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2021-04-20 3:35:49 PM  
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2021-04-20 3:36:47 PM  
Difficulty: must be IN North Dakota.
 
2021-04-20 3:40:58 PM  
So, I have a gun, and MAGAts make me feel threatened, so... hunting trip to ND?
 
2021-04-20 3:59:21 PM  

FlashHarry: So, I have a gun, and MAGAts make me feel threatened, so... hunting trip to ND?


Yep.  Show up with open carry.  Get in front of some protesting MAGAts.  Speak calmly into the rage:
I do not want you here. <draw>
I feel threatened by your presence. <cock>
If you do not stand down I will discharge my weapon in self-defense. <pull>
 
2021-04-20 4:04:11 PM  
Let's not go there.  'Tis a silly place.
 
2021-04-20 4:04:41 PM  
Does North Dakota wonder why they're a flyover state?
 
2021-04-20 4:04:47 PM  
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2021-04-20 4:05:09 PM  
They're just extending the protection afforded cops to all citizens.
 
2021-04-20 4:06:47 PM  
As opposed to places like NY that say if someone breaks into your house, you have to retreat as far as you are able, and only then may you defend yourself.  If someone comes up the stairs with an ax and you shoot them in the hallway, guess you're going to jail.
 
2021-04-20 4:06:49 PM  
That'll solve the mask hole problem.
 
2021-04-20 4:08:14 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: FlashHarry: So, I have a gun, and MAGAts make me feel threatened, so... hunting trip to ND?

Yep.  Show up with open carry.  Get in front of some protesting MAGAts.  Speak calmly into the rage:
I do not want you here. <draw>
I feel threatened by your presence. <cock>
If you do not stand down I will discharge my weapon in self-defense. <pull>


That sounds like a lot of effort. Wouldn't it be easier to accidentally unload your magazine into the crowd while you're cleaning it and then say "Oopsie"?
 
2021-04-20 4:08:59 PM  
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2021-04-20 4:09:06 PM  
'Murica tag fits.

I wish I could find it, but there was a webcomic clearly done in MS paint about a runner jogging by someone's lawn, and a single droplet of sweat from their brow lands on a blade of grass on that person's lawn, and Cletus immediately comes out and mows the runner down with a smile on his face.

That's America. We apparently love the Wild West "shootout at any time" adrenaline rush so much that we can't reconcile that with modern life.

American gun culture is cancer.
 
2021-04-20 4:09:45 PM  
I have to register to read a North Dakota news site?

LOLOL.....
 
2021-04-20 4:10:32 PM  
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2021-04-20 4:11:16 PM  

MythDragon: As opposed to places like NY that say if someone breaks into your house, you have to retreat as far as you are able, and only then may you defend yourself.  If someone comes up the stairs with an ax and you shoot them in the hallway, guess you're going to jail.


NY gun laws do not have a duty to retreat if someone comes into your house, but thanks for trying.
 
2021-04-20 4:12:24 PM  

MythDragon: As opposed to places like NY that say if someone breaks into your house, you have to retreat as far as you are able, and only then may you defend yourself.  If someone comes up the stairs with an ax and you shoot them in the hallway, guess you're going to jail.


Man it would be so cool for you if any of this was true.
 
2021-04-20 4:14:35 PM  
He, thinking I was about to kill him in self defence, tried to kill me in self defence.

So I killed him in self defence.
 
2021-04-20 4:14:48 PM  

grumpfuff: MythDragon: As opposed to places like NY that say if someone breaks into your house, you have to retreat as far as you are able, and only then may you defend yourself.  If someone comes up the stairs with an ax and you shoot them in the hallway, guess you're going to jail.

NY gun laws do not have a duty to retreat if someone comes into your house, but thanks for trying.


As a NY resident, they absolutely do, and it is taught in pistol permit class.
 
2021-04-20 4:14:56 PM  

dionysusaur: Difficulty: must be IN North Dakota.


So it only affects like what, 12 people?
 
2021-04-20 4:15:08 PM  
I feel threatened by that governor.  Good thing I don't live in that state.
 
2021-04-20 4:15:23 PM  

dionysusaur: Difficulty: must be IN North Dakota.


Don't worry. Pretty soon Texas will file a suit in the Supreme Court trying to intervene in murder cases in other states
 
2021-04-20 4:15:34 PM  

bluejeansonfire: 'Murica tag fits.

I wish I could find it, but there was a webcomic clearly done in MS paint about a runner jogging by someone's lawn, and a single droplet of sweat from their brow lands on a blade of grass on that person's lawn, and Cletus immediately comes out and mows the runner down with a smile on his face.

That's America. We apparently love the Wild West "shootout at any time" adrenaline rush so much that we can't reconcile that with modern life.
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American gun culture is cancer

FTFY.
 
2021-04-20 4:16:50 PM  

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Came for this. Leaving satisfied.
 
2021-04-20 4:17:25 PM  
Cops better start hiding since anyone with any common sense feels threatened by them.
 
2021-04-20 4:17:59 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: FlashHarry: So, I have a gun, and MAGAts make me feel threatened, so... hunting trip to ND?

Yep.  Show up with open carry.  Get in front of some protesting MAGAts.  Speak calmly into the rage:
I do not want you here. <draw>
I feel threatened by your presence. <cock>
If you do not stand down I will discharge my weapon in self-defense. <pull>


That's my purse! I don't know you!
 
2021-04-20 4:18:37 PM  

maxandgrinch: Does North Dakota wonder why they're a flyover state?


I have also used it as a drive-thru state.
 
2021-04-20 4:18:56 PM  
So if someone approaches my vehicle with his hand already on his openly carried pistol...
 
2021-04-20 4:22:36 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: grumpfuff: MythDragon: As opposed to places like NY that say if someone breaks into your house, you have to retreat as far as you are able, and only then may you defend yourself.  If someone comes up the stairs with an ax and you shoot them in the hallway, guess you're going to jail.

NY gun laws do not have a duty to retreat if someone comes into your house, but thanks for trying.

As a NY resident, they absolutely do, and it is taught in pistol permit class.


Well, the law says otherwise.

But retreat may not always be possible or required. If you are in your home, for example, there is no duty to retreat if an aggressor intrudes and threatens physical harm.

A duty to retreat exists pretty much anywhere else, but the ridiculous example he gave is not one of them.
 
2021-04-20 4:25:13 PM  

bluejeansonfire: 'Murica tag fits.

I wish I could find it, but there was a webcomic clearly done in MS paint about a runner jogging by someone's lawn, and a single droplet of sweat from their brow lands on a blade of grass on that person's lawn, and Cletus immediately comes out and mows the runner down with a smile on his face.

That's America. We apparently love the Wild West "shootout at any time" adrenaline rush so much that we can't reconcile that with modern life.

American gun culture is cancer.


Why do people not get that "armed guard" is a job that requires active attention and constant assessment of threats? A layperson with a gun at Walmart who isn't actively standing watch is more likely to be a safety liability than anything else. Meanwhile, the guy with a steel pipe or even a rock that you didn't see coming is still going to kill you just as dead.

The kinds of assaults where there's time to pull out your gun are the kind that can be avoided mostly with good manners and/or good cardio. Maybe less so with cardio if everyone has farking guns.

/nothing wrong with fighting sports or shooting sports. The hollywood hero complex kills people.
 
2021-04-20 4:25:18 PM  

maxandgrinch: Does North Dakota wonder why they're a flyover state?


No. We know.
 
2021-04-20 4:25:34 PM  
you can also murder a person while drunk driving, if you're busy reading your phone and Republican.
 
2021-04-20 4:27:45 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: grumpfuff: MythDragon: As opposed to places like NY that say if someone breaks into your house, you have to retreat as far as you are able, and only then may you defend yourself.  If someone comes up the stairs with an ax and you shoot them in the hallway, guess you're going to jail.

NY gun laws do not have a duty to retreat if someone comes into your house, but thanks for trying.

As a NY resident, they absolutely do, and it is taught in pistol permit class.


If you reasonably believe someone is in your house illegally, with the intent to commit a crime. Pew pew pew.

A person in possession or control of, or licensed or privileged to be in, a dwelling or an occupied building, who reasonably believes that another person is committing or attempting to commit a burglary of such dwelling or building, may use deadly physical force upon such other person when he or she reasonably believes such to be necessary to prevent or terminate the commission or attempted commission of such burglary.
 
2021-04-20 4:28:38 PM  
A dishonest headline? In MY Fark?
 
2021-04-20 4:28:43 PM  

MythDragon: As opposed to places like NY that say if someone breaks into your house, you have to retreat as far as you are able, and only then may you defend yourself.  If someone comes up the stairs with an ax and you shoot them in the hallway, guess you're going to jail.


Well that isn't the truth, but thanks for sharing your fantasy.
 
2021-04-20 4:31:41 PM  
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2021-04-20 4:33:07 PM  
Come on, Fark.  Trying to get people excited about the decisions of fictional governors in mythical states?
 
2021-04-20 4:34:15 PM  

Rozotorical: MythDragon: As opposed to places like NY that say if someone breaks into your house, you have to retreat as far as you are able, and only then may you defend yourself.  If someone comes up the stairs with an ax and you shoot them in the hallway, guess you're going to jail.

Well that isn't the truth, but thanks for sharing your fantasy.


New York City isn't Texas.  NYC doesn't believe the 2nd amendment applies to them and make it near impossible to own a gun.  And if you ever use your gun to defend yourself in your own home, you are in for a world of legal hurt.  They are even worse than California.
 
2021-04-20 4:37:33 PM  

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I personally know dozens, if not hundreds of people who would get a raging hard-on over that pic. That's literally why they are there.
 
2021-04-20 4:40:18 PM  

OgreMagi: Rozotorical: MythDragon: As opposed to places like NY that say if someone breaks into your house, you have to retreat as far as you are able, and only then may you defend yourself.  If someone comes up the stairs with an ax and you shoot them in the hallway, guess you're going to jail.

Well that isn't the truth, but thanks for sharing your fantasy.

New York City isn't Texas.  NYC doesn't believe the 2nd amendment applies to them and make it near impossible to own a gun.  And if you ever use your gun to defend yourself in your own home, you are in for a world of legal hurt.  They are even worse than California.


On the flip side, with the amount of anger issues seen in a typical NYC resident, do you really believe it would be a good idea to start arming them willi-nillie?
 
2021-04-20 4:40:52 PM  
Pfft. In South Dakota you just have to say you thought they were a deer. Even if they're wearing glasses.
 
2021-04-20 4:41:07 PM  

g.fro: dionysusaur: Difficulty: must be IN North Dakota.

So it only affects like what, 12 people?


Correct. The black ones.
 
2021-04-20 4:42:23 PM  
Well it's not like you have to.
You just can if you want.
 
2021-04-20 4:42:48 PM  

Badmoodman: I have to register to read a North Dakota news site?

LOLOL.....


My reaction as well.
Subby must live in the area.
 
2021-04-20 4:43:28 PM  
Links that require you to register/subscribe should not be allowed here.
www.valleynewslive.com: ND Gov. signs bill modifying 'stand your ground' law

/Subby sucks
 
2021-04-20 4:44:18 PM  

MythDragon: As opposed to places like NY that say if someone breaks into your house, you have to retreat as far as you are able, and only then may you defend yourself.  If someone comes up the stairs with an ax and you shoot them in the hallway, guess you're going to jail.


And what's the law in the actual New York?
 
2021-04-20 4:46:49 PM  

MythDragon: As opposed to places like NY that say if someone breaks into your house, you have to retreat as far as you are able, and only then may you defend yourself.  If someone comes up the stairs with an ax and you shoot them in the hallway, guess you're going to jail.


If you didn't have lies, you wouldn't have anything to say.
 
2021-04-20 4:47:42 PM  

GrymRpr: Links that require you to register/subscribe should not be allowed here.
www.valleynewslive.com: ND Gov. signs bill modifying 'stand your ground' law

/Subby sucks

I just hit F12, inspected, deleted the overlay and read the <p></p>.
 
2021-04-20 4:54:31 PM  
Lot of Farkers here worried that a woman, disabled individual, or senior citizen might have an option other than futilely trying to flee from them.
 
2021-04-20 4:59:08 PM  

bluejeansonfire: I wish I could find it, but there was a webcomic clearly done in MS paint about a runner jogging by someone's lawn, and a single droplet of sweat from their brow lands on a blade of grass on that person's lawn, and Cletus immediately comes out and mows the runner down with a smile on his face.

That's America. We apparently love the Wild West "shootout at any time" adrenaline rush so much that we can't reconcile that with modern life.


Given that the 'shootout at any time' part of Wild West lore is a myth created by fiction, American gun culture is almost entirely a product of Americans being unable to tell the difference between fantasy and reality.

Wild West towns had gun control (e.g. by requiring visitors to hand over their guns to the sheriff for safe keeping while in-town) precisely so they didn't have to deal with shootouts on a regular basis. Despite living much harsher lives than contemporary Americans, the people of the Wild West era had a much better idea of how to manage the risk of gun violence than contemporary Firearm-Americans do.
 
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