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(NBC Washington)   Virginia high school that had been named after the lead racist responsible for the traitor South getting its ass kicked during the Civil War is now named after an actual hero instead: John Lewis   (nbcwashington.com) divider line
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2021-04-23 9:45:06 AM  
"Lead racist" referring to Lee is going to trigger some people. But this is a good move and Lee would definitely approve. Part of his reconciliation strategy was not to glorify himself or other generals, but once he was dead it's like a bunch of people just did whatever they wanted. Funny how that worked...
 
2021-04-23 10:46:58 AM  
Hooray!
 
2021-04-23 10:50:06 AM  

NikolaiFarkoff: Part of his reconciliation strategy was not to glorify himself or other generals,


Well wasn't that mighty white of him, graciously not glorifying his life's work as a traitor and an American-killing terrorist.  On in the South can you be described as humble for not strutting around about how you killed US soldiers.
 
2021-04-23 10:50:48 AM  
 the lead racist responsible for the traitor South getting its ass kicked

It wasn't named after Jeff Davis, subby
 
2021-04-23 10:51:20 AM  

phalamir: NikolaiFarkoff: Part of his reconciliation strategy was not to glorify himself or other generals,

Well wasn't that mighty white of him, graciously not glorifying his life's work as a traitor and an American-killing terrorist.  On in the South can you be described as humble for not strutting around about how you killed US soldiers.


you should read a farking book or something.
 
2021-04-23 10:53:37 AM  
in journalism, this is called burying the Lee.
 
2021-04-23 10:55:26 AM  
Virginia is rising to the challenge.
Mostly.
 
2021-04-23 10:56:14 AM  
Ton's of stuff here in liberal Fairfax County is still named for General Lee. I live on Lee Highway, across from Lee Plaza, and not far from US Route 50, which is named Lee-Jackson Memorial Highway for this part of it. Up your game Fairfax County and change the name of all this stuff.
 
2021-04-23 10:59:20 AM  
At the end of the day, they're still in Virginia. You lose. XD
 
2021-04-23 10:59:40 AM  
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2021-04-23 11:01:26 AM  

phalamir: NikolaiFarkoff: Part of his reconciliation strategy was not to glorify himself or other generals,

Well wasn't that mighty white of him, graciously not glorifying his life's work as a traitor and an American-killing terrorist.  On in the South can you be described as humble for not strutting around about how you killed US soldiers.


I hate to think of the bullshiat you would spout about Washington for killing all those British solders while he was a British citizen.
 
2021-04-23 11:02:17 AM  

asciibaron: phalamir: NikolaiFarkoff: Part of his reconciliation strategy was not to glorify himself or other generals,

Well wasn't that mighty white of him, graciously not glorifying his life's work as a traitor and an American-killing terrorist.  On in the South can you be described as humble for not strutting around about how you killed US soldiers.

you should read a farking book or something.


There's a book that explains that Lee was really fighting for the Union?  IS that published by Klan Hood Press?
 
2021-04-23 11:09:39 AM  

phalamir: asciibaron: phalamir: NikolaiFarkoff: Part of his reconciliation strategy was not to glorify himself or other generals,

Well wasn't that mighty white of him, graciously not glorifying his life's work as a traitor and an American-killing terrorist.  On in the South can you be described as humble for not strutting around about how you killed US soldiers.

you should read a farking book or something.

There's a book that explains that Lee was really fighting for the Union?  IS that published by Klan Hood Press?


When Crazy-Eyes Bachman was running for president almost a decade ago, a reporter doing a typical fluff piece inquired into her reading recommendations.

One of them was this...I can't call it a hagiography or even historical fiction, it's so far into the realm of propaganda and misinformation.

While looking over Bachmann's State Senate campaign Web site, I stumbled upon a list of book recommendations. The third book on the list, which appeared just before the Declaration of Independence and George Washington's Farewell Address, is a 1997 biography of Robert E. Lee by J. Steven Wilkins.

A book on her "must read" list said the following:

Slavery, as it operated in the pervasively Christian society which was the old South, was not an adversarial relationship founded upon racial animosity. In fact, it bred on the whole, not contempt, but, over time, mutual respect. This produced a mutual esteem of the sort that always results when men give themselves to a common cause. The credit for this startling reality must go to the Christian faith. . . . The unity and companionship that existed between the races in the South prior to the war was the fruit of a common faith.

This is the most insane Confederate apologism I have ever come across in print.  And as a historian, I've seen some pretty batshiat stuff.  This beats most of the Fark booger-eaters by light years.
 
2021-04-23 11:18:51 AM  

Walker: Ton's of stuff here in liberal Fairfax County is still named for General Lee. I live on Lee Highway, across from Lee Plaza, and not far from US Route 50, which is named Lee-Jackson Memorial Highway for this part of it. Up your game Fairfax County and change the name of all this stuff.


I used to live in Falls Church, and I feel the same way.  I lived off of Lee Hwy.  Recently we moved an hour and change away, and I STILL live off of Lee Hwy.

Make it stop!
 
2021-04-23 11:19:25 AM  
phalamir:
There's a book that explains that Lee was really fighting for the Union?  IS that published by Klan Hood Press?

you clearly don't know a thing about Lee or how the United States operated in the mid 1800's.  there was no all powerful federal government.  seriously, you need to read some books about the US, about Lee, and about Lincoln for that matter.

revisionist history is a problem since it demands historical figures be judged on modern values and ideas.  that is ignorant and only serves those with no interest in understanding people and choices made in the past.
 
2021-04-23 11:28:18 AM  

NikolaiFarkoff: "Lead racist" referring to Lee is going to trigger some people. But this is a good move and Lee would definitely approve. Part of his reconciliation strategy was not to glorify himself or other generals, but once he was dead it's like a bunch of people just did whatever they wanted. Funny how that worked...


Lee was more of a generally racist person.
 
2021-04-23 11:29:16 AM  

asciibaron: phalamir:
There's a book that explains that Lee was really fighting for the Union?  IS that published by Klan Hood Press?

you clearly don't know a thing about Lee or how the United States operated in the mid 1800's.  there was no all powerful federal government.  seriously, you need to read some books about the US, about Lee, and about Lincoln for that matter.

revisionist history is a problem since it demands historical figures be judged on modern values and ideas.  that is ignorant and only serves those with no interest in understanding people and choices made in the past.


Lee was a slaver who committed treason and fought a war that was (in the words of the Confederates themselves) to ensure that the enslavement of black people could be continued and expanded. In the process he killed many thousands of loyal Americans.
 
2021-04-23 11:31:51 AM  

Walker: Ton's of stuff here in liberal Fairfax County is still named for General Lee. I live on Lee Highway, across from Lee Plaza, and not far from US Route 50, which is named Lee-Jackson Memorial Highway for this part of it. Up your game Fairfax County and change the name of all this stuff.


They are working on changing the name of Lee Hwy, I think Alexandria already did away with Jeff-Davis Hwy.
 
2021-04-23 11:33:29 AM  

stinkynuts: At the end of the day, they're still in Virginia. You lose. XD


Why would they lose in Northern VA, being in a county with one of the best school systems in the Country?
 
2021-04-23 11:36:53 AM  

punkwrestler: stinkynuts: At the end of the day, they're still in Virginia. You lose. XD

Why would they lose in Northern VA, being in a county with one of the best school systems in the Country?


And the same parts of the state have gotten populous enough to have a decent state government. Or at least not one actively trying to damage Northern Virginia.
 
2021-04-23 11:39:51 AM  

ViolentEastCoastCity: Walker: Ton's of stuff here in liberal Fairfax County is still named for General Lee. I live on Lee Highway, across from Lee Plaza, and not far from US Route 50, which is named Lee-Jackson Memorial Highway for this part of it. Up your game Fairfax County and change the name of all this stuff.

I used to live in Falls Church, and I feel the same way.  I lived off of Lee Hwy.  Recently we moved an hour and change away, and I STILL live off of Lee Hwy.

Make it stop!


At least you don't live off 66? So you moved to Manassas?
 
2021-04-23 11:40:07 AM  
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2021-04-23 11:41:32 AM  
dude was a parasite
 
2021-04-23 11:44:06 AM  

asciibaron: phalamir:
There's a book that explains that Lee was really fighting for the Union?  IS that published by Klan Hood Press?

you clearly don't know a thing about Lee or how the United States operated in the mid 1800's.  there was no all powerful federal government.  seriously, you need to read some books about the US, about Lee, and about Lincoln for that matter.

revisionist history is a problem since it demands historical figures be judged on modern values and ideas.  that is ignorant and only serves those with no interest in understanding people and choices made in the past.


Lee had no values, if we go by the times in question Lee was a disgrace he broke his oath to defend the republic. So if we judge him by those times he wasn't even a man anymore, he was an oath breaker and his word meant nothing.

That's not even considering how badly he treated his slaves.
 
2021-04-23 11:44:50 AM  

punkwrestler: ViolentEastCoastCity: Walker: Ton's of stuff here in liberal Fairfax County is still named for General Lee. I live on Lee Highway, across from Lee Plaza, and not far from US Route 50, which is named Lee-Jackson Memorial Highway for this part of it. Up your game Fairfax County and change the name of all this stuff.

I used to live in Falls Church, and I feel the same way.  I lived off of Lee Hwy.  Recently we moved an hour and change away, and I STILL live off of Lee Hwy.

Make it stop!

At least you don't live off 66? So you moved to Manassas?


On the border of Fauquier and Culpeper counties.
 
2021-04-23 11:46:23 AM  

dywed88: punkwrestler: stinkynuts: At the end of the day, they're still in Virginia. You lose. XD

Why would they lose in Northern VA, being in a county with one of the best school systems in the Country?

And the same parts of the state have gotten populous enough to have a decent state government. Or at least not one actively trying to damage Northern Virginia.


Actually, we have both right now and after redistricting we probably won't have to worry about it too much, since NOVA should be getting more representation.
 
2021-04-23 11:49:02 AM  
Lee and Nixon were both pardoned by Ford.
 
2021-04-23 11:50:31 AM  

ViolentEastCoastCity: punkwrestler: ViolentEastCoastCity: Walker: Ton's of stuff here in liberal Fairfax County is still named for General Lee. I live on Lee Highway, across from Lee Plaza, and not far from US Route 50, which is named Lee-Jackson Memorial Highway for this part of it. Up your game Fairfax County and change the name of all this stuff.

I used to live in Falls Church, and I feel the same way.  I lived off of Lee Hwy.  Recently we moved an hour and change away, and I STILL live off of Lee Hwy.

Make it stop!

At least you don't live off 66? So you moved to Manassas?

On the border of Fauquier and Culpeper counties.


You must be figuring non-rush hour travel, because there is no way you could make that trip in an hour during rush hour.
 
2021-04-23 11:51:37 AM  

dukeblue219: Lee and Nixon were both pardoned by Ford.


Why didn't he also pardon Benedict Arnold as well if he wanted to pardon traitors?
 
2021-04-23 11:54:56 AM  

punkwrestler: dukeblue219: Lee and Nixon were both pardoned by Ford.

Why didn't he also pardon Benedict Arnold as well if he wanted to pardon traitors?


Arnold was a British citizen, everyone fighting against the crown was a traitor, including Washington.
 
2021-04-23 11:58:32 AM  
dywed88:
Lee was a slaver who committed treason and fought a war that was (in the words of the Confederates themselves) to ensure that the enslavement of black people could be continued and expanded. In the process he killed many thousands of loyal Americans.

if you are conscripted into service by law, are you automatically a loyal American?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrollm​e​nt_Act
 
2021-04-23 12:07:20 PM  

NikolaiFarkoff: "Lead racist" referring to Lee is going to trigger some people. But this is a good move and Lee would definitely approve. Part of his reconciliation strategy was not to glorify himself or other generals, but once he was dead it's like a bunch of people just did whatever they wanted. Funny how that worked...


\Boss Hog accent on
Well if i do declare; that is some first rate BS, it surely is.
\Boss Hog accent off

if Lee was interested in reconciliation he would have forgone the Appomattox "campaign" for that matter he would have surrendered months earlier an stopped pretending that some miracle was going to happen in the Western Theater that would resolve his impossible situation.

he was a middling general with an undersized army and a vastly oversized ego.  his greatest asset was that he often faced truly inept opponents though that really only served to inflate his ego and set him up to make some unconsciously bad decisions later.

He wasn't a hero a brilliant tactician or general.  he constantly discounted the actual strength of the union army and northern industrial capacity while simultaneously over estimating the south's ability to respond.  he wasn't some kindly grandpa taking a principled stand against a tyrannical overlord. He was a bigot who cared nothing about his country or morality.

he was a traitor. He did next to nothing post war to calm the hyper-reactionary members of the rebellion that he spurred into existence. not dealing with him and his ilk properly is what allowed groups like the clan and daughters of the confederacy to get traction to begin with.  he was a cancer and should have been treated as such.
 
2021-04-23 12:09:02 PM  
I played a football game against that high school in 1968, the night before I took the SATs.  I'm pretty sure I got a concussion that game.
 
2021-04-23 12:24:22 PM  
 
2021-04-23 12:27:41 PM  

phalamir: NikolaiFarkoff: Part of his reconciliation strategy was not to glorify himself or other generals,

Well wasn't that mighty white of him, graciously not glorifying his life's work as a traitor and an American-killing terrorist.  On in the South can you be described as humble for not strutting around about how you killed US soldiers.


And as the military leader lost the war.

Seems that part would help with the humility.
 
2021-04-23 1:15:41 PM  

stinkynuts: At the end of the day, they're still in Virginia. You lose. XD


Better Virginia than Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, Arizona...

We got problems, and we're working on them.  Working on *fixing* them, that is, not working on *adding to them*.
 
2021-04-23 1:21:07 PM  

punkwrestler: ViolentEastCoastCity: punkwrestler: ViolentEastCoastCity: Walker: Ton's of stuff here in liberal Fairfax County is still named for General Lee. I live on Lee Highway, across from Lee Plaza, and not far from US Route 50, which is named Lee-Jackson Memorial Highway for this part of it. Up your game Fairfax County and change the name of all this stuff.

I used to live in Falls Church, and I feel the same way.  I lived off of Lee Hwy.  Recently we moved an hour and change away, and I STILL live off of Lee Hwy.

Make it stop!

At least you don't live off 66? So you moved to Manassas?

On the border of Fauquier and Culpeper counties.

You must be figuring non-rush hour travel, because there is no way you could make that trip in an hour during rush hour.


Mom has been reading detective books and political thrillers.  The other day I found her laughing her head off.  Asked her why.  She said "This writer has his main character driving from Manassas to downtown DC in fifteen minutes.  And it's the middle of the day, not 3 AM!"
 
2021-04-23 1:24:56 PM  
Nicholas D. Wolfwood:
Mom has been reading detective books and political thrillers.  The other day I found her laughing her head off.  Asked her why.  She said "This writer has his main character driving from Manassas to downtown DC in fifteen minutes.  And it's the middle of the day, not 3 AM!"

SLUG LINES!
 
2021-04-23 1:26:03 PM  

asciibaron: dywed88:
Lee was a slaver who committed treason and fought a war that was (in the words of the Confederates themselves) to ensure that the enslavement of black people could be continued and expanded. In the process he killed many thousands of loyal Americans.

if you are conscripted into service by law, are you automatically a loyal American?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrollme​nt_Act


Did they fought for their country rather than committing treason by joining the Confederates, yes they are loyal.

Not wanting to take up as to defend your country and betraying by taking up arms against it are two different things.
 
2021-04-23 1:32:04 PM  

asciibaron: dywed88:
Lee was a slaver who committed treason and fought a war that was (in the words of the Confederates themselves) to ensure that the enslavement of black people could be continued and expanded. In the process he killed many thousands of loyal Americans.

if you are conscripted into service by law, are you automatically a loyal American?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrollme​nt_Act


Lee wasn't conscripted, he was a volunteer long before the civil war.  He broke his oath when he joined other traitors to wage war against his country.
 
2021-04-23 1:42:20 PM  

asciibaron: dywed88:
Lee was a slaver who committed treason and fought a war that was (in the words of the Confederates themselves) to ensure that the enslavement of black people could be continued and expanded. In the process he killed many thousands of loyal Americans.

if you are conscripted into service by law, are you automatically a loyal American?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrollme​nt_Act


can't tell if you are trolling but he wasn't conscripted.  he was a west pointer (student an later superintendent). he was a career army officer.
 
2021-04-23 2:09:30 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: stinkynuts: At the end of the day, they're still in Virginia. You lose. XD

Better Virginia than Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, Arizona...

We got problems, and we're working on them.  Working on *fixing* them, that is, not working on *adding to them*.


Okay..
 
2021-04-23 2:36:43 PM  

asciibaron: punkwrestler: dukeblue219: Lee and Nixon were both pardoned by Ford.

Why didn't he also pardon Benedict Arnold as well if he wanted to pardon traitors?

Arnold was a British citizen, everyone fighting against the crown was a traitor, including Washington.


Since the US won that war Arnold was the traitor.
 
2021-04-23 4:40:15 PM  

punkwrestler: asciibaron: punkwrestler: dukeblue219: Lee and Nixon were both pardoned by Ford.

Why didn't he also pardon Benedict Arnold as well if he wanted to pardon traitors?

Arnold was a British citizen, everyone fighting against the crown was a traitor, including Washington.

Since the US won that war Arnold was the traitor.


Is a traitor to traitors really a traitor?

More treason can be justified (for example those who betrayed Nazi Germany as an easy example), but when it's explicitly to protect and expand the right to enslave black people it isn't justified.
 
2021-04-23 4:49:28 PM  

punkwrestler: ViolentEastCoastCity: punkwrestler: ViolentEastCoastCity: Walker: Ton's of stuff here in liberal Fairfax County is still named for General Lee. I live on Lee Highway, across from Lee Plaza, and not far from US Route 50, which is named Lee-Jackson Memorial Highway for this part of it. Up your game Fairfax County and change the name of all this stuff.

I used to live in Falls Church, and I feel the same way.  I lived off of Lee Hwy.  Recently we moved an hour and change away, and I STILL live off of Lee Hwy.

Make it stop!

At least you don't live off 66? So you moved to Manassas?

On the border of Fauquier and Culpeper counties.

You must be figuring non-rush hour travel, because there is no way you could make that trip in an hour during rush hour.


An hour and change in constantly flowing traffic.  It's been pretty decent because of all the work from home stuff happening.  On a normal day?  Yeah forget it.
 
2021-04-23 5:55:04 PM  

dywed88: punkwrestler: asciibaron: punkwrestler: dukeblue219: Lee and Nixon were both pardoned by Ford.

Why didn't he also pardon Benedict Arnold as well if he wanted to pardon traitors?

Arnold was a British citizen, everyone fighting against the crown was a traitor, including Washington.

Since the US won that war Arnold was the traitor.

Is a traitor to traitors really a traitor?

More treason can be justified (for example those who betrayed Nazi Germany as an easy example), but when it's explicitly to protect and expand the right to enslave black people it isn't justified.


Just remember Arnold's leg gave it's life for this country and is a war hero!

Also without Nazi scientist we wouldn't have a space program, thanks to operation Paperclip.
 
2021-04-23 10:47:17 PM  

punkwrestler: dywed88: punkwrestler: asciibaron: punkwrestler: dukeblue219: Lee and Nixon were both pardoned by Ford.

Why didn't he also pardon Benedict Arnold as well if he wanted to pardon traitors?

Arnold was a British citizen, everyone fighting against the crown was a traitor, including Washington.

Since the US won that war Arnold was the traitor.

Is a traitor to traitors really a traitor?

More treason can be justified (for example those who betrayed Nazi Germany as an easy example), but when it's explicitly to protect and expand the right to enslave black people it isn't justified.

Just remember Arnold's leg gave it's life for this country and is a war hero!

Also without Nazi scientist we wouldn't have a space program, thanks to operation Paperclip.


I also note that there are a couple monuments to Arnold's contributions to the US Revolution (and he did play a major role in winning the war), but the pointedly do not name him.
 
2021-04-24 12:42:17 AM  

dywed88: punkwrestler: dywed88: punkwrestler: asciibaron: punkwrestler: dukeblue219: Lee and Nixon were both pardoned by Ford.

Why didn't he also pardon Benedict Arnold as well if he wanted to pardon traitors?

Arnold was a British citizen, everyone fighting against the crown was a traitor, including Washington.

Since the US won that war Arnold was the traitor.

Is a traitor to traitors really a traitor?

More treason can be justified (for example those who betrayed Nazi Germany as an easy example), but when it's explicitly to protect and expand the right to enslave black people it isn't justified.

Just remember Arnold's leg gave it's life for this country and is a war hero!

Also without Nazi scientist we wouldn't have a space program, thanks to operation Paperclip.

I also note that there are a couple monuments to Arnold's contributions to the US Revolution (and he did play a major role in winning the war), but the pointedly do not name him.


Arnold was one of our best generals, possibly better than Washington.  He partly changed sides because he felt he had been betrayed and lied to by his new country multiple times.  I'm not excusing him.  He was still a traitor.  But he honestly thought he had justification.
 
2021-04-24 1:36:09 AM  

dywed88: punkwrestler: dywed88: punkwrestler: asciibaron: punkwrestler: dukeblue219: Lee and Nixon were both pardoned by Ford.

Why didn't he also pardon Benedict Arnold as well if he wanted to pardon traitors?

Arnold was a British citizen, everyone fighting against the crown was a traitor, including Washington.

Since the US won that war Arnold was the traitor.

Is a traitor to traitors really a traitor?

More treason can be justified (for example those who betrayed Nazi Germany as an easy example), but when it's explicitly to protect and expand the right to enslave black people it isn't justified.

Just remember Arnold's leg gave it's life for this country and is a war hero!

Also without Nazi scientist we wouldn't have a space program, thanks to operation Paperclip.

I also note that there are a couple monuments to Arnold's contributions to the US Revolution (and he did play a major role in winning the war), but the pointedly do not name him.


The famous Boot Memorial, that celebrated the great patriotic leg that helped the American troops take Saratoga, unfortunately that heroic leg was attached to a traitor!
I believe the boot would have cut itself off had it known that it was connected to a traitor!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_​M​onument
 
2021-04-24 1:39:58 AM  

OgreMagi: dywed88: punkwrestler: dywed88: punkwrestler: asciibaron: punkwrestler: dukeblue219: Lee and Nixon were both pardoned by Ford.

Why didn't he also pardon Benedict Arnold as well if he wanted to pardon traitors?

Arnold was a British citizen, everyone fighting against the crown was a traitor, including Washington.

Since the US won that war Arnold was the traitor.

Is a traitor to traitors really a traitor?

More treason can be justified (for example those who betrayed Nazi Germany as an easy example), but when it's explicitly to protect and expand the right to enslave black people it isn't justified.

Just remember Arnold's leg gave it's life for this country and is a war hero!

Also without Nazi scientist we wouldn't have a space program, thanks to operation Paperclip.

I also note that there are a couple monuments to Arnold's contributions to the US Revolution (and he did play a major role in winning the war), but the pointedly do not name him.

Arnold was one of our best generals, possibly better than Washington.  He partly changed sides because he felt he had been betrayed and lied to by his new country multiple times.  I'm not excusing him.  He was still a traitor.  But he honestly thought he had justification.


I would bet most of histories most horrible people thought they were doing good and had reasons for their actions. No one ever wants to believe they are the villain in a story...
 
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