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(Yahoo)   Over 52 of the 400 people arrested so far in connection with the Jan 6 insurrection, more than 10% are current or retired military or law enforcement personnel. Sleep tight   (news.yahoo.com) divider line
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2021-04-23 10:41:20 AM  
Rest soundly this former military law enforcement person would love a few minutes alone with this group.
 
2021-04-23 11:02:56 AM  
A few televised summary executions will clear that up. These people are soft, flatulent cowards and will fold quickly.
 
2021-04-23 1:40:22 PM  
Every branch has known for decades that anti-government militia members have been enlisting just for the free training
 
2021-04-23 2:21:24 PM  
I'm seriously surprised that it's only that many.
 
2021-04-23 2:23:02 PM  

Notabunny: Every branch has known for decades that anti-government militia members have been enlisting just for the free training


Every police department has known for decades that white supremacists have been joining just for the free killing of black people.
 
2021-04-23 2:24:45 PM  
7.3% of the population is military. Haven't seen any quick figures on law enforcement, but it looks like Sunny's pearl-clutching statistic aligns with the national population.
 
2021-04-23 2:24:48 PM  

Tailspin Tommy: I'm seriously surprised that it's only that many.


Came to say this.

/wonder if some are turning a blind eye to some of their "brothers" and that's why it's not higher
 
2021-04-23 2:24:49 PM  

ImOscar: Notabunny: Every branch has known for decades that anti-government militia members have been enlisting just for the free training

Every police department has known encouraged for decades that white supremacists have been joining just for the free killing of black people.


FTFY
 
2021-04-23 2:25:16 PM  
that headline gave me cancer

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2021-04-23 2:25:19 PM  

Tailspin Tommy: I'm seriously surprised that it's only that many.


Yep, if you said that 10% of the US in general are ex military or ex law enforcement I'd believe you. Sounds low.
 
2021-04-23 2:25:48 PM  
This headline is this:

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2021-04-23 2:27:59 PM  
Just a few "bad apples". Give them a cute name like "The Bad Apple Dumpling Gang" and be done with it.

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2021-04-23 2:28:25 PM  

Notabunny: Every branch has known for decades that anti-government militia members have been enlisting just for the free training


Don't forget gang and cartel members as well. Fortunately we've mostly curbed the idiotic "jail or military" bullshiat at least.
 
2021-04-23 2:28:27 PM  

vudukungfu: Rest soundly this former military law enforcement person would love a few minutes alone with this group.


I'm sure there's more than a few of us vets 'round these parts who would join you in "helping" them understand why they are wrong.
 
2021-04-23 2:28:35 PM  
The USA has a serious institutional level issue with its law enforcement officers.
 
2021-04-23 2:29:55 PM  
Over 52 seems oddly specific.
 
2021-04-23 2:30:13 PM  
That actually seems remarkably low.
 
2021-04-23 2:31:56 PM  

whatshisname: Over 52 seems oddly specific.


THAT'S MORE THAN FIVE TENS!
 
2021-04-23 2:32:07 PM  
I hope that after farking around, the "current or former" military/law enforcement folks find out that, if they were current, they will be no longer and if they were former, or current, hopefully that pension and benie package will be as sound as a Trump "guarantee" or promise.
 
2021-04-23 2:32:12 PM  

Somacandra: A few televised summary executions will clear that up. These people are soft, flatulent cowards and will fold quickly.


Flatulence is beautiful... don't you disparage it!
 
2021-04-23 2:32:31 PM  
Eh, 'former military' usually translates out to "fatass former Guard reservist who shoots their mouth off." Ain't worried, those are a dime a dozen.
 
2021-04-23 2:32:44 PM  
Not to be pedantic, but what's the percentage among the whole population?  I, myself am not retired military, but I DO have a DD214.  There are a whole lot of former soldiers and LEOs out there.
 
2021-04-23 2:33:14 PM  
You mean a lot of these guys are also from a group that indiscriminately arrest and/kill minorities?

Color me shocked.
 
2021-04-23 2:33:43 PM  
It's scary how many of them antifa were apparently able to infiltrate law enforcement.
 
2021-04-23 2:34:01 PM  

fireclown: Not to be pedantic, but what's the percentage among the whole population?  I, myself am not retired military, but I DO have a DD214.  There are a whole lot of former soldiers and LEOs out there.


Teh googles say about 7%.
 
2021-04-23 2:34:25 PM  
Also, idiotic fear mongering headline aside last I checked something like 8% of Americans are veterans. So add 1% or so for cops and you have a number that's perfectly in line with the average.

But "law enforcement military scary people booo!" Hope you didn't piddle yourself before you managed to submit the headline.
 
2021-04-23 2:34:49 PM  
100% of the people who stopped the riot were current military and law enforcement personnel.
 
2021-04-23 2:35:17 PM  
Do cops rank above or below kiddie diddlers in prison hierarchy?
 
2021-04-23 2:35:52 PM  

Notabunny: Every branch has known for decades that anti-government militia members have been enlisting just for the free training


Classic insurgency technique, going back at least to the Irish Fenians enlisting with the Union Army in the Civil War.
 
2021-04-23 2:36:12 PM  
Those are some serious deep cover Antifa operatives
 
2021-04-23 2:36:14 PM  
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2021-04-23 2:36:43 PM  

Somacandra: A few televised summary executions will clear that up. These people are soft, flatulent cowards and will fold quickly.


Conviction means no pension?
 
2021-04-23 2:37:12 PM  

fireclown: Not to be pedantic, but what's the percentage among the whole population?  I, myself am not retired military, but I DO have a DD214.  There are a whole lot of former soldiers and LEOs out there.


7.3% for military according to https://fivethirtyeight.com/featur​es/w​hat-percentage-of-americans-have-serve​d-in-the-military/

Pew Research put it at "around 7%"
 
2021-04-23 2:37:40 PM  

CthulhuCalling: 7.3% of the population is military. Haven't seen any quick figures on law enforcement, but it looks like Sunny's pearl-clutching statistic aligns with the national population.


Actually, 52 out of 427 is 12%. So that's almost twice the 7% you mention.
 
2021-04-23 2:37:53 PM  
So just like the general population. Shocking.
 
2021-04-23 2:38:13 PM  

Headso: 100% of the people who stopped the riot were current military and law enforcement personnel.


No doubt they are being counted as being "involved with the riot".
 
2021-04-23 2:39:01 PM  
i'm not concerned until i learn they're of authoritative rank. the military will recruit some ..special people for their lower ranks

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2021-04-23 2:40:11 PM  

Notabunny: Every branch has known for decades that anti-government militia members have been enlisting just for the free training


This, and some of them are addicted to right-wing propaganda to the point where they imagine that they have facts while living in an inverted reality. They tried to end our democracy for Donald Freaking Trump because they're morons who only trust people who feed them bullshiat, and those people never told them that Donald Trump is a miserable failure who killed many Americans and a criminal that attacked our democracy. Instead they told the rubes that mad Donald had the Presidency stolen from him.
 
2021-04-23 2:40:28 PM  

Mikey1969: CthulhuCalling: 7.3% of the population is military. Haven't seen any quick figures on law enforcement, but it looks like Sunny's pearl-clutching statistic aligns with the national population.

Actually, 52 out of 427 is 12%. So that's almost twice the 7% you mention.


Subby is claiming 10%, so that's the number I'm working with. I didn't add in the percentage of population that is law enforcement.
 
2021-04-23 2:41:02 PM  

dracos31: fireclown: Not to be pedantic, but what's the percentage among the whole population?  I, myself am not retired military, but I DO have a DD214.  There are a whole lot of former soldiers and LEOs out there.

Teh googles say about 7%.


So, there were about as  as many military and police veterans as one would expect in a random sampling of americans, and this is a nothingburger.
 
2021-04-23 2:41:05 PM  

hammettman: I hope that after farking around, the "current or former" military/law enforcement folks find out that, if they were current, they will be no longer and if they were former, or current, hopefully that pension and benie package will be as sound as a Trump "guarantee" or promise.


Make it happen!
 
2021-04-23 2:41:34 PM  
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2021-04-23 2:42:29 PM  
When I was in the Canadian Army Reserves from 1986 to 1993 it was prohibited for members of the armed forces to be involved in any political activity. We could vote, but we weren't allowed to join a political party, publicly support any political candidate, or participate in political rallies or other functions.  Likewise you couldn't be a member of any organization deemed "subversive", which would certainly include such groups as the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, etc. The reasons for this are obvious: The military needs to be politically neutral. Our role was to serve as directed by elected officials, regardless of who was elected or our own personal beliefs. We served the nation, not ourselves. If you didn't like that you were welcome to quit. Several members of my unit tested this policy and found themselves discharged, and rightly so.

The U.S. would be wise to adopt the same policy.

Also, any criminal conviction meant you were out on your ass. If you can't obey the law you're neither capable nor deserving of the chance to serve.
 
2021-04-23 2:42:48 PM  

Headso: 100% of the people who stopped the riot were current military and law enforcement personnel.


And 0% were the failed President who only had to admit to these idiots that he lied to and used them to instantly end it with no loss of life. It was all about idiots and trash believing the big lie because having a trash President made them feel more at home.
 
2021-04-23 2:43:06 PM  

Mikey1969: CthulhuCalling: 7.3% of the population is military. Haven't seen any quick figures on law enforcement, but it looks like Sunny's pearl-clutching statistic aligns with the national population.

Actually, 52 out of 427 is 12%. So that's almost twice the 7% you mention.


Basically a rounding error given the sample size here.
 
2021-04-23 2:44:32 PM  
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2021-04-23 2:45:14 PM  

Tyrosine: When I was in the Canadian Army Reserves from 1986 to 1993 it was prohibited for members of the armed forces to be involved in any political activity. We could vote, but we weren't allowed to join a political party, publicly support any political candidate, or participate in political rallies or other functions.  Likewise you couldn't be a member of any organization deemed "subversive", which would certainly include such groups as the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, etc. The reasons for this are obvious: The military needs to be politically neutral. Our role was to serve as directed by elected officials, regardless of who was elected or our own personal beliefs. We served the nation, not ourselves. If you didn't like that you were welcome to quit. Several members of my unit tested this policy and found themselves discharged, and rightly so.

The U.S. would be wise to adopt the same policy.

Also, any criminal conviction meant you were out on your ass. If you can't obey the law you're neither capable nor deserving of the chance to serve.


The US has much of that.  No political activity while in uniform.

The people being charged are nearly all retired or honorably discharged.
 
2021-04-23 2:45:55 PM  
Kind of shows the depth of the problem when literally nobody is surprised.
 
2021-04-23 2:46:20 PM  

fireclown: dracos31: fireclown: Not to be pedantic, but what's the percentage among the whole population?  I, myself am not retired military, but I DO have a DD214.  There are a whole lot of former soldiers and LEOs out there.

Teh googles say about 7%.

So, there were about as  as many military and police veterans as one would expect in a random sampling of americans, and this is a nothingburger.


I would call it the opposite of a nothingburger, since that percentage SHOULD be ZERO. Vets shoudl farking know better than to go all treasonweasel.
 
2021-04-23 2:46:33 PM  

CthulhuCalling: Mikey1969: CthulhuCalling: 7.3% of the population is military. Haven't seen any quick figures on law enforcement, but it looks like Sunny's pearl-clutching statistic aligns with the national population.

Actually, 52 out of 427 is 12%. So that's almost twice the 7% you mention.

Subby is claiming 10%, so that's the number I'm working with. I didn't add in the percentage of population that is law enforcement.


I just did the math using the numbers in TFA, we all know how much people lie in their headlines. :-)
 
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