Kittypie070: clams_casino: Which exactly, of Ma'Khia Bryant's rights were violated?

real pro-life of you dude

how about her inalienable right as an American to a jury trial for a possible charge of attempted assault?

Brosephus: rekabis: >In the video, the teen appears to attempt to stab two people with a knife before the officer fires his weapon.

If you, as a cop, come across someone actively stabbing someone else, you don't hesitate - you pretty well take immediate action to avoid having the person with the knife kill anyone else.

I understand you. I agree with your conclusion as well. The one thing I see you not being fair with is the beginning of your argument. There's a slight, but subtle change in your argument which has very profound differences and would change the reaction.

Appears to attempt to stab vs actively stabbing is two totally different perceptions and actions. The former is a subjective analysis and could be a situation where someone else could have a different view. The latter would have blood spillage and be unquestionable in any light.

One of the cases that changed my professional view on use of force was John Crawford III, which also happens to have occurred in Ohio. In his particular case, a 911 caller reported someone pointing a gun at people. The responding officer dropped Crawford as soon as he was encountered with no commands given and no time taken to assess the immediate situation.

My problem with that case was that the immediate area where someone is pointing a gun at people would be chaos. There would be people running, possibly screaming, and maybe hiding. When you look at the security video from Wal-Mart's system, people were casually shopping as though nothing is going on because it wasn't. Had the officer taken 2-3 extra seconds to pay attention to the surrounding environment, Crawford may very well be alive today.

As officers, we have a great responsibility to protect our community and all residents. That responsibility has to be treated with the utmost respect, and we have to be sure that our actions are the best actions that any other officer would take. We also have to treat people like we would want our family or loved ones treated. No matter how bad or evil we think someone is, they are still someone's family member or loved one.

This particular case will be deemed justified simply because the victim had a knife. People keep talking about her stabbing others, but I haven't co.e across any reports or videos showing paramedics treating anyone there for anything, including abrasions from hitting the concrete in the driveway. People all around are making assumptions about this without knowing the full story. ...

Brosephus: HideAndGoFarkYourself: What complete and utter horseshiat. This case will be justified BECAUSE IT IS. She was aggressively attempting to stab people. At the moment right before the shots she's got her arm back and is taking her second swipe at somebody with a knife. 

"Nobody got hit by the bullets that were shot, so nobody was shooting."

That's the shiat you're trying to say, but with a knife.

JFC.

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Brosephus: Brosephus: HideAndGoFarkYourself: What complete and utter horseshiat. This case will be justified BECAUSE IT IS. She was aggressively attempting to stab people. At the moment right before the shots she's got her arm back and is taking her second swipe at somebody with a knife. 

"Nobody got hit by the bullets that were shot, so nobody was shooting."

That's the shiat you're trying to say, but with a knife.

JFC.

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I was originally going to just let this go, but I'm not. If you're going to suggest what I'm trying to say, then just ask me. Don't try to put words in my mouth. You don't see me trying to put anything in yours, right?

You don't know me, and I don't know you. I have no idea of what you do for a living, but I do know my job damned well. I've been carrying a badge and gun since I graduated from the Federal Academy at Glynco, GA on Jan 3, 2008. Since then, I've worked in a law enforcement capacity in locations where guns are the last resort. They're so much of a last resort that if any of us have to pull a gun, then the fecal matter has truly hit the fan. Therefore, unlike most street cops, I'm neither badge nor gun heavy.

The presence of a knife in a fight is all that's necessary at that instant for deadly force to be applicable. It didn't matter what she was doing. She was fighting with a knife in her hand. THAT IS MY DAMNED POINT. Not that horse shiat you think I was saying.

As I told others earlier, I would not have used a gun in that situation, because we don't go to our guns. We tend to be hands on physical with people who want to fight. If necessary, we'll go to OC, baton, or the taser. I'd estimate that about 90% of our encounters at my work site are hands, and hands only. In addition to my current position, I've had the benefit of training with other federal agencies where hand-to-hand is the usual go to. I've had some edged weapon (knife) fighting and defens ...

Brosephus: HideAndGoFarkYourself: Brosephus: Brosephus: HideAndGoFarkYourself: What complete and utter horseshiat. This case will be justified BECAUSE IT IS. She was aggressively attempting to stab people. At the moment right before the shots she's got her arm back and is taking her second swipe at somebody with a knife. 

"Nobody got hit by the bullets that were shot, so nobody was shooting."

That's the shiat you're trying to say, but with a knife.

JFC.

User name checks out...  And it should continue to check out until it fails to check out.

I was originally going to just let this go, but I'm not. If you're going to suggest what I'm trying to say, then just ask me. Don't try to put words in my mouth. You don't see me trying to put anything in yours, right?

You don't know me, and I don't know you. I have no idea of what you do for a living, but I do know my job damned well. I've been carrying a badge and gun since I graduated from the Federal Academy at Glynco, GA on Jan 3, 2008. Since then, I've worked in a law enforcement capacity in locations where guns are the last resort. They're so much of a last resort that if any of us have to pull a gun, then the fecal matter has truly hit the fan. Therefore, unlike most street cops, I'm neither badge nor gun heavy.

The presence of a knife in a fight is all that's necessary at that instant for deadly force to be applicable. It didn't matter what she was doing. She was fighting with a knife in her hand. THAT IS MY DAMNED POINT. Not that horse shiat you think I was saying.

As I told others earlier, I would not have used a gun in that situation, because we don't go to our guns. We tend to be hands on physical with people who want to fight. If necessary, we'll go to OC, baton, or the taser. I'd estimate that about 90% of our encounters at my work site are hands, and hands only. In addition to my current position, I've had the benefit of training with other federal agencies where hand-to-hand is the usual go to. I've had some edged ...