's unclear, it puts the important parts of the sentence last, and it uses a weak structure to downplay who is doing what to whom.

Better: "The ownership of the Port of Darwin is under review by [his department]. The port is owned by a Chinese company and is a strategically important port used as a base for the US Marines."

Backwards:

Active voice = person is doing thing; subject is the person; object is the thing

Passive voice = thing is being done; subject is the thing; object is the person


The best example I can think of is a currently airing TV commercial for some drug. Amongst the list of side effects is this gem: "some cancers have happened"

Whoopsie-poopsie!!
 
3 days ago  

numinous: INTERTRON: numinous: Bondith: Look out, a bunch of Australian nationals are gonna find themselves in Chinese prisons on bullshiat espionage charges.

They're definitely spies.

If Canada didn't want their spies to be arrested, they shouldn't have allowed their justice system to be coopted as a political tool for our fascists desire to punish people for dealing with Iran.

Even more, it's fascinating that even here people can twist themselves into knots thinking that Trump was bad in every single way, acknowledge how evil and cruel everything he did was...and somehow conclude he was being the good guy towards China.

News flash: We're the aggressors in this world. We initiated all the world conflicts we're in. Anything people do back is self defense, not assault.

America is never the victim until we shut down the war machine. Stop pretending.

I believe that is whataboutism, but in a weird form: America did this, therefore in this unrelated dispute between a different country, Australia, and China, China must be the one in the right.

Fascinating.

Did you call him out for whataboutism for bringing up Canadian spies being arrested in the thread about Australia?

I believe that is called... Hypocrisy.


Yes, it is, by him -- I didn't even realize he brought a fourth country into it, lol

So by his logic, because he thinks America is bad, that means that in this dispute between China and Australia, Canada is the one in the wrong?  lol
 
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