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4 days ago  
How is that an issue? All Australians are criminals anyway. Send those miscreants to Australia.
 
TWX [TotalFark]
4 days ago  
From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.
 
4 days ago  

TWX: From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.


They can't do that because dingoes will eat them.
 
4 days ago  

TWX: From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.


How exactly would that work? You'd always have new people and couldn't 100 percent isolate those with a 'get out of jail by..." card would have to start over...and who cooks, delivers food, how is it powered, what about water? Just putting up some chain link and herding people into a 'camp' in the desert isn't an answer.
Vaccines are the answer, and the fear is that a new variant from India might be making the rounds.
It's very reasonable to stop travel from India while more data can be collected.
 
4 days ago  

TWX: From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.


They could do that, but it really makes you think when not even that is an acceptable risk. Australia is not farking around with India's variants.
 
4 days ago  
Sure, they're being accused of racism. But the message Australia is trying to convey is "If you have covid, fark off." That's not a racist policy. Right now that's an extremely intelligent policy. Especially considering their own bad covid problem. They're trying to prevent an escalation of that problem. Selfish people are taking it upon themselves to spread this shiat whether they realize it or not, and they're farking things up for literally everybody else.
 
4 days ago  

optikeye: TWX: From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.

How exactly would that work? You'd always have new people and couldn't 100 percent isolate those with a 'get out of jail by..." card would have to start over...and who cooks, delivers food, how is it powered, what about water? Just putting up some chain link and herding people into a 'camp' in the desert isn't an answer.
Vaccines are the answer, and the fear is that a new variant from India might be making the rounds.
It's very reasonable to stop travel from India while more data can be collected.


But where does it end? How long can you conceivably keep your own citizens from returning to their home? It's not like the situation in India is going to be somehow resolved by the 15th, or probably ever given the numbers they're looking at.
 
4 days ago  

Miss5280: TWX: From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.

They can't do that because dingoes will eat them.


Dingos only eat babies
 
4 days ago  

TWX: From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.


Simple math: there are about 9,000 Affected Australians currently in India.   there are 25 Million Australians back home.   Which ones would YOU be willing to piss off to safeguard the other?
 
4 days ago  

TWX: From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.


https://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/off​s​hore-processing-facts/

They send refugee seekers to Papua New Guinia, and have done so since 2001 or so.

They don't have the space them selves.

That, or it's a good way to make it so that they don't get refugees. And this here seems like it's a good way to keep Indians in India.

/Not saying my nation is much better, as Denmark seems to have made a deal with Rwanda, which I believe will have an effect on the amount of people who flee to Denmark.
 
4 days ago  

optikeye: TWX: From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.

How exactly would that work? You'd always have new people and couldn't 100 percent isolate those with a 'get out of jail by..." card would have to start over...and who cooks, delivers food, how is it powered, what about water? Just putting up some chain link and herding people into a 'camp' in the desert isn't an answer.


You could house people by the 50 or 100 or airplane load. Just put 200 meters between the camps.

As for water: it isn't that hard to hook a fluid hauling truck up to a pump a hundred meters from the camp. No direct interactions needed.

As for power: solar panels. Just go to sleep when it is dark.

As for food: just give the people 2.5 weeks of rations each. Fill a pantry and they can cook on induction stoves.
 
4 days ago  
Science isnt racist.

The Indian government made their bed when it comes to COVID, now unfortunately their citizens must lie in it.
 
4 days ago  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Sure, they're being accused of racism. But the message Australia is trying to convey is "If you have covid, fark off." That's not a racist policy. Right now that's an extremely intelligent policy. Especially considering their own bad covid problem. They're trying to prevent an escalation of that problem. Selfish people are taking it upon themselves to spread this shiat whether they realize it or not, and they're farking things up for literally everybody else.


It's racist because it's a new policy that's only applied to (mostly Indian) citizens returning from India, and never from any other country where new variants emerged, including the USA, UK, Brazil, Sth Africa.

It's a blatant farking dogwhistle.
 
4 days ago  

ansius: USA, UK, Brazil, Sth Africa.


I dont remember piles of bodies being burned in the streets in those cases.
 
4 days ago  

Magorn: TWX: From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.

Simple math: there are about 9,000 Affected Australians currently in India.   there are 25 Million Australians back home.   Which ones would YOU be willing to piss off to safeguard the other?


Simple math: What are you chances of dying if you catch COVID in India  vs 5 years in an Australian prison
 
4 days ago  

ansius: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Sure, they're being accused of racism. But the message Australia is trying to convey is "If you have covid, fark off." That's not a racist policy. Right now that's an extremely intelligent policy. Especially considering their own bad covid problem. They're trying to prevent an escalation of that problem. Selfish people are taking it upon themselves to spread this shiat whether they realize it or not, and they're farking things up for literally everybody else.

It's racist because it's a new policy that's only applied to (mostly Indian) citizens returning from India, and never from any other country where new variants emerged, including the USA, UK, Brazil, Sth Africa.

It's a blatant farking dogwhistle.


I don't think so. India's covid problem is out of control. People are burying their family members in their own backyards because the Indian government deemed it necessary. The stacks of bodies are too high. They've lost control of the situation because they were inept about it. Australia is right to protect themselves.
 
4 days ago  

Opacity: Miss5280: TWX: From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.

They can't do that because dingoes will eat them.

Dingos only eat babies


Can you blame them? God damn delicious.
 
4 days ago  

TWX: From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.


This is what confuses me. They live in a country where pretty much everything, everywhere is trying to kill them. You'd think they'd be used to it. But nooo, they insist on fighting desperately against the inevitable. Just accept your fates already, FFS.

/kidding, kidding
//still find it amusing that they're worried about things killing them when they live in a country that is itself trying to kill them.
 
4 days ago  

dothemath: ansius: USA, UK, Brazil, Sth Africa.

I dont remember piles of bodies being burned in the streets in those cases.


Uk and US had fridges and freezers full to control the body backlog in some places.
 
4 days ago  

mofa: How is that an issue? All Australians are criminals anyway. Send those miscreants to Australia.


Australia can't keep accepting travelers from England.  That's where the criminals came from in thr first place.
 
4 days ago  
Why the fark are people traveling from a country that's barely holding its COVID shat together to a country that can't gather wood fast enough to cremate it's thousands (3400+ yesterday) of dead a day from MOAR NEW COVID?

This virus is spread by HUMANS and HUMAN CONTACT. Leave their dumb first world asses there.
 
4 days ago  

orundarkes: dothemath: ansius: USA, UK, Brazil, Sth Africa.

I dont remember piles of bodies being burned in the streets in those cases.

Uk and US had fridges and freezers full to control the body backlog in some places.


Yeah. Not burned in the street. Like I said.
 
4 days ago  
This is smart. Biden should get smart and do the same.
 
4 days ago  
"Right of return" to a country of which you are a citizen is generally considered a fundamental human right.  What if India were to decide to deport all the Australian citizens within its borders? They'd have nowhere to go.
 
4 days ago  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: They've lost control of the situation because they were inept about it.


Inept, no. Poor, yes. The average Indian in the countryside lives on less than $2.00 a day. They don't have close to the resources the United States, Canada and the West take for granted. The US in particular, wealthiest nation-state that existed in human history, still managed over 575K dead as of today.

It was only a matter of time before this plague trickled down to the poorer places in the world, and they don't have nearly enough of what's needed to deal with it.
 
4 days ago  
Something tells me wealthy citizens will find a way around this, as wealthy people usually do. Private yachts and planes, etc.

Blowing a yacht out of the water or a plane out of the sky would send a message, LOL, but ... I'm guessing that's not gonna happen.
 
4 days ago  

HotWingConspiracy: optikeye: TWX: From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.

How exactly would that work? You'd always have new people and couldn't 100 percent isolate those with a 'get out of jail by..." card would have to start over...and who cooks, delivers food, how is it powered, what about water? Just putting up some chain link and herding people into a 'camp' in the desert isn't an answer.
Vaccines are the answer, and the fear is that a new variant from India might be making the rounds.
It's very reasonable to stop travel from India while more data can be collected.

But where does it end? How long can you conceivably keep your own citizens from returning to their home? It's not like the situation in India is going to be somehow resolved by the 15th, or probably ever given the numbers they're looking at.


A stint in an Australian prison with good pandemic protections might be considered a win, especially if you can get out in a year on good behavior or appeal.
 
4 days ago  

dothemath: ansius: USA, UK, Brazil, Sth Africa.

I dont remember piles of bodies being burned in the streets in those cases.


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4 days ago  

thealgorerhythm: dothemath: ansius: USA, UK, Brazil, Sth Africa.

I dont remember piles of bodies being burned in the streets in those cases.

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I...don't think those are the same as bodies being burned on the street, though.
 
4 days ago  

AllCatsAreBeautiful: This is smart. Biden should get smart and do the same.


He should start with any Australians who are part of NewsCorp
 
4 days ago  
No similar measures were put in place at the height of the Covid-19 epidemics in the UK and the US.

The US and the UK weren't burning the bodies of the dead in the streets.


/Just because you don't like or don't agree with something, doesn't automatically make it racism.
 
TWX [TotalFark]
4 days ago  

thealgorerhythm: HotWingConspiracy: optikeye: TWX: From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.

How exactly would that work? You'd always have new people and couldn't 100 percent isolate those with a 'get out of jail by..." card would have to start over...and who cooks, delivers food, how is it powered, what about water? Just putting up some chain link and herding people into a 'camp' in the desert isn't an answer.
Vaccines are the answer, and the fear is that a new variant from India might be making the rounds.
It's very reasonable to stop travel from India while more data can be collected.

But where does it end? How long can you conceivably keep your own citizens from returning to their home? It's not like the situation in India is going to be somehow resolved by the 15th, or probably ever given the numbers they're looking at.

A stint in an Australian prison with good pandemic protections might be considered a win, especially if you can get out in a year on good behavior or appeal.


Yeah.  Depending on the treaties that Australia has signed, I could see the hardball attitude fading pretty quickly if both its own courts and international pressure call it out on denying its own citizens the right to return home, especially if its own citizens somehow manage to turn up at docks or airports papers in-hand.
 
4 days ago  

Kit Fister: thealgorerhythm: dothemath: ansius: USA, UK, Brazil, Sth Africa.

I dont remember piles of bodies being burned in the streets in those cases.

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You weren't paying attention

I...don't think those are the same as bodies being burned on the street, though.


It's only because we have a robust infrastructure and commercial sector for body disposal.

And we still broke it.

If people could have legally checked grandma out of the morgue parking lot of freezer trucks you might have seen a lot of home grown solutions that would make the gender reveal explosion problem look quaint.
 
4 days ago  

thealgorerhythm: Kit Fister: thealgorerhythm: dothemath: ansius: USA, UK, Brazil, Sth Africa.

I dont remember piles of bodies being burned in the streets in those cases.

[Fark user image 425x387]
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You weren't paying attention

I...don't think those are the same as bodies being burned on the street, though.

It's only because we have a robust infrastructure and commercial sector for body disposal.

And we still broke it.

If people could have legally checked grandma out of the morgue parking lot of freezer trucks you might have seen a lot of home grown solutions that would make the gender reveal explosion problem look quaint.


Not saying one way or the other, just pointing out that ramping up cremations at crematoriums doesn't exactly match burning bodies on the street, which is what the person you replied to had said.
 
4 days ago  

Kit Fister: thealgorerhythm: Kit Fister: thealgorerhythm: dothemath: ansius: USA, UK, Brazil, Sth Africa.

I dont remember piles of bodies being burned in the streets in those cases.

[Fark user image 425x387]
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You weren't paying attention

I...don't think those are the same as bodies being burned on the street, though.

It's only because we have a robust infrastructure and commercial sector for body disposal.

And we still broke it.

If people could have legally checked grandma out of the morgue parking lot of freezer trucks you might have seen a lot of home grown solutions that would make the gender reveal explosion problem look quaint.

Not saying one way or the other, just pointing out that ramping up cremations at crematoriums doesn't exactly match burning bodies on the street, which is what the person you replied to had said.


In India dead bodies are generally the responsibility of families. They don't have our body disposal infrastructure.

Imagine Los Angeles if everybody had to go to the beach and burn their own dead.
 
4 days ago  

TWX: thealgorerhythm: HotWingConspiracy: optikeye: TWX: From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.

How exactly would that work? You'd always have new people and couldn't 100 percent isolate those with a 'get out of jail by..." card would have to start over...and who cooks, delivers food, how is it powered, what about water? Just putting up some chain link and herding people into a 'camp' in the desert isn't an answer.
Vaccines are the answer, and the fear is that a new variant from India might be making the rounds.
It's very reasonable to stop travel from India while more data can be collected.

But where does it end? How long can you conceivably keep your own citizens from returning to their home? It's not like the situation in India is going to be somehow resolved by the 15th, or probably ever given the numbers they're looking at.

A stint in an Australian prison with good pandemic protections might be considered a win, especially if you can get out in a year on good behavior or appeal.

Yeah.  Depending on the treaties that Australia has signed, I could see the hardball attitude fading pretty quickly if both its own courts and international pressure call it out on denying its own citizens the right to return home, especially if its own citizens somehow manage to turn up at docks or airports papers in-hand.


I wouldn't be so sure.  Many of the applicable international laws were written in the 1940's and 1950's, when the 1918 influenza pandemic was still well within living memory.  As such, those laws grant broad permissions to governments to restrict people's movement during a public health crisis.
 
4 days ago  

thealgorerhythm: You weren't paying attention


No, I think you werent paying attention.

None of those are pictures of bodies being burned in the streets.
 
4 days ago  

rewind2846: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: They've lost control of the situation because they were inept about it.

Inept, no. Poor, yes. The average Indian in the countryside lives on less than $2.00 a day. They don't have close to the resources the United States, Canada and the West take for granted. The US in particular, wealthiest nation-state that existed in human history, still managed over 575K dead as of today.

It was only a matter of time before this plague trickled down to the poorer places in the world, and they don't have nearly enough of what's needed to deal with it.


You can defend it by saying "Look, the US didn't do any better" and point to the number of covid deaths to back that up. But you have to remember, and I'm sure that you do, that you have 50 states in the US that approached the response to covid much differently because we had a moron in charge of the country who was more concerned with his own ego and re-election campaign than having a cohesive approach to dealing with it. America's response was just as inept in the beginning, and for months after, because science was being ignored or swept under the rug. We had governors who didn't want to do shiat about it because it cut into the state's bottom line, like in Texas. We had a President who was literally beefing with the leading expert on infectious disease because he hates smart people, so don't pretend America was doing the right thing the whole time, because we were there, and we all know that's bullshiat.

India should have been vocal about their need for aid, and it seems they tried to keep the rest of the world in the dark about how much they were struggling with this. That is ineptitude.
 
4 days ago  
Australia, Japan, India:  "Shut down the border"   (NZ has been at the least restrictive level since mid March..masks for public transport but not everywhere else.  Japan is pretty much open other than 8pm closings)

Some people here "Hey, let's shut down our border too!"

Some Farkers:  "You heartless, Fascists"
 
4 days ago  

thealgorerhythm: Imagine Los Angeles if everybody had to go to the beach and burn their own dead.


I think I've seen that...didn't it end with Snake Plisskin and the Prez surfing out of LA?
 
4 days ago  

optikeye: couldn't 100 percent isolate those with a 'get out of jail by..." card


You can, by building what is essentially a prison. Cells are built with reasonable living space and amenities (television, internet, reading material, etc.). The cells have one door to enter that is locked and the quarantined people remain inside for the duration of 10-14 days. Meals are provided through a port in the door. People quarantined receive zero interaction with others so that they are fully quarantined, but exceptions can be made for medical emergencies.

At the end of quarantine, they get to exit and go home. The cells are thoroughly disinfected and turned over for new occupants.
 
4 days ago  

dothemath: ansius: USA, UK, Brazil, Sth Africa.

I dont remember piles of bodies being burned in the streets in those cases.


California had to relax the regulations on crematoriums so that all the bodies could be burned.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/18/us/cal​i​fornia-crematoriums-limit-suspension-c​oronavirus/index.html
 
4 days ago  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: India should have been vocal about their need for aid, and it seems they tried to keep the rest of the world in the dark about how much they were struggling with this.


They didn't have an appreciable number of cases, especially taking population into account, until much, much later than the west. As late as February of this year they had fewer than 10K active cases. Their first wave crested last September at fewer than 98K active cases. Remember this is out of over 1.3 BILLION people.

If that's inept, what excuse does the wealthiest nation on the planet have?
 
4 days ago  

Uncontrolled_Jibe: Some people here "Hey, let's shut down our border too!"

Some Farkers:  "You heartless, Fascists"


Trump: "Flights from China are banned."
Results: Claims of racism, xenophobia, and Nancy Pelosi was in Chinatown saying come on down and enjoy the chop suey special.

Biden: "Flights from India are banned."
Results: [crickets chirping]
 
4 days ago  

mrmopar5287: dothemath: ansius: USA, UK, Brazil, Sth Africa.

I dont remember piles of bodies being burned in the streets in those cases.

California had to relax the regulations on crematoriums so that all the bodies could be burned.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/18/us/cali​fornia-crematoriums-limit-suspension-c​oronavirus/index.html


I feel like a lot of you guys are extremely confused as to the difference between a crematorium and a street.
 
4 days ago  

ansius: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Sure, they're being accused of racism. But the message Australia is trying to convey is "If you have covid, fark off." That's not a racist policy. Right now that's an extremely intelligent policy. Especially considering their own bad covid problem. They're trying to prevent an escalation of that problem. Selfish people are taking it upon themselves to spread this shiat whether they realize it or not, and they're farking things up for literally everybody else.

It's racist because it's a new policy that's only applied to (mostly Indian) citizens returning from India, and never from any other country where new variants emerged, including the USA, UK, Brazil, Sth Africa.

It's a blatant farking dogwhistle.


From TFA:  only one calling racism is a "Conservative newspaper columnist", so, I'm assuming it's applied by country, and not by race.

Two different things, unless you're modern-conservative levels of disingenuous and/or stupid.
 
4 days ago  

optikeye: It's very reasonable to stop travel from India while more data can be collected.


But it was racist xenophobia when Trump enacted a travel ban on China, right?

Because COVID-19 didn't originate in China and if you say it did you're also a racist who needs to have their posts deleted, right mods?
 
4 days ago  

optikeye: TWX: From what little I've seen, Australia seems to be playing hardball when it comes to COVID-19.  It sounds like they've decided that even quarantine after repatriation is too dangerous, they don't want cases on their shores at all if it can be avoided.

I can't say I entirely blame them, but given how remote some parts of the country are, I'm a little surprised that they haven't constructed some kind of dispersed quarantine camp in central or western Australia where repatriated Aussies could spend a month or more in general isolation from the rest of the population.

How exactly would that work? You'd always have new people and couldn't 100 percent isolate those with a 'get out of jail by..." card would have to start over...and who cooks, delivers food, how is it powered, what about water? Just putting up some chain link and herding people into a 'camp' in the desert isn't an answer.
Vaccines are the answer, and the fear is that a new variant from India might be making the rounds.
It's very reasonable to stop travel from India while more data can be collected.


ANd in the meantime, what the hell are the people stuck there supposed to do?

They can't stay there and they can't come home.

And what about jobs that they can't work now?  They're all going to get fired and at worst, go broke to the point where they can't even AFFORD to come back.

This is all sorts of farked up.
 
4 days ago  

dittybopper: But it was racist xenophobia when Trump enacted a travel ban on China, right?


Trump getting beaten like a redheaded stepchild just will not ever stop stinging, huh?
 
4 days ago  

Uncontrolled_Jibe: Australia, Japan, India:  "Shut down the border"   (NZ has been at the least restrictive level since mid March..masks for public transport but not everywhere else.  Japan is pretty much open other than 8pm closings)

Some people here "Hey, let's shut down our border too!"

Some Farkers:  "You heartless, Fascists"


Preventing your own citizens from coming back and literally COMPLETELY RUINING THEIR LIVES is not acceptable.  What part of that is so hard to understand?

Has Australia come out and said 'We'll make sure you can't be fired, we'll make sure you can't be evicted, and we'll make sure to pay you all the back pay you missed and cover all lodging and meals for all the time stuck in India'?  I doubt that.  That's the only way this would be even remotely acceptable.
 
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