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(CNN)   Maxine Waters may have handed Chauvin a chance for an appeal if he is convicted, according to the judge presiding over the case   (cnn.com) divider line
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2021-04-19 7:03:57 PM  
FARK you, Nazi judge.
 
2021-04-19 7:09:40 PM  
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2021-04-19 7:15:26 PM  
Thiere should be a mistrial.

Because of the judge's biases.
 
2021-04-19 7:15:51 PM  
Buried lede: WHY IS THE JUDGE OF AN ONGOING TRIAL GIVING INTERVIEWS AND OPINIONS?

I don't think even Ito did that.
 
2021-04-19 7:15:52 PM  

GardenWeasel: [Fark user image 597x256]


Yeeep.
 
2021-04-19 7:17:04 PM  
Are the jurors not under sequestration with orders to ignore all related news items? Did the judge not issue instructions for the jury to only pay heed to the evidence presented and nothing else? IANAL, but this seems a stretch.
 
2021-04-19 7:18:42 PM  
He always had a avenue for appeal, redactedmitter
 
2021-04-19 7:20:21 PM  

Sabreace22: Are the jurors not under sequestration with orders to ignore all related news items? Did the judge not issue instructions for the jury to only pay heed to the evidence presented and nothing else? IANAL, but this seems a stretch.


Nope. Feel free to speculate why that is.
 
2021-04-19 7:25:47 PM  
Judge can fark off, but yourenothelping.gif for Waters.

Don't tell protesters to be more forceful, you dummy.
 
2021-04-19 7:26:43 PM  

GardenWeasel: Sabreace22: Are the jurors not under sequestration with orders to ignore all related news items? Did the judge not issue instructions for the jury to only pay heed to the evidence presented and nothing else? IANAL, but this seems a stretch.

Nope. Feel free to speculate why that is.


Because if there's one thing we are good at around here, it's speculation.
 
2021-04-19 7:27:00 PM  

GardenWeasel: Sabreace22: Are the jurors not under sequestration with orders to ignore all related news items? Did the judge not issue instructions for the jury to only pay heed to the evidence presented and nothing else? IANAL, but this seems a stretch.

Nope. Feel free to speculate why that is.


Fark that noise, mis-trial then, and not an appeal situation. Of course this is how I, local man, believe the judicial system works in my head.
 
2021-04-19 7:30:19 PM  
If she didn't the judge certainly did with comments like that.
 
2021-04-19 7:48:03 PM  
And there is the mistrial on appeal.

The judge did his part.
 
2021-04-19 7:54:35 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Buried lede: WHY IS THE JUDGE OF AN ONGOING TRIAL GIVING INTERVIEWS AND OPINIONS?

I don't think even Ito did that.


This was something said in open court, in discussion with the lawyers, after the jury had gone into deliberations.

something, something, tv cameras in courtrooms, something something.
 
2021-04-19 8:12:27 PM  

Farkenhostile: If she didn't the judge certainly did with comments like that.


Mmmmhmmm.
 
2021-04-19 8:41:21 PM  
It seems to me that the judge's statement is so absurd that I have to wonder how impartial he has been in this trial.
 
2021-04-19 8:44:19 PM  

Sarah Jessica Farker: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Buried lede: WHY IS THE JUDGE OF AN ONGOING TRIAL GIVING INTERVIEWS AND OPINIONS?

I don't think even Ito did that.

This was something said in open court, in discussion with the lawyers, after the jury had gone into deliberations.

something, something, tv cameras in courtrooms, something something.


I sure the heck hope it was after. If it was before, he should be farking removed from the bench, disbarred, and charged with jury tampering. Of course, the only people less likely to punish colleagues than cops are judges.
 
2021-04-19 8:44:34 PM  
 
2021-04-19 8:45:30 PM  

GardenWeasel: [Fark user image 597x256]


I look forward to the Complete List of Trump Public Statement About Defendants or Proceedings.
 
2021-04-19 8:51:35 PM  

vygramul: GardenWeasel: [Fark user image 597x256]

I look forward to the Complete List of Trump Public Statement About Defendants or Proceedings.


Good luck.
 
2021-04-19 8:52:27 PM  

Sarah Jessica Farker: Context matters: https://twitter.com/JanNWolfe/status/1​384303802006736899


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I agree, politicians should not be undermining an ongoing trial. That's the kind of shiat Trump did all the time.
 
2021-04-19 8:58:39 PM  
A slightly different take, from a trial lawyer:
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2021-04-19 8:59:09 PM  

make me some tea: Sarah Jessica Farker: Context matters: https://twitter.com/JanNWolfe/status/1​384303802006736899


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I agree, politicians should not be undermining an ongoing trial. That's the kind of shiat Trump did all the time.


The fact that she had to point out the feature - not bug, feature - of racism in our legal system does not undermine anything in this case.  The system which allows for different treatment based on skin or uniform color is what undermines our democracy.
 
2021-04-19 9:00:04 PM  
Loosely translated: "Boy howdy, am I looking like crazy for a reason to dismiss a guilty verdict."
 
2021-04-19 9:04:20 PM  
Keep in mind the judge is still pissed that the city announced their settlement to the family during jury selection. He doesn't want this to get overturned on appeal, especially for something that was outside his control.
 
2021-04-19 9:08:57 PM  

puffy999: make me some tea: Sarah Jessica Farker: Context matters: https://twitter.com/JanNWolfe/status/1​384303802006736899


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I agree, politicians should not be undermining an ongoing trial. That's the kind of shiat Trump did all the time.

The fact that she had to point out the feature - not bug, feature - of racism in our legal system does not undermine anything in this case.  The system which allows for different treatment based on skin or uniform color is what undermines our democracy.


I agree with you, but her timing is poor. She should've waited until after the verdict is in.

She has a responsibility to uphold rule of law.

She nor anyone else knows how this ends and she's trying to armchair general the response already.
 
2021-04-19 9:18:10 PM  

WTFDYW: vygramul: GardenWeasel: [Fark user image 597x256]

I look forward to the Complete List of Trump Public Statement About Defendants or Proceedings.

Good luck.


It would rival the Complete List of People and Organizations the Right Wing Hates.
 
2021-04-19 9:48:06 PM  
"We've got to stay in the street and demand justice," Waters said to reporters, according to video posted on social media."We're looking for a guilty verdict and we're looking to see if all of the talk that took place and has been taking place after they saw what happened to George Floyd. If nothing does not happen, then we know that we got to not only stay in the street, but we have got to fight for justice," she added.She already knows that nothing has changed, is changing or will change with the current system left intact. She is right, though.
 
2021-04-19 9:48:13 PM  
Sure judge. And when the guy gets away with murder because a black woman had something to say, the riots will be even worse.
 
2021-04-19 9:59:47 PM  

Jack Sabbath: Don't tell protesters to be more forceful, you dummy.



Historically, its what gets things done over the long haul..
 
2021-04-19 10:01:40 PM  

vygramul: WTFDYW: vygramul: GardenWeasel: [Fark user image 597x256]

I look forward to the Complete List of Trump Public Statement About Defendants or Proceedings.

Good luck.

It would rival the Complete List of People and Organizations the Right Wing Hates.


The LOLGOPCATAWTFBBQ!?!?!?!

Surely it must be dead by now.
 
2021-04-19 10:06:27 PM  

Sarah Jessica Farker: Context matters: https://twitter.com/JanNWolfe/status/1​384303802006736899


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Oh, that's no fun. Let's go with the narrative, and freak completely out.
 
2021-04-19 10:08:14 PM  
What, are they not sequestering the jurors? Because I'd think with the high profile of this trial, they'd have the jurors sequestered.
 
2021-04-19 10:08:58 PM  
Racist judge says what?
 
2021-04-19 10:09:03 PM  

Somacandra: Jack Sabbath: Don't tell protesters to be more forceful, you dummy.


Historically, its what gets things done over the long haul..


Said Stalin
 
2021-04-19 10:10:46 PM  
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And again, she isn't wrong at all.
 
2021-04-19 10:11:36 PM  
The Judge wasn't giving interviews, he was rebutting a mistrial request by the defense lawyer. Defense lawyer has every right to call out possible reasons his client deserves a mistrial. In this case, the Judge stated clearly he wasn't dismissing the motion for the mistrial, and called out politicians to let the justice system work as an independent branch of government.  I had no problem with the request or the action of the judge.
 
2021-04-19 10:11:49 PM  
This is the judge who was upset that the city settled the wrongful death lawsuit to Floyd's family.

This judge can fark off until he can't fark off anymore, at which point he'd get get dragged behind a horse that's continuing to fark off for him.
 
2021-04-19 10:11:51 PM  
The judge just made it a mistrial.  He blew it.  On purpose.
 
2021-04-19 10:12:40 PM  
He didn't say "this is grounds", he said "I think this is nonsense, take it to appeal if you think that's a thing" in the greater context of what he said.
 
2021-04-19 10:12:50 PM  

hubiestubert: Loosely translated: "Boy howdy, am I looking like crazy for a reason to dismiss a guilty verdict."


I've watched a ton of the trial, and I'm thinking that Cahill is the sort of judge that doesn't want to get overturned on appeal.

YMMV.  But I think that's why he seems to favor the defense so.

OTOH, as a judge, I think he's well aware that Eric Nelson is spewing a ton of BS at this point.
 
2021-04-19 10:14:14 PM  
Waters needs to choose her words more carefully.

I see this quite often in racially charged trials. Saying that only a guilty or an innocent verdict is acceptable is saying you replace the judgement of the court with your own, no matter what the facts are.
 
2021-04-19 10:14:56 PM  

germ78: What, are they not sequestering the jurors? Because I'd think with the high profile of this trial, they'd have the jurors sequestered.


Every time this judge gets mentioned on Fark it's after he's done something to deliberately tilt the proceedings in favour of Chauvin in any possible way he could short of just dismissing the charges outright.
 
2021-04-19 10:15:06 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Buried lede: WHY IS THE JUDGE OF AN ONGOING TRIAL GIVING INTERVIEWS AND OPINIONS?

I don't think even Ito did that.


This is from a comment made from the bench.
 
2021-04-19 10:15:18 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image image 850x850]

And again, she isn't wrong at all.


The beautiful thing, for those of us in the know, is that is one rose top on an embroidered jacket of crazy.
 
2021-04-19 10:16:04 PM  
See John Walker Lindh v W's administration.  And then STFU.
 
2021-04-19 10:16:51 PM  
Dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
 
2021-04-19 10:17:04 PM  
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Same as it ever was.
 
2021-04-19 10:17:44 PM  

Ignoramist: Waters needs to choose her words more carefully.

I see this quite often in racially charged trials. Saying that only a guilty or an innocent verdict is acceptable is saying you replace the judgement of the court with your own, no matter what the facts are.


There's video of him killing a man, with help.

A jury choosing to say "Hey, we're cool with that" isn't going to magically make Floyd stop being dead, nor is it going to make his killer a mystery.
 
2021-04-19 10:17:48 PM  

covalesj: The Judge wasn't giving interviews, he was rebutting a mistrial request by the defense lawyer. Defense lawyer has every right to call out possible reasons his client deserves a mistrial. In this case, the Judge stated clearly he wasn't dismissing the motion for the mistrial, and called out politicians to let the justice system work as an independent branch of government.  I had no problem with the request or the action of the judge.


These people on fark are just too stupid to look at the facts.
 
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