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(Guardian)   Imagine a country with an arrogant, nationalist leader who refuses to listen to science, prematurely declares victory over Covid, and is still holding massive campaign rallies, while a highly contagious variant has emerged   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2021-04-21 10:25:22 AM  
Why imagine when it seems like we have a couple to choose from?
 
2021-04-21 10:26:56 AM  

Diogenes: Why imagine when it seems like we have a couple to choose from?


I honestly thought the article was going to be about Brazil.
 
2021-04-21 10:32:12 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Diogenes: Why imagine when it seems like we have a couple to choose from?

I honestly thought the article was going to be about Brazil.


I was thinking them or us.  The "massive campaign rallies" thing was tough, though.  Trump's always in campaign mode in some form or fashion, but he hasn't done the rallies.
 
2021-04-21 11:08:26 AM  
I hope the US vaccinates enough people to avoid this fate.

/which is why I hope Trump does a PSA for vaccines
//a lot of his idiot MAGA minions won't get vaccinated if he doesn't
 
2021-04-21 11:54:53 AM  
The country has descended into a tragedy of unprecedented proportions. Almost 1.6 million cases have been registered in a week, bringing total cases to more than 15 million. In the space of just 12 days, the Covid positivity rate doubled to 17%, while in Delhi it hit 30%. Hospitals across the country have filled to capacity but this time it is predominately the young taking up the beds; in Delhi, 65% of cases are under 40 years old.


That.s not bad...its horrifying, and for that to be happening AFTER we have not one but four (6 if you count Russian and Chinese ones) vaccines?  I just don't understand how it's even possible for a government to fail that completely
 
2021-04-21 2:20:21 PM  
Funny how all these "populists" seem to have the same problem when a real crisis hits.

Very funny indeed.
 
2021-04-21 2:22:46 PM  

Diogenes: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Diogenes: Why imagine when it seems like we have a couple to choose from?

I honestly thought the article was going to be about Brazil.

I was thinking them or us.  The "massive campaign rallies" thing was tough, though.  Trump's always in campaign mode in some form or fashion, but he hasn't done the rallies.


or Florida
 
2021-04-21 2:23:40 PM  
I guess that explains why my Indian neighbors (who typically stay in the States for a short while annually) are still here.
 
2021-04-21 2:23:49 PM  
Infected people are still circulating around the world on airplane flights. We need to cancel air travel and keep it canceled until India is under control. Americans, Canadians, everyone, is going to encounter variants in airports, where they catch conencting flights, and in tourist destinations, and in business environments. The vaccines are not goign to do enough, if vaccinated people continue to travel, thereby paying for travel so that airlines and airports can keep their travel lines open. Every vaccinated person who buys an airline ticket is paying to keep Covid circulating. We must continue restrcitions and lockdowns for a few months.
 
2021-04-21 2:23:51 PM  
Modi will just blame Muslims probably
 
2021-04-21 2:24:24 PM  
That graph.... holy farking shiat.
 
2021-04-21 2:25:23 PM  
...done..what do I do with it? Cause I cannot fap to this.
 
2021-04-21 2:25:35 PM  

Magorn: The country has descended into a tragedy of unprecedented proportions. Almost 1.6 million cases have been registered in a week, bringing total cases to more than 15 million. In the space of just 12 days, the Covid positivity rate doubled to 17%, while in Delhi it hit 30%. Hospitals across the country have filled to capacity but this time it is predominately the young taking up the beds; in Delhi, 65% of cases are under 40 years old.


That.s not bad...its horrifying, and for that to be happening AFTER we have not one but four (6 if you count Russian and Chinese ones) vaccines?  I just don't understand how it's even possible for a government to fail that completely


its VERY crowded and they dont have good sanitation on a normal day. And they were lying about the #s the entire time.
 
2021-04-21 2:27:08 PM  
I saw a news crawl that said they had 22 people in a hospital die because their oxygen supply was disrupted.

I don't think hard right wing politics are going to survive this era.
 
2021-04-21 2:27:47 PM  
I'm curious as to why this is happening now, and not a year ago.

DRTFA
 
2021-04-21 2:28:22 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: I saw a news crawl that said they had 22 people in a hospital die because their oxygen supply was disrupted.

I don't think hard right wing politics are going to survive this era.


No, it's just going to get harder right.

Look at the GOP. They lost? Their response? Make it so they can't lose again.
 
2021-04-21 2:29:29 PM  

Magorn: The country has descended into a tragedy of unprecedented proportions. Almost 1.6 million cases have been registered in a week, bringing total cases to more than 15 million. In the space of just 12 days, the Covid positivity rate doubled to 17%, while in Delhi it hit 30%. Hospitals across the country have filled to capacity but this time it is predominately the young taking up the beds; in Delhi, 65% of cases are under 40 years old.


That.s not bad...its horrifying, and for that to be happening AFTER we have not one but four (6 if you count Russian and Chinese ones) vaccines?  I just don't understand how it's even possible for a government to fail that completely


It's why the idea of international travel is insane until this is under control.

Some of the new variants have the potential of completely undoing everything.
 
2021-04-21 2:29:52 PM  
For the sake of world wide public health, people like this need to be forcibly removed from office.
 
2021-04-21 2:30:58 PM  
If this results in wiping out all of those call centers where "Microsoft/System Mechanic Tech Support" scammers operate, all is forgiven, Covid-19.
 
2021-04-21 2:31:46 PM  
How did this happen?

The exact same way Michigan happened. All the precautions were wrong, we should just live life normally.
 
2021-04-21 2:35:34 PM  

kindms: Magorn: The country has descended into a tragedy of unprecedented proportions. Almost 1.6 million cases have been registered in a week, bringing total cases to more than 15 million. In the space of just 12 days, the Covid positivity rate doubled to 17%, while in Delhi it hit 30%. Hospitals across the country have filled to capacity but this time it is predominately the young taking up the beds; in Delhi, 65% of cases are under 40 years old.


That.s not bad...its horrifying, and for that to be happening AFTER we have not one but four (6 if you count Russian and Chinese ones) vaccines?  I just don't understand how it's even possible for a government to fail that completely

its VERY crowded and they dont have good sanitation on a normal day. And they were lying about the #s the entire time.


whynotboth

India doesn't have complete death grip on their media.  I think they were fudging numbers earlier AND it's still worse than it's ever been now.
 
2021-04-21 2:35:45 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: Infected people are still circulating around the world on airplane flights. We need to cancel air travel and keep it canceled until India is under control. Americans, Canadians, everyone, is going to encounter variants in airports, where they catch conencting flights, and in tourist destinations, and in business environments. The vaccines are not goign to do enough, if vaccinated people continue to travel, thereby paying for travel so that airlines and airports can keep their travel lines open. Every vaccinated person who buys an airline ticket is paying to keep Covid circulating. We must continue restrcitions and lockdowns for a few months.


Yeah. It looks like India just needs a couple of months to get this under control. Let's just lock back down and call it "Two Months to Slow the Spread"...

COVID-19 is now and will forever be endemic to the human race. It's never going away, all you can do is take the vaccine, encourage others to take it, and go on about your life.
 
2021-04-21 2:35:47 PM  

Magorn: I just don't understand how it's even possible for a government to fail that completely


Is it really failure if you don't even try?
 
2021-04-21 2:36:00 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: How did this happen?

The exact same way Michigan happened. All the precautions were wrong, we should just live life normally.


Michigan was doing great until the GOP legislature stepped in and all the antimaskers threw parties.
 
2021-04-21 2:38:17 PM  

Magorn: The country has descended into a tragedy of unprecedented proportions. Almost 1.6 million cases have been registered in a week, bringing total cases to more than 15 million. In the space of just 12 days, the Covid positivity rate doubled to 17%, while in Delhi it hit 30%. Hospitals across the country have filled to capacity but this time it is predominately the young taking up the beds; in Delhi, 65% of cases are under 40 years old.


That.s not bad...its horrifying, and for that to be happening AFTER we have not one but four (6 if you count Russian and Chinese ones) vaccines?  I just don't understand how it's even possible for a government to fail that completely


Easy as pie.

Pretend the problem is made up or greatly exaggerated to make you look bad.

Then when even you can't do that any more and keep a straight face, blame the people you blame for all your other cockups and general assholiness.
 
2021-04-21 2:38:21 PM  

gregario: For the sake of world wide public health, people like this need to be forcibly removed from office.


I totally agree with you. But, around here, Doug Ford planned ahead and, in his first year oin office, changed the laws so the government could not be sued for all kinds of harms. (For some reason, that didn't trigger any kind of response from the Governor General's office. The Queen is a shiatty figurehead). Anyhow, if you can think of a mechanism beyond the obvious rebellion (which si a non-starter thanks to Jan 6 in the US Capitol), I would love to hear it.

I imagine that India's governments also made similar changes to administrative laws, accountbility and oversight, during Modi's early years.
 
2021-04-21 2:38:49 PM  
You can argue til you're blue in the gills about whatever else humanity fails to do. Covid-19 shouldn't be one of them. This could have been an easy win for everybody. Instead it's an unflushed turd in the toilet.

Imagine indeed.

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2021-04-21 2:39:10 PM  
It's easy not to realise when in the Western vaccine bubble, but every day this week has been the worst globally in the pandemic so far.

And those massive infection pools are boiling up variants that could impact us all.
 
2021-04-21 2:40:39 PM  
Brazil?
*clicks*
dammit, world.
 
2021-04-21 2:41:14 PM  
Add the BRICS to the no fly list
 
2021-04-21 2:41:56 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Magorn: I just don't understand how it's even possible for a government to fail that completely

Is it really failure if you don't even try?


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2021-04-21 2:42:14 PM  

Geotpf: I hope the US vaccinates enough people to avoid this fate.

/which is why I hope Trump does a PSA for vaccines
//a lot of his idiot MAGA minions won't get vaccinated if he doesn't


The scary thing is to realize it could have been us, had Trump won last year and decided to state that the vaccine was worthless.

In all seriousness, I wouldn't have put it past him and his cadre of criminals.  Just so that they wouldn't need a lot of it and the vaccines they did get were handed out like prizes to all the wealthy and corporate types.
 
2021-04-21 2:42:37 PM  

theflatline: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: How did this happen?

The exact same way Michigan happened. All the precautions were wrong, we should just live life normally.

Michigan was doing great until the GOP legislature stepped in and all the antimaskers threw parties.


Exactly. It was find, they stopped any effort to limit spread, and it exploded exactly like the science said it would.

And remember: Deaths peak ~21 days after cases peak. We're nowhere near the peak of deaths per day, and they've already run out of resources.
 
2021-04-21 2:43:39 PM  
Is anybody else noticing a severe drop in the number of Indian call center scam calls? Usually, I get about six a day. Now, there are days without anybody trying to get my Social Security number or credit card.

Americans are trying to pick up the slack with the car warranty scam, but it's just not the same.
 
2021-04-21 2:43:42 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: I don't think hard right wing politics are going to survive this era.


Nothing can ever end hard right politics because it feeds on the the 35% of the human race who are biologically hardwired to unquestioningly support strongmen. These defective semi-humans will be the boot stomping on the future of the species until we either go extinct or someone goes all-in on eugenics to exterminate the authoritarian personality type.

It doesn't matter how many people conservatives kill, maim, or impoverish; they will always have 35% popular support.
 
2021-04-21 2:44:28 PM  

Gooch: Add the BRICS to the no fly list



There should be no non-medical or contained transport flights anywhere.

Casual holiday travel is going to result in the parts of the West currently on an outward path being plunged right back in (the AZ vaccine for example only has a 10%ish efficacy against the SA variant).
 
2021-04-21 2:44:30 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Diogenes: Why imagine when it seems like we have a couple to choose from?

I honestly thought the article was going to be about Brazil.


BoJo was my first thought because being a bloviating sack of ignorance has been his schtick for decades.  Then there was Duerte, and obviously Bolsonaro and Madura for being really vocal about it.

That's without getting into regional leaders, like mayors or governors.
 
2021-04-21 2:45:24 PM  

Bungles: It's easy not to realise when in the Western vaccine bubble, but every day this week has been the worst globally in the pandemic so far.

And those massive infection pools are boiling up variants that could impact us all.


Yeah, at this point the mutations are mutating further. The UK variant mutated into the TX variant. 

The student with the confirmed case showed mild flu-like symptoms for nearly a month, suggesting this new variant may cause a longer than normal infection in young adults. Although only one mild case has been confirmed, researchers are worried that the variant shows resistance to antibodies.

Thanks Texas.
 
2021-04-21 2:45:33 PM  
Oh, article is about Modi.

Yeah that makes sense too.
 
2021-04-21 2:47:12 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: theflatline: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: How did this happen?

The exact same way Michigan happened. All the precautions were wrong, we should just live life normally.

Michigan was doing great until the GOP legislature stepped in and all the antimaskers threw parties.

Exactly. It was find, they stopped any effort to limit spread, and it exploded exactly like the science said it would.

And remember: Deaths peak ~21 days after cases peak. We're nowhere near the peak of deaths per day, and they've already run out of resources.


I'm having a harder and harder time having empathy for this stuff. EVERYONE has the internet. Even places where they don't have running water, they have smart phones with internet access. More smartphones than electricity in parts of India (according to a friend who works for a public health NGO working on access to healthcare in India).

There is access to information. The knowledge of how Covid works and its transmission vectors is easily available. Even WITH the criminal levels of impressively unhelpful leadership, there is a level on which these people chose this for themselves with the huge rallies and religious festivals. It's been a year now. This outcome was known.
 
2021-04-21 2:51:06 PM  
Clearly Indians just aren't shoving the flashlights far enough up their asses.
 
2021-04-21 2:53:18 PM  

thehobbes: Thanks Texas.


"Anybody who wanders around the world saying, "Hell yes, I'm from Texas," deserves whatever happens to him."

- Hunter S Thompson
 
2021-04-21 2:56:18 PM  
Too much of this fascist shiat going on in the world.
 
2021-04-21 2:56:36 PM  

AurizenDarkstar: Geotpf: I hope the US vaccinates enough people to avoid this fate.

/which is why I hope Trump does a PSA for vaccines
//a lot of his idiot MAGA minions won't get vaccinated if he doesn't

The scary thing is to realize it could have been us, had Trump won last year and decided to state that the vaccine was worthless.

In all seriousness, I wouldn't have put it past him and his cadre of criminals.  Just so that they wouldn't need a lot of it and the vaccines they did get were handed out like prizes to all the wealthy and corporate types.


That's the same vaccine he was touting throughout its development, backing with government funds, pressuring the FDA to approve, and had going into a million arms a day by the end of his administration, right? You really think he was going to reverse course on that?
 
2021-04-21 2:56:38 PM  

Gooch: Add the BRICS to the no fly list


I remember when every finance hack was yammering about this hot new trend called BRICs.  If you bet on Brazil and Russia after their initial run-up, you've been burned.
 
2021-04-21 3:01:23 PM  

zetar: Is anybody else noticing a severe drop in the number of Indian call center scam calls? Usually, I get about six a day. Now, there are days without anybody trying to get my Social Security number or credit card.

Americans are trying to pick up the slack with the car warranty scam, but it's just not the same.


I've started to get a rash of calls for a new version.  The caller is male, has an American accent, and sounds actively angry.  The message is some variation of

"This is an important call regarding your case.  The very second you receive this call, you must leave your work aside and call us at <varying phone number> to discuss your case.  If you do not, we will be forced to take legal action against you."
 
2021-04-21 3:03:05 PM  

WalkingSedgwick: HotWingConspiracy: I don't think hard right wing politics are going to survive this era.

Nothing can ever end hard right politics because it feeds on the the 35% of the human race who are biologically hardwired to unquestioningly support strongmen. These defective semi-humans will be the boot stomping on the future of the species until we either go extinct or someone goes all-in on eugenics to exterminate the authoritarian personality type.

It doesn't matter how many people conservatives kill, maim, or impoverish; they will always have 35% popular support.


"or someone goes all-in on eugenics to exterminate the authoritarian personality type."

Hmm. I wonder what type of person would go all-in on eugenics? Probably not an authoritarian type... if only there were some example from history that could inform us on this topic. I'm gonna research that and get back to you.
 
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