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2021-04-20 4:43:02 PM  
Meanwhile, Oklahoma, home of the USA Softball Hall of Fame and the NCAA Women's College World Series, has passed their transgender sports ban and sent it to the Governor.

Governor Stitt is all about being "pro-business". I wonder if he will veto it because of the NCAA threat and loss of the WCWS (and early round basketball playoff opportunities for Tulsa and OKC) will hurt businesses.

/Narrator: He won't.
 
2021-04-20 4:53:28 PM  

stilted: Meanwhile, Oklahoma, home of the USA Softball Hall of Fame and the NCAA Women's College World Series, has passed their transgender sports ban and sent it to the Governor.

Governor Stitt is all about being "pro-business". I wonder if he will veto it because of the NCAA threat and loss of the WCWS (and early round basketball playoff opportunities for Tulsa and OKC) will hurt businesses.

/Narrator: He won't.


Let the Cornhuskers get thrown out of the NCAA and see what happens
 
2021-04-20 5:08:49 PM  
These sports bans are not just about sports anymore than the bathroom bills were just about bathrooms.
They are a coordinated attack on trans people's ability to exist in public *at all*

There have been over 117 ant-trans bills proposed across 30 states this year so far (that was last week's count by the HRC), and it's the worst year on record already. On top of these sports bills, we're seeing:

- Several states wanting to prohibit trans affirming care for young people Up to age 21 in NC.
- Some of those states making supporting a trans child fall under child abuse statues (TX, OK, a new one in AR)
- IN and TN looking at new bathroom bills
- AR looking at encouraging teachers to deadname and misgender people from kindergarten through college
AR and others looking to add broad exemptions to allow health care providers to not treat LGBTQ+ people and others for anything not immediately life threatening on moral or religious grounds.
- Making it harder or impossible to update identity documents
- Forbidding state services from paying for tans care all the way down to therapy and blood level monitoring
- Allowing insurance companies to refuse to cover trans care even though that violates provisions of the ACA
- Forbidding LGBTQ issues from being discussed in schools

So the message from the GOP has been "We support your right to live as you choose, but no medical care, updated ID, sports participation, bathroom access, insurance, public accommodations, or any social support at all. Other than all *that* we support you." Well, and we may arrest your parents and remove you from them and chuck you into the foster system if you're under 18. Enjoy!

Please, I beg you, don't fall for the "this is about fairness in sports" dance. It's so much more than that, and this is just a convenient wedge.
 
2021-04-20 5:58:54 PM  

Eclectic: These sports bans are not just about sports anymore than the bathroom bills were just about bathrooms.
They are a coordinated attack on trans people's ability to exist in public *at all*

There have been over 117 ant-trans bills proposed across 30 states this year so far (that was last week's count by the HRC), and it's the worst year on record already. On top of these sports bills, we're seeing:

- Several states wanting to prohibit trans affirming care for young people Up to age 21 in NC.
- Some of those states making supporting a trans child fall under child abuse statues (TX, OK, a new one in AR)
- IN and TN looking at new bathroom bills
- AR looking at encouraging teachers to deadname and misgender people from kindergarten through college
AR and others looking to add broad exemptions to allow health care providers to not treat LGBTQ+ people and others for anything not immediately life threatening on moral or religious grounds.
- Making it harder or impossible to update identity documents
- Forbidding state services from paying for tans care all the way down to therapy and blood level monitoring
- Allowing insurance companies to refuse to cover trans care even though that violates provisions of the ACA
- Forbidding LGBTQ issues from being discussed in schools

So the message from the GOP has been "We support your right to live as you choose, but no medical care, updated ID, sports participation, bathroom access, insurance, public accommodations, or any social support at all. Other than all *that* we support you." Well, and we may arrest your parents and remove you from them and chuck you into the foster system if you're under 18. Enjoy!

Please, I beg you, don't fall for the "this is about fairness in sports" dance. It's so much more than that, and this is just a convenient wedge.


The transgender care portion in particular is trying to force the issue to the supreme court so they can get a ruling it's not a medical care issue, but a "let states decide" issue along the lines of Marijuana. They legitimately want to make hormone care for transgender people of all ages illegal, not just inaccessable. They tried inaccessibility before, and it still happened.

This is essentially a form of genocide against transgender people - if they can't get us into the camps, they'll just make life so unbearable we off ourselves.

Goddamnit, I miss the days when I wasn't the political target dujure.
 
2021-04-20 5:58:57 PM  

Eclectic: These sports bans are not just about sports anymore than the bathroom bills were just about bathrooms.
They are a coordinated attack on trans people's ability to exist in public *at all*

There have been over 117 ant-trans bills proposed across 30 states this year so far (that was last week's count by the HRC), and it's the worst year on record already. On top of these sports bills, we're seeing:

- Several states wanting to prohibit trans affirming care for young people Up to age 21 in NC.
- Some of those states making supporting a trans child fall under child abuse statues (TX, OK, a new one in AR)
- IN and TN looking at new bathroom bills
- AR looking at encouraging teachers to deadname and misgender people from kindergarten through college
AR and others looking to add broad exemptions to allow health care providers to not treat LGBTQ+ people and others for anything not immediately life threatening on moral or religious grounds.
- Making it harder or impossible to update identity documents
- Forbidding state services from paying for tans care all the way down to therapy and blood level monitoring
- Allowing insurance companies to refuse to cover trans care even though that violates provisions of the ACA
- Forbidding LGBTQ issues from being discussed in schools

So the message from the GOP has been "We support your right to live as you choose, but no medical care, updated ID, sports participation, bathroom access, insurance, public accommodations, or any social support at all. Other than all *that* we support you." Well, and we may arrest your parents and remove you from them and chuck you into the foster system if you're under 18. Enjoy!

Please, I beg you, don't fall for the "this is about fairness in sports" dance. It's so much more than that, and this is just a convenient wedge.


Any time a conservative talks about freedom they are really talking about servitude.
 
2021-04-20 6:00:38 PM  
The Florida House approved its transgender sports bill, dubbed the Fairness in Women's Sports Act, on April 14 by a 77-40 mostly party-line vote, with all but one Democrat opposing.

Only 41 Democratic seats out of (at least) 117, in a state that Trump took with 51.22% of the vote, a state that has 5.3 million registered Democrats and 5.17 registered Republicans? Sounds like some weapons-grade redistricting right there.
 
2021-04-20 6:01:25 PM  

Eclectic: So the message from the GOP has been "We support your right to live as you choose, but no medical care, updated ID, sports participation, bathroom access, insurance, public accommodations, or any social support at all. Other than all *that* we support you." Well, and we may arrest your parents and remove you from them and chuck you into the foster system if you're under 18. Enjoy!


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To be fair, Republicans aren't really any better when it comes to CIS kids, either.
 
2021-04-20 6:02:34 PM  
Good.  If they can't do the right thing for the right reasons, I'm fine with the right thing happening for other reasons.
 
2021-04-20 6:14:13 PM  
I wonder what it's like to have an overwhelming urge to hate people I don't even know.

They can't (publicly) hate African Americans anymore, they haven't been able to chase the Irish out of town for so long they forgot they even hated them. Gays are slowly  becoming tolerable, but trans people seem to be fair game.  What will they do when that's taken from them?  I guess we better discover life on other planets son so they'll have someone to heap scorn upon.
 
2021-04-20 6:17:17 PM  

Great_Milenko: I wonder what it's like to have an overwhelming urge to hate people I don't even know.

They can't (publicly) hate African Americans anymore, they haven't been able to chase the Irish out of town for so long they forgot they even hated them. Gays are slowly  becoming tolerable, but trans people seem to be fair game.  What will they do when that's taken from them?  I guess we better discover life on other planets son so they'll have someone to heap scorn upon.


It'll be the intellectuals next - Arts, History, Philosophy, 'Soft' Sciences.  If it doesn't have a path to profit, it will be strangled.
 
2021-04-20 6:20:05 PM  

Great_Milenko: I wonder what it's like to have an overwhelming urge to hate people I don't even know.

They can't (publicly) hate African Americans anymore, they haven't been able to chase the Irish out of town for so long they forgot they even hated them. Gays are slowly  becoming tolerable, but trans people seem to be fair game.  What will they do when that's taken from them?  I guess we better discover life on other planets son so they'll have someone to heap scorn upon.


What if the space people are here and they're afraid of Florida and that's why space aliens stay in Las Vegas.

Also free parking.
 
2021-04-20 6:35:53 PM  
The GOP will still use it as a wedge issue to rally the base.  Their mistake was that true believers in the legislature actually tried to do something about it.
 
2021-04-20 6:38:49 PM  

Hoobajube: The GOP will still use it as a wedge issue to rally the base.  Their mistake was that true believers in the legislature actually tried to do something about it.


That base is slowly dying off and not replacing at a rate to continue.

In short, all their base belongs to us
 
2021-04-20 6:41:43 PM  
I don't think they hate trans kids.

I think they're just trying to manufacture access the genitals of children.
 
2021-04-20 6:42:01 PM  

PlaidJaguar: I don't think they hate trans kids.

I think they're just trying to manufacture access the genitals of children.


Also, they hate trans kids
 
2021-04-20 6:58:09 PM  
Trans rights are human rights
 
2021-04-20 6:59:32 PM  

hardinparamedic: Eclectic: These sports bans are not just about sports anymore than the bathroom bills were just about bathrooms.
They are a coordinated attack on trans people's ability to exist in public *at all*

There have been over 117 ant-trans bills proposed across 30 states this year so far (that was last week's count by the HRC), and it's the worst year on record already. On top of these sports bills, we're seeing:

- Several states wanting to prohibit trans affirming care for young people Up to age 21 in NC.
- Some of those states making supporting a trans child fall under child abuse statues (TX, OK, a new one in AR)
- IN and TN looking at new bathroom bills
- AR looking at encouraging teachers to deadname and misgender people from kindergarten through college
AR and others looking to add broad exemptions to allow health care providers to not treat LGBTQ+ people and others for anything not immediately life threatening on moral or religious grounds.
- Making it harder or impossible to update identity documents
- Forbidding state services from paying for tans care all the way down to therapy and blood level monitoring
- Allowing insurance companies to refuse to cover trans care even though that violates provisions of the ACA
- Forbidding LGBTQ issues from being discussed in schools

So the message from the GOP has been "We support your right to live as you choose, but no medical care, updated ID, sports participation, bathroom access, insurance, public accommodations, or any social support at all. Other than all *that* we support you." Well, and we may arrest your parents and remove you from them and chuck you into the foster system if you're under 18. Enjoy!

Please, I beg you, don't fall for the "this is about fairness in sports" dance. It's so much more than that, and this is just a convenient wedge.

The transgender care portion in particular is trying to force the issue to the supreme court so they can get a ruling it's not a medical care issue, but a "let states decide" issue along the lines of Marijuana. They legitimately want to make hormone care for transgender people of all ages illegal, not just inaccessable. They tried inaccessibility before, and it still happened.

This is essentially a form of genocide against transgender people - if they can't get us into the camps, they'll just make life so unbearable we off ourselves.

Goddamnit, I miss the days when I wasn't the political target dujure.


I work with parents who are having to pull up stakes and flee to new states to keep their children safe for now. Every single day I talk to parents who are terrified. Who's kids are being crushed by this. This is very much a genocidal purge of our community. And the GOP has tricked too many people who would be our allies into seeing it as preserving the purity of sports.

'It's not safe': Parents of transgender kids plan to flee their states as GOP bills loom

I am at the end of my rope trying to cope with the damage it's doing even now.
 
2021-04-20 7:08:59 PM  
This is why all of your liberals with "concerns" about sports need to shut up.
 
2021-04-20 7:17:26 PM  
Eclectic:

The stories you tell make me physically ill with anger sometimes.
I really hate these monsters for treating trans people as less than people. It's inhuman.
 
2021-04-20 11:00:41 PM  

Eclectic: These sports bans are not just about sports anymore than the bathroom bills were just about bathrooms.
They are a coordinated attack on trans people's ability to exist in public *at all*

There have been over 117 ant-trans bills proposed across 30 states this year so far (that was last week's count by the HRC), and it's the worst year on record already. On top of these sports bills, we're seeing:

- Several states wanting to prohibit trans affirming care for young people Up to age 21 in NC.
- Some of those states making supporting a trans child fall under child abuse statues (TX, OK, a new one in AR)
- IN and TN looking at new bathroom bills
- AR looking at encouraging teachers to deadname and misgender people from kindergarten through college
AR and others looking to add broad exemptions to allow health care providers to not treat LGBTQ+ people and others for anything not immediately life threatening on moral or religious grounds.
- Making it harder or impossible to update identity documents
- Forbidding state services from paying for tans care all the way down to therapy and blood level monitoring
- Allowing insurance companies to refuse to cover trans care even though that violates provisions of the ACA
- Forbidding LGBTQ issues from being discussed in schools

So the message from the GOP has been "We support your right to live as you choose, but no medical care, updated ID, sports participation, bathroom access, insurance, public accommodations, or any social support at all. Other than all *that* we support you." Well, and we may arrest your parents and remove you from them and chuck you into the foster system if you're under 18. Enjoy!

Please, I beg you, don't fall for the "this is about fairness in sports" dance. It's so much more than that, and this is just a convenient wedge.


It disturbed me when I finally put the pieces together, but the same people who were adamantly against Interracial marriage suddenly became militantly anti-gay Once the civil Rights Act and Loving v. Va made it clear the tide had turned and they lost that battle, and now that Obergefell is the law of the land and the Republic hasn't fallen and nobody cares anymore, they desperately need a new object for their two-minute hate so they decided to pick on kids who are already the most bullied kids in America, and it sickens me
 
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