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2021-04-23 1:47:02 PM  
I would gladly get it if it meant not having to go out twice to get vaccinated in public
 
2021-04-23 1:58:15 PM  
Is it bad to get more than one vaccine?

I have Pfizer, but wouldn't mind also getting J&J just for funsies.
 
2021-04-23 1:59:17 PM  
whew, my stonks were tanking!

/not really, i refer IPA's and now GIN!
 
2021-04-23 2:02:16 PM  
Doesn't matter, damage is already done.  Like the pro-plague crowd needed another reason to try to kill us all.
 
2021-04-23 2:04:40 PM  

stevenboof: Doesn't matter, damage is already done.  Like the pro-plague crowd needed another reason to try to kill us all.


Yup. It's all for naught now.

Get YOUR shots to hopefully keep you out of the ICU. And get used to masking in public areas.

Society has decided covid is here to stay.
 
2021-04-23 2:05:08 PM  
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2021-04-23 2:05:11 PM  
Bout effing time.  If theres a 0.001% chance of a clot I think I'd take those odds.
 
2021-04-23 2:05:11 PM  
That's too bad.  I read a variety of uninformed takes about the REAL reason they paused vaccine distribution.  I bet those people are disappointed that they were spreading misinformation.
 
2021-04-23 2:07:03 PM  

DuneClimber: Is it bad to get more than one vaccine?

I have Pfizer, but wouldn't mind also getting J&J just for funsies.


People are studying that. Canada's probably going to give Pfizer second doses to some people who started with AstraZeneca or Moderna (due to supply constraints).

If you've had two doses of Pfizer then you wouldn't get much additional benefit from J&J. You would be better off waiting until someone comes out with a new formula based on the recent variants of concern. On the other hand, someone who only got a single dose of J&J might see a significant benefit from a booster dose of anything else (including a second J&J). Stay tuned for future clinical trial updates.
 
2021-04-23 2:08:30 PM  

Ivo Shandor: DuneClimber: Is it bad to get more than one vaccine?

I have Pfizer, but wouldn't mind also getting J&J just for funsies.

People are studying that. Canada's probably going to give Pfizer second doses to some people who started with AstraZeneca or Moderna (due to supply constraints).

If you've had two doses of Pfizer then you wouldn't get much additional benefit from J&J. You would be better off waiting until someone comes out with a new formula based on the recent variants of concern. On the other hand, someone who only got a single dose of J&J might see a significant benefit from a booster dose of anything else (including a second J&J). Stay tuned for future clinical trial updates.


Ayup. Moderna and Pfizer are saying October-ish for variant boosters.
 
2021-04-23 2:09:37 PM  
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2021-04-23 2:10:34 PM  
People should put the very rare serious vaccine side effects into the broader context of the risks they face every day, like getting struck by lightening

Gack.
 
2021-04-23 2:10:55 PM  
I just got my first Pfizer shot, like a minute ago. Sitting in the waiting room now to make sure I don't start growing an extra limb or something.
 
2021-04-23 2:12:46 PM  

NINEv2: Bout effing time.  If theres a 0.001% chance of a clot I think I'd take those odds.


Youve got like 100 times more chances to die or get severely injured (or get shot if you're in the US) than getting a blood clot from the J&J vaccine.

1/10 000 chances of getting murdered in a mass shooting = ALL GOOD
3/100 chance of dying from COVID = ALL GOOD
1/100 000 000 chances of getting a blood clot from a vaccine = NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Murica!
 
2021-04-23 2:14:08 PM  
Meanwhile, a few places in the country have an oversupply of the other two. Yesterday, there was an article about West Virginia encouraging people to visit the state, get vaccinated, and waste their money at casinos. In Los Angeles this weekend, some sites are taking walk-ups without appointments (but only for locals).

I'm guessing there might be others by now.
 
2021-04-23 2:15:07 PM  
All they have to do is prefer to give that one to people who aren't already high risk for clots. Problem solved.
 
2021-04-23 2:16:27 PM  

DuneClimber: Is it bad to get more than one vaccine?

I have Pfizer, but wouldn't mind also getting J&J just for funsies.


gotta collect em' all!
 
2021-04-23 2:16:52 PM  
Stop trying to vaccinate the antivaxxers farks and start exporting the vaccines already.

I rather save 10 canadians or 10 mexicans or 10 indians than 10 000 antivaxxers.
 
2021-04-23 2:17:07 PM  

Ivo Shandor: DuneClimber: Is it bad to get more than one vaccine?

I have Pfizer, but wouldn't mind also getting J&J just for funsies.

People are studying that. Canada's probably going to give Pfizer second doses to some people who started with AstraZeneca or Moderna (due to supply constraints).

If you've had two doses of Pfizer then you wouldn't get much additional benefit from J&J. You would be better off waiting until someone comes out with a new formula based on the recent variants of concern. On the other hand, someone who only got a single dose of J&J might see a significant benefit from a booster dose of anything else (including a second J&J). Stay tuned for future clinical trial updates.


I did some bullsearch
(internet research)
thinking about 2nd breakfast vaccine style....

As with all things biochemistry related, the topic of mixing vaccines is amazingly complex.

"1+1" can = 2, 1, 3... -7.5?

Ultimately, only clinical trials can tell.

Anyone thinking of cocktails themselves into covid-proof bodies would do very well to realize you could actually end up making yourself less safe, or even causing self-inflicted harm.

(Vaccines aren't the protection. Your bodies reaction to them is. More than one vaccine is creating UNTESTED reactions in your body)
 
2021-04-23 2:19:05 PM  

DuneClimber: Is it bad to get more than one vaccine?

I have Pfizer, but wouldn't mind also getting J&J just for funsies.


I've wondered the same thing. I got J&J but wouldn't mind getting Pfizer or Moderna
 
2021-04-23 2:19:13 PM  
At this point I'm wondering if we shouldn't have just gone door-to-door and set up booths at parks and playgrounds.
 
2021-04-23 2:22:22 PM  

Dictatorial_Flair: All they have to do is prefer to give that one to people who aren't already high risk for clots. Problem solved.


It's not clotting in general. It's a specific rare condition which also involves low platelet levels. I don't think we have a way of knowing who's at enhanced risk for that yet.
 
2021-04-23 2:22:43 PM  

lolmao500: NINEv2: Bout effing time.  If theres a 0.001% chance of a clot I think I'd take those odds.

Youve got like 100 times more chances to die or get severely injured (or get shot if you're in the US) than getting a blood clot from the J&J vaccine.

1/10 000 chances of getting murdered in a mass shooting = ALL GOOD
3/100 chance of dying from COVID = ALL GOOD
1/100 000 000 chances of getting a blood clot from a vaccine = NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Murica!


Don't tell ME what to f*cking do

/hurr
 
2021-04-23 2:23:58 PM  

austerity101: At this point I'm wondering if we shouldn't have just gone door-to-door and set up booths at parks and playgrounds.


And welding the door shut if they refuse.
 
2021-04-23 2:24:07 PM  
I got the J&J a few days before they pulled it. So glad I don't have to deal with additional scheduling.
 
2021-04-23 2:27:11 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: I got the J&J a few days before they pulled it. So glad I don't have to deal with additional scheduling.


It is easier to do one visit than two just on numerical grounds, but when I got my first Pfizer shot, they scheduled my second right there--four weeks later, same day of the week, same time, same place. That's about as easy as it gets. If I needed a different time, I could get one no problem.
 
2021-04-23 2:27:57 PM  

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You know, i like to take my medical opinions from a person posting in my little pony memes......

So what are you trying to say? because i'm pretty sure the correct answer lays somewhere in the range of 180 degrees of it.
 
2021-04-23 2:28:25 PM  

MurphyMurphy: As with all things biochemistry related, the topic of mixing vaccines is amazingly complex.

"1+1" can = 2, 1, 3... -7.5?


All of the vaccines we're talking about so far are ones which tell our cells to make a version of the COVID spike protein. The specific sequence of that protein is very similar or identical for 3 of them, with AZ only lacking the changes to stabilize it in the "pre-fusion" shape. There could be weird interactions and we do need clinical trials to know for sure, but I would wager that a mix & match strategy will be fine.
 
2021-04-23 2:32:40 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: I got the J&J a few days before they pulled it. So glad I don't have to deal with additional scheduling.


Same here.  It's a big relief.
 
2021-04-23 2:34:15 PM  
So does this mean I'm not going to die from my JnJ shot?
 
2021-04-23 2:34:27 PM  
Note that there were eight cases out of seven million shots.  So, one in 875,000 shots had the problem.

I'll take those farking odds any day of the week.
 
2021-04-23 2:35:06 PM  

DuneClimber: Is it bad to get more than one vaccine?

I have Pfizer, but wouldn't mind also getting J&J just for funsies.


You will be able to smell people with COVID.  Could be handy.
 
2021-04-23 2:35:22 PM  

cyberspacedout: Meanwhile, a few places in the country have an oversupply of the other two. Yesterday, there was an article about West Virginia encouraging people to visit the state, get vaccinated, and waste their money at casinos. In Los Angeles this weekend, some sites are taking walk-ups without appointments (but only for locals).

I'm guessing there might be others by now.


Burlington County, NJ mega site is now doing walk-up access for appointments, and at most times there is availability. Almost every 15-minute period of every day has appointments available. It's open to all NJ residents, age 16+, and we've only been there for a week and I'm surprised there's that much availability at this point considering where we were a month ago.
 
2021-04-23 2:37:02 PM  

Ivo Shandor: MurphyMurphy: As with all things biochemistry related, the topic of mixing vaccines is amazingly complex.

"1+1" can = 2, 1, 3... -7.5?

All of the vaccines we're talking about so far are ones which tell our cells to make a version of the COVID spike protein. The specific sequence of that protein is very similar or identical for 3 of them, with AZ only lacking the changes to stabilize it in the "pre-fusion" shape. There could be weird interactions and we do need clinical trials to know for sure, but I would wager that a mix & match strategy will be fine.


Good to hear, plenty are considering it.

The more I know? The more I know that; I don't know.

So I err on the side of caution, pending expert analysts.
 
2021-04-23 2:39:08 PM  

Misch: cyberspacedout: Meanwhile, a few places in the country have an oversupply of the other two. Yesterday, there was an article about West Virginia encouraging people to visit the state, get vaccinated, and waste their money at casinos. In Los Angeles this weekend, some sites are taking walk-ups without appointments (but only for locals).

I'm guessing there might be others by now.

Burlington County, NJ mega site is now doing walk-up access for appointments, and at most times there is availability. Almost every 15-minute period of every day has appointments available. It's open to all NJ residents, age 16+, and we've only been there for a week and I'm surprised there's that much availability at this point considering where we were a month ago.


In most parts of the country, almost everybody intending to get vaccinated has already gotten at least their shot.

Now, the challenge is to convince the MAGA morons and other anti-vac idiots to do so.
 
2021-04-23 2:39:39 PM  
at least their first shot.

/no edit function at Fark
 
2021-04-23 2:41:27 PM  
i like to shove boxes of 50 pansy muzzles up muh butt jist to be sure
 
2021-04-23 2:44:19 PM  

harleyquinnical: I would gladly get it if it meant not having to go out twice to get vaccinated in public


Why not get vaccinated in private instead?
 
2021-04-23 2:46:50 PM  

Misch: cyberspacedout: Meanwhile, a few places in the country have an oversupply of the other two. Yesterday, there was an article about West Virginia encouraging people to visit the state, get vaccinated, and waste their money at casinos. In Los Angeles this weekend, some sites are taking walk-ups without appointments (but only for locals).

I'm guessing there might be others by now.

Burlington County, NJ mega site is now doing walk-up access for appointments, and at most times there is availability. Almost every 15-minute period of every day has appointments available. It's open to all NJ residents, age 16+, and we've only been there for a week and I'm surprised there's that much availability at this point considering where we were a month ago.


Cook County has opened up a couple of their south suburban sites to walk-ins, too.
 
2021-04-23 2:48:03 PM  
So when they pull out the Johnson, does it fart?
 
2021-04-23 2:58:45 PM  

lolmao500: Stop trying to vaccinate the antivaxxers farks and start exporting the vaccines already.

I rather save 10 canadians or 10 mexicans or 10 indians than 10 000 antivaxxers.


...or 10 Brazilians.

That's a lot.
 
2021-04-23 3:02:14 PM  
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2021-04-23 3:06:54 PM  

cyberspacedout: Meanwhile, a few places in the country have an oversupply of the other two. Yesterday, there was an article about West Virginia encouraging people to visit the state, get vaccinated, and waste their money at casinos. In Los Angeles this weekend, some sites are taking walk-ups without appointments (but only for locals).

I'm guessing there might be others by now.


Enough Vaccine For All Americans By April? Trump Says Yes, Experts Say Probably Not

Trump says every American can get a coronavirus vaccine by April, but health experts say that's not likely

Trump Now Claims 'Every American' Will Have Coronavirus Vaccine By April

Trump says, without evidence, every American will get coronavirus vaccine by April
 
2021-04-23 3:16:03 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Dictatorial_Flair: All they have to do is prefer to give that one to people who aren't already high risk for clots. Problem solved.

It's not clotting in general. It's a specific rare condition which also involves low platelet levels. I don't think we have a way of knowing who's at enhanced risk for that yet.


So something more like DIC? That's not great.
 
2021-04-23 3:16:57 PM  

Alien Robot: cyberspacedout: Meanwhile, a few places in the country have an oversupply of the other two. Yesterday, there was an article about West Virginia encouraging people to visit the state, get vaccinated, and waste their money at casinos. In Los Angeles this weekend, some sites are taking walk-ups without appointments (but only for locals).

I'm guessing there might be others by now.

Enough Vaccine For All Americans By April? Trump Says Yes, Experts Say Probably Not

Trump says every American can get a coronavirus vaccine by April, but health experts say that's not likely

Trump Now Claims 'Every American' Will Have Coronavirus Vaccine By April

Trump says, without evidence, every American will get coronavirus vaccine by April


Except that Biden took steps to actually make those goals attainable while Trump just kept making vague promises.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-s​h​ots/2021/03/13/976531488/defense-produ​ction-act-speeds-up-vaccine-production​

Besides, he doesn't deserve any credit until he gets his braindead followers to get the vaccine.

No matter how much you try to polish the turd that was his presidency.
 
2021-04-23 3:25:15 PM  

Alien Robot: cyberspacedout: Meanwhile, a few places in the country have an oversupply of the other two. Yesterday, there was an article about West Virginia encouraging people to visit the state, get vaccinated, and waste their money at casinos. In Los Angeles this weekend, some sites are taking walk-ups without appointments (but only for locals).

I'm guessing there might be others by now.

Enough Vaccine For All Americans By April? Trump Says Yes, Experts Say Probably Not

Trump says every American can get a coronavirus vaccine by April, but health experts say that's not likely

Trump Now Claims 'Every American' Will Have Coronavirus Vaccine By April

Trump says, without evidence, every American will get coronavirus vaccine by April


He said lots of things, but could never deliver. Thank goodness a real president got it done.
 
2021-04-23 3:26:27 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Alien Robot: cyberspacedout: Meanwhile, a few places in the country have an oversupply of the other two. Yesterday, there was an article about West Virginia encouraging people to visit the state, get vaccinated, and waste their money at casinos. In Los Angeles this weekend, some sites are taking walk-ups without appointments (but only for locals).

I'm guessing there might be others by now.

Enough Vaccine For All Americans By April? Trump Says Yes, Experts Say Probably Not

Trump says every American can get a coronavirus vaccine by April, but health experts say that's not likely

Trump Now Claims 'Every American' Will Have Coronavirus Vaccine By April

Trump says, without evidence, every American will get coronavirus vaccine by April

Except that Biden took steps to actually make those goals attainable while Trump just kept making vague promises.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sh​ots/2021/03/13/976531488/defense-produ​ction-act-speeds-up-vaccine-production

Besides, he doesn't deserve any credit until he gets his braindead followers to get the vaccine.

No matter how much you try to polish the turd that was his presidency.


From your link: "All told, the Trump administration used the Defense Production Act 18 times to aid vaccine development."

And: "Still, the Defense Production Act condensed a process that would normally take two or three years down to six or seven months, he says."

Biden hasn't been President for "six or seven months," so any use of the DPA by him hasn't realized any benefits yet. By June maybe, but any benefits right now from the DPA are due to prior actions by the Trump administration.
 
2021-04-23 3:29:29 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Alien Robot: cyberspacedout: Meanwhile, a few places in the country have an oversupply of the other two. Yesterday, there was an article about West Virginia encouraging people to visit the state, get vaccinated, and waste their money at casinos. In Los Angeles this weekend, some sites are taking walk-ups without appointments (but only for locals).

I'm guessing there might be others by now.

Enough Vaccine For All Americans By April? Trump Says Yes, Experts Say Probably Not

Trump says every American can get a coronavirus vaccine by April, but health experts say that's not likely

Trump Now Claims 'Every American' Will Have Coronavirus Vaccine By April

Trump says, without evidence, every American will get coronavirus vaccine by April

He said lots of things, but could never deliver. Thank goodness a real president got it done.


He absolutely delivered. On inauguration day over 900,000 people per day were already getting COVID vaccines.
 
2021-04-23 3:32:06 PM  

Alien Robot: HotWingConspiracy: Alien Robot: cyberspacedout: Meanwhile, a few places in the country have an oversupply of the other two. Yesterday, there was an article about West Virginia encouraging people to visit the state, get vaccinated, and waste their money at casinos. In Los Angeles this weekend, some sites are taking walk-ups without appointments (but only for locals).

I'm guessing there might be others by now.

Enough Vaccine For All Americans By April? Trump Says Yes, Experts Say Probably Not

Trump says every American can get a coronavirus vaccine by April, but health experts say that's not likely

Trump Now Claims 'Every American' Will Have Coronavirus Vaccine By April

Trump says, without evidence, every American will get coronavirus vaccine by April

He said lots of things, but could never deliver. Thank goodness a real president got it done.

He absolutely delivered. On inauguration day over 900,000 people per day were already getting COVID vaccines.


He totally failed and propagandized against getting the vaccine. It cut too hard against his "hoax" narrative.

He's gone, and now we're vaccinated. He gets no credit and never will.
 
2021-04-23 3:32:45 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Alien Robot: cyberspacedout: Meanwhile, a few places in the country have an oversupply of the other two. Yesterday, there was an article about West Virginia encouraging people to visit the state, get vaccinated, and waste their money at casinos. In Los Angeles this weekend, some sites are taking walk-ups without appointments (but only for locals).

I'm guessing there might be others by now.

Enough Vaccine For All Americans By April? Trump Says Yes, Experts Say Probably Not

Trump says every American can get a coronavirus vaccine by April, but health experts say that's not likely

Trump Now Claims 'Every American' Will Have Coronavirus Vaccine By April

Trump says, without evidence, every American will get coronavirus vaccine by April

Except that Biden took steps to actually make those goals attainable while Trump just kept making vague promises.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sh​ots/2021/03/13/976531488/defense-produ​ction-act-speeds-up-vaccine-production

Besides, he doesn't deserve any credit until he gets his braindead followers to get the vaccine.

No matter how much you try to polish the turd that was his presidency.


And:

FactChecking Biden's Vaccination Goal

President Joe Biden this week boasted on Twitter about his promise to administer 100 million vaccine doses in his first 100 days in office, "With the progress we're making I believe we'll not only reach that, we'll break it." But as some critics have noted, it was a pretty low bar to begin with.
On the day Biden was inaugurated, the U.S. administered nearly 1.5 million shots, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's COVID Data Tracker. On that day, the seven-day average for the previous week was about 966,000 shots a day. In other words, the U.S. was already virtually at the pace Biden set as his goal before he took any action as president.
By Biden's second day in office, the seven-day average was at the 1 million doses per day average needed to meet his 100-day goal.
 
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