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(BBC-US)   Are landlines going the way of dial-up?   (bbc.com) divider line
    More: Ironic, Landline, Telephone line, rare occasion, Telephone company, Telephony, Amateur radio, landline phones, last year  
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401 clicks; posted to STEM » on 22 Apr 2021 at 10:50 AM (13 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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TWX [TotalFark]
2021-04-22 10:35:56 AM  
We still have a landline, but it doesn't come from the local vestige of what had originally been Ma Bell.  To be pedantic it's a VOIP line from the ISP that their cablemodem hands-off via 6P4C jack on the side of the device, that I've plugged into the old bell-wire cabling in the house after disconnecting the old phone company demarc on the side of the house.

When Sept 11th happened, my wife was not able to reach anyone that had a cell phone, the cell networks failed while the traditional phone networks continued to function.

We're a young family with a preschooler and a grandmother living under one roof.  For the years when the kiddo is old enough to talk to her friends on the phone but isn't old enough to be unsupervised/unaccompanied, the landline will provide that medium, and can also serve as an emergency line for a babysitter or for Nana.

Our house has a finished basement and cell service down there isn't all that great.  Nana uses the old Western Electric phones, which are simply more comfortable to use anyway, so if she's on with her friends for an hour or more the landline phone is simply a better experience.

I'm mulling migrating to a 3rd party VOIP provider and going with an FXS device to connect to that provider, possibly looking at one that can not only do the landline number but might also integrate with the Google Voice numbers.  I'm basically just waiting until the market has stabilized enough that I can be sure that a chosen provider won't go-under taking the landline number with it once it's ported-over.

Long-term I expect that cell companies will themselves provide VOIP for landlines via Internet to their subscribers, so that one could have a "landline" that's comfortable to use in addition to the cell for on-the-go calls, but we'll see where the market goes with that.
 
2021-04-22 10:42:19 AM  
I'm sorry, dial-up and landlines are different?
 
2021-04-22 10:54:31 AM  
"You know what I miss? Having to wait by the phone instead of going wherever I wanted."  -no one
 
2021-04-22 10:54:52 AM  

PaulRB: I'm sorry, dial-up and landlines are different?


Yes.

A landline is the physical connection to POTS.

Dial-up is a description of using a modem over a landline.
 
2021-04-22 10:56:37 AM  
Oddly enough it is cheaper for us to have a Phone Line, Internet, and Cable TV than it is to just have Internet and Cable.  Every year the contract is up, we try to remove the Phone Line "to save money" and AT&T says "Whoa, Whoa, wait a minute don't do that, we'll reduce your rates again, plus we'll upgrade your service!"  So there appears to be something about having that Phone Line that helps their metrics.

Please don't ask me why we have Cable TV.  It's complicated.
 
2021-04-22 11:00:57 AM  
My parents still have a landline for reasons I can't understand anymore.  They pay $160/mo for a grandfathered plan they inherited from ma bell in the 80s.

But, they got so tired of telemarketing calls that they set the answering machine to have one of those anonymous messages (you have reached: fIVE-fiVE-fiVE-two-EIGHT-one-SiX), and set the number of rings to the bare minimum.  I found out a few months ago that they straight-up stopped checking the messages a while ago, because it's always robocalls anyway.  Besides they both have cell phones now.  And so do all of their friends.

But they keep paying $160/mo for this landline that they've set to go straight to an answering machine they don't check.  They can't get rid of it, because then how would anyone know how to reach them?
 
2021-04-22 11:07:56 AM  

PaulRB: I'm sorry, dial-up and landlines are different?


Yeah dummy, you never heard of a "can of dial-up" well you ain't never worked in telco have you!!!
 
2021-04-22 11:09:24 AM  
"If you have a traditional landline (non-broadband or VOIP) phone, keep at least one non-cordless receiver in your home because it will work even if you lose power. "

Before an Extreme Solar Event
 
2021-04-22 11:11:20 AM  
Where I live the mobile phone reception is so weak that you generally have to go outside to get a good enough signal to make a call. Also, landline-landline calls under an hour are free (line rental flat rate notwithstanding). So, yes, a fair few people around here still have one.
 
2021-04-22 11:14:31 AM  
Fax machines are still widely used and you think dial-up and landlines are going away?
 
2021-04-22 11:26:34 AM  
Would you say that again?
I didn't catch it, because the sound was all broken up.
 
2021-04-22 11:54:34 AM  

FrancoFile: PaulRB: I'm sorry, dial-up and landlines are different?

Yes.

A landline is the physical connection to POTS.

Dial-up is a description of using a modem over a landline.


You can also have "landlines" connected via your ISP. My folks have their phone service running through their cable modem. TFA doesn't seem to make a distinction between POTS and VOIP.
 
2021-04-22 12:00:03 PM  
Haven't had a home landline in many years. The last couple years it was hooked up, there were literally no wanted calls. All telemarketers or automated reminder calls.
 
TWX [TotalFark]
2021-04-22 12:52:06 PM  

Johnson: Oddly enough it is cheaper for us to have a Phone Line, Internet, and Cable TV than it is to just have Internet and Cable.  Every year the contract is up, we try to remove the Phone Line "to save money" and AT&T says "Whoa, Whoa, wait a minute don't do that, we'll reduce your rates again, plus we'll upgrade your service!"  So there appears to be something about having that Phone Line that helps their metrics.

Please don't ask me why we have Cable TV.  It's complicated.


I think that phone companies get federal subsidies for maintaining telephone lines, and it wouldn't surprise me if it's based on a flat fee per subscriber.
 
2021-04-22 1:43:02 PM  

TWX: We still have a landline, but it doesn't come from the local vestige of what had originally been Ma Bell. To be pedantic it's a VOIP line from the ISP that their cablemodem hands-off via 6P4C jack on the side of the device, that I've plugged into the old bell-wire cabling in the house after disconnecting the old phone company demarc on the side of the house.


Same here.  I got my telephone service through Cox, who liked to raise the price of my service every year, so I had to spend an hour on the phone with a CSR to get it reduced.  PITA.

What drove me to cut the service was when my older VoIP DOCSIS 3.0 modem died and I went to replace it with a newer DOCSIS 3.1 model.  That's when I discovered that Cox really didn't have anything on their supported devices list like that because they wanted you to lease one of their modem+router+AP units.  There was a nice 3.1 modem from Arris that I was eyeing that Comcast supported, but not Cox.  So I ditched my voice service, picked up a new modem without telephone support, and transferred my landline number to Google Voice.
 
2021-04-22 4:03:30 PM  
So, I initially read that as "land mines", and fully expected to read an article about some monstrous network of explosive units that wirelessly communicate and walk, roll, or fly from location to location based on an AI predictive model of where it would be most likely to find the next targets.

I'm fine with the landline, it's the only way anyone can buzz up from the main lobby.
 
2021-04-22 4:03:53 PM  
my fil still has one. we tried to switch it back to at&t from comcrap when we cut the cord, but at&t ONLY uses voip in the bay area, and in my fil area they only have shiatty 1.4mb dsl that cant handle voip. so we kept the comcrap phone and hes happy to pay $60 a month for it... sigh.
 
2021-04-22 4:07:02 PM  

Arkanaut: FrancoFile: PaulRB: I'm sorry, dial-up and landlines are different?

Yes.

A landline is the physical connection to POTS.

Dial-up is a description of using a modem over a landline.

You can also have "landlines" connected via your ISP. My folks have their phone service running through their cable modem. TFA doesn't seem to make a distinction between POTS and VOIP.



Eh, I wouldn't call anything that isn't traditional Ma Bell-equivalent POTS a "landline".
 
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