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(MSN)   Apparently being beaten by an insurrectionist mob is now considered "natural causes"   (msn.com) divider line
    More: Asinine, Death, Law enforcement agency, Federal Bureau of Investigation, United States Congress, Police, United States Capitol Police, Francisco J. Diaz, The Washington Post  
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2021-04-19 6:00:24 PM  
Oh good, more opinions from people who never took a college level anatomy and physiology course.
I can hardly wait.
 
2021-04-19 6:17:03 PM  
Well, his heart stopping DID kill him, but might want to think WHY the heart stopped, you apologist jackholes.
 
2021-04-19 6:31:56 PM  
his heart stopped.  that's natural.
 
2021-04-19 6:38:26 PM  

SoundOfOneHandWanking: his heart stopped.  that's natural.


Yes
Natural causes means he wasn't hit by a bus.
Now imagine how many people aren't going to be able to grasp that concept.
 
2021-04-19 6:48:21 PM  

hubiestubert: Well, his heart stopping DID kill him, but might want to think WHY the heart stopped, you apologist jackholes.


FTFA: "Francisco J. Diaz, the medical examiner, said the autopsy found no evidence the 42-year-old officer suffered an allergic reaction to chemical irritants... Diaz also said there was no evidence of internal or external injuries."

But "medical examiner noted Sicknick was among the officers who engaged the Capitol mob and said "all that transpired played a role in his condition."

Still, if he didn't have any internal or external injuries, but the stress caused him to stroke, that's a real hard murder case to make.
 
2021-04-19 7:36:14 PM  

cretinbob: Oh good, more opinions from people who never took a college level anatomy and physiology course.
I can hardly wait.


Hey, egghead, are you saying my GED in physiology isn't enough?

well la-dee-da!
 
2021-04-19 7:38:03 PM  
Can they at least write a Horst Sicknick leid...er, song.
 
2021-04-19 7:38:05 PM  
Meh can't read it, Jeff Bezos needs his nickel
 
2021-04-19 7:38:46 PM  

cretinbob: Oh good, more opinions from people who never took a college level anatomy and physiology course.
I can hardly wait.


Ah I took a class on human anatomy. Let me click the article and see what is being claimed.

*click*

Uh......beaten by treasonists, two strokes, and natural causes?

Look man I am not an expert but I think that might be false.
 
2021-04-19 7:38:50 PM  
 
2021-04-19 7:39:14 PM  
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2021-04-19 7:39:35 PM  
A very Jeremy Clarkson way of thinking.

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2021-04-19 7:39:55 PM  
He probably stroked out at the realization that his fellow Trumpers were trying to kill him.
 
2021-04-19 7:40:08 PM  
I've been to a lot of marches and never saw anyone keel over and die. Yet somehow this "protest" of a couple hours had 4 people do just that. It don't make any sense.
 
2021-04-19 7:40:48 PM  
Meanwhile in Minneapolis: The same apologists are contending to win gold medal in mental olympics as they try to make up an excuse for why it was anything, absolutely anything, other than Chauvin literally squeezing the life out of him that killed George Floyd.
 
2021-04-19 7:40:59 PM  
What about these felony murder statutes they use on those people all the time?
 
2021-04-19 7:42:48 PM  

hubiestubert: Well, his heart stopping DID kill him, but might want to think WHY the heart stopped, you apologist jackholes.


I dunno.  I mean, eff these people, but it sounds like he died from stress to his heart.  I don't know if there's a way to hold someone accountable for that.  Maybe there is in this case, but a cop's job is stressful, and people's hearts give out sometimes.  Considering they found no injuries on or in him, it seems like there's little to pin on anyone, here.
 
2021-04-19 7:42:48 PM  

Headso: Meh can't read it, Jeff Bezos needs his nickel


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2021-04-19 7:43:20 PM  

cretinbob: Oh good, more opinions from people who never took a college level anatomy and physiology course.
I can hardly wait.


And that's just the coroner.
 
2021-04-19 7:43:32 PM  
A highway patrol sgt once told me that there were a lot of what he called voodoo medical examiners, because they could look at the same piece of evidence and make completely opposing diagnosis depending on what the district attorney wanted.

He also claimed that ballistic experts were, in his opinion, the worst offenders of the lot.

It's not really science when you know what you want to conclude ahead of your examination, even if your intentions are pure, your opinions will always color your diagnosis.

Now if we did blind examinations where the medical examiner had no idea of who the patient was and what cases they were tied to...
 
2021-04-19 7:43:46 PM  

hubiestubert: Well, his heart stopping DID kill him, but might want to think WHY the heart stopped, you apologist jackholes.


See also George Floyd
 
2021-04-19 7:43:53 PM  
I think I'll shoot a hemophiliac. The gun shot didn't kill him, it was hemophilia. It's the perfect defense.
 
2021-04-19 7:44:08 PM  
So does this mean the Eggshell Skull Rule is officially no longer a tenet of US criminallaw? Nor even tort law?
 
2021-04-19 7:46:06 PM  
So then that lady that was shot died from natural causes too?
 
2021-04-19 7:46:52 PM  
Okay, so murder and manslaughter are off the table

What kind of time are these chucklefarks looking at for assaulting multiple police officers while trespassing and being Trumpy assholes. Personally I'm hoping for max sentences
 
2021-04-19 7:48:18 PM  
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2021-04-19 7:51:42 PM  
Stupid people gonna stupid.

See? Natural.
 
2021-04-19 7:51:55 PM  

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I really wish I could have facial hair like that.
 
2021-04-19 7:52:05 PM  
Cyril Wecht! Cyril Wecht! Please pick up the White Courtesy Rib Shears! Paging Cyril Wecht!
 
2021-04-19 7:53:16 PM  

UltimaCS: Headso: Meh can't read it, Jeff Bezos needs his nickel

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That doesn't always work
 
2021-04-19 7:55:15 PM  

UltimaCS: Headso: Meh can't read it, Jeff Bezos needs his nickel

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Incognito only works if you use a socialist browser
 
2021-04-19 7:56:13 PM  

UltimaCS: I've been to a lot of marches and never saw anyone keel over and die. Yet somehow this "protest" of a couple hours had 4 people do just that. It don't make any sense.


I mean, the state that a lot of those people were in to start with...
 
2021-04-19 7:57:17 PM  

AngryTeacher: I think I'll shoot a hemophiliac. The gun shot didn't kill him, it was hemophilia. It's the perfect defense.


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2021-04-19 7:58:02 PM  
Everybody dies eventually, therefore all causes of death are natural.
 
2021-04-19 7:58:08 PM  

UltimaCS: I've been to a lot of marches and never saw anyone keel over and die. Yet somehow this "protest" of a couple hours had 4 people do just that. It don't make any sense.


These are not smart people. I want to give it to the "don't tread on me" flag waver who got trampled but the guy who died after tasing himself in the dick was the greatest insurrectionist death of all time.
 
2021-04-19 7:58:26 PM  

saywhonow: So then that lady that was shot died from natural causes too?


Not if she bled out right there.
It's semantics.
It's bullshiat, but it's semantics.
 
2021-04-19 7:58:52 PM  

Shaggy_C: UltimaCS: I've been to a lot of marches and never saw anyone keel over and die. Yet somehow this "protest" of a couple hours had 4 people do just that. It don't make any sense.

These are not smart people. I want to give it to the "don't tread on me" flag waver who got trampled but the guy who died after tasing himself in the dick was the greatest insurrectionist death of all time.


The guy who tased himself in the balls is a fabricated story, but many of us choose to believe that's what happened anyway.
 
2021-04-19 7:59:37 PM  
Intent follows the "bullet," even if the weapon used isn't an actual bullet. The insurrectionists brought along a homemade gallows which they intended to use to kill Pence for not being sufficiently loyal to Trump.

It's not just felony murder, but also first degree murder. The fact that Sicknick wasn't hanged from that gallows is irrelevant.
 
2021-04-19 8:00:02 PM  
Guess he really was a sick Nick.
 
2021-04-19 8:00:24 PM  
We're these embolic or hemorrhagic strokes? Because if they were hemorrhagic strokes in a 43 year old, what really happened is much more likely that he bled to death inside his skull because a crowd of domestic terrorists beat the shiat out of him.
 
2021-04-19 8:02:31 PM  

Weatherkiss: Shaggy_C: UltimaCS: I've been to a lot of marches and never saw anyone keel over and die. Yet somehow this "protest" of a couple hours had 4 people do just that. It don't make any sense.

These are not smart people. I want to give it to the "don't tread on me" flag waver who got trampled but the guy who died after tasing himself in the dick was the greatest insurrectionist death of all time.

The guy who tased himself in the balls is a fabricated story, but many of us choose to believe that's what happened anyway.


Funny enough, same can be said of the cop being "murdered" despite the evidence of it being natural causes being known for months now. People still go on about the fire extinguisher as if it were fact.
 
2021-04-19 8:04:23 PM  

nmrsnr: hubiestubert: Well, his heart stopping DID kill him, but might want to think WHY the heart stopped, you apologist jackholes.

FTFA: "Francisco J. Diaz, the medical examiner, said the autopsy found no evidence the 42-year-old officer suffered an allergic reaction to chemical irritants... Diaz also said there was no evidence of internal or external injuries."

But "medical examiner noted Sicknick was among the officers who engaged the Capitol mob and said "all that transpired played a role in his condition."

Still, if he didn't have any internal or external injuries, but the stress caused him to stroke, that's a real hard murder case to make.


That's the problem here... People thi k that this is just writing it off. But that's not it. The guy had two strokes, and they can't definitively tie those to anything that happened on Jan 6th. The strokes may have been cause by whatever he was sprayed with, but if they can't prove that, it doesn't mean a farking thing. This isn't TV, they don't have the magic that TV shows have, some shiat just can't be done right now.

Strokes are a hard thing in the first place, a totally healthy person can have a stroke, so this could be coincidental timing. So like you said, a really hard murder case. And even harder if they don't have someone to charge with said murder.
 
2021-04-19 8:06:29 PM  

casual disregard: cretinbob: Oh good, more opinions from people who never took a college level anatomy and physiology course.
I can hardly wait.

Ah I took a class on human anatomy. Let me click the article and see what is being claimed.

*click*

Uh......beaten by treasonists, two strokes, and natural causes?

Look man I am not an expert but I think that might be false.


A stroke is natural cause. Until you can tie a specific incident to that stroke, it's not murder. Nobody is lying here, they just have no way at all to prove what caused the strokes. I'm sure with your GED in law, you could successfully prosecute the case, so make sure to let them know that you are available.
 
2021-04-19 8:08:17 PM  

Shaggy_C: Weatherkiss: Shaggy_C: UltimaCS: I've been to a lot of marches and never saw anyone keel over and die. Yet somehow this "protest" of a couple hours had 4 people do just that. It don't make any sense.

These are not smart people. I want to give it to the "don't tread on me" flag waver who got trampled but the guy who died after tasing himself in the dick was the greatest insurrectionist death of all time.

The guy who tased himself in the balls is a fabricated story, but many of us choose to believe that's what happened anyway.

Funny enough, same can be said of the cop being "murdered" despite the evidence of it being natural causes being known for months now. People still go on about the fire extinguisher as if it were fact.


The dark crimson Russian stooge is at it again I see. Keep at it comrade. Expose  the rest of your stooges.
 
2021-04-19 8:08:22 PM  

UltimaCS: Headso: Meh can't read it, Jeff Bezos needs his nickel

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To be fair, my results with using Incognito Mode for the Washington Post have been mixed at best.
 
2021-04-19 8:08:50 PM  

saywhonow: So then that lady that was shot died from natural causes too?


Exsanguination is kind of like natural causes, right?
 
2021-04-19 8:08:56 PM  

UltimaCS: Headso: Meh can't read it, Jeff Bezos needs his nickel

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Cute, but that doesn't work much anymore.

Opening in Chrome or Firefox and using "reader mode" does. Brave on my phone is good. But your dickwad "advice" doesn't really help anyone. I'm sure it made you feel superior though, right?
 
2021-04-19 8:10:37 PM  

Dictatorial_Flair: We're these embolic or hemorrhagic strokes? Because if they were hemorrhagic strokes in a 43 year old, what really happened is much more likely that he bled to death inside his skull because a crowd of domestic terrorists beat the shiat out of him.


Difficulty:  "Diaz also said there was no evidence of internal or external injuries."  If they beat the sh*t out of him, it appears they did so in a way that left no marks.
 
2021-04-19 8:11:34 PM  

King Something: Intent follows the "bullet," even if the weapon used isn't an actual bullet. The insurrectionists brought along a homemade gallows which they intended to use to kill Pence for not being sufficiently loyal to Trump.

It's not just felony murder, but also first degree murder. The fact that Sicknick wasn't hanged from that gallows is irrelevant.


Also, the fact that he was at the insurrection was irrelevant since a stroke can hit you whenever and there's no proof or evidence that anything from Jan 6th affected him.
 
2021-04-19 8:11:41 PM  

UltimaCS: Headso: Meh can't read it, Jeff Bezos needs his nickel

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Yes, we know.  It often doesn't work, wiseass.
 
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