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(Guardian)   The real effect of all that stimulus money being poured into economies across the globe? The second highest annual rise in carbon dioxide emissions ever   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2021-04-20 9:07:44 AM  
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/if you seek al gore
 
2021-04-20 9:11:49 AM  
um if you had a year where everyone was inside and not driving and the next year all the lockdowns were removed wouldn't this be an expected result.
 
2021-04-20 9:14:14 AM  
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2021-04-20 9:15:00 AM  

khitsicker: um if you had a year where everyone was inside and not driving and the next year all the lockdowns were removed wouldn't this be an expected result.


That's exactly what I suspected but they say the jump is even bigger than just "a lower starting point" and is disproportionately focused on coal for no good reason.

/i rarely rtfa
 
2021-04-20 9:25:26 AM  

khitsicker: um if you had a year where everyone was inside and not driving and the next year all the lockdowns were removed wouldn't this be an expected result.


Done in two.

I'm a rabid environmentalist, and I'm happy to blame government and big business when appropriate, but this is just a relative increase compared to the massive decreases seen during lockdown.

BUT - it does show that we can effect real change if we want to. And quickly.
 
2021-04-20 9:38:07 AM  
It's almost May and I've yet to receive any sort of "stimulus check". When I check on it I get the message that it's "pending". Anyone else having this happen?
 
2021-04-20 9:38:21 AM  
Air pollution, at least, is a one-week problem.

We could fix it any time we want, but choose not to, as the pandemic has proven.

Gonna miss the beautiful air.
 
2021-04-20 9:39:00 AM  
Between January 1 and December 31, 2020, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) screened a total of about 324 million passengers, or 39 percent of the 824 million total passengers TSA screened in 2019. But the agency and other industry observers believe the biggest drops in travel are likely behind us.

Gee, I wonder what could have caused 2021 to rise so substantially.
 
2021-04-20 9:39:05 AM  

MelGoesOnTour: It's almost May and I've yet to receive any sort of "stimulus check". When I check on it I get the message that it's "pending". Anyone else having this happen?


The money goes to the corps.  They're the ones that make all the pollution too.
 
2021-04-20 9:39:49 AM  
It's almost as if you need to have the carbon reduced infrastructure in place BEFORE you see any change in carbon output during a non-depression economy.  Who knew?
 
2021-04-20 9:51:00 AM  
The leap will be second only to the massive rebound 10 years ago after the financial crisis, and will put climate hopes out of reach unless governments act quickly, the International Energy Agency has warned.

OK, I did not realize that Ric Romero worked at The Guardian.
 
2021-04-20 9:52:52 AM  
There goes Nicolas Cage again, with his murdering movies again...

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2021-04-20 9:54:24 AM  

El_Dan: The leap will be second only to the massive rebound 10 years ago after the financial crisis, and will put climate hopes out of reach unless governments act quickly, the International Energy Agency has warned.

OK, I did not realize that Ric Romero worked at The Guardian.


Didn't read the article?
 
2021-04-20 9:54:28 AM  
Do dog farts count?

My dogs have obliterated my olfactory cells now that I work from home, I have to desperately explain myself when the Fedex guy shows up with eyes watering once I open the door (he never believes me).

Two grown men retching and crying while exchanging packages has to be the worst kind of environmental pollution out there.
 
2021-04-20 9:56:40 AM  
All those burn barrels, burning water bottles covered in motor oil, and the wood-fires of artisanal sourdough bakers.

A smell more comforting than your mom's house.
 
2021-04-20 9:56:42 AM  
My two new subwoofers don't cause pollution. Suck it, neighbors.
 
2021-04-20 9:58:04 AM  
Capitalism or humanity: There can only be one.
 
2021-04-20 10:05:12 AM  
So you thought that during 14 months of forced isolation the American people would collectively contemplate the notions of faith, community, death, coexistence and solitude and then come out of it with a greater understanding of our place in the natural world, as a species, and in society as a productive, empathetic individual?

You're a sweet kid.
 
2021-04-20 10:10:10 AM  

dothemath: So you thought that during 14 months of forced isolation the American people would collectively contemplate the notions of faith, community, death, coexistence and solitude and then come out of it with a greater understanding of our place in the natural world, as a species, and in society as a productive, empathetic individual?

You're a sweet kid.


The article discusses the problem from a global perspective, not just a US one. It's not always about you, America!
 
2021-04-20 10:12:02 AM  
The real effect has been equities markets on steroids.
 
2021-04-20 10:12:52 AM  

Screaming Candle: It's almost as if you need to have the carbon reduced infrastructure in place BEFORE you see any change in carbon output during a non-depression economy.  Who knew?


Kept pushing for a hard expansion on transit and active transportation while traffic was depressed and it'd be the easiest it's ever going to be to do major works, but, nope, everybody's like 'oh that costs too much' and 'not in my backyard'.

This species is just asking to be exterminated.
 
2021-04-20 10:16:07 AM  
Hey!  We cut emissions by 33%* last year!  Woohoo!

But now emissions increased by 50%* this year!   Ack!  It's gotten worse!

* obviously made up numbers

/Percentages.  How do they work?
 
2021-04-20 10:17:03 AM  
Pretty sure that's due to blockchain.
 
2021-04-20 10:19:57 AM  
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Doing my part.

/ not my rig
// 800MH/s
/// $80iish/day profit
 
2021-04-20 10:22:03 AM  
No...really? You mean trying to maintain that screwed up, money chasing, popularity contest called modern society entails doing things that caused modern society to get screwed up and forced people to chase money in the first place?

You're shiattin' me!
 
2021-04-20 10:25:55 AM  

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/if you seek al gore


Man she was pretty high on the hot to crazy scale for a long time. Today ... not so much.
 
2021-04-20 10:30:45 AM  

FlashHarry: khitsicker: um if you had a year where everyone was inside and not driving and the next year all the lockdowns were removed wouldn't this be an expected result.

Done in two.

I'm a rabid environmentalist, and I'm happy to blame government and big business when appropriate, but this is just a relative increase compared to the massive decreases seen during lockdown.

BUT - it does show that we can effect real change if we want to. And quickly.


I was honestly shocked at how much changed over the past year. Just in smog alone. Places that had a 2 mile haze were able to actually see mountains that are normally obscured by the smog. Wildlife started coming out and visiting places they had abandoned previously. Maybe we should take a little notice of  these things and adjust the way we live a bit. I've always said that if you keep screwing with the earth eventually its gonna screw us back. Maybe this pandemic is natures way of balancing the equation.
 
2021-04-20 10:31:59 AM  

MelGoesOnTour: It's almost May and I've yet to receive any sort of "stimulus check". When I check on it I get the message that it's "pending". Anyone else having this happen?


I think the timing was poor with tax season coinciding with the IRS issuing checks etc.
 
2021-04-20 10:37:23 AM  
How does anybody think this has to do with stimulus money?  I mean really how does anyone make that connection?

/Cue the welcome to fark pic.
 
2021-04-20 10:38:54 AM  

EdgeRunner: It's not always about you, America!


Well, I bet the next time you need to borrow a cup of Carrier Battle Group it'll be all about us you ungrateful socialist butter churner.
 
2021-04-20 10:40:21 AM  

G-doggy: How does anybody think this has to do with stimulus money?  I mean really how does anyone make that connection?

/Cue the welcome to fark pic.


Didn't you buy coal with all of your stimulus money? (I wanted to get in on that sweet Gamestop stock, but I waited too late so I invested in a different struggling industry.)
 
2021-04-20 10:47:50 AM  

NikolaiFarkoff: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/CduA0TUL​now]

/if you seek al gore


It seems like a lifetime ago when she was the hottest piece of jailbait on the planet.

Now shes just a middle aged lady making tik tok videos.
 
2021-04-20 10:52:00 AM  
Next weekend in the Guardian: Barter Economy is best for the Environment.
 
2021-04-20 10:54:49 AM  
All the more reason to pass the infrastructure bill.
 
2021-04-20 10:59:37 AM  
I went and bought up all the old tires I could find and lit them on fire. It sounds wasteful but it's still burning.
 
2021-04-20 10:59:47 AM  
Awww, did you farkers go shopping again?  Of course you did.  Your life has no  meaning without it.
 
2021-04-20 11:00:15 AM  

EdgeRunner: G-doggy: How does anybody think this has to do with stimulus money?  I mean really how does anyone make that connection?

/Cue the welcome to fark pic.

Didn't you buy coal with all of your stimulus money? (I wanted to get in on that sweet Gamestop stock, but I waited too late so I invested in a different struggling industry.)


So far, I've bought a new mountain bike, a new 32" monitor for work, a Maltese puppy for my mom and 4 tires+ alignment.
 
2021-04-20 11:03:05 AM  

Netrngr: FlashHarry: khitsicker: um if you had a year where everyone was inside and not driving and the next year all the lockdowns were removed wouldn't this be an expected result.
Done in two.
I'm a rabid environmentalist, and I'm happy to blame government and big business when appropriate, but this is just a relative increase compared to the massive decreases seen during lockdown.
BUT - it does show that we can effect real change if we want to. And quickly.
I was honestly shocked at how much changed over the past year. Just in smog alone. Places that had a 2 mile haze were able to actually see mountains that are normally obscured by the smog. Wildlife started coming out and visiting places they had abandoned previously. Maybe we should take a little notice of  these things and adjust the way we live a bit. I've always said that if you keep screwing with the earth eventually its gonna screw us back. Maybe this pandemic is natures way of balancing the equation.


You have never read any of my posts, have you?

I should just go.  I write and write and write and nobody can even see it.
Your peace of mind depends on it.
 
2021-04-20 11:04:20 AM  

Salmon: Do dog farts count?

My dogs have obliterated my olfactory cells now that I work from home, I have to desperately explain myself when the Fedex guy shows up with eyes watering once I open the door (he never believes me).

Two grown men retching and crying while exchanging packages has to be the worst kind of environmental pollution out there.


Your FedEx guy stays long enough for you to answer your door?
 
2021-04-20 11:05:22 AM  
but didn't it drop a bunch over the last year due to lockdowns, so 'second highest' is kind of a misnomer? it was just correcting itself.
 
2021-04-20 11:09:26 AM  

dothemath: NikolaiFarkoff: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/CduA0TUL​now]

/if you seek al gore

It seems like a lifetime ago when she was the hottest piece of jailbait on the planet.

Now shes just a middle aged lady making tik tok videos.


She's only 39.
 
2021-04-20 11:17:49 AM  

khitsicker: um if you had a year where everyone was inside and not driving and the next year all the lockdowns were removed wouldn't this be an expected result.


No because the various industrial complexes drives the majority of pollution.  Also the myth that a consumer has control over stopping global warming.
 
2021-04-20 11:20:38 AM  
Didn't know Hookers put out that much CO2.
 
2021-04-20 11:25:44 AM  

stuffy: Didn't know Hookers put out that much CO2.


You'd think it'd be so much less, them being street walkers and all. No cars, no bikes, just walking the streets or car pooling. They're the real environmental heroes here.
 
2021-04-20 11:33:04 AM  

khitsicker: um if you had a year where everyone was inside and not driving and the next year all the lockdowns were removed wouldn't this be an expected result.


Yes. But that's not how it's advertised.
 
2021-04-20 11:35:47 AM  

Wendigogo: dothemath: NikolaiFarkoff: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/CduA0TUL​now]

/if you seek al gore

It seems like a lifetime ago when she was the hottest piece of jailbait on the planet.

Now shes just a middle aged lady making tik tok videos.

She's only 39.


Yikes.

Shes got the glassy, hollow eyes of a 50 year old ER nurse.
 
2021-04-20 11:39:08 AM  

Snort: Next weekend in the Guardian: Barter Economy is best for the Environment.


I don't understand what you mean by that.  It is.  Its better for the environment, it's better for us, it helps form community bonds, it cuts way down on waste, AND, this is very important--it teaches us that we are capable beings who can take care of ourselves, and work together with others to make our lives better.

We had all of this removed from us when we turned to consumerism.  The more helpless and disconnected we feel, the more we buy.  The more we buy, the more disconnected we become from ourselves, and each other.  Its a beautiful dilemma, made for us by our shiat-talking overlords, and paid for hand over fist by YOU.

I've been thinking of some way to open up a community refrigerator, or some kind of swap meet, in my own town.  We have a lot of poor people.  All greedy too.  Why, they learned it from YOU.  All the finer people are greedy, hoarding bastards.  Next year, moats with drawbridge are coming back, fark the zoning.  You need a moat, to protect from the poor people!

Sharing.  Mr. Rogers was right.
 
2021-04-20 11:39:39 AM  
correlation != causation anyone?

I bet there's a map of polluting nations that looks like a population map

and before you see this is needed
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2021-04-20 11:42:06 AM  

fanbladesaresharp: khitsicker: um if you had a year where everyone was inside and not driving and the next year all the lockdowns were removed wouldn't this be an expected result.
Yes. But that's not how it's advertised.


Would you like it explained in a way that removes you and your country for responsibility for anything, since you're nothing but victims of slanted reporting and worldwide climate conspiracies?

I bet you would.  But facts don't work that way.
 
2021-04-20 11:43:37 AM  

NikolaiFarkoff: khitsicker: um if you had a year where everyone was inside and not driving and the next year all the lockdowns were removed wouldn't this be an expected result.

That's exactly what I suspected but they say the jump is even bigger than just "a lower starting point" and is disproportionately focused on coal for no good reason.

/i rarely rtfa


Don't Chinese cryptocurrency farms rely fairly heavily on coal power?
 
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